Hillary Clinton's challenges make for good reading

Hillary can't "find her voice" because she doesn't have one of her own. "Her voice" is whatever she thinks will work with her current audience.

"She needs to be authentic"... I agree! But unfortunately that means she has to stop lying about her "35 years of experience" (I count seven years, but I welcome a Hillary supporter to explain where the 35 years comes from, and no, first lady and Gov's wife does not count as leadership experience) and stand up for herself and request a divirce from her cheating and womanizing husband.

Unfortunately for her, after losing Bill and her false claims of experience she is just a smart but inexperienced person who cares for this country (or at least that's what she says through her crocodile tears, but I'll give her the benefit of the doubt on that one), which is exactly what she portrays Obama as. So then the only difference between the two is that one is capable of inspiring the populous and one is capable of division and will only mobilize the right against them.

So she needs to be authentic, but to be authentic she will lose her two biggest chips in the game. Oh well, looks like her campaign is "S'd" unless some backroom deals are made to secure the superdelegates, and if that happens the Democratic party is "S'd" and will never be able to recover.

How can anyone honestly believe she will satisfy the needs of the voters? She wasn't even able to keep her husband satisfied?

Maryland, you had your say. Now the rest of the country will have theirs. See ya.

Hillary is so intelligent! Media and modern people want excitment and 8 second one-liners that sell toothpaste and ED meds on the networks. I want a president that understands policy and is a workhorse like Hillary! Whether she sells toothpaste or not:)

Jim is right - the reason Ms. Clinton's "voice" sounds false is because it is. Ever since she carpet-bagged her NY Senatorial seat, she has been angling for the presidency. Everything she has done since then has been calculated (at those times) to help in in her quest. This led her to choose to do things that went against her true beliefs - voting to authorize the was in Iraq, for example. She is now viewed by Democrats and Independents as a rudderless panderer who will say/do anything in order to get elected.

The voters - tired of having been lied to over the past 7+ years - have had enough. This is why Romney was toast from the get-go. He flip-flopped on so many issues, Republican voters recognized him for being the phony he was.

McCain suffers from this as well. Deep down, he knows that we should not have attacked Iraw. However, he has tied his fortunes to that train (he has no choice, being a Repoublican). However, his decision yesterday to vote against the waterboarding ban - which he did purely to pander to the right wing of his party - after he has spoken out so forcefully against the use of torture in the past, will come back to haunt him. He is starting to fall into the pandering trap . . . .

Hillary is an extroverted insecure control freak who is extremely well versed on details, but random on direction and having no vision.

That's why she stayed with Bill, out of political convenience.

While it's naive to think that Obama is some kind of saint who doesn't play politics or would magically unite a country, simply put there's no doubt that independents and young people will not vote for her.

Thanks, but no thanks

It really is so strange to me how everyone is caught up in Obama fever. Hillary would bring an entirely different way of thinking to the White House. Somehow Obama's speeches are more inspiring, but there's no substance behind them. I do believe that she needs to be more aggressive in attacking him. If she put him on the spot during a debate I think he'd be stuck in a endless loop of ummmm & huh. Hopefully, Monday Hillary will shine again.

HI HILLARY I'M SUPPORTING YOU

"Hillary is so intelligent!"
Everyone agrees with this. It's her judgement that's at question--following Cheney, another intelligent person, on invading Iraq and threatening to invade Iran does not show good judgement.

"Hillary would bring an entirely different way of thinking to the White House. "
Name one thing about her Senate past or the way she's campaigned that would support this. She appears to be stuck in the 90s, endlessly wrestling against the vast right wing conspiracy.

I watched a Headlines and Legends special on Hillary that was ironic in that her past accomplishments and endeavors were characterized repeatedly by terms like "institutional change", "trail blazer" , "agent of change," citing her commencement address at Wellesley, work with children's issues , women's issues, travels abroad as FirstLady making speeches and on and on. And yet it all comes down to whoever grabs the headlines with the right words and wins the media attention. I truly wish Hillary could be appreciated for her foresight and fortitude and especially by young women who are benefitting from actions of women like Hillary. To fight for change in the era that Hillary has lived in has been an uphill battle but she has shown strength, resolve and recilency that hasn't been matched in this campaign.

Hillary can take the heat! She's been slandered and told to stay in her place long enough. The Obama backlash is just about to begin. They were salivating over it on CNN last night... chomping at the bit to get at him the second he might fall into the lead.

Let's see, where will they start? Hundreds of dollars in unpaid parking violations racked up during college and only now paid off (take that handicapped parking!), his own stories about smoking pot and crack, the real estate investment scheme with a corrupt federally indicted Chicago politician, the complete and total lack of experience.... and the fact that he chooses not to vote on things rather than take an opinionated stand. Oh except that he would bomb Pakistan and then there's the fact that his financial advisors are arch conservatives who are for the privatization of social security. Huh?

And he's going to go up against McCain, a 26 year vet of Congress and beloved war hero?

Wah?

Hillary has to be our candidate. She is the only one tough enough to play hardball with the big boys. She has an economic plan, unlike McCain or Obama (who has just tried to plagarize hers).

Let's get serious dems! Let Obama pay his dues first and get some experience, then twenty years from now he can play ball. This ain't no entry level job!

Allow me to summarize. Obama supporters think Hillary is lying, power-hungry, insincere candidate. Hillary supporters think Obama is an inexperienced bunch of fluff. I think you're both right.

VOTE - HILLARY CLINTON
PRESIDENT!!!

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Great opportunity to get popcorn ready for the REZKO case presentation. Maybe, Barack "Hussein" Obama will have to actually talk instead of saying two or three soft feeling words with signs going up-and-down and shouting in the background.
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Jury may see details of Rezko's finances
FEDERAL COURT/Defense trying to block info
--Februqry 13, 2008 by Steve Warmbir, Staffr Report, Chicago Sun-Times,
--THIS ARTICLE IS LOCATED AT:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/790561,CST-NWS-rezko13.article

Following the money in Rezko case
Oh brother! Tale of $400,000 fee shows how he did business
--February 10, 2008, by Mark Brown, Sun-Times Columnist, Chicago Sun-Times
--THIS ARTICLE IS LOCATED AT:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/brown/785959,CST-NWS-brown10.article

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WAKE-UP AMERICA........
WAKE-UP AMERICA........

BARACK "Hussein" OBAMA is a phony.

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VOTE - HILLARY CLINTON -
PRESIDENT!!!

YOU GO GIRL!!!!
YOU GO GIRL!!!!
YOU GO GIRL!!!!

This article is just another invitation from the media for voters to engage in hatred and sexism toward Senator Clinton. It is a one-sided story that fails to look at the stresses and strains that are ongoing in both camps. The truth is that the two candidates are separated by only 1% of the total delegates with numerous states yet to weight in. Obama and the media that supports him still have plenty to worry about.

Of course, Barack didn't know about any of the Rezko dealings. Barack has only known him for 20 years!

On another note, there is so much venom spewed at HRC, I sincerely hope those spewing venom is squeaky clean. Think not!

Obama is full of it. Enough rhetoric please. Enough claiming that he was against the war without admitting to not being in the position to vote "nay" or "yea" because of not being in the senate then. After becoming a senator, he then clearly shows his disagreement with the war by voting for every military policy since. Where is his so-called opposition to the war other then what he has been saying since his presidential bid. Lies, lies and more lies. Obama can take his dog and pony show somewhere else because America does not need optimisism, it needs solutions. If Obama doesn't get to become president then he can always have job as tv avangelist. He has the skills and plenty of opportunity for it out there. Obama says: "hope is on its way." Wow, where do I get some of that hope he is talking about, maybe it can get me a degree or a job. Maybe it can get the debt collector of my back or maybe I can continue to struggle on as Obama guides through life with his pep talks. I am, by the way, a student and I pride myself of not being a follower of the bandwagon/cheerleading of Obama's. I like to think for myself and I prefer honesty and straight talk from my leaders. Obama leaves me confused. When is help gonna be on its way? America has really been losing it as of late with the new style of media and new style of politics. What ever happened to the good old fashion leadership I read about in my history books?

Hillary for Prez.

"I like to think for myself and I prefer honesty and straight talk from my leaders. Obama leaves me confused. When is help gonna be on its way? America has really been losing it as of late with the new style of media and new style of politics. What ever happened to the good old fashion leadership I read about in my history books?"

When has Obama said that help is on the way? I'm pretty sure that was a slogan for Kerry, or perhaps Mr. Clinton. Obama talks more about becoming the help we are waiting for. It's something I like about him--not "vote for me, then your part's done--sit back while I send you help." But "Solving our problems will require sacrifice."

I think you are not alone in your frustration with media and politics, compared to the leadership in your history books*, but that is part of Obama's stated reason for running--seeing that people are tired of the partisan bickering and litmus test. I think this switch happened sometime leading up to the 2006 elections, but a means of carrying it further than switching Congress hasn't been found yet. I hope Obama can be that--not a perfect saviour, but a leader sufficiently skilled with words to create some of that change.

We're in a blog after all. We must think words matter.

*The history books often paper over all the blood and guts election battles, though--how exciting can a scandal named for a Teapot be? I highly recommend Sarah Vowell's Assassination Vacation for an entertaining look through history one probably slept through the first time.

I'm a true blue Democrat, but I make this promise: If Florida and Michigan delegates are seated in Denver in order to make Hillary Clinton the nominee, I will actively support John McCain's campaign.

You can't change the rules in the middle of the game. Period. If Democrats are stupid enough to let that happen, the Party deserves to lose.

This has got to be the nastiest election in years. Paid bashers are being used on Internet sites just like this. Stop bashing Hillary. We like her!

If the Democrats are foolish enough to nominate Hillary Clinton, they will be nominating the one Democrat who can lose to the GOP this year.

As a disgruntled Republican, the ONE thing that will make me (and many other Republicans) hold our noses and vote for McCain this year is Hillary Clinton! Please lets just let Obama win and end the war...

Hillary's cabinet will be completely nepotistic.

Solis-Doyle, Maggie Williams, loyalty over competence.

"Heck of a job, Brownie!"

Seriously? That's who you want to run our country?

I've got nothing against Hillary, but the way she's run her campaign proves she's simply not ready to be president. Give her another eight years and she may match Obama in terms of judgment, charisma and sheer organizational ability. Maybe.

We have all been profoundly and adversely affected by the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan, carrying the burden of death and destruction, torture and illegal detentions that have turned the world against us. Profoundly and adversely affected by the levees breaking in Louisiana and the residents of that great state hung out to dry and left for dead. All across the country foreclosures loom large and we see our families, friends and neighbors loose what they’ve worked so hard to attain. Now we find ourselves standing on the precipice of promise. With the election year of 2008, we Americans can begin to shake off our collective disillusionment, and rather than hang our heads in shame be excited about our future. Unfortunately my excitement is tempered with the possibility of losing this moment. With the possibility of being in Iraq for another 100 years as suggested by John McCain or being told by Senator Clinton that only the big states matter. That caucuses don’t count. That we the people living in small towns all across America working multiple jobs, losing our homes, losing our farms and now losing our voices in the face of super delegates is unacceptable.
To force Americans to line the pockets of health insurance companies is bad, undemocratic policy. Much like the Bush administration has held Americans hostage, forcing us through high oil/propane prices to line the pockets of Exxon, Chevron and Halliburton etc. it's wrong! Demanding disclosure and accountability, while deflecting responsibility for this horrible and unforgivable war is wrong! The refusal to disclose tax return information while running for President of the United States is unacceptable and wrong! I do not believe that day one begins in the White House. I, as a concerned citizen believe it begins now, today, before becoming the President of the United States of America. While Senator Clinton bypasses the country making a beeline for Texas, hoping to secure the Latino, Hispanic, Mexican, Mexican-American vote, she dismisses her campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle. It speaks to the lack of loyalty pervasive in Washington and I believe we deserve better.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/12/latino-lawmakers-upset-over-clinton-camp-shake-up/

I believe we deserve better than Senator Clinton's unreserved acceptance of Ann Coulter's endorsement. Ann Coulter, who derisively called John Edwards a "faggot", Christians "perfected Jews" and the widows of the 911 victims "harpies".

It should also be mentioned that the insurance company responsible for halting the 1993 healthcare reform plan of the Clinton Administration -- Health Insurance Association of America (HIAA), now America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) -- paid President Clinton $150,000.00 dollars in June of 2005, to deliver a speech to their board. I believe it should raise a red flag to those supporting/endorsing Senator Clinton to recognize the problematic relationship created by this. The language that now crafts Senator Clinton’s healthcare plan, which is not particularly dissimilar to that of the Clinton administrations plan in 1993, mirrors AHIP’s proposal in remarkably unsettling ways that warrant examination.

http://www.ahip.org/content/default.aspx...

Below is the link regarding the aforementioned information confirming the $150,000.00 dollar payment made to President Clinton for his speaking engagement.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/CIDsummary.as...

Let’s not lose this moment. Support Barack Obama.
http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

Don't let Hillary Clinton's croc tears fool you. One of her top advisers is Mark Penn. A heavy hitting uscrupulous PR person, giving advice to clients such as the tobacco industry, instructing them on how to target inner city minorities via smokers rights groups, blackwater on how to effectively respond and dodge questions from the 911 commission, and advising subprime lending groups on how to move forward with their agendas and deflect fallout
http://www.prwatch.org/node/6213
Go Senator Clinton.

Okay, look, y'all.

Sometimes we need a *leader*. What is a leader? Someone who can inspire everyone else to act.

Does Hillary have that quality? No. She was a president's wife, intelligent as she may be. She learned politics in the trenches, down and dirty, her and Bill together. All her life.

Can't we just say, "enough"?

It's no slur against Hillary. She's fought a long and hard fight, but mostly for herself (and Bill).

Can't we just move on? Can't we breathe some new air into this nation?

Can we give young people a voice for a change? Remember how important that was when Bill Clinton was elected the first time around?

I think the boomers have controlled this country for long enough. Let's make room for the future.

many people are confused and keep hearing about experience, etc. . .let's post some facts and being educated people, let the facts speak for thmeselves. It started with "35 yrs of experience".....
Now its all about "Solutions not Questions"

There are many things that Senator Obama and Senator Clinton have in common, and a few where they differ (in my opinion, mostly in the categories of diplomacy, rhetorical skill, and personal appeal). However, if we must stretch so far for differences,let's just have a look at her voting record and look at Senator Obama's as well:

"Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.

These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you.

1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Hon
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
Only five of Clinton's bills are more substantive:

16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

There you have it-the facts straight from the Senate Record.

Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize.

During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced:

233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.

His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded:

**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more."

If this is a product of "35 years of experience" or its the "Solutions not Questions" Senator Clinton is talking about, I would rather pick Senator Obama's "Results" Over 100 years of experience

Enough rhetoric, The Voters Deserve the Facts

Thank You Avavir33 for giving me facts to work with, its a break From all the emotion's taking hold in this process.

Happy Voting

Chancy, your little vote tally from Obama's web site has already been debunked ... and even by the people on his web site. Get your facts straight.

Very informative, Chancey. I checked the Library of Congress's website. Obama authored 113 bills, and Hillary authored 150. That's an average of 25 per year for Hillary and 28.5 for Obama. Her claim that she's the worker and he's only a speech maker really lacks credibility in light of this.

My condolences.

Barack Obama for President of the UNITED States of America.