McCain denial was believable, says focus group: The Swamp
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Posted February 21, 2008 10:18 PM
The Swamp

by Frank James

Sen. John McCain's press conference performance today in response to the New York Times story on his ties to a telecommunications lobbyist was apparently good enough to win over some of those who watched it.

HCD Research conducted a focus group over the Internet involving 901 respondents which showed as much.

When asked if they believed McCain, the presumptive presidential nominee, had a relationship with a lobbyist that affected his how he performed his Senate job, more people said "no" after viewing the press conference than they did beforehand.

For instance, before viewing the tape 36 percent of the 901 surveyed answered no to that question. Afterwards, that number rose to 50 percent.

Among Republicans, those answering "no" went from 52 percent to 66 percent. Among Democrats, it went from 28 percent to 38 percent. And among independents, the percentage answering "no" before and after watching the press conference climbed from 28 percent to 47 percent.

HCD's MediaCurves technology showed how the 901 respondents reacted to excerpts of McCain's remarks, graphing the averages of their responses to whether McCain was believable or not.

Not surprisingly, Republicans generally found McCain more believable than independents with Democrats finding him the least believable.

But even among Democrats, his numbers never slipped into the dangerous disbelief zone though they did dip significantly among Democrats when he said the story wasn't true and later when he said he had never done anything in Washington to betray the public trust.

Worth noting is that there was a perceptible though much slighter dip among Republicans and independents at those points also.

In sum, judging from the reaction of those who participated in today's MediaCurves survey, McCain definitely benefited from how and what he responded today to the Times story.

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Comments

Once a cheater always a cheater.


The NYT never said McCain had an affair. The Times said McCain's staffers were concerned that he was having an affair and they intervened to push her away.

McCain never denied that. He only said he was unaware that they had done that, although that doesn't sound plausible.

After all, a lobbyist suddenly doesn't come around any more and McCain doesn't wonder why not?

Surely he knew what his staffers had done and if he thought they were out of line he surely would have told them. If he didn't think they were out of line, then he was aware that his relationship with the lobbyist might appear "inappropriate."

None of that makes McCain look smart, especially post-Clinton affair.


John McCain just got Swith Boated!

Holy cow! This is huge! Huckabee was hoping for a miracle. I think he got it.


a focus group? A focus group? Look at his votes on tcom stuff. That's what counts. Why waste our time?


Here’s something Barack can use against Clinton in the debates. It’s on at the beginning of the Obama For President website of the Evolutionary Party.


…We endorse Barack Obama as the next president of the United States. This is the most important election America will ever have, possibly the last if Barack Obama is not elected.

The Evolutionary Party derives its politics from the equation for evolution shown on the flag that has been in the textbooks for the last eighty years. A mathematical elaboration of it supported by data ranging from chemical kinetics to the evening news indicates that our “war on terror” is slowly but surely escalating to World War III, a truly terrifying thought. For that reason we support Barack Obama, for he is the only real anti-war candidate.

Hillary? Before Hillary came Bill. Let us recall Bill Clinton and his lovely first lady with a clear eye. This all smiling couple sang their song of health care so sweetly to the public but delivered, not on an increase in medical protection, but an increase in prison building and in the number of police roaming the streets, federally paid, looking for a reason to hassle the public and put those who get annoyed rather than cowed into one of those new Clinton prisons. And we accepted it all because it came from such a nice American couple with such nice smiles. Hillary, show us that your showboat is something other than a total fake.

What the Clintons did very much pleased the conservatives, who believe in lock ‘em up law and order because our laws are made by and for the eternal betterment of the moneyed class in America. What the Clintons did took America to the highest per-capita prison population in the world, a statistic historically associated with police states like Stalinist Russia and apartheid South Africa. No, the Evolutionary Party is not saying that America is a police state, if it were, you’d have heard about it on the evening news.

The Clinton presidency also ended social protection for out of work people, again quite pleasing the conservatives. The Clintons ended Lyndon Baines Johnson’s war on poverty and put all the homeless people you don’t see on TV onto the streets of Las Vegas and Sacramento where they are as thick as flies and can’t be missed unless you are blind. As some in the media actually are. Have you ever noticed Carol Costello’s eyes? Right out of the Stepford Wives. She is blind. You are sure of that by what she and the rest of the show your tits newscasters don’t say. Nothing that you actually see on the streets of America and on its busses and in its workplaces is ever talked about on TV.

And you have to wonder who Carole is banging for in the front office. We are not picking on her for that reason, though. Working women all across America have to fuck for their bosses, one way or another, to get ahead in life. So it is very unlikely that Carole is alone as a CNN down on her knees newscastrix. No, we are picking on Carole and on Anderson and on the rest of the well paid greasy mouths on TV for not seeing the more stark realities we lesser people have to live with.

And to all you middle class who don’t care if the Clintons brought us the hoards of homeless beggars that don’t exist in your life, don’t turn your head so soon. It could be you and your family next. Either as one of the homeless, when the economic realities of our trillion dollar war rob you of your job and retirement savings when the market crashes. Or as a victim of the homeless when their rage at being kicked by the police on top of being starved reaches the mass murder point. As it has in a number of other sectors in America where control is abusive, as at work and in our well policed schools.

On a lighter note, Hillary does have a few things she can be proud of. She is a most talented actress and a profoundly adept social climber, our American Evita. But whatever Hillary’s personal accomplishments, she is never going to go against the wishes of the money class that created her and Bill and supported them as their adorable political puppets. Hillary would not show her tax returns, as Obama asked, because they would show the largess showered on the Clintons by the moneyed class. No, Hillary is not going to stop this war, whatever she may say to get elected and star her next movie: Figurehead President II.

Of course, there are those of you that think that Hillary would never lie to us. Bill said he would never lie to us. And he said it so well that I yet don’t believe he lied to us about Monica. Monica who? That is how good an actor Bill is. He’s even a better actor than Brad Pitt. One night Bill crawled into Angelina’s bedroom in Beverly Hills with a cigar in his mouth. Hey, Angelina, he said, my wife’s going to run for president this year. Open your legs and give us your vote. Pass the popcorn, please. It’ll be another four years of that movie, but with Hillary smoking the cigar.

Of course, transgressions are relative. Who is not totally revulsed by the smell of a public rest room fused to the Bible squeezing, boy hustling conservative senator from Idaho? Nobody has caught Bill at that yet. Still, what character is there in a first family when the head of the most powerful nation on earth sticks a penile object, not even his own, up some college kid’s vagina? If this were a movie, would they play the Star Spangled Banner during this scene?

And doesn’t it make you wonder about the guy’s wife? Does any sane female over the age of 22 really think Hillary felt bad about Bill and Monica? Behind all the media hype that protects those who help control the little people, you have to wonder:

A.) Is Hillary is lesbian, a married one, not that unusual in modern America. If Hillary was mad about anything with Monica, it was that she didn’t get a shot at her too. Watch one of Hillary’s lovers surface soon to clarify her tastes as to penile object.

B.) The smiling Clintons are so phony and so slimy underneath that one would not be surprised to find that the inarguably unconfident and possibly mildly retarded Chelsea Clinton was the product of her pervert parents abusing her when she was four years old, the age she seems to be stuck in. Certainly there is as much truth in this outrageous conjecture as the Clintons being good people because they go to church on Sunday. No, what the Clintons are is not good, but likable. Likable is a banana split. You just like how it tastes. You don’t need a reason. The Clintons are an imitation banana split, very likeable, like artificial sweetener that causes cancer eight years down the line.

You can trust what a Clinton says like you can trust what a Bush says. That whole family, George I, George II, Lady Barbara and Lady Laura, are all great actors too. And isn’t it interesting that the Bush daughters, Jenna and what’s her name, are as unconfident and inept as Chelsea. Makes you wonder if Bush uses a cigar too. But on Lady Laura, the Virgin Mary of conservatives?

True, this skit by the one writer’s guild writer who didn’t get rehired is a bit insane. But there are a lot of people around today that are actually insane, not the least of whom are the conservatives, all of which are unbalanced emotionally because of their castration in childhood from the pains of physical punishment and strict obedience. They are inherently defective however much their endless charades from Senate podiums and on Fox News try to hide it. And dangerous when they have weapons in their grasp.

If you want the war and the police state to end, vote for Barack Obama. Not for Hillary, who is so self-serving and devious that you wouldn’t be surprised if she teamed up with Huckabee as VP on a national reconciliation ticket. Or some such curve ball the moneyed class would use to block Obama from getting in and ending our descent into irreversible totalitarianism and worldwide war. Hopefully Obama will not be removed by assassination.

Who are we to say such dark things? To find out, log onto www.matrix-evolutions.com.

Yours in the struggle,
Dr. and Mrs. Peter V. Calabria


What's next, are the Republic Party goon squad memebers going to hire a body language expert to try and prove that Senator "Straight-talker" isn't lying?

John McCain/Bush has been given a free pass from the media for to long because of his Vet status, if you really look at his record you'll find that he's been a life-long corrupt slimeball, who has ethics problems and a hair trigger temper.

It never says that there was an affair. Right up front, it says that both of them deny it.

But the point of the article is that McCain has a history of getting too close to corporate lobbyists and it rehashes his ties to Keating.

In this case, he got so close to this lobbyist that his own damn staff was afraid that it would look like they were having an affair. It was the appearance of impropriety that the staff was afraid of.

I emphasize that it came from his own damn staff.


Actually, I believe that the supporters of Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee should be ticked at John McCain, if the Times had done this story right after Iowa as they were planing to do until McCain got them to hold off on it, one of those two guys would be the GOP nominee right now, NOT McCain.

I've always thought McCain was a liar, we need to bring back Romney, he's a much better candidate than McCain anyway and at least he knows how to deal with the economy, something McCain doesn't have a clue about.


Come on, people. HE'S A POLITICIAN for crying out loud. And he's also been through this before, so he's well rehearsed. I think the majority of men are born with this ability to deceive.

Does this lobbyist have any blue dresses?


You would think that McCain would have learned his lesson after he cheated on his first wife.
He's not very bright.

http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc283/charliedecker84/?action=view¤t=mccainenzyte.jpg


It's not hard to be when the "article" in question is a thinly veiled hatchet job that's told anonymously except for one disgruntled former staffer and features information we've know since 1999.

Rush Limbaugh is breathlessly defending McCain now. A shared hatred of the New York Times could be the beginning of a new conservative awakening. Be very afraid democrats, the Reagan coalition is united.

You have awakened a sleeping giant.


This whole story will be about McCain doing favors for lobbyists, not some damn affair that can't be confirmed...yet.

McCain calls himself a "reformer", a "straight-talker" and yet he's still doing "favors" for lobbyists like he did back in the Keating days.


By Michael D. Shear and Jeffrey H. Birnbaum
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, February 22, 2008; A01

"For years, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has railed against lobbyists and the influence of "special interests" in Washington, touting on his campaign Web site his fight against "the 'revolving door' by which lawmakers and other influential officials leave their posts and become lobbyists for the special interests they have aided."

"But when McCain huddled with his closest advisers at his rustic Arizona cabin last weekend to map out his presidential campaign, virtually every one was part of the Washington lobbying culture he has long decried. His campaign manager, Rick Davis, co-founded a lobbying firm whose clients have included Verizon and SBC Telecommunications. His chief political adviser, Charles R. Black Jr., is chairman of one of Washington's lobbying powerhouses, BKSH and Associates, which has represented AT&T, Alcoa, JPMorgan and U.S. Airways".

full WaPo story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/21/AR2008022101131_pf.html


Can we have another focus group to determine whether or not "that" focus group was believable?


Focus group?

Good Lord, American elections truly are reduced to corporate marketing exercises.

While the New York Times has done some shameful things, anyone who actually reads the article
will be convinced of its accuracy.

The sources are in McCain's own camp, and they tried desperately for a time to save him from himself.

Instead, he once again just did what he wanted.

And if he convinced a focus group of his telling the truth, it only proves what an effective liar he is.

That doesn't surprise me at all. Imagine the practice he's had over the years?

He's going to be the candidate, and he's going to lose badly, having hurt many of his own party.


Rush Limbaugh is breathlessly defending McCain now. A shared hatred of the New York Times could be the beginning of a new conservative awakening. Be very afraid democrats, the Reagan coalition is united.

You have awakened a sleeping giant.

Posted by: Jeff | February 22, 2008 3:02 AM


This is pretty funny. The repugs have an old, lying fraud being defended by a fat, pill popping blowhard.

Jeff's coalition is named after another geezer who presided over his own huge scandals, ignored the constitution and ran up record deficits.

Afraid indeed.


Jeff/Bill,
Why did McCain say his relationship with the younger lobbyist was "inappropriate"? What was not "inapropriate"?


Bill, google "Walter Mondale" and "election results" for an accurate representation of what most Americans, unlike the reactionary left, think of Ronald Reagan. There was also a good swamp post a few days ago about how both parties want candidates more like Reagan and JFK. I won't be attacking JFK here because I'm a member of a different party. It's called class, look into it.


"PAID PROGRAMMING IN AMERICA SPEAKS"

DON'T YOU LOVE US. DON'T YOU LOVE WHAT JOHN MCCAIN AND PAXSON COMMUNICATIONS BRINGS TO YOU EVERY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY. DON'T YOU MISS US ON THE WEEKENDS. WE TEACH YOU HOW TO DAY TRADE ON SUNDAY, AND LOSE IT ALL ON MONDAY.

DON'T YOU LOVE NOT WATCHING THE NEWS, OR LOCAL NEWS. DON'T YOU MISS YOUR LOCAL CHANNEL THAT OFFERED YOU SOMETHING MORE THAN "PAID PROGRAMMING"

DON'T YOU GET TIRED OF WATCHING PEOPLE WORKOUT ON EVERY INFOTAINMENT WORKOUT MACHINE AVAILABLE IN YOUR LOCAL GYM, ALL DAY, ALL NIGHT.

DON'T YOU MISS "GIRLS GONE WILD" OOPS, I'M SORRY THAT IS ON "PAID PROGRAMMING" NOT INCLUDED IN YOUR LOCAL "PAID PROGRAMMING" NETWORKS.

THANK YOU JOHN JOHN WE ALWAYS KNEW IT CAME FROM YOU!


It's called class, look into it.

Posted by: Jeff | February 22, 2008 11:35 AM

This coming from a parasite who goes out of his way to comment in a patronizing and mocking tone any time the author of a Swamp piece is a woman. Yeah you are the pinnacle of class.


"You have awakened a sleeping giant."

More like a slumbering poodle.


mccain on the viagra campaign trail. honestly does anyone want to be left with the thought of mccain having an affair with anyone? "my eyes! they burn"
a bit'o humor :)


That story is ridiculous. I expected that kind of story from the National Enquirer, not the New York Times.

P.S. : Ruth Calabria - What do Obama and Hillary have to do with the New York Times and McCain?


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