McCain the volcano fails to erupt over NYT story

Don't get me wrong, I think the Republican Party as a whole is an "agent of intolerance" and do not want another one in the White House in my lifetime, but this story is really about the cat that didn't get caught up the tree, something journalists never write.

This is how America would look if concealed weapons were unrestricted:

The violence began around noon when a 37-year-old man police described as a bystander was shot more than a dozen times by suspected gang members as he held the hand of a 2-year-old girl. He later died. The toddler, apparently picked up by a passerby and carried to safety, was not wounded. As the gunmen drove off, witnesses told police, several pedestrians who apparently knew the victim opened fire on the car.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-me-barricade22feb22,0,7060922.story

Even if McCain is not guilty of this, didn't he cheat on his first wife with his the woman that would become his second wife? How can she stand there and "trust" him without reservation when she knows that she's been "the other woman?"

Yeah, McCain's damage control spin is to smear the newspaper for merely reporting. So much for Mr. 'Straight Talk'.

The man is a serial liar.

If there's a tangible risk that a guy's going to blow his top over a newspaper story, perhaps he's not really presidential timbre. I'm pretty sure the job might entail the ability to handle adversity with a level head.

This is how America would look if concealed weapons were unrestricted:

The violence began around noon when a 37-year-old man police described as a bystander was shot more than a dozen times by suspected gang members as he held the hand of a 2-year-old girl. He later died. The toddler, apparently picked up by a passerby and carried to safety, was not wounded. As the gunmen drove off, witnesses told police, several pedestrians who apparently knew the victim opened fire on the car.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-me-barricade22feb22,0,7060922.story

Posted by: john | February 22, 2008 10:32 AM

john: it's a gang infested area, and has been for years. So what would be surprising about that ?

It has already been proven that the NYT (more like NY Slime) misquoted (as if we didn't know they do this all the time) one of the main sources. Not only is this bad journalism but unethical.

I think we need to know what meds McCain is on to control that famous temper. He is far too calm.

Your Tribune editorial today got it right about the New York Times publishing an article without attribution and without merit. It was a political smear by a newspaper that has lost whatever flimsly reputation it ever had. I suggest you read your own editorial.

If you want to "get the old Navy man's goat", please show him the quote in 2003 of him saying the Iraq War would be easy, then show him the quote of him in 2006 saying some people tried to misleasd you that the Iraq War would be easy. Ask him to please explain.

The reactionary libs like Mr. Weinerdog (let's use NY Times style for this piece!) are hilarious.

McCain doesn't need to "smear" the Times. It's done a good enough job of that itself with its shoddy reporting.

The Seattle P-I cites "seriouse flaws in its reporting" for the reason it didn't run the piece and the Columbia Journalism Review has five questions it says Bill Keller needs to answer.

Journalists wary of losing more public confidence are rising up as a community against this hit piece. McCain doesn't need to do a thing.

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/132415.asp?source=mypi

http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/questions_for_bill_keller.php

The man puts me to sleep!!!

The NYT article was about McCain having bad judgment! Whether it is true on not that he was acting on behalf of lobbyists, it doesnt matter. The lobbyists were flying him around the country to raise money for his campaigns and he developed a friendship with them but he is also in charge on regulating the industry they lobby for ? To me this is bad judgment. How can you be unbiased about something when you are only exposed to one point of view. This is the exact reason the government does and has not address/ed the needs of the people.

How did McCain's people know about this story since November, and what to the Times so long to publish it? Something going on here?

Wow. Looks like the Trib is joining the NY Times-led effort to ignore journalistic ethics and savage Senator McCain. Really, look at the words you choose to use in your headline: "McCain the volcano fails to erupt over NYT story", like you're disappointed that he responded in a mature and statesmanlike manner. That tells me that you're more interesting in baiting him than anything---that you're more interested in entertainment than enlightenment. Would you treat Senator Obama in a similar manner? I think we all know the answer to that.

Michael Costello, if you judge leaders by their level of fidelity to their first wives, then I trust you have had similar criticisms of President Clinton, President Reagan, MLK, JFK, Ike, FDR, and Thomas Jefferson for that matter. Let's stick to the actual issues, shall we?

So the NYT was "merely reporting"? By your standards then, the Weekly World News is "merely reporting", as long as they have at least one witness to say that he actually saw Angelina Jolie give birth to a half gorilla, half alien monster.

As a conservative and longtime supporter of Senator McCain, I want to thank David in Evanston for such a classy and bipartisan observation. Really, there is so much at stake in November, and the choices between the two nominees will be so clear and significant, that none of us should be sidetracked by red-herring stories relating to the candidates' personal lives. Frankly, I don't care what Senator Obama, Senator Clinton and Senator McCain do in their private lives. I basically want to know two things only---do they have the ability to be an effective leader (I think the answer for all three is clearly "yes"), and in what ideological direction will they steer the ship of state.

Tim, BS is an important issue this election year for Michael Costello.

Bill Keller just can't imagine why his readers would be upset and react negatively to the politically motivated hit job he ran.

"Personally, I was surprised by the volume of the reaction," writes Bill Keller on the Times website. "I was surprised by how lopsided the opinion was against our decision, with readers who described themselves as independents and Democrats joining Republicans in defending Mr. McCain from what they saw as a cheap shot. We knew some readers would disagree with our decision to publish this information. After all, we wrestled with our own doubts on that score."

Posted by: Tim1979 | February 22, 2008 11:45 AM

Tim, McCain has a well known history of blowing his lid, Obama does not. It's a pretty important character aspect to put in the spotlight when considering someone for a job that includes sitting next to the big red button.

Tim 1979, the Chicago Joke-une has no ethical standards. All the newspaper's reporters are bought-and-paid-for operatives of Media Matters, Moveon.org and the DNC. In fact, the Joke-une is no longer a newspaper, but a propaganda hit piece.

"QWEST COMMUNICATIONS SPEAK"

"BREATHTAKING ABUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION" "I DON'T RECALL" "I DON'T RECALL"

JOHN MCCAIN TO RICK RENZI, NO I DON'T RECALL, NO I DON'T RECALL, NO IT'S MY TURN. NO IT'S MY TURN, I DON'T RECALL. LET'S ASK THE BOEHNER OR THE BLUNT WHO GETS TO USE THE "BREATHTAKING ABUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION" I DON'T RECALL.

QWEST I NEED SOMEBODY, QWEST I GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY, QWE.....ST!

NO JOHN WE NEEDED YOU IN 1999/2000 BUT YOU WANTED NOTHING BUT TO "FORCE DATAMINE" "SECRETS" THAT PROTECT COMPANIES IN AMERICA AND THEIR PATENTS, CUSTOMERS, AND CUSTOMER PRIVATE INFORMATION.

"I DON'T RECALL" I'M 72 YEARS OLD AND I DON'T RECALL. SO WHAT IF I WROTE LETTERS, SO WHAT IF IT LOOKS LIKE I WAS IN BED WITH A LOBBYIST, I DIDN'T SLEEP WITH HER, I JUST ROLLED OVER AND GAVE IT ALL UP IN THE NAME OF THE "CONSTITUTION"

IT'S MINE, NO IT'S MINE JOHN, NO RICK IT'S MINE!

In fact, the Joke-une is no longer a newspaper, but a propaganda hit piece.

Posted by: John D | February 22, 2008 12:38 PM

Wow that's a heavy charge and coming from you no doubt false. Your ilk claims illegal activities between Rezko and Obama took place but the Repbublican Dept of Justice has failed to bring charges, yet an AZ REPUBLICAN was just indicted today by the Republican DOJ for illegal land deals, bribes, etc. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

"Yesterday the New York Times ran its hit job on John McCain.

The story was on page A1, the front page.

Today, they run the McCain denial against the Times story.

It appears on A20, the second to last page." (from redstate.com)

Is anyone surprised anymore by the drive-by media's liberal bias?

The John McCain/Bush people have got to have him on anti-depressents or something.

I can't wait for the debates, that's when Senator Straight-talking Hot-head will lose it.

You really want this crazy old man with his finger on the button?

"F--- you," he shouted at Texas Sen. John Cornyn last year.

"Only an a------ would put together a budget like this," he told the former Budget Committee chairman, Sen. Pete Domenici, in 1999.

"I'm calling you a f------ jerk!"

"F--- you. I know more about this than anyone else in the room," McCain reportedly shouted.

"I decided I didn't want this guy anywhere near a trigger," Domenici told Newsweek in 2000.
full story:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23201300/

"Do I insult anybody or fly off the handle or anything like that? No, I don't," insisted McCain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCAqm286eAM&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/16/23473/5584

Tim 1979, the Chicago Joke-une has no ethical standards. All the newspaper's reporters are bought-and-paid-for operatives of Media Matters, Moveon.org and the DNC. In fact, the Joke-une is no longer a newspaper, but a propaganda hit piece.

Posted by: John D | February 22, 2008 12:38 PM

Reasonable minds might question why you are so devoted to reading a publication with such infirmities. Did your subscription to Pravda run out?

Poor little Jeffy, the mean old NY Times wrote a true story about Grampa McCain and your little wingnut feathers got all fluffed up.

Truth is an absolute defense. McCain is a serial liar. We'll see in the end whether Grampa had relations with just this lobbyist or a whole bunch more.

Pass the popcorn.

This whole story will be about McCain doing favors for lobbyists, not some damn affair that can't be confirmed...yet.

McCain calls himself a "reformer", a "straight-talker" and yet he's still doing "favors" for lobbyists like he did back in the Keating days.

By Michael D. Shear and Jeffrey H. Birnbaum
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, February 22, 2008; A01

"For years, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has railed against lobbyists and the influence of "special interests" in Washington, touting on his campaign Web site his fight against "the 'revolving door' by which lawmakers and other influential officials leave their posts and become lobbyists for the special interests they have aided."

"But when McCain huddled with his closest advisers at his rustic Arizona cabin last weekend to map out his presidential campaign, virtually every one was part of the Washington lobbying culture he has long decried. His campaign manager, Rick Davis, co-founded a lobbying firm whose clients have included Verizon and SBC Telecommunications. His chief political adviser, Charles R. Black Jr., is chairman of one of Washington's lobbying powerhouses, BKSH and Associates, which has represented AT&T, Alcoa, JPMorgan and U.S. Airways".

full WaPo story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/21/AR2008022101131_pf.html

Is anyone surprised anymore by the drive-by media's liberal bias?

Posted by: Bruce | February 22, 2008 1:33 PM

You mean the media that ran Howar Dean's "Scream" in continuous loops for days. Funny for as long as I've been watching TV I've never seen a show called Worker's Weekly, The Worker's Report,etc. Yet their is a constant stream of Business Week, Market Watch, This week in Business, This Week on Wall Street, etc. A truly liberal media would not be promoting a corporate agenda.

I don't believe John McCain/Bush, he already has a history of cheating on his wife, that's how he got wife #2...the rich one he has now.

Bruce: They ran McCain's denial in the original story.

It appears on A20, the second to last page." (from redstate.com)

Is anyone surprised anymore by the drive-by media's liberal bias?

Posted by: Bruce | February 22, 2008 1:33 PM

RNC Brucie,

So why don't you go back on redstate.com and FreeperRepublic and cry with all the other crybaby Republics, Bill/Jeff will be there waiting to greet you :(

"BRUCE SPEAKS"

DON'T MESS WITH MY "PAID PROGRAMMING" DON'T MESS WITH MY NO NEWS, IS GOOD NEWS IN AMERICA.

THIS IS LIBERAL BIAS AT BEST. THE LIBERALS DID IT, THE LIBERALS ROLLED OVER AND GAVE IT UP TO PAXSON COMMUNICATIONS.

THE LIBERALS MADE ME DO IT. PBS MADE ME DO IT. THE LIBERALS MADE ME "NOT RECALL"

"SO HERE COMES THE JUDGE"
HERE COMES THE JUDGE"

NO IT'S HERE COMES "I DON'T RECALL" I DON'T RECALL ROLLING OVER, MOANING AND GROANING ABOUT ALL THAT "FREE TELEVISION" ALL THAT "ELECTION NEWS"

NO IT'S SHOCK AN AWE AND THE LIBERALS DID IT. YES BRUCE, JOHN D, IT'S "SCOOTER LIBBY AND JUDITH MILLER" PART TWO.

NO IT'S I DON'T RECALL WEEK IN THE HALLWAYS OF THE GOP.

CONDI
RICK
KARL
HARRIET
AND NOW JOHN JOHN "SHOOT STRAIGHT" MCCAIN.

I MUST SHOOT STRAIGHT AMERICA, I JUST DON'T RECALL.

BUT I WANT TO BE YOUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

I WON'T LOSE EMAILS, OR ERASE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS FOR OVER 547 DAYS.

I JUST WON'T RECALL! BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION

This is how America would look if concealed weapons were unrestricted:

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Posted by: john | February 22, 2008 10:32 AM

So, you're telling us that law-abiding citizens with CCW permits would be overcome with the powerful urge to arbitrarily draw their weapons and kill innocent bystanders? Why would that happen?

Are you a nut-job or a criminal, john? Would you go out and commit murder or robbery if I put a pistol in your hand?

No, I didn't think so. So, why do you think that the rest of the law abiding citizens in this country are any different?

Criminals already carry around guns and have shootouts - including shootouts with the police. They get away with it because nobody except the police bother to shoot back.

There would be a lot less crime if criminals were more afraid to operate in the open. Just ask deer hunters how fun hunting would be if the deer returned fire.

McCain's defense is already starting to fall apart. Newsweek has a story up, A Hole in McCain's Defense, and it reports that McCain's testimony in a previous matter contradicts part of his story told yesterday.

A sworn deposition that Sen. John McCain gave in a lawsuit more than five years ago appears to contradict one part of a sweeping denial that his campaign issued this week to rebut a New York Times story about his ties to a Washington lobbyist.

Further, this morning I heard news report reminding listeners that McCain has a lobbyist running his campaign, a lobbyist as political director.
The NYT and WaPo stories are just a starter pistol--for uncovering all the slime in McCain's past.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/114505

No John W.,
I was trying to highlight the witnesses who pulled out their guns in defense of the man shot and the ensuing 6 hour lockdown of a neighborhood that brought fear and confusion as to who was defending their life and who was taking life.

I'm pretty sure the job might entail the ability to handle adversity with a level head.

Posted by: a blinkin | February 22, 2008 10:59 AM

One can only hope Barack Hussein Obama posseses those qualities, because that gay sex and drug beef is close at hand.

I don't believe John McCain/Bush, he already has a history of cheating on his wife, that's how he got wife #2...the rich one he has now.

Posted by: John E | February 22, 2008 1:51 PM

Johnny Everdumb...maybe he just wanted emulate his war buddy "HERO" John {i was in Cambodia } Kerry, his second one was the rich one too. Whatever the DNC pays you, they sure don't get their moneys worth. You need
some "singing lessons".

Mr. McCain set a single day record in fundraising today...thank you nyt. The Times does more than anything or anybody to put Republicans over the top, in every general election. Memogate = GWB victory.

Tim, McCain has a well known history of blowing his lid, Obama does not.
Posted by: DD | February 22, 2008 12:25 PM

I don't think Maureen Dowd would agree with that, you must of forgotten about their dustup a year or so ago, she asked a question about his big ears and after the speech he went right over to her and jumped in her face ,,,Barrys' temper is well documented.

This is the tip of the iceberg. The NYT gave him enough rope to hang his nomination. I suspect, we will see alot more and in greater detail.

The most shocking isn't the affair, it's the other shady stuff, after all, he is supposed to be the one who is above it all. Looks like, he's got some shadyness left in him.

Breaking campaign finance laws with the elections commision that he helped write! wow wow wow.
it's classic "do as I say, not as I do"

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“I was trying to highlight the witnesses who pulled out their guns in defense of the man shot and the ensuing 6 hour lockdown of a neighborhood that brought fear and confusion as to who was defending their life and who was taking life.

Posted by: john | February 22, 2008 3:29 PM

You “highlight” was about as clear as mud from your post and the article you attached. You made no reference to those who shot at the escaping suspects, and the article had only a single line about them.

Furthermore, the lockdown and manhunt had nothing to do with a neighborhood troubled “with fear and confusion as to who was defending their life and who was taking life.” There was no confusion. The police were looking for two suspects who had participated in the taking of a life. They were not after the pedestrians who returned fire to protect the man who was killed.

So, what’s your point?

john:

correction: You mentioned the guys who shot at the fleeing car. My mistake. But you didn't really "highlight" them insofar as you didn't really distinguish them from the violence to which they reacted.

The balance of my comments stand.

I beleive that Senator McCain has already sought anger management on a voluntary bases and we do well throughout this campaign.

Anger management is effective for motivated clients.

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