NIU shootings: Bush sees 'a tragic situation'

Gee, the man is so insightful.

"A tragic situation"?

He gets paid the big bucks for muttering this?

Once again the innocent pay the price for our national love affair with firearms. How many more have to die before people realize that guns are not the answer?

Me to Shrub: Shut up. I don't care what you think. We've been suffering through your misrule for 7 long years and the sooner the door hits your butt on the way out, the happier everyone will be. Just shut up.

"Obviously. . ." boy, Dubya's a genius.

ban all firearms. Look at the world now, how many other countries would allow people to easily get access to guns like us do?

In his defense, what exactly is the idiot supposed to say? He can't refrain from comment because it would be callous. So he's just got to spout some platitude.

I'm at least thankful that he didn't adopt the common Xtian response of thanking god that more people didn't get killed.

A horrible tragedy happens on my campus and you use this as a way to diss the President? What is wrong with you?

I am grateful for the President's prayers and the prayers of the many who support us during this terrible time.

What did you want the President to say? What he said was appropriate.
Here come the anti-2nd ammendment folks!!
Why don't we talk about banning cars... crazy people can destroy lives with anything they want and besides, cars kill more people than guns do. Wheres the outcry there? There is a deeper problem we must deal with than the mere tool used to destroy life. This country leans on secular humanism and expect any moral value to still stand? You lose any reference of right and wrong and people begin to go a little nuts with no recourse. Sorry folks.

Steve and Jennifer, if George Bush singlehandedly pulled a family of four out of burning car, saving them from death and injury, the Loony Left (the most worthless and worst of all people mankind ever offered) would still diss him and invect their hate. These people are demented, deranged, sick, pyshopathic and just plain ignorant to the hilt.

Freakshow Steve:

Not everything in this world reverts back to saving embryos.

Perhaps the killer -- a white guy with a Polish last name and probably from a perfectly decent Catholic family -- was just nuts.

Why can't you folks deal with what's in front of you, rather than prod for hidden meanings to support your religious zealotry?

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Jennifer: If prayer is all that important, then next time you should pray that the killings don't take place in the first place, you Zombie.

Posted by: Steve S | February 15, 2008 10:59 AM

Perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever read. Just stupid.

Another day and cyber bully John D has shown up again to spread his brand of right wing vomit, a filthy message of hate and paranoia. This of all posts should be free from any political jabs.

PS Little Johnny D, George Bush would never stop to help anyone in a burning car. He would have Air Force One do a low fly over while his official photographer takes photos over his shoulder. And then he would have aids put together a DVD of news clips to help with is "edufication" of the situation.

waaaaaa... be nice you meanies. Can't you tolerance mongers be more tolerant of others views? waaaaaa!!

My point still stands. Who is to say the shooter was wrong? Honestly... where do you extract that truth from? Maybe he had a valuable mission in his head. How do you say that mission was wrong? I'm looking for an honest answer here, not just more pithy name calling by people without answers.

What would I want the president to say? Besides what he did say -- which was decent and a good start -- I would want him to recognize and articulate that gun violence in this country is a problem. Then, I would want him to offer a commitment to eliminating it, for the sake of the students and families of this and similar tragedies.

In short, I would want him to say what Barack Obama has said. But he isn't capable of that level and depth of thought.

So ... Tom ... what you are saying is that you would want him to politicize it? In my opinion, This 'obvious' tragedy should not be used in that way. We are already knee deep in the polotical rhetoric, let's not bring this into it as well.

If you teach children that they are just a complex chemical reaction, and that there is no right and wrong, What do you expect to get????

Steve S:

If the question is whether the shooter has a defense to first degree murder due to some delusion or other mental impairment, I agree that's a perfectly valid concern.

If the question is whether our secular humanist society is to blame, I think you're not just on the wrong track but on the wrong galaxy. There's about 300 million of us in this country and only a small handful do this sort of thing.

You sound troublingly like Jerry Falwell (or whichever freak) who tried to blame 9/11 on our tolerance for gays.

Homosexuality and secular humanism are not comparable. Secular humanism is the mindset that all ends with the indivual human's mind and moral code. S.H. says we define our own right and nobody can say otherwise. Apparently, the shooter found he had some right to do what he did. Without any moral absolute, who is worthy to say he was wrong? Nobody has answered my question here. Its a very real question and concern! Who defines right and wrong when religon is shrugged off as illegitimate?
call me what you will, but think it thru.

Who defines right and wrong when religon is shrugged off as illegitimate?
call me what you will, but think it thru.

Posted by: Steve S | February 15, 2008 2:42 PM

Steve, we have these things called laws. Perhaps you've heard of them? We'll in this country we have these things called elections, where all the people select representatives to go to various levels of government and decide if certain actions should be allowed. If not they can passs a law, saying that the people have decided that the certain actuion is not allowable.

As a result every locality has determined that shooting other human beings not in self defense is not acceptable behaviour, and has made it illegal.

They have managed to do this without reference to God or becoming a theocracy.

What a ridiculous column of comments. You all seem to be arguing about Bush and worried about politics, when innocent college students have just been killed. Please have some kind of respect for the families that have just lost their loved ones.

...a tragic situation, (that we won't do anything about because it will offend the base.)

...a tragic situation, (that we won't do anything about because it will offend the base. heh heh)

Sounds like another faith bases solution to us.

I don't know why you people decided to try and use this situation for personal gain. A friend of mine was shot in the incident, in my hometown, where I go to school. Have some dignity and keep your bullshit inside for at least 48 hours - give me that long to grieve.

Bush is such an uber idiot. "I ask our fellow citizens to offer their blessings"....!? WTF? Blessing something means to sanctify or to "extol as holy or devinely beneficent, to GLORIFY". BUSH JUST ASKED THE NATION TO GLORIFY THESE HORRIFIC SHOOTINGS! He's either SATAN personified or the biggest DUMB*SS in human history!

I'm not interested in politicians (and supposed friends) commenting on this. No one asked Shrub to open his big mouth on this. If you're not family, John, you can shut your mouth too. Let the families grieve in peace.

How do cheap words by a cretin like Bush comfort anyone?

Besides, anyone with a functioning brain knows what this human lump will say in any situation before he says it.

When you consider that the activities of this man have brought a hundred thousand times more misery into the world in the last seven years than this event, you understand the meaninglessness of his opening his mouth.

Iraqis love their children too, but American bombing - often using the horrible cluster bombs - killed and maimed thousands.

He who ignored the assault weapons ban sees some kind of problem?

Jesus can't he just shut his mouth out of common decency. He is the problem, him and every republican that has supported the gun industry over the well being of the citizens in this country.

Our children are being gunned down because we have put guns in the hand of every lunatic we have.

So shut up George and go take away their ammo. If you're not too busy chasing imaginary nukes in the middle east that is...

38 years ago I was a freshman on the campus of Kent State University where, on May 4, 4 students were murdered when National Guardsmen opened fire on students protesting escalation of the VietNam war. Now I am the mother of a high school junior who is preparing to go away to college, and I am scared to death for her safety. Do I need to pack a Kevlar vest for her? Which is more frightening...the government sending armed troops on campus or deranged armed intruders with guns on campus?