Obama sweeps 'Potomac primary,' McCain in GOP: The Swamp
The Swamp
Posted February 12, 2008 9:55 PM
The Swamp

by Mark Silva

ALEXANDRIA, Va. – Sen. Barack Obama swept Democratic primary elections in Virginia, Maryland, and Washington, D.C, on Tuesday, with a “Potomac primary’’ romp that could position the junior senator from Illinois as front-runner for his party’s presidential nomination.

On the Republican side, Sen. John McCain of Arizona also carried the three contests -- boosting an aleady substantial advantage in his bid for the GOP’s nomination. Former Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, who ran well in rural quarters, insisted he will challenge McCain until the end.

.“Today, the change we seek swept through Chesapeake and over the Potomac,’’ Obama said at a rally Tuesday night on the stage of his next contest, Wisconsin. “We won the state of Maryland, we won the Commonwealth of Virginia, and though we won in Washington, D.C., this campaign won’t stop until there is change in Washington, D.C.’’

“We have now won East and West, North and South, and across the heartland of this country,’’ Obama told his crowd. “We have given young people a reason to believe and we have brought the young at heart back to the polls who want to believe again.’’

The results of the Democratic voting lent renewed suspense to the campaign heading forward, with Obama securing big wins that could boost his momentum in looming big-state contests with Sen. Hillary Clinton. Obama overwhelmed Clinton in tTuesday's biggest contest, Virginia’s.

Clinton immediately launched what will become the most critical stage of this primary campaign, with a rally in El Paso, Texas, on Tuesday night, following her humbling defeat by Obama in Virginia.

“We’re going to sweep across Texas in the next three weeks, bringing our message about what we need in America,’’ said Clinton, promising a leader ready on “Day One… I’m tested, I’m ready, let’s make it happen.’’

Obama had drawn support from Clinton’s usual stronghold of women and drew heavily from African-American voters who have been loyal to him in all the early contests. Clinton strategists had maintained that the Potomac region’s demographics, particularly with its wealth and its relatively high percentage of African-Americans, favored Obama’s campaign.

In Virginia, the former first lady was hoping to offset Obama’s advantage by winning immigrants and former Clinton administration members in the Washington suburbs – together with working class voters outside of Richmond and Charlottesville and throughout rural areas.

“Hello, this is Hillary Clinton and we have a chance to change America today,’’ the senator said in taped, automated telephone calls to voters in Virginia as the polls were closing Tuesday, citing health care and college education as primary concerns. “If you stand up for me today, I’ll stand up for you every day in the White House.’’

The message which Clinton employed with working class voters here – focusing heavily on universal health care and job creation – is likely to amp up in Texas and Ohio, the delegate-rich states where Clinton hopes to make a stand in early March. At the same time, broadcasting a campaign message throughout Ohio and Texas requires big money, something which Clinton could have trouble raising in the weeks ahead, following Tuesday’s losses and a weekend of primary election losses to Obama.

It was the Democratic voting which held the greatest drama for a virtually tied contest: With Obama carrying a weekend winning-spree to the steps of the nation’s capital, a frustrated Clinton already was already turning her attention toward bigger contests in early March. The senator from New York moved on to campaign in Texas before polls had even closed here.

Both Clinton and Obama remain far from collecting the 2,025 convention delegates needed for the Democratic presidential nomination. But the two entered Tuesday’s contests nearly tied – with Clinton claiming 1,147 delegates and Obama 1,142.

Obama, long an underdog in this contest, hoped to erase Clinton’s edge and take the lead in the party’s contests Tuesday, with 168 pledged delegates at stake in Virginia, Maryland and the District of Columbia.

McCain had cornered far more delegates for his party’s nomination than either of his remaining Republican rivals -- 719 for McCain, with 1,191 needed for nomination. Huckabee had 241 delegates heading into Tuesday’s voting, and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas 14. With 116 at stake on Tuesday, McCain hoped to inch closer to his anticipated nomination.

For Obama, Tuesday’s three primaries along the Potomac could deliver powerful new momentum, extending a weekend sweep of victories in the Louisiana primary and caucuses in Maine, Nebraska and Washington.

For Clinton, who had faced opinion polls portraying a strong advantage for Obama in Virginia, Maryland and the District of Columbia heading into Tuesdsay's voting, the next challenge lies in big states down the road.

Clinton already is airing radio ads in Wisconsin, which will hold its open primary in a week on Feb. 19, and she was touting a new endorsement by retired senator and astronaut John Glenn of Ohio in a bid to regain her campaign’s steam in the delegate-rich primaries of Ohio and Texas on March 4.

The Clinton campaign is deploying her husband, former President Bill Clinton, to campaign in Wisconsin on Valentine’s Day – with the 42nd president planning stops Thursday in Milwaukee, Madison and La Crosse.

Clinton, who loaned her own campaign $5 million as money was running short, also has reported reenergized fundraising since the Super Tuesday voting on Feb. 5, when she claimed major-state victories in New York, California and elsewhere. Obama carried more states – from Colorado to Connecticut and from Minnesota to Georgia – and was hoping to ride a wave of wins through Tuesday.

Open-voting Virginia, the biggest prize Tuesday, offered favorable territory for both Obama and McCain, who have benefited from the ability of swing-voting members of both parties and independent voters to support them in open primary contests. This also is an important, shifting state which has turned toward Democratic in recent state elections and could provide the party with a new, key Southern state in November’s election.

“We bring in voters who haven’t given Democrats a chance’’ in the past, said Obama pollster Cornell Belcher, citing support from independents.

Mark Penn, Clinton’s chief strategist, countered that Clinton holds appeal for women voters and Hispanics. "Hillary Clinton has a coalition of voters well-suited to winning the general election," he said.

The Maryland and D.C. contests were closed to party members.

Huckabee had hoped to stake a claim in Virginia, adding to a string of Southern state primary victories, including his home state of Arkansas.

He has insisted that he will not “walk off the field’’ until it is certain that McCain has claimed the nomination. The former governor of Arkansas and ordained Baptist minister maintains that McCain will have a difficult time rallying “the foot soldiers’’ of the Republican Party – the social conservatives whom Huckabee has successfully courted in many places.

Huckabee, at a breakfast with reporters in Washington on Tuesday, also offered an assessment across party lines:

People have “underestimated Barack Obama and his capacity to inspire,’’ Huckabee said Tuesday. “He has energized an enormous [part] of the electorate.’’

Huckabee, suggesting that Obama could make for a tougher Democratic contender in November, said, “Voters, ultimately, when they are thinking of a leader, are not thinking necessarily of someone who can fix the carburetor, but someone who can drive the car…. That’s where I think Obama has had the distinct advantage.’’

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When Barack Obama won the South Carolina primary the Clinton's disparaged and debased African Americans by explaining he won only because of his race. When he won in States such as Minnesota, Maine, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Washington - States with less than 10% African American population the Clinton's again tried to belittle his wins by stating that Democrats won't win those States in November anyway. I fervently hope and pray that the voters in Texas and Ohio see what the Clinton's are doing and make their voices heard when they vote in their State's primaries. They need to send the Clinton's a very strong message that the politics of mud slingling, lies, rumors, innuendos, racism, character assassination and personal destruction will no longer be tolerated. The despicable manner in which Clinton has conducted her campaign should be something the American people need to speak loudly and clearly about - that they have had enough and will not tolerate the Clinton's and their win at all costs, mean spirited nasty brand of politics. Voters in Ohio and Texas please let your fellow Americans know that you too want change and a candidate who will inspire you and uplift you. There is only one candidate running who has a message of change, hope, and working together to solve our nations problems and that candidate is Barack Obama. Say NO to divisiveness. Say NO to polarization. Say NO to Hillary Clinton.


Clinton needs to win above 65% of the delegates in Ohio, Texas and Penn as well as break even with Obama in the rest of the races. Obama volunteers and voters turn out heavy and hold the line and it will be over on March 4th.

AS OF TODAY

STATE TOTAL OBAMA CLINTON VARIANCE

1150.62 999.38 151.24

Arkansas 35 8 22.86% 27 77.14% -54.29%

American Samoa 3 1 33.33% 2 66.67% -33.33%

Oklahoma 38 14 36.84% 24 63.16% -26.32%

Massachusetts 93 37 39.78% 56 60.22% -20.43%

New York 232 95 40.95% 137 59.05% -18.10%

Tennessee 68 29 42.65% 39 57.35% -14.71%

California 370 163 44.05% 207 55.95% -11.89%

Arizona 56 25 44.64% 31 55.36% -10.71%

New Jersey 107 48 44.86% 59 55.14% -10.28%

New Hampshire 22 9 40.91% 9 40.91% 0.00%

Missouri 72 36 50.00% 36 50.00% 0.00%

New Mexico 26 13 50.00% 13 50.00% 0.00%

Iowa 45 16 35.56% 15 33.33% 2.22%

Nevada 25 13 52.00% 12 48.00% 4.00%

Connecticut 48 26 54.17% 22 45.83% 8.33%

Alabama 52 29 55.77% 23 44.23% 11.54%

Utah 23 13 56.52% 10 43.48% 13.04%

Delaware 15 9 60.00% 6 40.00% 20.00%

Louisiana 56 34 60.71% 22 39.29% 21.43%

North Dakota 13 8 61.54% 5 38.46% 23.08%

Maine 24 15 62.50% 9 37.50% 25.00%

South Carolina 45 25 55.56% 12 26.67% 28.89%

Illinois 153 101 66.01% 52 33.99% 32.03%

Minnesota 72 48 66.67% 24 33.33% 33.33%

Nebraska 24 16 66.67% 8 33.33% 33.33%

Colorado 55 37 67.27% 18 32.73% 34.55%

Georgia 87 60 68.97% 27 31.03% 37.93%

Alaska 13 9 69.23% 4 30.77% 38.46%

Washington 76 53 69.74% 23 30.26% 39.47%

Kansas 32 23 71.88% 9 28.13% 43.75%

Idaho 18 15 83.33% 3 16.67% 66.67%

Virgin Islands 3 3 100.00% 0 0.00% 100.00%

Democrats Abroad 7 2.8 40.00% 4.2 60.00% -20.00%

District of Columbia 15 11.25 75.00% 3.75 25.00% 50.00%

Maryland 70 48.3 69.00% 21.7 31.00% 38.00%

Virginia 83 57.27 69.00% 25.73 31.00% 38.00%

Last three totals are estimates.


Well into 21st Century, the US doesn't seem to be ready for a female president. What a shame! What a shame!


What scares me is that Obama will win the primary (among the voters) and truly be "the people's candidate", yet, Hillary's insider machine politics of locked in super-delegates will steal the nomination from Obama.

Should this happen, I wonder if the Democrat Convention will resemble 1968.


Miles, I'm terribly insulted that you believe that I, as an Obama supporter, voted for him not because I believe in him but because I don't believe in my sex. Sounds like you don't believe in women who vote with their heads and not their genders.


Traffic update: Hillary Road is being resurfaced and Barrack Obama is driving the STEAMROLLER!


I agree with everything Mark Jeffery Koch said. Just say no to Hillary and the negative politics of the last 20 years. Regardless if you are Democrat or Republican say no to the Clintons. Bill Clinton (with Hillary's) complete support) committed perjury before the grand jury when he lied and said he did not have sexual relations with Monica. Marion Jones is going to jail for lying to the grand jury about steriod use and the Clinton's think they should go to the White House. DOES ANYONE WANT 8 MORE YEARS OF THIS?


Poor old Hillary. She's just the victim of a vast Left Wing Conspiracy.


Hillary Clinton's vision, experience, passion and ability to lead and start immediately will win her the White House. Obama has alot of feel good rah rah cheerleader lines in his speeches and some good ideas, but Hillary has a solid workable plan and like Bill she will do exactly what she says, one of the few politicians who you can count on to seriously get alot of good things done. I am voting for Hillary because she is the right choice, especially for what America needs right now.

WE LOVE YOU HILLARY!!!

Hillary All the Way!!


Super Delegates are part of the DNC nominating process. If the Super Delegates all decide to support Hillary, that is their earned choice as delegates. If you don't like the system, then fight to change it, but for now, those are the rules, so stop complaining. Hillary and the delegates that choose to support her have paid their dues and have earned their right to be a part of the process.


Ok...I am getting SUPER psyched for Obama. I think the tide is finally turning and people are starting to realize that Obama is the MOST electable of the two candidates. I CERTAINLY do not want that war-mongering Senator from New York to win the Dem's nod...Let's get JACKED people, we're about to have another president from the great state of Illinois!!!!


And while McCain is campaigning on the perceived effectiveness of "the surge", the political solution remains hopeless:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2008-02-12-iraq-goverment_N.htm


I am a 43 year old Latino mixed European AMERICAN woman and a feminist. Because I am a feminist I am voting for OBAMA@@@@!!!
It is not about the sex of the person it is about the character. Hillary does not speak to me and does not ring true. In eight years as the wife of the President they could not get universal health care enacted. What makes anyone think she could do it now?


Remember months ago when Bruce was lecturing Swamp reporters and readers that the polls, which showed him well behind Clinton, meant that the Obama hoopla was misguided and overblown? Those same polls showed his beloved GOP had dumped on McCain. You got to love the process of democracy.


miles,
Did you ever think that candidate B.J's wife may have some deep flaws?

Like ummmm, when she had pervert hubby B.J. pardon 16 F.A.L.N. terrorists in 1999 so she could get the 1.6 million Puerto Rican votes in New York.

Some people don't forget miles...

Paulo


For the comment:
"Well into 21st Century, the US doesn't seem to be ready for a female president. What a shame! What a shame!"

I think the US is socially ready to vote for a woman president. I just don't think that the woman is Hillary Clinton. Comments like this expose your motives for voting for her. Regardless of my vote for Obama, they both share this piece of history and even if a loss is in her future, she will be equally remembered for this moment in American history.


Hillary only represents the past. Barack Obama represents the future. If Latinos have any brains at all they'll realize she's a racist, using Latinos and Blacks against each other. Nowhere near her husband, never will be. Nobody likes the Clinton's anymore anyway. The few Clinton supporters that I do see on blogs are starting to sound look and I'm very sure feel RIDICULOUS!!!!


Could you pleaase have an official total of delegates awarded to each candidate..they seem to change which makes it difficult to see who is winning at the moment


Barack Obama as the son of an immigrant father who left his family when he was two years old has overcome incredible odds. He is a man of obvious intellect and integrity. A fresh breeze to do away with the sixteen years of stank in the White House we have suffered through. Yes the Clinton years were better than the Bush ones but should we be proud of Bill? He left and the democrats lost the House of Representatives, the Senate and of course the White House. Not so great a legacy verdad?

Vote for Obama and our country will be viewed with respect again around the world and we will use our treasure for good like education, health care, and Americas infrastructure.

We are spilling blood daily and spending our hard owned cash in massive amounts for a war that should never have been fought. I am a Cuban American U.S. Army Vietnam veteran, my grandfather fought in WW1 and my son fought in Iraq. Barack Obama has it right that our enemies were right were we needed them in Afghanistan and we let them get away and now they are getting stronger regardless of what George W. And his surge b.s. tell you. Guns vs butter plain and simple. We need to vote for change before we are totally broke both financially and morally.

From a mixed racial background to President of the Harvard law review, to community organizer, to U.S. Senator, to President of the United States. This story is the American Dream in real life. Latinos vote for someone of mixed race born to a teen mother who took this start and made all of us immigrant children proud. SI SE PUEDE CON BARACK OBAMA SI SE PUEDE!! YES WE CAN INDEED!!

These are my opinions and I am sticking to them!

RAUL DEJESUS PEDRAZA A Latino who got on the bandwagon way early.


Greetings from Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea. I can't wait to see Bush Junior leave the prime office soon. Would be glad to see a lady rule and a black man run the oval office in the history of USA. However, at this point in time, you need a man to steer the ship when in rough waters. An open minded and bit of a change too. Not someone remotely controlled by Corporate America. C'Mon small peoples of America, let your voices be heard. Vote for a change. You don't want more killing in Iraq.

However peoples, the Lord shall let His Will be manifested soon.
Peace to you all this hour.

Yandamani Mapiso Sr
Port Moresby, PNG


Not ready for a female president?Shee-ut, I've been ready for one of them thangs dang near forever! Just not one who supports our invasion of Iraq, and who supports the "PATRIOT ACT", aka the Brave New World act.

Fock you, Hillary, and the Bill you rode in on!


So, miles - if Clinton were ahead, would you jump to the conclusion that the country isn't ready for an African-American president? Hate to break it to you, but quite a few of us don't subscribe to identity politics.

I am a woman; I am a baby-boomer; I think Obama is the better candidate this time around. Period.


Hillary could not get health care for us because she did not have the support needed to do so. The Republicans did everything in their power to block every attempt to get the ball rolling. How dare the First Lady want to take an active role in the White House rather than spend her time picking out million dollar china and planning the menu for White House dinners. I love Hillary. Whatever Bill did, she held her head up high and acted with dignity and grace under the most horrible of circumstances. It sounds like lately, this may not be the case (in regards to losing to Obama). I am very impressed by Obama and the more I learn about him, the more I like him. He talks to us ... the little people ... the heart and soul of America. The rich don't make this country great, it is the little people like you and me who shop at Walmart and Kmart that keep the economy strong. When we suffer, the whole country suffers. All the rich care about is getting richer and looking down on us so they can feel superior. When will we learn. I have a sick feeling that the bigots are going to have a field day with this election. Don't vote your ignorance and don't vote your fear. Research the candidates and vote your heart.


should they let canadians vote, its obama all the way


A sparrow does not make a summer. Whether Hillary or Barack win this one, they'll eventually have to face Mccain. Common sense should prevail, and due procedures should be followed. The Dems need cohesion at this point and and should stick to the maxim that a house divided is a house waiting for the wreck ball. That is to say that the kind of infighting I am seeing, if it persists, will unavoidably result in the election of a Republican as President. If this happens, no one should be blamed but ourselves.


We'll break the glass ceiling, but we'll do it, I hope, with a woman about whose husband we can say "what does he do again?" Sibelius and Napolitano leap to mind.
I don't know what Margaret Thatcher's or Angela Merkel's husbands do, either.


I can't believe the number of people voting for this numnut! Our country is in crisis and he's got NO track record and NO solutions! I hate Hillary as much as the next voter, but at least the woman has the experience and credentials for the job!

The only benefit in Obama winning would be that it would make McCain a shoe-in for the presidency.


This is the biggest trap ever. The Republicans went to vote for Obama so they can get rid of the real threat: Clinton.

Once Clinton is gone, Obama will be sandwhiched by the Republicans. This is the biggest ploy ever. And, all the blacks always fall for it. After 200 years, they still fall for the same old tricks! Wake up!!!


As the Obama campaign gains speed, Hillary's last stand has to be in TX, GW's state.

It's quite possible that GW's folks will come out to support Bill's wife. And if TX and OH go Hillary's way, she'll stem the Obama tide.

Joe Klein of TIME dismissively writes that "(Clinton) simply knows more than Obama." So either the American public is too dumb to have figured that out or Obama has learned what JFK and Ronald Reagan learned before him. Presidential politics aren't about "the beef" or taking tough questions from the public like, "How do you do it?" Presidential campaigns are ALL ABOUT convincing the American people that you're the one they want to see and hear over the next four years.

If that's the criteria, Obama will win. If not, he loses. But if he loses, the Republicans will keep the White House. Not because blacks won't vote for Hillary, but because the independents and cross-over Republicans who voted for Obama will not vote for her.


Barack Obama is not the answer. The man is a great public speaker but he does not have enough experience to be President. Another 10 years maybe, but Barack will not get the U.S. out of the trouble it will be in after Bush leaves. Clinton and McCain both have a lot more experience. The whole change idea is nice but I don't believe it will happen.


It's not that America isn't ready for a female president. It's just that Shrillary is not the female to fill that role


I totally agree with Mark Jeffery Koch. She should just admit she is getting her but kicked. Maybe finally the non-establishment democrat voice is being heard. Its no longer business as usual. Dems are not going to be the lobbyists lap dog.


Yes, what scares me is that the super delegate insiders will elect Billary and not respect the popular vote. I am a university professor, female, in my early fifties, white, and I support Barack Obama. Go figure, Hillary... I also live in Los Angeles, and it is very sad that the Clintons use racial divides to pursue their quest for power. Latinos, who seem to have bought into this, please think again. Obama has more to offer ALL of us.


I love how women rationalize their vote against a woman. I hope feminism is not as dead as it appears. It's no wonder that women defeated the ERA amendment. They lack the vision that African Americans do with their candidate. Believe. Vote for Hillary! A future with promise, not one with slogans stolen from the United Farm Workers. (Si se puede) I guess those younger voters don't even know the origins of Yes we can. Again, research your candidates. THe UFW endorsed Hillary because they believe in her message and the promise of getting things done.


This campaign has been great! It has stirred peoples' interest and been quite an education. It's better than a page turner mystery novel. And, it is real!!!. With the critical state our nation and world is in it is wonderful that we have, by very unlikely circumstances, been caught up in this epic situation and learned so much more about ourselves and our country. It is also wonderful to see people from other countries be so interested and excited also. Much of it could be the intense dislike of George Bush. I think that is where it started. But, Barack Obama has given us the opportunity to grow -- as individuals and as a nation and as a member of the world community. Could it get any better. Yes, it could. That the promise of hope and the chance to roll up our sleeves and be active participants in our lives be realized under the leadership of a President who offers us hope, respect and a sense of dignity...and also extends that to the world.

Go Obama!

(Plus with a greater sense of wisdom and knowledge we can still elect a woman president - later when the right woman comes along.)


if you vote for obama because he is good looking or a great speaker your an idiot. the last time that happened we elected JFK and got into a 15 year war called vietnam. he has not done one thing for the residents of illinois that elected him obama sucks


Identity politics is not a strategy; it's a death sentence.

"Mark Penn, Clinton’s chief strategist, countered that Clinton holds appeal for women voters and Hispanics. "Hillary Clinton has a coalition of voters well-suited to winning the general election," he said."

Speaking of HRC's weekly race card,
she was at it again on CNN over the weekend, trying to demonize the "black voters" in Louisiana, looking to "scapegoat" them for Obama's win in that state. She says on CNN, and I paraphrase: "I have immense respect for the black voters affinity toward Sen. Obama, but when I get the nomination, I hope to united our voters against the Republicans."

So, when blacks vote for Obama, we're dividing the country, but when Latinos vote for her, their votes are principled??

I find it very interesting that when Latinos support a candidate whom they believe to be sensitive to issues affecting their communities, or simply throw their support behind a candidate for placing a Latina at the top of her campaign, Latinos are considered "respectable members" of the electorate; "a force to be reckoned with." But if a black person has anything but a reasoned, point-by-point analysis for why they are supporting an African-American candidate -- their vote is "emotional" and less legitimate.

Hillary really is a fork-tongued politician, who will choose the path of political expediency when it suits her, principles be damned! Yes, Obama is a breath of fresh air and he has certainly got my vote! I urge others to wise up!


If Obama wins the presidency, I'm moving out of the country. This country will be scary if that guy is in charge...


i don't think Obama will be a good president. If Clinton loss the primary, I will vote for McCain for the president.


For a while Sean Hannity was promoting the "Stop Hillary Express." Seems sort of short-sighted on his part. Keeping Hillary in the race is the GOP's best hope for victory in November.

Be careful what you ask for Sean, it is starting to look like you are going to get what you want courtesy of a distinguished senator from Illinois!


FIRED UP! READY TO GO!
I just hope and pray that the Secret Service keeps working over and over time so we do not have to hear that Senator "O" plane has crashed or something like that, 'cause he is going all the way to win this presidency and reconcile the American people with themselves and with the world at large... I believe that were he to become the, the United States of America will really become the undisputed leader of the whole world: the price of oil will drop like a stone and trade between the US and the developing world will grow tenfold by 2015 as people start snapping up all those American-made goods that have no equivalent in the rest of the world, despite all that talk to the contrary... YES WE CAN!


Our country has two very qualified individuals who, in my opinion, could do an excellent job as president. However, Mr. Obama is by far the future of our country, he not only gives all of us the sense that our country will be a great coutry once again, but he has all of the American people believing that. Our country has been in need of a man of his stature for time, I'm proud once again to be an American who can once again hold his head high, thank you Mr. Obama.


Paulo, I love how you haters can say such disgusting things in the name of high-mined sanctimony, but nobody can so much as BREATHE on Obama without being called a racist or worse. Can't have it both ways.


It is so obvious that barack Obama is the better candidate.You don't vote for a candidate because the candidate is a Woman.Texas please do not screw things up like you did with the birth of the bushes.


@dal

Yes, but surely this is just an oversight of the American media. Most Europeans probably know:

(a) Merkel's husband is a chemistry professor at the Humboldt University.

(b) As for Thatcher's husband, Sir Denis, that's a good question ...


Dear "Hilary All The Way"

Your quote, "Hillary Clinton's vision, experience, passion and ability to lead and start immediately will win her the White House" I have to question. How does Hillary have the experience to lead or start imediately in the White House? Has she been president before? NO! She was there back pedaling during White Water...picking up after Monica L. She was NOT leading the country, and she's not leading the country as a Senator now.

Seems Hillary will say what ever is needed to the crowd in front of her no matter if it's the truth or not. She makes excuses for why she didn't win votes, why she voted for the Iraq war, why she wished a bill that she voted for didn't pass.

She represents the same tired old political shenanagins Washington is famous for.

Do we really need another Clinton in office? Then we would have Jeb Bush running in 2012!

Obama all the way!


I am a South African and obviously can't vote,but never before have i been so interseted in American politics as I am now,Barack Obama is blowing fresh air into American politics again.Listening to him speak on tv,I am convinced that he is good for the way the world will see America in the years coming.GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!


Given the opportunity to receive education at one of the best institutions in the world, he chose to break the norm with hard core drug use. Given the opportunity to run one of the most developed nations in the world, I question what he would do with that privilege. There are some who traveled to the same destinations that he did, but they took the high road, keeping the end goal in mind, avoiding vices and weighing out long-term goals and short-term satisfaction. He has not demonstrated that given the opportunity that many of us are not, he would rise to the challenge cleanly and not cop out. President of any color is welcome. But sound judgement and leadership do not point us to Obama.


All of these wins are meaningless. If Obama cant show that he can win in a big state then he will not get the nomination. Hillary knows all that she has do is win Texas and Ohio and come close in Penn. If she does that she will win. Judging by Super Tues she stnads a much better chance in those 3 states in March.


I am so tired of McCain using the war to scare people...He is the worse person for the Republicans, he has no chance of winning...that would be another 4 more years of a Bush saga....VOTE NO TO MCCAIN


Well into 21st Century, the US doesn't seem to be ready for a female president. What a shame! What a shame!

Posted by: miles | February 12, 2008 10:18 PM

But it appears we are ready for an African American one. Hooray! Hooray!

As we approach the 40th anniversary of the assasination of MLK, let's finally make his "Dream" come to fruition. I know he is smiling down on America and Obama, that perhaps, finally, man will indeed "Not be judged by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character."

Go Obama


We should be voting on the issues..Most importantly, NAFTA, illegal immigration, taxes (cost of living), and companies being allowed to outsource all their workers overseas. Hillary and Obama both will raise taxes, encourage NAFTA and the trade deficit (selling our country to China and INdia) and allow illegals to take over any manual labor jobs left in the USA. They both are pretty much running on the same platform with the same spin on the same issues.

Also, as far as the war, the generals or people who actually HAVE BEEN to Iraq know you can't pull out immediately. But we will, and when we do, we will be attacked. We've never been attacked during WAR TIME.. only during PEACE TIME.

And we will. Mark my words.

But the most important issues to all of you s/b NAFTA, Illegals (crime and jobs, cost to support them on welfare and medical), and the trade deficit. With Hillary and Obama this will stay the same and you all will be unemployed.


Clinton and McCain both have a lot more experience. The whole change idea is nice but I don't believe it will happen.

Posted by: laura | February 12, 2008 11:39 PM

But they only have experience at doing what has us in trouble in the first place.

It's time for a new direction.


Yeah, there still seem to be a lot of people that are blindly buying into the notion that Hillary is SO experienced and that sets her apart. Be real, she is not anymore experienced with the simple convictions it takes to rule the US as a Bill signing figurehead, with diplomatic chops. Obama is better for us right now. Also Hillary is far from "feminist", that is a sad reason to vote for her right now, and if she is what passes for "feminism" today than the world really hasn't moved much in the last 30 years. Yikes!


Living in N. Virginia gave me a choice of whose policies I preferred. It was difficult to choose bewteen John Edwards and Dennis Kucinich. Because I work in healthcare and see the devastating effects of the current system on myself and most others around me, I voted Dennis: along with many other doctors in the group I have belonged to for the last 14 years, physicians for a national health program. Fixigng the healthcare system is no easy issue. It demands commitment to the health of everyone, an understanding of the economics and psychology of Americans, who want something but don't know how to get there. Dennis has spoken about and campaigned on the PNHP single-payer platform for many years. John Edwards was beginning to see the light, especially with the drama and traumas of his family affairs. I would be happy if either Barack or Hillary can take this most difficult, basic issue in its seriousness and begin outlining stronger policies of repair. Paul Krugman identified some of the weaknesses of Barack's policy. But it is also well known..unfortunately, that people don't purchase insurance unless they are mandated. But it must be also affordable. Single payer answers both questions. Hillary's policy covered twice as many as barack's. But what I am after, if the race is really close, or set, is to get into difficult discussion about policy. Because, I am also aware that if you leav e things loose to get elected, when you are in the chair and want to get something done that is different from your original impression, you must struggle with the fifth estate ( the media) first....And then, the battle is nastier than ever. In the hope of struggling on policy grounds and leaving ugly character defamations to " the other party..." if they must


I'd say that the Clintons' express has derailed. It is clear that true Democrats have seen right through the transparent ego-centricity of the Clintons and their win at any cost brand of campaigning. Ask yourself if they would accept the second spot on any ticket, as a loyal Democrat like Lyndon Johnson did. The answer is a resounding NO! I will hold my nose and vote for them in the unlikely event that they are nominated, but it now appears that I won't have to.


I'm not orried about a Black President, I'm worried about what the black population believs this will entitle them to and how they will be empowered by his election to office. The slugs whihc represent abou 35% of his black constituency will have thir hands out further and wider than they have been, and the criminal element will even be more wide spread. Not to worry. We are armed.


I am thrilled to see Obama gaining more and more momentum over the last week. I've been following him for years, since he was the junior senator from IL and made a splash on the hill. Some people argue that "oh, we can't elect Barack because he was born and raised a Muslim." I can think of no better background for a leader at this time. The understanding of Islam that he has is exactly what we need to begin to resolve the issues in the Middle East. It will still be a long road, but to have a President who isn't just a naive and close-minded fool would be a great step forward.

So I stand behind Barack Obama. To me, he represents a new world view and an educated understanding of Middle East culture.


I think either Clinton or Obama are suitable to hold the office of the President.

Obama is a brilliant man, and he will surround himself with a brilliant staff as well.

Clinton also is brilliant & we know how good things can be when a Clinton is in the White House (I'm speaking of the economy, not the bedroom).

While McCain is a maverick, he's still a Republican. With McCain, we'll be in Iraq for the next century (or longer).

Obama or Clinton will at least bring the world to our side to resolve world matters (Iraq, Iran, Palastine). Unlike the Republicans who refuse any outside effort to direct our misguided foreign policy.


I would really like America to send a message to Hillary and Bill Clinton that we are to too smart for all the backdoor negative campaigning. My hope is that Barack Obama stays on message and does not join in the mud slinging. If he does he will have a new address come January 20, 2009.


While everyone is all excited over the upcoming election,...don't become so sidetracked that nobody watches the two criminals still in the White House. History proves we can't trust the Bush Administration and while were busy with the upcoming election the two lame ducks could be hatching new plan for further decline of our country. We need to watch those two or there may not be much for Obama or Hillary to be President of.


James D. Feeley:

Seems like you are stuck in 1963 Mississippi - you probably are still upset that lynchings are illegal now.

To all you Republicans who are dissing Obama's experience: If what you say is true, then you should have never elected your hero, Ronald Reagan to be President. What kind of national experience did he have???


The Clinton's era is OVER. The lies, racism, entitlement, winning by any means necessary including slander. The country is MOVING forward into the 21st century with new ideas, energy, millions of young people engaged, The Audacity of Hope, and a mindset that we are not going backwards. YES, WE CAN.

THANK YOU BARACK OBAMA for making a DIFFERENCE in your BRILLIANT campaign and all of your staff who have worked tirelessly to get the message out to the American people. I, we THANK YOU for your unyielding message.

We dare to hope, dream. We will not divide.


Posted by: James D Feely | February 13, 2008 10:20 AM

It's not a question of "entitlement", it's about fairness. Most African Americans want to work hard to have the opportunity of their own piece of the "American Dream". There are a few slackers (as there are in the white community) who just want to slide by and hope for a "hand out". But they are in the great minority. But without the education and training, that a free society has a duty to provide all its citizens, this cannot happen.

Your attitude is repugnant to all good Americans. And shows a deep rooted racism that you must have learned years ago.

MLK hoped for the day when African Americans could shout "Free at last, Free at last. Thank God allmighty, I'm free at las." That freedom cannot come without a quality education. And access to quality education is a right, not a privelege.


To "Hillary All The Way" I really do not understand how anyone in their right mind can support Hillary for President of a local dog kennel much less for President of the US. Aren't these the same people who were almost impeached from the White House. Because of her and her husband Mothers all over the US had to explain to their very young children what oral sex was, and then trying to explain the cigar. When she stayed with Bill it showed the country that she thought it was OK to do this. Really I think she stayed because of being a Power Broker meant more that anything else. The years with Bill were just terrible and it will be again terrible should Hillary become elected. If the so called super delegates put even one delegate into Hillary's pocket it will be the same as looking at the chads when Bush was put into office.
As a man I HOPE to see a woman take over the Presidency, I only have a couple of elections left, BUT I DON"T WANT IT TO BE THIS WOMAN.


Seems to me that either way, Democrats have a dilemma. If Senator Obama wins the nomination, he will be seen as a dream killer, a man who will have to deal with the anger and resentment of literally millions of committed feminists who for decades have been banging their heads on the political glass ceiling and who believed that 2008 was at long last the year they had earned---that finally, a woman (and proud feminist, to boot) would win the party nomination and the Presidency. If Senator Clinton somehow comes back and wins the nomination, she will be seen as a dream killer by African-Americans, by the young, and by the far left wing of the Party---and she'll have to deal with them.


Let me just say that I really enjoy reading the comments of my fellow americans. I am glad to see that people are really taking an interest in who is running this country. That being said; I am not necessarily looking at someone with experience as much as who has the drive and ambition to take this country forward and help repair the damage done by the former presidency. If you actually listen to all the candidates, none of them have experience at running the most powerful country in the world. What they have experience in is working with other congressmen, greasing palms, listening to lobbyist and pushing their own agendas. What we need to listen for as the voting public is who is ready to sit in the white house and make the tough decisions to change this country around. If you look at today's politics, who is really making the decisions for us. The lobbyist, big business, and the wealthy. As a middle-class american, I am looking for the candidate that is going to help my future look brighter. Someone who is going to put this country back on the right track for my children and children's children. So lets not get caught up in the sex or color of the candidate, but who is going to work hard for us, The class of americans who keep this country moving by getting up to go to work and taking care of our families and paying our taxes. I want a candidate who will represent us at the table when these laws are created and enacted and will make sure that the people's voice will be heard and considered. I believe that candidate is..... Barack Obama. I think that the clintons did a great job for this country in the 90's. I believe that George W Bush did a great job in his first term as president. But, what we dont need is a monopoly in white house. 16 years of two families running this county is enough. Its time to get some fresh faces in D.C. People who have been intouch with the people. The clintons have been in top spot government for over 35 years going back to the days when he was governor of Arkansas. They have had people answsering to them. Hillary is not going to have the pulse of the nation. Her advisors are telling her what to do and say. Barack came up from ground. Yes, he hasnt been a senator that long. That goes in his favor, just 8 years ago, he was organizing and rebuilding commonwealth. He was an attorney fighting for civil rights. He has had one-term in the ILLinois senate and one-term in the US senate. I dont want a career policitian, I want someone from the grass roots so that they have the pulse of the community. Their decisions will be true to heart. No fault against Hillary, but she should continue to serve the people of New York, because the rest of the country is clearly making a statement as for who they want to take this country to the next level.


What many are not aware of: Our Military, like our economy, is steadily weakening. Service members are tired of long deployments and are not being trained when they return from being deployed because there is no equipment or personnel to train with (it's all in Iraq). I've been to Iraq and I've witnessed the money being made by defense contractors (Bush and Cheney's buds) and I'm convinced that this is why we're still there. We need a President (Obama), that will end the war and allow our military the time to train and build strength for future threats. I'm particularly swayed by Obama's promise to talk with world leaders, friend or foe. You can't be an effective leader if you're not willing to look someone in the eye and tell them what you think and feel.


The posts reading Barack does not have enough "experience" really upsets me. He has plenty of experience as a civil servant, a publicly appointed lawyer for those that could not afford one. His experience is working with community organizations on the south side. Excuse me that he has not been held public office 40 years and "gained experience".

McCain- his experience is all military based. We see where that gets us. Billery- a corporate liar, I mean lawyer. Do you listen to either of them speak? There isn't even enthusiasm in their voice, it all cue cards. Is that who you want!?!?

"Experience" = Corruption, Lies, Greed, and Complacency. Anything not lining their own pockets or seen as a great addition to their resume are ignored.

Obama cares about the average American, not big tobacco, not Halliburton, not Harken Oil, or other lobbyists/self interests.

"Experience" is what has gotten us where we are today. New blood will get us out of it.


i sincerely hope all the people who posted that they would leave the country if Obama is elected president....do.

GIT!! have fun!


Anyone who thinks that Obama is not controlled by corporate money, obviously is pretty naive to Illinois politics.

And just wait until you see the level of corruption that follows obama all the way to washington.

Obama is from the Blago, Emil Jones, Daley school of Government.


Hilary Clinton had eight years during Clinton Administration to change or influence the health care plan she is now Marketing, she failed to do so.She had 4 years in the US Senate to sponsor a motion On Health Plan but she didn,t do so.She should let Obama,s ideals excell.She should not pull him back.Its Obamas momentum period


Obama is certainly a charismatic speaker. Problem is he speaks only in generalities and offers platitudes. Does anyone know what he really thinks? Does anyone really know what specific changes he’d make. Some will say that he doesn’t need specifics because it’s obvious he has good moral character but he teemed up with an indicted political fund-raiser to buy a house and he’s changed his position (an votes in the senate) a number of times when it appeared that his positions weren’t well received by the public. He scares me because no one really knows where he would attempt to take the country if he were elected.


Lou

I agree. Let's all say "Hello, President McCain". And in four years I hope Obama will be the former senator from Illinois.


Hillary said .. "Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act," "it took a president to get it done"

Hillary was making the point that MLK and LBJ, a black leader and white leader worked together to defeat racism, so what's wrong with that? Isn't that what we all want? or according to Obama maybe it's not what we really want?

Obama's opportunistic "race card" reply? "Senator Clinton made an unfortunate remark, an ill-advised remark, about King and Lyndon Johnson"

Ok I see Barack, so it is "unfortunate" and "ill advise" to say black men and white men in power should work together to defeat racism..

Who was pitting black against white here?

Let's get this straight once and for all, Hillary made a comment of how black and white leaders must work together to defeat racism and Obama trashed her for when Obama plunked down the race card calling what she said "unfortunate and ill advised" It was Obama who twisted what Hillary said and called it racist.

Race card, Obama.


Hillary is ready to be President but Obama has experience too! with his long time pal Tony the Slumlord Rezko who was just indicted on a 26 counts of extortion, money laundering and fraud! You empty headed Obama supporters with no values are supporting a guy who lied to the world during the South Carolina debate and said he worked with Rezko for just 5 hours. LIE. he has known Rezko in fact for 17 years and has done huge real estate deals with him while taking hundreds of thousands in dirty campaign money too. The thing is, he KNEW Rezko had a reputation for buying politicians and continued to deal with him anyway, ever ask yourself why? or do you just worship Obama blindly like he is some God? like the idiots that voted for Bush did when they ignorantly voted for him? FOOLS. Let's not forget the behind the scenes deals Obama has made with his #2 campaign contributor Exeleon Corp too! don't be surprised when that radioactive waste turns up in your back yard. Exeleon, Obama's best friends, his second largest campaign contributor, are the largest nuclear waste producer in the world! so much for you environmentalists voting Obama, you ignorant Obama people are clueless, you are being taken for a ride by a slick attorney. Look at his record! check the facts! forget what he is lying to you about, this guy just wants to be President, he doesn't care about you. Hillary would never do what Obama does, vote for Hillary if you want real change and someone we can count on to do the right thing. Obama says "some people will say anything to get elected" well let's see, he in fact was doing drugs while Hillary was hard at work for America, he did take money from criminals he was actually doing business with, is involved with the polluting nuclear power brokers, "some people will say anything to get elected?" no we are just telling the truth about Barack, the truth he is hiding from you blind Obama supporters.

WE LOVE YOU HILLARY!!!

Hillary All the Way!!!!


Obama is WAY off when he says "We have to decide on change or more of the same" Hillary Clinton is one of the good ones, not "one of the same" or part of "the past" that is just ludicrous. Bill Clinton radically changed what Bush Sr did to ruin America. We should be proud of Bill's work as a Democrat and the Clinton's rewarded for that, not lumped in with Bush's failure of "politics as usual" or "the past" characterizing the Clintons this way is disrespectful to all they did for our country, the Democratic party and just an outright LIE. The Clinton's I remember did the exact OPPOSITE of everything the Bush's have done. There are some serious changes needing to be made in Washington and SOME new blood can help to make that change no doubt, but you don't just expel every one of them, you will end up with more the same mess. You keep the good ones and Hillary is one of the best. You don't throw the baby out with the bath water and expect everything to be fixed, VERY unwise. Eliminating the good ones and their experience will not solve a thing or bring the kind of change we need. Obama is an advisor, not a President. Hillary is ready to lead as our President.

Hillary All the Way!!!!


Bottom line, we can count on Hillary to get the United States out of the big gaping hole Bush pushed us into. Obama has a few good ideas, ideas he can lend to Hillary's administration, but he obviously can't be trusted to run the country, he lies way too much.

Hillary ALL the Way!!!!


Apropos of nothing in particular...it's worth considering that the environment that has made possible the Obama campaign's rocket-like ascent in awareness and legitimacy was largely the product of two artificially engineered iniatives:

1. The steady message of "Regime Change in Washington" crafted and incessantly pushed by party Democrats for at least the past 7 years.

2. The equally steady message of "Hilary is the (insert your bete noir of choice here)" crafted and incessantly pushed by party Republicans for at least the past 15 years.

I don't think either group was expecting Obama as the end result. An excellent illustration of the Law of Unplanned Consequences for future public opinion shapers...


The last time I checked George W. Bush wasn't some think-tank Einstein, so I guess that makes Hillary Clinton's argument about experience a little irrelevant. What Barack Obama does offer is the belief that we as a nation can work together across party politics. (Or should I say in spite of them). I'm a Democrat who had no love for Ronald Reagan, but I admired the way he galvanized the Republican party and even moved Independents and some Democrats to the right. It's not about being the teflon president as he was labeled, it was about being so well-liked that people were willing to forgive your mistakes. Barack Obama has the potential of doing exactly the same.


Obama is a low class cigarette smoker. He bemoans the high cost of health care yet partakes in one of the most destructive personal habits around. Then he has the gall to ask us to pay for it.


A nice-sounding bill called the “Global Poverty Act,” sponsored by Democratic presidential candidate and Senator Barack Obama, is up for a Senate vote on Thursday and could result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States. The bill, which has the support of many liberal religious groups, makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations. Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has not endorsed either Senator Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton in the presidential race. But on Thursday, February 14, he is trying to rush Obama’s “Global Poverty Act” (S.2433) through his committee. The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends. The bill, which is item number four on the committee’s business meeting agenda, passed the House by a voice vote last year because most members didn’t realize what was in it. Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require. According to the website of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, no hearings have been held on the Obama bill in that body. A release from the Obama Senate office about the bill declares, “In 2000, the U.S. joined more than 180 countries at the United Nations Millennium Summit and vowed to reduce global poverty by 2015. We are halfway towards this deadline, and it is time the United States makes it a priority of our foreign policy to meet this goal and help those who are struggling day to day.” The legislation itself requires the President “to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.” The bill defines the term “Millennium Development Goals” as the goals set out in the United Nations Millennium Declaration, General Assembly Resolution 55/2 (2000). The U.N. says that “The commitment to provide 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) as official development assistance was first made 35 years ago in a General Assembly resolution, but it has been reaffirmed repeatedly over the years, including at the 2002 global Financing for Development conference in Monterrey, Mexico. However, in 2004, total aid from the industrialized countries totaled just $78.6 billion—or about 0.25% of their collective GNP.” In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that declaration commits nations to banning “small arms and light weapons” and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child. The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as “the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development.” Jeffrey Sachs, who runs the U.N.’s “Millennium Project,” says that the U.N. plan to force the U.S. to pay 0.7 percent of GNP in increased foreign aid spending would add $65 billion a year to what the U.S. already spends. Over a 13-year period, from 2002, when the U.N.’s Financing for Development conference was held, to the target year of 2015, when the U.S. is expected to meet the “Millennium Development Goals,” this amounts to $845 billion. And the only way to raise that kind of money, Sachs has written, is through a global tax, preferably on carbon-emitting fossil fuels. Obama’s bill has only six co-sponsors. They are Senators Maria Cantwell, Dianne Feinstein, Richard Lugar, Richard Durbin, Chuck Hagel and Robert Menendez. But it appears that Biden and Obama see passage of this bill as a way to highlight Democratic Party priorities in the Senate.
This elections cadidates are CFR members, marxists , globalists and Liberals, I don't know who you would vote for but for me it wouldn't be Obama. If anything I would be fighting to keep whats coming from happening, not voting it in.We have to do our homework.


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