Clinton: I've crossed commander-in-chief threshold: The Swamp
 
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Posted March 6, 2008 3:40 PM
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Sen. Hillary Clinton arrives at a press conference accompanied by thirteen military officers who support her in Washington DC on March 6, 2008. (Photo: ROBYN BECK/AFP/Getty Images)

by Rick Pearson

In a Cabinet-style setting, surrounded by retired military leaders, Sen. Hillary Clinton said the public should ask whether Democratic presidential rival Barack Obama has met the criteria needed to become the nation’s commander in chief.

“I think that since we now know Sen. (John) McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that. And I think it’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold,” the New York senator told reporters crowded into an infant’s bedroom-sized hotel conference room in Washington.

“I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy,” she said.

Calling McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee a good friend and a “distinguished man with a great history of service to our country,” Clinton said, “Both of us will be on that stage having crossed that threshold. That is a critical criterion for the next Democratic nominee to deal with.”

Unveiling proposals to refocus the U.S. war effort on Afghanistan, including seeking a commitment from allies to join in increasing troop strength to fight a rebuilding Taliban and other terrorist forces, Clinton noted the Times Square explosion near a military recruitment office was a reminder that it was “imperative that we be vigilant as we continue to face threats at home and abroad” and she promised to provide law enforcement and the military what they need to protect the public.

Clinton has stressed national security in states with a large military presence, asking voters who is best equipped to be commander in chief on the first day of office without needing a training manual. Obama has questioned the depth of Clinton’s military expertise and foreign affairs knowledge from serving as first lady.

“There are certain critical issues that voters always look to in a general election. National security experience (and) the qualifications to be commander-in-chief are front and center. They always have been. They always will be,” she said.

She said she and McCain had traveled to Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan together as she repeated a line that surfaced from the campaign trail. She and McCain “bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign, Clinton said, while “Sen. Obama will bring a speech he gave in 2002,” stating his opposition to the Iraq war as an Illinois state senator.

Preparing to campaign in Mississippi, which holds its primary on Tuesday, Clinton said she would leave it up to Michigan and Florida leaders to decide upon “the best approach” to resolving the issue of getting the state’s national nominating convention delegates seated in Denver in August. Both delegations are not allowed to be seated under national Democratic rules because both states moved their primaries in advance of Feb. 5.

Clinton “won” both states, although the Democratic contenders did not compete in either state and Clinton was the only major name to appear on the Michigan ballot.

Party leaders in Florida are looking at the potential of a new, but costly, primary to replace the primaries that cost the state all of its Democratic delegates and half of its Republican ones. In Michigan, there is talk of a potential caucus.

“I think it would be a grave disservice to the voters of Florida and Michigan to adopt any process that would disenfranchise anyone therefore I am still committed to seating their delegations and I know they’re working with the Democratic Party to determine how best to proceed,” she said.

“But it is striking that we had two elections where the votes in Florida were of great importance. 1.7 million Floridians turned out to vote. They clearly believe that there votes would count and I think there has to be a way to make them count,” she said.

But Clinton refused comment on a statement made earlier in the day by her chief spokesman, Howard Wolfson, who compared Obama’s more aggressive criticism of her campaign to Whitewater special prosecutor Ken Starr’s activities in probing her husband’s White House.

“I’m not going to respond to that,” she said.

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Hillary's going into delustional territory again. Does she actually believe she can compete with McCain on national security? No, just no. The democrats would be wise to try to steer the campaign from that issue because they will lose to McCain every time on it.

Worse, is Hillary suggesting she had some kind of vote on national security matters as First Lady? Without a security clearance? The more we know about the Clinton White House, the more scared I am.


Crossed the C-in-C threshhold? What is she talking about? Does this mean that everybody who walks in the front door of the White House is qualified to be president? Or is she saying she was in command of the military when Bill was president? What nonsense. I'd like the next president to have some clue what he or she is saying.


How many of those military officers behind her got promoted by and owe their careers to Slick Willie?


How does McCain's being a prisoner-of-war make him an expert on national security?


Jeff,
When we pointed out John McCain inexperience and lack of understanding, by his own admission, in economics you replied that it did not matter because he would surround himself with experienced and knowledgable advisors. Why have you changed your tune when it comes to national security? Just another example of why you are King of Double Standards.


What threshold? A lifetime of experience? Fat lot of good that did her. She should keep this up, say her and McCain are the way to go...for everyone who wants to keep the Bush presidency and foreign policy going.


What on earth experience does Hillary have as "commander in chief"? I'm sorry, her first lady experience doesn't qualify her to be President any more than Laura Bush's does...


gimme a break, I don't care how many generals she's got standing behind her. we've all seen how well she's run her campaign, just imagine the turmoil if that 3 am call comes......


You have to be kidding me. It's okay to tout that you have spent more years in Washington and you have met more world leaders than Barack. That gives you credibility that you are ready.

But your single bad decision completely destroys your argument that you are MORE ready (or more right for the job).


Have not.


Did any of you reporters ask precisely how she's qualified or did you just dutifully write it down and pass it along? I think those are called press releases and that would make you a public relations rep and not a journalist.


When they ask about the unity ticket, which the media always does because they can't think of anything original to ask about, his answer should be that it appears that my opponent is actually campaigning to be McCain's VP, that's the only unity ticket that it seems like she seeks.

Barack should run against them both beginning right now. He should refer to the Bush-McCain-Clinton war.

They are a continuation of the past...war mongering, fear mongering, lobbyist pandering, refuse to speak to your enemies, non tax return disclosing politicians that we need to rid ourselves from.

It is definitely time to turn the page.


THIS WOMAN IS SICKER THAN I THOUGHT.

Senator for 8 years; First Lady for 8 years and she's crossed Commander in chief threshold? Commander in chief qualification is NOT conferred to or acquired through osmosis.

A woman who can be tricked by George Bush is not even qualified for Senate Majority Leader. Only rifffaffs will believe her gibberish.


Most Americans are aware of the courageous service John provided as a naval aviator and POW . But few can fully appreciate how bad the egregious hospitality of the Hanoi Hilton was .His main concerns were for other POWs’ life threatening conditions and how he could help them.

To this day John’s truthfulness, dedication and what he believes in is demonstrated by his sincere actions and service as a Senator of the United States of America. We could do a whole lot worse than vote for John Mc Cain and with your help the next president of the United States.


Give me a break, Hillary Clinton! It takes more than just stepping your feet across the door as First Lady in the white house to being Commander in Chief. Where are your Commander in Chief credentials? You have none. Clinton has these military men around her for a photo op, just like president Bush, and she's just like Bush. The thing Clinton has is talking a good game because she knows since she and the media say that she attracts the 'less educated' she's taking advantage of them and telling them anything they want to hear, with absolutely hollowness behind it.


McCain/Clinton - That's the ticket!


It is interesting that Barack Obama contrasts himself with Hillary Clinton and John McCain while Clinton aligns herself with McCain. Do we really want two buddies running against one another?


If Hiliary is elected president then that means that a majority of the voters have decided to install her as the Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. I suppose that makes Bill the First Man, with not a whole lot to do except manage the female aids. That sounds like the fox guarding the hen house dosen’t it. But wait, Bill can also devote quite a bit of time to his foundation and valued contributors. What a deal, it sounds like having your cake and eating it too. Or to make the situation even more profoundly absurd if something happens to Hiliary then Bill’s back. Vote Republican and your worst concerns are over.


If Hiliary is elected president then that means that a majority of the voters have decided to install her as the Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces. I suppose that makes Bill the First Man, with not a whole lot to do except manage the female aids. That sounds like the fox guarding the hen house dosen’t it. But wait, Bill can also devote quite a bit of time to his foundation and valued contributors. What a deal, it sounds like having your cake and eating it too. Or to make the situation even more profoundly absurd if something happens to Hiliary then Bill’s back. Vote Republican and your worst concerns are over.


"I think it’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold" May be I am dumb, could she explain what is that threshold? and How her pal McCain and she passed it and Obama didn't?
She an Mccain“bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign" and “Sen. Obama will bring a speech he gave in 2002”--- so all her adult life should be counted as experience??? and in Obama's case, his adult life started in 2004?
I really don't understand the logic - may be I am really dumb!!!!


Once again I see that the hillary haters are out in full force. Don't you ever get tired of your rants? Anyway, suffice it to say hillary wasn't your average first lady and sorry, but she's alot smarter and formidable than her competition. Get used to saluting a woman, boys.


Funny that people are focusing in the foreign policy aspect now when both Bush 43 and Clinton 42 were both governors and had no foreign policy experience whatsoever.
And what the hell is the threshold she is talking about. Obama has to nail her on empty words on this one. Enough with the tit for tat bickering back and forth. Get back to his message and call her on her tactics for mud slinging and push the hope angle.
He does need to answer a few questions, but get them out of the way now while Pennsylvania is 6 weeks away. The Rezko thing'll be ancient history, if there's nothing to worry about, by time they get to PA.


Hillary is the best most qualified candidate we have for president. we don't need an inexperienced egomaniac and we don't need a war mongrul.


It has nothing to do with saluting a woman, punchin, and it's sexist to suggest so. The dozen or so comments preceding yours make the case against her.


Observation, it appears most of Hillary Clinton critics appear to be men.


So if you count your years of being First Lady as commander-in-chief experience, then I have to ask, are you then negligent in allowing Al Qaeda to attack the USS Cole and our embassies in Africa? Then are you responsible for not doing enough to dismantle Al Qaeda before chimp boy got in office? Are you responsible for the failure of the Israeli-Palestinian peace conference that led to a more militant Israeli policy?

You canNOT pick and chose your experience if you count the White House years!

I am SO sick of the media falling hook line and sinker into her 'experience' meme. It's sickening.


Say what you will, but Hillary Clinton's credentials outshine Barack Obama's. I'm among those who'd like to see the dream ticket with her as President and Barack as vice president. She'd bring knowledge into the equation, and he'd continue to captivate those who want a new face. Together, she'd be the one to rattle McCain and Senator Obama could be the good guy in the background.


So "punchin" - could you elaborate on how her atypical first lady experience applies? Too funny.


The over-reaching, the self-delusional approach, the unmitigated arrogance - I suspect that is just part of the reason that Hillary pisses so many people off. I know that running a country necessarily involved politics, and politics can be brutal at times. What she cannot comprehend is how badly she served her own interests during her health care disaster, simply by being herself.

Now, running for president, she pulls the same games, the same low blow attacks, and the same deceit and spin. She forgets that her actions now define her administration. Even if she is somehow elected, there is no way that any self-respecting democrat or republican will trust her far enough to even offer a olive branch. For their own self-preservation, they will want everything, every promise, every statement, and every suggestion engraved in granite, embossed in stainless steel and notarized with 4 eyewitnesses.


Hillary is basically endorsing McCain over Obama. I can't believe she's sunk to praising a Republican over a fellow Democrat. If there's a new depth to plumb, she's proven she'll find it.


absolutely ludicrous.

why havent the press queried hilary on her "qualifications" to be commander in chief?
why is she being allowed to cite her husband's records as her own?


Jackson, you love taking things out of context, don't you? McCain led the Senate commerce committee, so I don't yield an inch on whether he's qualified to steer the economic ship, but to answer your question you need only look at Hillary's statment. She's saying SHE PERSONALLy has "crossed the commander in chief" threshold. She's not comparing herself to pentagon generals or other presidential advisors. She's comparing herself to McCain. The fact that you don't readily acknowlege that shows how politically skewed your vision of what's happening here is. Almost every other poster here has already recognized that.

Has Obama fever made you blind to reason General Stonewall?


is this the action of a true leader ?

THE MATH FOR HILLARY'S PATH

the hillarrite strategy is all too clear :

her ONLY path to the nomination is by using racially motivated voters, cheaters and republicans to get there

it HAS already happened

she cheats by TOTALLY ignoring the VOTERS of michigan who would have certainly shown up to vote for Obama had he been on the ticket - if they had a choice - IF

the crossover voting is the ONLY reason she won texas

there were 3 million votes cast for the presidential nomination of the democratic party in texas

less than half that many were cast for democratic nominees to the US senate

less than half that many voted for any republican though three candidates popular in texas were still actively campaigning - mccain - (popular among the texas veterans and military communities and die hard red state republicans), ron paul (a texan whose immigration and tax stances are very popular in texas) and mike huckabee (from neighboring arkansas with the endorsement of the dallas morning news, famous texan - chuck norris and Bible-belt icon james dobson)

texas is a red state - bush's home state and a state that listens to limbaugh - you do the math

hillarys plan is to;

1) get the delegates by manipulating to get the florida and michigan and superdelegates counted inappropriately

and/or

2) have republicans and racists decide the democratic nomination by crossover voting in the remaining states

the math is clear, there is no other path for hillary to come close to 2024 delegates

most likely she will do both of the above

furthermore she has NO plans to release her 2006 tax forms before July (or more likely December, if then) - these are 2006 tax forms we are talking about - TWO THOUSAND AND SIX !!!!!!!!

make NO mistake - there is NO way hillary can even come close AT ALL in MISSISSIPPI without racists and republican crossover votes and hillary knows it

but SHE DOESN'T CARE

even if she cannot get quite enough racists to crossover and vote for her, she can still play the cheating card

only one question remains;

Do democrats want their nominee chosen by racists, cheaters and republicans ???


Since when does the wife being carried over the threshold count as CINC experience? Sounds like a desperate whitehouse wife.


Andrew the bank closer, the constitution also says the president is commander-in-chief of the US Armed Forces and has absolute decisionmaking in the waging of (not declaring) war. It says absolutely nothing about the president's role in economics. More proof that economics is better run by the Fed, department of treasury and other people who interact daily with the markets. As Ron Paul told Mitt Romney, the president's role in the economy is to get out of the way.


If I recall, during the Clinton's administration, the US was driven out of Somalia, our military's installation and ship were attacked in Saudi Arabia and Yemen, the World Trade Tower was bombed. All without much of a response from Commander-in-chief Bill Clinton (except his missile attack on a pharmaceutical company in Sudan). So Hillary, please give us a break! If Bill wasn't qualified as a C-in-C, what makes you qualified?


I wish a reporter would ask her to be more specific. When has she been the commander in chief or had to make any decision relevant to being a commander in chief? The only one I can think of, Iraq, she screwed up.


I agree with Al: "and in Obama's case, his adult life started in 2004?" Why does she get to count years as a corporate lawyer and as a First Lady, but he is limited to doing nothing but giving one speech?I am becoming increasingly turned off by Hillary's arrogant dismissiveness of Senator Obama while praising Senator McCain, by her pretending to have some vast foreign policy experience, her dirty tricks campaigning - including the doctored photos, and now this - what does she think she is talking about "cross[ing] the Commander-in-Chief threshold"? How stupid does she think we are? I am one of those older white women, supposedly in her camp, who definitely is not!


If Hillary could only somehow ditch her husband, she'd be a lot more acceptable to voters. The thought of him padding around the White House in his bedroom slippers is an image most people do not want to contemplate. If he can't be reined in, then keep the interns locked up.


Hillary has the momentum now, and will win this nomination based on her tenacity and strength as demonstrated in this battle against Senator Obama. The Michigan and Florida primaries will be counted or redone, and she will be nominated. Sen. Obama will likely be offered the VP slot. This will be a great ticket for Democrats.


Wow, I guess when she "opened up borders in Kosovo" with Sinbad and Cheryl Crow, they anointed her royal highness this fine honor.


John's Son: You had me with your sincere praise of McVain. Then you follow it with a post blathering on about Bill and the "female aids" (sic) and expose yourself as a complete tool. Sorry, but I'm back to believing that losing your plane and being a propaganda tool for the Vietcong isn't really all that heroic. Can't wait for the ads this fall from the 527 of former Navy pilots who expose his lies and fakery. I don't remember any Republicans saying that John Kerry was a true American hero, so I expect that Dems will forget to say it about McBush right about...now. I expect McVain to pull a Hillary and cry about how he's disrespected at a photo op right about Halloween. That should win him a few more votes from gullible goobers like you. We've already had a failed President who based his first campaign on the sympathy vote from losing his plane and bailing on his crew...W's father. How many times are you planning to get fooled?


Hillary has been endorsed by over 30 Generals and Admirals. I think they should KNOW who is qualified to be President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief!!

Hillary is the qualified, experienced candidate who has the strength and wisdom to get this country back on the right track. She has the perfect blend of toughness and strength mixed with a big heart which makes her very compassionate. She would be THE PERFECT PRESIDENT!!!

I will be voting for Hillary one way or the other! There is NO WAY I would EVER vote for Obama, who is naive, inexperienced, a liar, a fraud, arrogant, cocky and conceited!!!


Did she pass the threshold when she voted to authorize the war in Iraq without reading the NIE? What planet does this woman live on?


I have a feeling that Hillary has already split the party beyond repair. Her latest statement just proves to me that she does not care about the damage she will continue to create. Like her Husband, it is all about her.

Get ready for President McCain.


So if you're getting ready for brain surgery and they come to you and say "Well, the neurosurgeon can't come in today, but don't worry ... his wife is here. She's not a neurosurgeon, but I'm sure she's talked a lot about it with her husband." How many of you are going through with the surgery?


Saying you've crossed the threshold is not evidence of qualification. Obama had it right. None of the 3 has crossed the threshold. What she just gave us were "just words" and I hope Obama calls her out on it.


Can someone in the media please ask her what, precisely, in her "lifetime of experience" has prepared her better to be C in C than Obama?

and why the $%&@ she is going out of her way to praise McCain? For crying out loud.


While I didn't fully understand what Hillary meant by "threshhold" other than she has travelled to the "hot spots" while Obama was in Kenya searching for his roots. I guess more familiarity with the people in charge in D.C. and abroad would be one threshhold. Maybe, Obama didn't take the time to find out who these "take charge" people were. Could it be he was in too much of a hurry to become President, and took the "express route" to that end foregoing the threshholds of experience and familiarity with the world's "hot spots?" Maybe being a Senator was not enough to fulfill the needs of his ego. Thus, Obama positioned himelf as the new "hope" of a troubled America at a convenient time for him. Americans are desperate and therefore with that desperation comes the willingness to experiment with something new at a time when real change needs intelligent thought not just impressive words of a unfulfilled ego.

John McCain's biggest weapon against Obama will be Obama's inability to commit to learning the ins and outs of D.C. and the world stage.


"W" didn't have any foreign policy experience and a lot of you boobs voted him in twice.


Obama has to nail her on empty words on this one. --Todd M

I say the media has a duty to nail her on empty words. As the poster Keith said, "Did any of you reporters ask precisely how she's qualified or did you just dutifully write it down and pass it along? I think those are called press releases and that would make you a public relations rep and not a journalist."


GO HILLARY!!!!


Obama followers...get a grip. This is a race to the finish, let them get there. Whoever does faster, wins.

GO HILLARY O8


Clearly, Hillary is jostling to be McCain's VP. I'm sure that will work out for her well. And this election is, after all, all about her.


In making the case that he would be a stronger opponent against McCain, Obama has never suggested that Hillary isn't a better candidate than McCain. But that is essentially what Hillary is doing to Obama. It calls to mind the service of a flag officer known to all Americans: General Benedict Arnold.


Just what is it that John McCain knows about national security?

Oh yeah--appease dictators and ignore the real terrorists, just like the current admin.

http://www.washingtonindependent.com/view/mccain-weak-on


What experience has John McCain had? Serving in a war, though noble, does not imply foreign policy expertise. It's JUDGMENT, not experience, that matters. Both McCain and Hillary voted to support the unwarranted invasion of Iraq. Senator Obama had the forsight to insist upon real evidence. Hillary has at least come to realize how she was duped, while McCain, like Bush, is still pushing the "stay the course" line that will keep us in the middle of this two thousand year old civil war for decades, not working for the interests of the Iraqis but rather, protecting big oil's interests. What kind of judgment is that?


Just because she says it with conviction doesn't make it true.


“I think that since we now know Sen. (John) McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election..."

So in other words, Hillary plans to let John McCain play to his strengths and set the agenda for the general election and focus on national security? In what alternate universe does this make sense?


Men are afraid of strong. smart woman quit bashing Hillary.


A "a lifetime of experience" doing what?

Yeah, that's right, Hillary. It doesn't have to be true. Just saying it makes it true and we'll all believe it.

Geez, what a freakin' loon.


You've crossed the threshold alright, lady. You've crossed over into fantasyland and just kept on going. Clown.


would a lead choose this path ?

THE MATH FOR HILLARY'S PATH

the hillarrite strategy is all too clear :

her ONLY path to the nomination is by using racially motivated voters, cheaters and republicans to get there

it HAS already happened

she cheats by TOTALLY ignoring the VOTERS of michigan who would have certainly shown up to vote for Obama had he been on the ticket - if they had a choice - IF

the crossover voting is the ONLY reason she won texas

there were 3 million votes cast for the presidential nomination of the democratic party in texas

less than half that many were cast for democratic nominees to the US senate

less than half that many voted for any republican though three candidates popular in texas were still actively campaigning - mccain - (popular among the texas veterans and military communities and die hard red state republicans), ron paul (a texan whose immigration and tax stances are very popular in texas) and mike huckabee (from neighboring arkansas with the endorsement of the dallas morning news, famous texan - chuck norris and Bible-belt icon james dobson)

texas is a red state - bush's home state and a state that listens to limbaugh - you do the math

hillarys plan is to;

1) get the delegates by manipulating to get the florida and michigan and superdelegates counted inappropriately

and/or

2) have republicans and racists decide the democratic nomination by crossover voting in the remaining states

the math is clear, there is no other path for hillary to come close to 2024 delegates

most likely she will do both of the above

furthermore she has NO plans to release her 2006 tax forms before July (or more likely December, if then) - these are 2006 tax forms we are talking about - TWO THOUSAND AND SIX !!!!!!!!

make NO mistake - there is NO way hillary can even come close AT ALL in MISSISSIPPI without racists and republican crossover votes and hillary knows it

but SHE DOESN'T CARE

even if she cannot get quite enough racists to crossover and vote for her, she can still play the cheating card

only one question remains;

Do democrats want their nominee chosen by racists, cheaters and / or republicans ???


I have said that I will vote for HRC if she is the nominee. But I may have to change that, because I only vote for Democrats.

Democrats don't "scare up votes" with red phone ads.

Democrats don't play on religious and race related bigotry by word or deed.

Democrats don't threaten to up-end an election by wooing pledged delegates away from the person to whom they are pledged.

Democrats don't threaten to up-end an election by thwarting the process with Superdelegates, no matter what the popular vote and pledged delegate tallies.

So one way or another I will be voting Democratic but I may just have to write in Barack Obama to get a true Democrat.


At least we know now that Hillary will be revert back to her Goldwater girl roots and endorse her good friend John McCain when she officially loses the nomination to Senator Obama.


Punchin,

How does questioning what specific CIC credentials Senator Clinton has make someone a "hillary hater"?

And the last time the CIC was named Clinton, he may have gotten salutes, but they came out of duty, not from respect. That is earned.


No Hillary, it is not clear that you have passed that test. Keep saying it though and you'll start believing it.


Obama what have you done to be Commander in Chief? NOTHING. Hillary has her whole life of accomplishments, John McCain has his whole life of accomplishments. Obama he has a speech he gave at an anti-war rally in 2002.

GO HOME OBAMA YOUR NOT QUALIFIED!!!


Why hasn't Obama spoken up on this? It seems like Hillary is just everywhere these days, blah blah blah, giving her wacko spin on things. But I haven't seen Obama give any responses to her ludicrous assertions, such as her contention that she is qualified to be Commander in Chief. He needs to do more than to give a shirt-sleeve interview in aisle of his campaign plane. He needs to get behind a podium, with flags and generals behind him, looking Presidential, and then rip this woman's silly notions to shreds. I also don't know why Obama and the media in particular don't start reminding voters of the long, long, LONG list of Clinton scandals. I am so afraid Obama is going to blow it by being another mild-mannered Demo (like Dukakis, like Kerry), who fails to FIGHT.



SHE IS MENTALLY ILL!!!!
She is asking for a fight and Obama cannot be soft on her anymore. Expose her so called "experience" in foreign affairs, the millions the Clintons made recently in "consulting" deals with sheiks, how this is dangerous to our country, etc..


Funny that Hillary is the one First Lady who cannot assert that she learned valuable tips on the presidency as part of "pillow talk".... if you know what I mean. And, I know Anthony Lake (Obama backer and Clinton's National Security Adviser) pointed out long ago in backing Obama's foreign policy credentials that he has more foreign policy experience than Bill, Bush 2, Carter and Reagan had coming into the White House. Why doesn't Obama pound on that? What can she say in response?


Not to defend Bush Daddy, but wasn't he a CIA Director?


Obama will not win the Presidency if he cant win the BIG SWING STATES like Ohio and Florida - which Clinton and McCain won. And Pennsylvania - which Clinton and McCain will win.

If we want a Democratic president, we want Clinton to run against McCain. That is the only choice.


Hillary Clinton would have us believe that she is better prepared than Senator Obama to handle a "3.00 a.m.-in-the-morning National Security Emergency" -
Well then, on which side of the bed was Hillary Clinton snoring when a ringing phone awoke her husband on the morning of 6 April 1994 to inform them that a holocaust of one million innocents was unfolding in the East African nation of Rwanda only to have him order his generals back to bed and that nothing was to be done by “his United States” to intervene? Or when that same phone roused them in the wee hours of a July 1995 dawn to appraise the adulterous couple of the brutal slaughter of 8000 Bosnian Muslims at the hands of the fugitive Serbian warlord, Ratko Mladic, with whose political master, Slobodan Milosevic, the Clinton Administration had been cheerfully negotiating a mild diminution in Belgrade’s genocidal campaign of ethnic cleansing? Or when the National Security Advisor, Sandy Berger, rang on 20 August 1998 to report that a sortie of Tomahawk cruise missiles had obliterated the Al-Shifa Pharmaceuticals Plant in Khartoum on the entirely false pretext that it was being used by the Sudanese leadership to manufacture precursor chemicals for the nerve agent, VX? Or when the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Hugh Shelton, phoned to seek her husband’s approval ~ and against whom impeachment proceedings were underway on Capitol Hill ~ for the launching of a diversionary “Wag the Dog” bombardment of Iraq on 16-20 December 1998 on the grounds that Saddam Hussein’s regime was reconstituting “Weapons of Mass Destruction” which the world has come to know had long since ceased to exist? Or when the CENTCOM Commander paged the White House to advise her husband that several Black Hawk transport “helos” had been downed by enemy fire in the streets of Mogadishu, abandoning the men of Task Force Ranger to the tender mercies of Somali warlord, Mohammad Farrah Aidid? And over just whose eyes does she imagine she can now pull the wool by taking credit for all of her husband’s “triumphs” while washing her equally blood-stained hands of its calamities?


I wonder if McCain was waterboarded in prison. If he passed that test without disclosing any information to the enemy... they I say he is qualified for the job... to continue the 'great' job of George W Bush! Aouuuuuuuuu!


We all know that. And I think it’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold,” the New York senator told reporters crowded into an infant’s bedroom-sized hotel conference room in Washington.

“I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy,” she said.

Hillary is really full of herself. She's "commander-in-chief threshold???"

Why because she was married to Bill???

She had no National Security clearance. I tell ya it just gets worse with her by the day. I'm getting Clinton fatigue!!!


If you take the scenario of these three people actually applying for the job of Commander in Chief, I can say that if I was reviewing resumes the only one qualified would be Sen. McCain. Sen Clinton is fooling herself if she thinks she is remotely "qualified" to be the CIC. For that matter, so is Sen Obama (though he hasn't really pushed that claim like she has).

She has never "been there, done that". She has no idea what it is like to be one of us -- the struggles, the buearacracy, the hardship. To her Catch-22 is a book and FUBAR is another acronym. To us they're a fact of life. She has never put her life on the line for anything -- we face that danger nearly every day. She may have sat on some briefs and she, certainly, has a good head for wonkishness. But qualified? No -- far from it.

And, as I said above -- Sen Obama is the same way. He has never walked 10 feet in our boots, much less humped 20 miles.

It is not a factor of being "qualified" for the position of CIC. Let's face it, no one has been qualified for that position since Ike. But being unqualified doesn't mean you don't have the skills for the position -- and that is where the decision has to be made.

Which candidate has the judgement, the temperament, and, yes, the compassion for the position? For that, you have to decide for yourself. I think its Obama -- but feel free to disagree. But this discussion of "being qualified" is something Sen Clinton should drop -- she is not qualified. And the fact that she is swaggering around saying she is only reinforces my belief that she doesn't have the necessary skills, either.

Just some words from a soldier...


I really don't understand Hillary. She has become so erratic. First she shouts about McCain, now she loves him. I don't think either her or McCain are showing the type of personality to be commander in chief. Dole himself said McCain has a bad temper. Don't get him mad if you don't want a military strike in the middle of the night. And Hillary just seems to be all over the place emotionally. She seems to think she has already won the nomination in spite of realities like math. She glares. She cries. She's cold and aloof. And she thinks it is fun to go on the negative attack. And she seems untrustworthy. It was her campaign that called Canada about not really meaning it on NAFTA, not Obama's. (Was it Bill who called, who apparently was in Canada that week?) And then she uses the false claim about Obama as an attack to win. I don't want her being my commander in chief. Which war will she lie to get us into?


FJ Stratford,

Are you really serious about the Big State argument? It is one of the most hollow, of a long line of very hollow, arguments in this campaign!

Are you really saying that the Democrats WON'T support their nominee, whoever it is, against Sen McCain in every state? That for some reason the big states will just abandon their political party and cede the state because the nominee might be Sen Obama instead of Sen Clinton?

Don't be foolish.

This campaign relies on the motivation of people to vote -- pure numbers will decide our fate. And so far, no one has been better at getting more and more people enthused about this campaign then Sen Obama.

The statistic to follow here is how many people voted Dem and how many Rep in each state. And the question to ask is -- who is the best able to get the Dem number higher than the Rep number? Who won the state in the primary is meaningless -- who can get more voters to the polls in each state during the general is essential.


HRC is delusional if she really believes this.


Scene: The White House bedroom, 3 hours before dawn. The phone rings 4 times and President Hillary Rodham Clinton clears here throat and answers the phone: "Hello General Betray us... oh sorry, I mean Petraeus. So, General, this must be urgent, how can I help you? You want to what? OK, just a minute... Hey Bill, Bill!..... sorry General, he's not here can I take a message?"


Mil,
Step by step. Bill Clinton ignored Rwanda, granted. However, Bill Clinton waged war against the Bosnian Serbs and paved the way for the return of the Kosovar Albanians to their homeland. Milosevic was tried in the Hague and died in trial. No American casualties.. I don't see how you can denigrate that accomplishment. When Bill bombed Iraq, Hussein had ignored a deadline set by the UN to allow inspectors into his palaces. Clinton waited until that deadline passed and, as promised, sent cruise missles to the projected sites. Scott Ritter says that the reason that the UN was unable to find records of the destruction of the WMD is that they were probably destroyed in that bombing. I wouldn't be positive that the aspirin factory only contained pharmaceuticals (that was only the conventional wisdom of Clinton haters) the true facts have never been fully explored.
Somalia was Bush Sr's. "baby". Clinton had to deal with what was dumped in his lap and he ended up removing our troops...same for Waco which was also a Bush Sr. handoff.
The worst outcome of this Obama phenomenon is the absolute trashing of Bill Clinton, arguably the best President of my lifetime. If Clinton's surpluses had been protected and the Gore "lockbox" put into place, Medicare and Social Security would be protected for a century and the national debt would be nil or nearly so.
Shame on you Democrats in name only. You turn on good people to promote your man.


John McCain was permanently disabled because of real torture he suffered as a POW. Every man can be broke. No man would belittle him on that point.


How many of these military men agree with Clinton rep Gloria Steinem's assessment that McCain's prisoner of war experience was over-rated.


I truly don't understand how hillary clinton gets away with claiming 35 years of experience. I haven't seen one journalist ask her that question. as far as candidates go, i can say that majority of us would respect hillary clinton a lot more if she was less willing to go to any level to win. if kathleen sebelius was running in hillary's place, there would not be a doubt in my mind who I would vote for. being a man, i would be proud of voting for her but with hillary, i have given up. the type of character she has shown in the last 2 months have made me switch and i am happy to have done so


She voted for the Iraq war without even bothering to read the intelligence. Sen.

Jay Rockefeller read the report and urged her to vote against the war because he didn't think the Bush administration's claims were supported by the intelligence.

Sleeping with a president doesn't make you qualified to BE president.


Little Miss Lieberman


HILLARY CLINTON IS TRYING TO THROW THE ELECTION! Her campaign is doing everything they can to taint the Democratic nominee. Because Barack Obama will be the nominee by every criteria even if she were to start winning continuously. Their argument that "neither of them" can get to 2025 without superdelagates denies the fact that if she were an honorable losing candidate, she would concede her mathematical loss and drop out of the race, allowing her party's ACTUAL nominee to accrue the rest of the pledged delegates necessary for a "pure" victory. But she refuses to leave with class. She and her disciples instead heap kitchen sinks, babies and bathwater, and all the mud they can carry onto their own party's presidential candidate. Why? Is her continual praising of McCain at the expense of Obama meant to help the democratic party? Of course not! The only way for her to get the nomination is in some form of underhanded way. So either democrats move forward with a damaged Obama or a Pyrrhic Clinton. But it won't be Clinton, because the democrats would see the everlasting cost to the party to alienate it's voters by allowing Clinton to engineer a technical win over the poular votes, states won, and pledged delegates. So what remains is an Obama candidacy that may win despite the Hillary inflicted slander, but might not because it's still a 50/50 nation and she's done all she can to tip it McCain's way. So, she's essentially trying to throw the election to the republicans. I guess she figures she can take another run at it in 2012. Maybe the winning mix is unlikability and 39 years of experience.


I recall reading somewhere that Obama admitted that if he had been a U.S. senator and had seen the very intelligence report that other senators saw, he would have also voted to go to war in Iraq.

So, just because he opposed it as an Illinois senator without the benefit of seeing the intelligence report (no matter how false that had been), it does not make him an "anti-war" person. It seems he is just riding on that remark to get elected, in my opinion.


Hillary can't keep her out eye on her husband, how the hell does she expect to keep an eye on the country.


Yeah, I feel so much safer after the past few years of National Security legislation.

Based on Clinton's voting record in this area, I think it's time to give the guy who voted against the war a try.


She's crossed the Demander and Thief threshold, shaming the press into ignoring her duplicity on the Nafta memo episode while using dirty tricks to fool voters into voting against Sen. Obama. I don't see a single shred of experience that qualifies her to the Commander in Chief but she certainly is qualified to play the role of Benedict Arnold.


I just found out that Hillary called the Canadian Embassy in Washington:

From Ottawa:
Brodie told reporters that the Clinton campaign had called the Canadian embassy in Washington to tell officials to take her anti-NAFTA rhetoric "with a grain of salt," said local media.

Were we duped by Strickland-Hillary Machine in Ohio?


So, the Democratic primary is a sneak preview, a peek into the new X-rated White House TV reality show. There’s an undeniable sense of déjà vu, watching as the Clinton players return to the White House. It’ll be an encore performance. With each action packed episode, the old scandals make way for the new. There’ll be eight years to catch-up, beginning with Buddy the dog, who incidentally like many others, have met with unforeseeable circumstances, which prevent their return for the sequel: http://theseedsof9-11.com


Why are the press like lemmings that just take dictation from Hillary and don't even ask questions? The only accomplishments Hillary "Rove" Clinton has is failed healthcare, records of number of scandals and picking out china patterns. What is wrong with the media -- ask some critical thinking questions for once -- you owe it to the public.


Hillary can't keep her out eye on her husband, how the hell does she expect to keep an eye on the country.
Posted by: Phyllis, Dallas TX | March 6, 2008 9:21 PM

Just what I was going to say. I look forward to the day a woman is POTUS, but I want it to not be one that is riding on the coattails of her husband. I find the whole idea of a spouse of a former President becoming a President herself quite disturbing. Especially on the heels of another disastrous family dynasty.


Recession economy, wars we need an experience, intelligent and calm president to lead us. Mrs Clinton is a strong leader give her a chance you will not be disappointed.

We all know that Mr Obama is Christian with some backgrounds with Muslim ideology and inexperience. I would think twice before I vote for him to be the president of U.S


Blog owner I have not seen many positive comments posted for Mrs Clinton. Are you neutral or pro Obama? I posted a positive comment for Mrs Clinton I will wait to see if it is posted.


Six weeks ago I'd still have been happy with either one as the nominee. But now, seeing Hillary's new, scorched-earth, smug campaign style, I am sorry to say that -even tho I've always supported the Clintons- I find myself beginning to loath her.


EXPERIENCE we can believe in - with her years of foreign affairs experience, work on the Senate Armed Forces Committee and the fact that she's brilliant and always on top of whats going on at home & around the world - it's obvious, Hillary is the clear choice on all the issues. We cannot afford to have Rookie Obama or more of the same McCain.


"Observation, it appears most of Hillary Clinton critics appear to be men."
--Lou

Nope. Bad foreign policy judgment, ran a campaign that says nothing for her executive experience, and lost my vote in NC. Even if we share XX chromosomes.


"I'm among those who'd like to see the dream ticket with her as President and Barack as vice president. She'd bring knowledge into the equation, and he'd continue to captivate those who want a new face."
--Steve

Not the first time I've seen it suggested that he could bring to her ticket his pretty speeches, the only quality she and her supporters seem to acknowledge. That is not why I voted for him*, that is surely not why so many spent hours caucusing for him and knocking on doors and calling. Give it up. Offering us the chance to look at him "in the background" will not get you a single vote. No issue on which I'm voting for him gets addressed by having him stand behind her being "a nice guy."

*These include: positions I approve on important issues, like denouncing torture, closing Guantanamo, re-invigorated public diplomacy; an ability to get things done--this campaign shows he can organize from the bottom up, which is a good sign of making progress on his domestic priorities; sound judgment; and he doesn't come pre-hunkered, but has a record of identifying people who care about getting the policy right, and working with them.


Without any security clearance, unless Hillary Clinton wants to admit that she and Bill broke federal laws or unless she wants to admit that she was with GW when he was planning the war on Iraq, her claims to national security experience are full of crap.

If she's lying to us now when she's a candidate she'll have no reason to tell us the truth when she's president.


I'm sorry. It scares me that Hillary can think it's okay to say she is the better candidate to run against "a good friend" John McCain. Not only can he rip her to shreds in the general election with his years of experience (which she claims makes her a better cand