Clinton: 'No intention of stopping'

We are all PAINFULLY aware that her MASSIVE ego will not allow her to stop. Even if it screws up the democratic party. It's all about Hillary.

The Hillary show. What a vile spectacal it has become. Like a circular firing squad!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwXP_eVVM9A

After Hillary's Bosnia debaucle, she is like the Wizard in the Wizard of Oz, when the curtin has been pulled away and we see the sad reality and not the Illusion or myth they want perpetrated on the crowd. This fabricated recount of Bosnian Sniper Fire is a breach of the Public Trust or should be. It goes right to the Heart of Credibility and to Character! Some in the media have gone on to say, "it's no big deal", or this amounts to "silly season." However, to willfully mislead the public for gain is wrong and should have no place in our politics today and certainly should not be rewarded by a vote of confidence and our presidential votes. Politicians should not get a pass from the Media -- to be able to get away with such outlandish distortions, lies and exaggeration. They should be held to a Higher Standard than the rest of us if they want to hold the highest office in the land and to lead America to a better standard of life. This is what is wrong with our politics of today, a "do and say" anything policy that is allowed to be acceptable when on the otherhand, we raise our children not to lie and steal and cheat. However, they have been telling these Tall Tales for years and this time got caught. No thanks to Andrea Mitchell, however, who accompanied her on this trip and did not report it until it became public knowledge, then Ms. Mithcell did reporting on it. The American People however, Expect and Demand that thier Politicians be trustworthy and truthful!

Hillary often boasts that she would not meet with her enmies, however, in an attempt to divert attention away from Bosnia she sat down with Richard Mellon Scaife, her arch enemy and personal persecutor, the very same Richard Mellon Scaife, who during her White House years accused her of the murder of Vince Foster and said that Bill and she had committed 60 murders to hide their crimes, in an ill-advised and ill-timed manner to re-introduce the Rev. Wright issue -- by the way, the very Rev. Wright that they Invited to the White House.

Then in a further attempt to divert attention away from Bosnia, they sent out Sen. McGovern to add more fuel to the Gender Fight, already started by Geraldine Ferraro, so now we have a racial and gender war/fight beginning to brew in their hopes to keep up the divisions they have already inflamed in the public discourse. That they are willing to divide the country back into a gender and racial war tells you much about thier character.

This fight could have possibly been over if it was not for Rush Limbaugh, and Bill's visit to Rush during the Texas Primarys. Barack might have won Texas but for the 100,000 Republican votes casted for Hillary which put her slightly over the top. However, the Republicans who vote for Barack, genuinely like him, unlike the Republicans who vote for Hillary, as a way to "bloody" Barack up, edged on by Rush Limbaugh! As for her Tonya Harding, Tonya was sent packing in disgrace! As for Hillary's scheme to make Barack look "unelectable", it looks like due to her Bosnian Misadventure, the "Chickens are Coming Home to Roost"!

Neither the Leahys, the Dodds or the Kennedys have the right to decide the winner of this primaries, the voters do.We should wait untill all state have voted. I am an Indipendent, but I hope Clinton stays in the race untill the Convention if necessary.

The Obama operatives are getting really desperate.
I hope Hilary can ignore all of this and still forgive the Obamas when it comes time to pick a veep.
Forgiveness is a sign of a mature person. It's one of HIlary's strengths.
She's got strength without the narcissism of Michelle and Barry from Hawaii.
She can still beat McCain. Obama can't--becuase of the hypocrisy--people sense this at a very basic level:
Imus/Wright;
Poor Community Organizer/Let Rezko trash public housing in his district
I'm anti war/yet vote for its funding
I'm not connected/Daley position for Wife at U of C
I'm a new voice/My friend Joe Liebermann
Hilary Hits me/The media trashes Hilary daily
I represent change/But Leahy and the Kennedys are pushing (trying to) HIlary out of the race.
That's just the hypocrisy stuff.
People know now that his position in the race is based upon FAKERY.
The republicans crossed over and voted him up.
They're too sexist to do that for Hilary.
Hilary can still win in the Fall.
the big question now is--does Obama deserve to be on her ticket?
Does he deserve to be re-elected in the Il Senate?
I'm starting to think no to both of those questions.

It is not surprising that people are jumping off the Obama bandwagon when you consider the rude comments from his supporters. To go further, at times lately Obama supporters are not only acting against democracy they seem to think they are above it, not allowing dems in FL and MI to be heard, telling superdelegates to fall in line "with the will of the people." It doesn't seem that Sen. Kerry, Kennedy, or Gov. Richardson are following this mantra.

If Richardson, Kennedy and Kerry are so concerned about the "Party" --then why have they DISOBEYED the rules and not voted the "will of the people"??? HILLARY WON BOTH NEW MEXICO AND MASSACHUSETTS --so RICHARDSON and KENNEDY are OBLIGATED TO CAST THEIR SUPERDELEGATE VOTES FOR HILLARY!!!

IT'S REVOLTING WHAT THESE IDIOTS ARE DOING TO HILLARY.

OBAMA IS A RACIST --HIS AGENDA IS A RACIST ONE AND HE WILL NEVER EVER WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION.

I am a lifelong Democrat --but if Obama is GIVEN the nomination ===I will most definitely vote for McCain.

Why would Hillary quit now ?
There is no chance in hell of her winning.... No wait, there is a chance..... she did sell her soul to the devil for this nomination,but he hasn't delivered.... YET !!!!!!
A lot of people are asking her to step down, but like she said " I am a fighter " She fought everyone including her own party for her failed Health Care Plan and got knocked out. She got weak knees and threw the fight against George Bush with the vote for the war in Iraq. Her fight in Bosnia where she was riddled with gunfire.... well that would be a draw. So I can't understand why so many people want her to quit now. I mean she is so close. What if Tonya Harding suddenly reappeared and was working for Bill ?

James Meeks – an Illinois state senator, pastor of one of the largest churches in the state and a declared spiritual adviser for Obama – came under fire for comments rebroadcast last week calling white American mayors "slave masters" and referring to black preachers and politicians who "protect" the "white man" as "house n-ggers."

"We don't have slave masters, we got mayors," Meeks said in an August 2006 sermon broadcast on a Chicago community television channel.
Aside from his senatorial duties, Meeks is an Illinois Superdelegate pledged to Obama and also presides over Salem Baptist Church, described as the largest church in Illinois.

In 2006, Meeks informed his church during a sermon he may run for Illinois governor. He was recorded telling the mostly black congregation any "white Christian" who doesn't vote for him is a "racist."

Meeks is also notorious for his strong anti-homosexual platform, although Obama is campaigning for the "gay" vote. Meeks has routinely voted against pro-homosexual legislation and has been quoted during sermons referring to same-sex attraction "an evil sickness."

Obama told the Sun-Times that he attends Meeks' Salem Baptist Church for Wednesday night Bible study.

According to Illinois State Board of Elections records, Rezko's businesses, Rezmar Corp. and Rezko Concession, contributed to Meeks' campaign funds.

I am certain that the misinformed Hillary backers believe that Hillary Clinton is going to get the Florida and Michigan delegates seated .....Well I have a news flash for you.... You can't win a game when there is only one team playing and no referees.In fact the game was never played.... now she can go home and brag about how she won, but Hillary was the only one shooting baskets. You Hillary supporters really have to wake up.

Sen. Clinton can beat McCain....Sen. Obama can not. If he is the nominee I will vote Mc.Cain

"Sen. Clinton can beat McCain....Sen. Obama can not. If he is the nominee I will vote Mc.Cain"

So, Eric...you can see into the future? Only a Republic would say something so stupid.

Sadly, this country is not ready to accept a WOMAN PRESIDENT. It took America well over 100 yrs to allow women to vote! It took till March, 1977 to allow women (working) to have credit in their own name, without a man's sig...I know...I was a part of that movement...proudly to open doors for my daughter and grand daughter. Male egos will forbid a woman in office. Often, very dependent type women will vote the way their husbands demand. Also, women tend to get jealous over successful, strong, smart women. Insecure women WILL NOT VOTE for Hillary. All of this a sad fact, making her battle unfair and harder! If Obama gets the nomination (America is again so blind, sheep following s
heep like in last 2 elections, putting Bush in office...we will vote for McCain, although Democrats all our lives. My husband is also an amputee Viet Nam Navy Vet and he supports Hillary, as do a LOT OF VETS in Florida!!!

Seems hypocritical Batack keeps attending churches clearly ANTI WHITE, even though his own mother was white and taught him how to be more like a "white man" in some ways, talk more like a "white man." If she was alive today, she would not be welcome in Baracks black churches he attends! The mother that gave birth, raised him...his white grandparents that helped raise him, sent him to finest schools would also be outcast in those black churches if alive now!!!
Barack is a hypocrit, slick talking, like a fox.
I cringe when a young woman giggles, "I am voting for him because he is cute...giggle, giggle." Oh, pleez, this is not American Idol! He is too young, too inexperienced to lead a country in war, recession, a mess created by Bush that half the blind Americans also put in office!!! Read up on his wife, Michelle..also very anti white. Do we risk having her for 1st Lady? She has no credentials for this job. Stay at home mom does not really qualify for such a position!!! They're too young to understand the concerns of health care for elderly, importance of SS, the Vet problems (Barack never served in military anyway), the true economic problems, have never been in the Governor Mansion (2 terms for clintons) or White House (also 2 terms, Clintons) & LACK EXPERIENCE NEEDED. Wake up America!!!! So much prejudice against a woman is not right. We womem have always battled this in male dominated America!!! In society, the home, the work place. I worked over 40 yrs, still working at 64, have seen women suffer a lot in work places, be passed over for promotions, raises they SO DESERVED. Many male Presidents have screwed up America, especially bush...let a woman lead and prove herself!!! Or, is America afraid to give a WOMAN a chance???

How and why did the Democrats come up with proportional distribution of delegates on top of the super delegates? The plan, I'm sure was to allow Obama to get enough delegates to make it look "fair" to the black Democrats, since the converntional wisdom was that Hillary would win it all by Super Tuesday. Now it is such a mess that the super delegates will have to decide. In other words, the will of the people could be overturned. Nice going Democrats. And we want this bunbling group of elitists running the country? Let the choas reign so we can elect the one adult in the presidential race - John McCain.

Goldenoldie -
"She can still beat McCain. Obama can't--becuase of the hypocrisy--people sense this at a very basic level:"

Apparently you don't sense hypocrisy at any level. You really think that Billary is going to take care of you, you poor old thing.

Sorry to inform you that Soc. Security is going going gone, and Medicare/Medicaid isn't covering 1/2 of what it used to. But your precious Billary is going to give you some erroneous sense of comfort?

OK

HRC has never been under sniper fire. The fact that she repeated the story, time and time again, that her staff allowed her to repeat the story, time and time again...It's unnerving...

Women have been oppressed, both overtly and subtely, for generations. Now Obama and his supporters continue to practice this oppression. Neither Clinton nor Obama earns enough delegates to have a legitimate win, at this point.

Those who call for Hillary to quit are fearful that their anti-white and anti-american Obama will loose; instead of his boast 'to know me is to love me', voters will find 'to know Obama is to denounce him'.

My advice to these so-called elders and Obama's supporters is to avoid disfranchising the voters or stop listening to their voice. It will be the voters who will decide who will become the president!

If Hillary does not have a fair chance at this campaign or if the elders try to change the rules in the middle of this competition like Pelosi did by pressuring the superdelegates to make their vote becoming an automatic vote tying to pledged delegates vs. applying the current rule of ‘use independent judgment’ then Obama’s win is not legitimate!

The DNC is already giving Michigan and Florida to McCain by disfranchising the voters of those two states! DNC is becoming an un-democratic party!

Perhaps, the Clinton's supporters should be the ones who ask for Obama's withdraw from the race because there is no place for a US presidential candidate, let alone a US president, an anti-white, anti-american, a belief of the Black liberation theology.

I seek no comfort from anybody. Unlike Obama supporters, I seek no messiah.
I seek a candidate.
I seek someone who campaigns as an adult with adults (i.e. people who read more than they watch television or play with their bumblepuppets).
I seek a candidate I can persuade to renew committment to the social security lock box. But I'm less worried about myself.
I'm worried about this republic.
I'm worried about the planet.
And at this point I am CONVINCED that the only thing the Obamas care about is their image and their ill-gotten gains.

"I seek no comfort from anybody. Unlike Obama supporters, I seek no messiah.
I seek a candidate.
I seek someone who campaigns as an adult with adults (i.e. people who read more than they watch television or play with their bumblepuppets)."

Posted by: golden oldie | March 30, 2008 3:05 PM

O.K. Dad. Whatever you say!

I guess it never occured to this fellow that some of us are middle aged, college educated, average Americans who actually read newpapers. Hey old dude, we get it. You don't like change. You like the status quo ante. "The state of things as it was before."

STORY BEHIND THE CLINTON MYTH

One big fact has largely been lost in the recent coverage of the Democratic presidential race: Hillary Rodham Clinton has virtually no chance of winning.

Her own campaign acknowledges there is no way that she will finish ahead in pledged delegates. That means the only way she wins is if Democratic super delegates are ready to risk a backlash of historic proportions from the party's most reliable constituency.

Unless Clinton is able to at least win the primary popular vote -- which also would take nothing less than an electoral miracle -- and use that achievement to pressure super delegates, she has only one scenario for victory. An African-American opponent and his backers would be told that, even though he won the contest with voters, the prize is going to someone else.

People who think that scenario is even remotely likely are living on another planet.

As it happens, many people inside Clinton's campaign live right here on Earth. One important Clinton adviser estimated to Politico privately that she has no more than a 10 percent chance of winning her race against Barack Obama, an appraisal that was echoed by other operatives.

In other words: The notion of the Democratic contest being a dramatic cliffhanger is a game of make-believe.

Politico's top editors draw on their experience at the nation's largest news organizations to pull back the curtain on coverage decisions and the media mindset.

Journalists have become partners with the Clinton campaign in pretending that the contest is closer than it really is. Most coverage breathlessly portrays the race as a down-to-the-wire sprint between two well-matched candidates, one only slightly better situated than the other to win in August at the national convention in Denver.

One reason is fear of embarrassment. In its zeal to avoid predictive reporting of the sort that embarrassed journalists in New Hampshire, the media -- including Politico -- have tended to avoid zeroing in on the tough math Clinton faces.

Avoiding predictions based on polls even before voters cast their ballots is wise policy. But that's not the same as drawing sober and well-grounded conclusions about the current state of a race after millions of voters have registered their preferences.

The antidote to last winter's flawed predictions is not to promote a misleading narrative based on the desired but unlikely story line of one candidate.

There are other forces also working to preserve the notion of a contest that is still up for grabs.

One important, if subliminal, reason is self-interest. Reporters and editors love a close race -- it's more fun and it's good for business.

The media are also enamored of the almost mystical ability of the Clintons to work their way out of tight jams, as they have done for 16 years at the national level. That explains why some reporters are inclined to believe the Clinton campaign when it talks about how she's going to win on the third ballot at the Democratic National Convention in August.

That's certainly possible -- and, to be clear, we'd love to see the race last that long -- but it's folly to write about this as if it is likely.

It's also hard to overstate the role the talented Clinton camp plays in shaping the campaign narrative, first by subtly lowering the bar for the performance necessary to remain in the race, and then by keeping the focus on Obama's relationships with a political fixer and a controversial pastor in Illinois.

But even some of Clinton's own advisers now concede that she cannot win unless Obama is hit by a political meteor. Something that merely undermines him won't be enough. It would have to be some development that essentially disqualifies him.

Simple number-crunching has shown the long odds against Clinton for some time.

In the latest Associated Press delegate count, Obama leads with 1,406 pledged delegates to Clinton's 1,249. Obama's lead is likely to grow, as it did with county conventions last weekend in Iowa, as later rounds of delegates are apportioned from caucuses he has already won.

The Democratic Party has 794 super delegates, the party insiders who get to vote on the nomination in addition to the delegates chosen by voters.
According to Politico's latest tally, Clinton has 250 and Obama has 212.
That means 261 are uncommitted, and 71 have yet to be named.

An analysis by Politico's Avi Zenilman shows that Clinton's lead in super delegates has shrunk by about 60 in the past month. And it found Clinton is roughly tied among House members, senators and governors -- the party's most powerful elite.

Clinton had not announced a new super delegate commitment since the March 4 primaries, until the drought was broken recently by Rep. John P. Murtha
(D-Pa.) and West Virginia committeeman Pat Maroney.

Clintonistas continue to talk tough. Phil Singer, the Clinton campaign's deputy communications director, told reporters on a conference call Friday that the Obama campaign "is in hot water" and is "seeing the ground shift away from them."

Mark Penn, the campaign's chief strategist, maintained that it's still "a hard-fought race between two potential nominees" and that other factors could come into play at the convention besides the latest delegate tally -- "the popular vote, who will have won more delegates from primaries [as opposed to caucuses], who will be the stronger candidate against McCain."

But let's assume a best-case scenario for Clinton, one where she wins every remaining contest with 60 percent of the vote (an unlikely outcome since she has hit that level in only three states so far -- her home state of New York, Rhode Island and Arkansas).

Even then, she would still be behind Obama in delegates.

There are 566 pledged delegates up for grabs in upcoming contests. Those delegates come from Pennsylvania (158), Guam (4) North Carolina (115), Indiana (72), West Virginia (28), Kentucky (51), Oregon (52), Puerto Rico (55), Montana (16) and South Dakota (15).

If Clinton won 60 percent of those delegates, she would get 340 delegates to Obama's 226. Under that scenario -- and without revote in Michigan and Florida -- Obama would still lead in delegates by 1,632 to 1,589.

The only remote possibility of a win in delegates would come if revote were held in Florida and Michigan -- which, again, would take a political miracle.
If Clinton won 60 percent of the delegates in both states, she would win 188 delegates and Obama would win 125. Clinton would then lead among pledged delegates, 1,777 to 1,757.

The other elephant in the room for Clinton is that Obama is almost certain to win North Carolina, with its high percentage of African-American voters, and also is seen as extremely strong in Oregon.

Harold Ickes, an icon of the Democratic Party who is Clinton's chief delegate strategist, points out that every previous forecast about this race has been faulty.

Asked about the Obama campaign's contention that it's mathematically impossible for Clinton to win, Ickes replied: "They can't count. At the end of it, even by the Obama campaign's prediction, neither candidate will have enough delegates to be nominated."

This is true, as a matter of math. But even the Clinton campaign's own best-case scenario has her finishing behind Obama when all the nominating contests are over.

"She will be close to him but certainly not equal to him in pledged delegates," a Clinton adviser said. "When you add the super delegates on top of it, I'll think she'll still be behind him somewhat in total delegates -- but very, very close."

The total gap is likely to be 75 to 110, the adviser said.

That means Clinton would need either some of those pledged delegates to switch their support -- which technically they can do, though it would be unlikely -- or for the white-dominated group of super delegates to join forces with her to topple Obama.

To foster doubt about Obama, Clinton supporters are using a whisper and pressure campaign to make an 11th-hour argument to party insiders that he would be a weak candidate in November despite his superior standing at the moment.

"All she has left is the electability argument," a Democratic official said.
"It's all wrapped around: Is there something that makes him ultimately unelectable?"

But the audience for that argument, the super delegates, will not easily overturn the will of the party's voters. And in fact, a number of heavyweight Democrats are looking at the landscape and laying the groundwork to dissuade Clinton from trying to overturn the will of the party rank and file.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who has not endorsed either candidate, appears to be among them. She told Bloomberg Television that super delegates should "respect for what has been said by the people." And she told ABC's "This Week" that it would be "harmful to the Democratic Party" if super delegates overturn the outcome of elections.

A Democratic strategist said that given the unlikelihood of prevailing any other way, Clinton now must "scare" super delegates "who basically just want to win."

The strategist said Clinton aides are now relying heavily on the controversy over Obama's retiring minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, to sow new seeds of doubt.

"This issue is the first thing that's come along that I think is potentially fatal to his electability argument," the strategist said.

"They're looking ahead and saying: Is it possible this thing is just going to drip, drip, drip, drip -- more video? Where does that leave us if he's our presumptive nominee and he's limping into the convention and the Republicans are just ready to go on him, double-barreled?"

The strategist also said Clinton's agents are making more subtle pitches.

"I've heard people start to say: Have you looked at the vote in Ohio really carefully? See how that breaks down for him. What does that portend?" said the strategist. "Then they point to Pennsylvania: In electoral important battleground states, if he is essentially only carrying heavy African-American turnout in high-performing African-American districts and the Starbucks-sipping, Volvo-driving liberal elite, how does he carry a state like Pennsylvania?"

Her advisers say privately that the nominee will be clear by the end of June. At the same time, they recognize that the nominee probably is clear already.

What has to irk Clintons' aides is that they felt she might finally have him on the ropes, bruised badly by the Wright fight and wobbly in polls. But the bell rang long ago in the minds of too many voters.

Hillary has become a caricature of herself,blindly swinging in the air pretending to be sane. It's clear this pathological deceiver will continue to downgrade the Democrats. Hillary bring wide smiles to Republicans as they keep egging her and her ego on to a Democrat defeat.

“Too little and Too late”
Among a few analysts, the question is not who will win the 2008 Democratic nomination race but how badly the loser will be beaten. Taking into account the number of intricacies involved, it is difficult to develop a mathematical modeling to answer that question. However, through other approaches an attempt has been made.
Subject to errors and omissions, the former first lady HRC will be the overall winner in the ten (10) remaining contests. This win will be spearheaded by her strong loyal supporters; sympathizers; those who wish to stop Senator Obama’s accession to the general election; and a number of Republicans who recently converted to Democrats in order to propel the feud between the two Democratic candidates. She will suffer losses in NC and Oregon, but overall she will win by a net margin of 35 pledged delegates.
Senator Obama will attain the Democratic Party nomination with a net margin of two (2) percent in combined pledged and super delegates. The State Oregon will play a historical role of providing Senator Obama with the “Presumptive Democratic Party Nominee” title on May 20, 2008. HRC has a one (1) percent probability of becoming a Choice. She will need to win 371 or 2 of 3 (66%) of the remaining 566 pledged delegates. Although the race appears to be very tight, the size of Senator Obama’s bank of pledged delegates is too large to be overcome. HRC recent surge in campaign efforts is commendable, but unfortunately its results would be too little and too late to change the course of this race.

HILLARY'S POOR JUDGMENT LEAVES AMERICANS FOOTING THE BILL:

THE WAR IN IRAQ IS HAVING SERIOUS NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON OUR ECONOMY and those who voted for the war (i.e. hillary) should be to blame, in part, for the state of the US economy.

Look how the WAR IN IRAQ is affecting the US economy...

$3,000,000,000… 3 billion dollars PER WEEK! That is the amount America is paying for the Iraq War PER WEEK, money that should have been used here, at home.

Add to this:

Interest. We are financing the war with borrowed money (e.g. treasuries) that carries interest; so in actuality, the war is costing the United States MORE THAN 3 billion dollars PER WEEK.

Higher oil and energy prices. Instability in Iraq is adding roughly 30 dollars per barrel as a premium.

High oil prices mean high utility bills. Due to high oil prices, demand shifts to other sources of energy - gas, coal, etc. - and greater demand will raise the equilibrium price of all sources of energy -- Can you say high energy bills?

Higher oil prices (a raw material used in the production of many goods, fertilizers, gasoline, diesel, plastics, etc.) mean higher prices of goods and services -- Can you say INFLATION?

Higher oil prices mean a higher trade deficit because most of our oil comes from foreign sources. A higher trade deficit means more money is leaving the country than is coming into the country -- Can you say Goodbye money!

Our dollar is weak and getting weaker. Since we have a trade deficit and is growing in large part to the rising cost of imported oil, the value of goods and services we import exceeds the value of goods we export. You know that foreign car you're thinking of buying or the computer you're using, or that trip abroad you've been thinking of taking....well, guess what? It is going to cost more, Ceteris Peribus, because the dollar is weak, weak, weak.

Lastly, how do you think the world views our country since the argument was made for war? The evidence was weak and circumstantial, yet we rushed into war with Iraq thanks to hillary’s authorization.