by Rick Pearson
WASHINGTON — Sen. Hillary Clinton is attributing last night’s primary victories in three-out-of-four states that held contests last night to John McCain, and a newfound focus by voters on the fall race now that the Republican nominee has been determined.
The New York Democrat, doing the rounds of TV talk shows to demonstrate that rumors of her political demise were greatly exaggerated, acknowledged the “dream ticket” of her and rival Barack Obama that has been touted by some Democrats may be “where this is headed.” But she also said such talk was “premature” and added that the answer will be determined by who gets the nomination and she intends to come out on top.
Speaking on NBC’s “Today Show,” Clinton, in part, credited the success of McCain, a veteran Arizona senator, in getting enough delegates to get the Republican nomination with putting a greater spotlight on the choice that Democrats have to make.
“I think that voters are finally focused on who they think would be the best commander in chief and who would be the best president to turn the economy around,” she said.
“I think that’s what this (fall) election is going to be about and that’s what we have to go in and contest with Sen. McCain about. I really think now that Sen. McCain is clearly the nominee, Democratic votes are taking their decision very seriously and that works to my benefit.”
Clinton, like Obama, called McCain last night after he formally accumulated enough delegates to win the GOP nomination.
Clinton also contended that voters are raising new questions about Obama, a first term senator from Chicago, involving his relationship with friend and former fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko, who is standing trial in Chicago on federal corruption charges. She also said questions are being asked about whether Obama is dedicated to improving trade pacts with foreign countries after he initially had denied that one of his top advisers met with Canadian officials and then was forced to acknowledge it.
Though neither Obama or Clinton is expected to emerge with enough convention nominating delegates to outright gain the nomination, she said the evolving nature of the campaign and how the candidates are viewed are factors that unpledged superdelegates should reflect in deciding who represents the party on the national ticket.
Obama has maintained that despite the losses he suffered in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island in the popular vote on Tuesday night, he still maintains a virtually unchanged edge over Clinton in the delegate count.
“This campaign is evolving and questions are being raised,” she said. “New challenges are being put to my opponent. Superdelegates are supposed to take all that information on board and they’re supposed to be exercising the judgment that people would have exercised if this information and challenges had been available several months ago. That’s why we have Superdelegates.”
Clinton told MSNBC that “many Democrats” are hoping that Clinton and Obama join forces on the Democratic national ticket and that “there is a lot of interest” in the idea, but also said it was “premature for either of us to address it.”
She acknowledged to CBS that a Clinton-Obama ticket may be “where this is headed, but of course we have to decide who’s on the top of the ticket.”
“I think that the people of Ohio very clearly said it that it should be me,” she said.
As Clinton took an afternoon breather off the campaign trail to gear up for the resumption of campaigning in Pennsylvania, which holds its delegate sweepstakes on April 22, surrogates for her campaign criticized the Obama camps efforts to portray themselves as the well established frontrunner in hopes of gaining superdelegate strength.
Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana, which holds its primary May 6, said voters in his state have “got a right to be heard” and that some “Hoosier common sense” needed to be injected into the nomination fight.
Clinton advisor Harold Ickes told reporters, “This race is going to go right down to the end and what we’re asking is for those (superdelegates) who are uncommitted to stand by and wait how things turn out.”
Ickes also raised the specter that there is “too much as yet” unknown about Obama, while with Clinton, there’s “not another shoe in her closet to drop.”
Ickes also said that the Clintons would release their federal tax returns “on or around April 15” and accused the Obama campaign of trying to create a smokescreen in raising the tax return issue to avoid discussing his relationship with Rezko.
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Comments
This is the direction I would love to see. In-fighting will do us no good. We can't allow the republicans to run this country into the ground, so direct the rhetoric towards them
Posted by: bill "hussein" r. | March 5, 2008 3:52 PM
I've been saying all along that I will vote for either Clinton or Obama, whichever one ends up with the nomination. Now, I'm not so sure. She's attempting to throw under the bus the person who might be her party's candidate in the fall. She sounds more and more as if she will support McCain if she's not the nominee. This has got to stop or I may be sitting this one out because I will not vote Republican ever again, not even for one who calls herself a Democrat.
Posted by: Cheryl | March 5, 2008 4:00 PM
Clinton thanks McCain for focusing Democrats...on what a horrible choice she is.
McCain thanks Clinton for scaring Democrats into voting for him.
No Obama on the ticket and I'm voting McCain.
Otherwise I'm not forgiving Hillary for the underhanded campaign she's run. Hillary has showed her true colors the last couple of weeks and the only way I would consider voting Democrat is if Barack is involved in the administration.
Mind you, a scant two years ago I gave Hillary the maximun allowed for Hillary's Senate re-election campaign. I've even had dinner with her and I gotta tell you, I'm so disappointed with the way she has conducted herself.
Obama 2008
Posted by: Logic Prisoner | March 5, 2008 4:03 PM
Actually I think it's Hillary that's officially endorsed McCain over Obama, so I can't see how see can suck up to him now and hope she gets on his ticket as VP.
Posted by: Irishspacemonk | March 5, 2008 4:09 PM
I don't have a problem with Hillary continuing to fight for the nomination. She is not going to win, and all the sharp elbows in the primary will toughen up Obama for the general. They should both take as high of a road as possible, but politics is a bloodsport. I do have a problem when it looks like candidates or their surrogates start engaging in the politics personal destruction.
In the meantime, we have a nation that is watching with great interest the democratic nomination. This is an amazing branding opportunity for both candidates to start selling the Democratic Party to a nation that is looking for an alternative to 8 years of Bush/McCain.
Meanwhile, McCain has locked up the nomination, and will retire his crazy old butt to a ranch somewhere in Arizona for the next 4 months, while all eyes are glued on the Democratic party, becoming more and more comfortable with the idea of an African American or woman President.
Posted by: John E | March 5, 2008 4:13 PM
I detect a major smokescreen in the CLinton camp..constantly going on the offensive...
WHY NOT REVEAL THE CLINTONS' TAX RETURNS NOW IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE?
More of the same old deception and politics.
Posted by: kathleen thurka | March 5, 2008 4:13 PM
"SENATOR CLINTON SPEAKS"
Walk this way, Talk this way, Walk this way, Vote this WAY!
Ken Mehlman isn't running the DNC. "JOHN MCCAIN" will "Stay the Course"
Ben Bernake gave his "BEST BUSH ECONOMICS 101" 7/6/06
"SWAMP ARCHIVES DON'T LIE!
Bernake spun everything "Inflation" NO BIG DEAL, "Recession" NOT TO WORRY; "Economic Growth" PRETTY SOLID. "Employment" NOT BAD. (posted by William Niekirk swamp)
Ken Mehlman isn't jamming the phone lines in Florida.
So Thank you Mr. McCain, by the way is it possible to ask the 'BOEHNER OR THE BLUNT' EXACTLY WHEN WILL THE IRAQI'S STAND UP?
Katherine Harris isn't the "SECRETARY OF STATE" in any state in the United States.
We won't bring up Vicki!
We won't bring up "LOST EMAILS"
We won't bring up "FIRING OF THE PROSECUTORS" for political "Illegal Immigration legislation"
We won't bring up "HOMELAND SECURITY" phony achievements.
We won't bring up Vicki!
We promise we won't bring up Bectel, AT&T, Pacific Life and of course AT&T former CEO now head of Fannie MAE who is in the 4.2 billion dollar tank!
We won't bring up the National Cable Television Association deals across america.
We just want a clean election with 'TRUTHS" and not False Prophecies of GOP HOPE!
Posted by: Roger Morris | March 5, 2008 4:15 PM
Obama and Clinton policies will be almost identical, whichever one of them is elected. So these fools who say they'll vote for McCain Clinton beats Obama, they'd rather have 4 more years of Bush policies that have so destroyed our country? I don't see the logic in that.
Posted by: Paul | March 5, 2008 4:48 PM
Billary - where are you going? Nowhere. McCain v. Obama shows Obama ahead
McCain v. Billary shows a dead heat. Hmmm....... playing the 'fear card' helps in the primary, but that's the "Karl Rove" playbook. So where is all this heading? With the Democratic Convention being a nightmare, & the GOP sitting pretty.
So much for the "I'm honored to share the stage with Barak" moment. What a schizo . I love how Joe Paycheck really thinks that Billary has any interest in them whatsoever. She has so much in common with the blue-collar worker - just look at her income.... oops.
Posted by: karl | March 5, 2008 4:50 PM
Hillary holds the Democratic Party hostage.
Although it is mathematically impossible for her to win the delegate count …She has proven that negative Rovian tactics work and that she is willing to continue destroying the front runner of her own Party if she is not elected.
I’m sure McCain and company appreciate having an ally in the their battle against Barack Obama.
Posted by: brdieR | March 5, 2008 4:51 PM
I'm an Obama supporter who will vote for the Democratic nominee - whomever he or she is.
Unless that candidate does to the other something similar to what Bush and Karl Rove did to John McCain in South Carolina in 2000.
The whisper/smear campaign in 2000 implied McCain was unstable because of his time as a POW. Then the most reprehensible of all - spreading rumors that McCain fathered a black baby when in fact Sen. & Mrs. McCain were in the process of adopting a baby from Bangladesh.
John McCain has sold his honor & dignity to become president.
Posted by: Doug | March 5, 2008 5:30 PM
At first I could have voted for Hillary or Obama, not now. All I can see is Hillary as a back-stabber, nice to your face but do not turn your back. I think she fits perfectly in the Republican party.
Posted by: Janie S | March 5, 2008 5:37 PM
“I think that voters are finally focused..."
Hear that Iowa? Hear that NH?
You guys apparently slept through your nomination processes.
Hillary, keep talkin'. You're sounding more and more like the loser that you are.
Posted by: Bud McFarlin | March 5, 2008 5:54 PM
Hillary needs to thank Rush Limbaugh for urging Republicans to cross over in Texas and Ohio to vote for her. The undisguised motive: To keep the Democrats in chaos. And it worked. Some 35 percent of Republicans followed through, giving Hillary the win in Texas when all the polls showed her losing. The result: She and Bama will be attacking each other, spending millions, probably up to June or even the convention itself. Those who take Limbaugh lightly do so at their own peril. By the way, anyone hear from Air Amerika lately?
Posted by: Garfield | March 5, 2008 5:57 PM
Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama:
Dear Madam, and Sir,
A Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama ticket is what we want. And that is what we need to take back the Whitehouse. We want a smart, tough, idealistic, seasoned veteran of many battles fighting for the American people (Hillary Clinton). With a young, passionate, smart, open-minded, hard-working idealist fighting for the American people (Barrack Obama). The DREAM TEAM!
You are both fabulous candidates. And we, the American people are very fortunate to have each of you. Taking back the Whitehouse is critical for the American people, and the world at this time. And I think the American people have been saying loudly, and clearly that a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket is the best way to do this.
I think the American people have made it very clear that they feel Hillary Clinton is the one best able to lead the ticket against John McCain at this critical, and desperate time in America, and around the world. These dramatic comebacks are testament to Hillary Clinton's skill, and experience as a fighter for the American people. They are also a testament to the strong desire of the American people to have both of you fighting for the American people at this time of midnight in America.
Typical of the Clinton's is an uncanny ability to see and understand what the American people want. And then to try and get it for them. Even if they have to go through three political near death experiences to try and get it for the American people. This is classic Clinton's. They are the best I have ever seen.
We are desperate out here. Millions of us are suffering greatly. And tens of thousands of us are dying needlessly every year. Men, women, children, and babies. We need help! As Hillary Clinton said "It's not a game". We need the two of you together on our side fighting for us, and for the American dream for all. Not fighting against each other anymore.
It's time for you Senator Obama to join forces with Hillary Clinton as her running mate so that we can all focus our energies, and resources on taking back America for the American people.
Don't make me hurt you. :-)
Sincerely
Jacksmith...
Posted by: jacksmith | March 5, 2008 6:00 PM
Are you all going to keep watching national polls? Have you dunces forgotten that the general elections are state by state? BOb will, if he wins the nomination, lock down the Black voters who the Dems. get anyway while losing more Latino votes.
Posted by: whatnow | March 5, 2008 6:36 PM
I've been saying all along that I will vote for either Clinton or Obama, whichever one ends up with the nomination. Now, I'm not so sure. She's attempting to throw under the bus the person who might be her party's candidate in the fall. She sounds more and more as if she will support McCain if she's not the nominee. This has got to stop or I may be sitting this one out because I will not vote Republican ever again, not even for one who calls herself a Democrat.
Posted by: Cheryl | March 5, 2008 4:00 PM
Cheryl your not alone, The chorus is growing. Hillary and the DNC better watch out. The way she's conducting herself is losing her allot of respect if not votes in the general election.
Posted by: SAM X | March 5, 2008 6:40 PM
I have been reading some articles regarding Senator Clinton and a few OBAMAANIACS or is it OBAMAIDIOTS whatever you call yourselves stateing that if Obama does not win primary you will vote for John Wannabe Rambo McCain
If that's the case then who needs you go join the otherside......OBAMA LOSERS!!!!
GO HILLARY 08 ALL THE WAY
BRING THE CLINTON YEARS BACK!!!!!!!
Posted by: Edward Marini | March 5, 2008 6:44 PM
I agree with Logic Prisoner. What poor HIllary doesn't understand, ostensibly because of defective ego functioning, is that she prevailed with as much lead as she did because of Republican crossover votes for her. This was a HUGE thing in Ohio, where even the Secretary of State acknowledged that Rush Limbaugh's comments (that Republicans should vote for Clinton so that she will lose in November) were taken to heart by MANY Republicans who did exactly that. In one heavily-populated county, e.g., there were 14,000+ registered Democrats, 13,000 registered Republicans, but they went through 33,000 Democratic ballots. go figure. Looks like a blast from the past: same old political shenanigans. Don't take my word for it, just google "republicans crossover in Ohio Rush LImbaugh) etc.
Posted by: Lori | March 5, 2008 7:05 PM
It is mathematically impossible for Obama to win the nomination with pledged delegates alone.
Same with Clinton
Superdelegates can change with the wind so basically it IS mathematically possible for either of them to win. Get over it.
Posted by: Rizzo | March 5, 2008 7:17 PM
Hillary Clinton makes me sick. I've never seen someone who possesses so much of this sense of entitlement; and then, much to her horror, it's not "given" to her.
Her arrogance is unsurmountable insofar as suggesting that Obama join her on HER ticket (via what Ohio voters have said).
She should have left Bill behind at the White House when he disgraced our country and their marriage with his infidelities and his definitions of what "is" is.
Obviously, this was the bigger dream and she needed him to attempt to aid her.
Bill, keep campaigning like you did in South Carolina! What a disgrace.
By the way, who is going to pay for a re-do in Florida and Michigan? Spoiled sport -- cheat the rules, then demand a redo.
Smame. Shame.
Posted by: Keely | March 5, 2008 7:32 PM
I believe Rezko and the Canadian memo on NAFTA were key issues that changed the race over the weekend. While Hillary was moaning about "slanted coverage," the media was lashing Obama with a vengeance.
It should be especially curious to rational Americans how higher ups in Canada called a private meeting, probably with both campaigns, but produced a timely leak of one "conversation" just days before the primary. Clearly, if they called Obama's economic advisor in for a meeting, they surely did the same with Clinton’s. This raises two issues, the accuracy of the memo writer's understanding and the absence of the Clinton memo. Is there any doubt that behind closed doors she would have been a lot kinder about a signature achievement of Bill's administration? This also suggests the kind of interference in US elections and breech of diplomatic trust that should produce common outrage among all Americans.
In regard to Rezko, whose trial coincidentally began on Monday, the same nationally syndicated, right wing columnist who outted a CIA agent, just happened to run a story Monday linking Obama to the trial and "Tony the Fixer," as he called him. The clear indication was that Obama would be knee deep in a Whitewater like scandal. To the contrary, the Chicago Tribune, the local Republican rag that has followed this story from day one, has written that Obama's name will make no more than a cameo appearance due to having received campaign contributions. This columnist, who gets major coverage nationwide in the press and on television, either did a very poor job of investigation or intentionally overstated what he found out. According to the Tribune stories Rezko was a major player in Chicago real estate and political circles for more than 20 years. He was a prominent fundraiser for Republicans, including George Bush and the RNC, not just Democrats like Obama. The only thing that is clearly known is that Obama relied on an old friend who happened to be a wealthy restaurant owner and real estate mogul who he had known since he finished college.
I find it amusing that Hillary's idea of press bias is "being asked the first question," when the press has been very kind regarding the indiscretions of the Clinton's and her "35 years of experience. If she manages to pull this one out, John McCain will not be so kind. But just as coached do in a basketball game, you complain loud enough to the officials, so the next questionable call goes your way.
Posted by: Rick | March 5, 2008 8:25 PM
Today is a happy day!
Hillary supporters are proud of yesterday's primary outcomes. Hillary is tireless working to keep our country safe from unknown entities.
Hillary is exposing the country to facts that some have been repressing about Obama's inherent character flaws. Obama cannot be President because he is dishonest man. It is Hillary’s prerogative and her duty to the American people to point out Obama’s participation in crime or his affiliations with criminals and his constant stream of lies. The people must accept the truth.
Refer to the Chicago Tribune for gavel-to-gavel coverage of the Rezko trial, to understand the type of people Obama has surrounded himself.
Why does other television and print media have no thorough coverage of the trial?
The Media says Obama is staying above the fray. The Media harps that Hillary is running a dirty campaign. Because the truth is negative does not mean the person exposing the truth has negative character. Will the media every get it right?
Obama has insulted Hillary many times. Obama said (or his surrogates)that Hillary is a racist, a corrupt Washington insider, untrustworthy, divisive, that his voters would never vote for Hillary but Hillary’s voters would vote for him (don’t hold your breath), she is “alright” likeable, and has spoken or implied many other insults during this race.
The thought that Obama would be mature enough to run for President in eight years is no longer a viable option because of his obvious deceptions to the citizens of our country.
Thanks to the people of Ohio, Texas, and Rhode Island who made the right decision and voted for Hillary. Now we must persuade the peoples of the State primaries to come to vote for Hillary.
Let us continue to support Hillary in any way we can. Go to Hillary.com and make a donation, make phone calls or in other ways that are on her website.
Today is a happy day.
We must continue to support Hillary if we want her to be out next President.
Posted by: Karen Poole | March 5, 2008 8:40 PM
Karen,
Do you remember how to add? Delegates?
Posted by: Keely | March 5, 2008 9:23 PM
Today is a happy day.
We must continue to support Hillary if we want her to be out next President.
Posted by: Karen Poole | March 5, 2008 8:40 PM
Today is a sad day Karen. Very sad.
Posted by: Hillary's Death March | March 5, 2008 10:23 PM
Below I have rewritten the quick draw competition version of the Chris Weigant speech (follow this link for the original version of the speech)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/how-obama-c...
THE TACTICAL WINNING SPEECH
The Candidate who first makes this speech wins the the unity and undecided voters of the Democratic party and with this middle ground the Democratic nomination for President.
"I would like to address the people in the Democratic Party for a moment.
Our party is now pretty equally divided between myself and Senator (Obama/Clinton). The race is about tied. We are obviously the two strongest candidates this party has to offer to win the White House in 2008. We both have our relative strengths, and much of the electorate is genuinely conflicted over who to select in the voting booth. Some say this is fracturing our party, but I don't believe that is true. The Republican Party is divided because of antipathy among their different factions -- but I'm proud to say that our party is conflicted over who is the best between two very good choices.
So I would like to take this opportunity to offer Senator (Obama/Clinton). the Vice Presidential spot on the Democratic ticket, should I be nominated for President. Should they be nominated, and should they offer the same to me, I am publicly saying I would accept that as well. I think both of us should get behind the idea of a 'dream ticket' right here on this stage. I challenge my opponent to do the same."
Cue Instant pandemonium! Among loud cheers and a few groans from supporters of the candidate that did not make the speech.
I wonder if Pelossi, Howard Dean, Chris Redfern, George Stephanopoulos and the growing number of other Democrats are mediating how the deal can be done? A joint non aggresion pact of not putting out tactical version of the Chris Weigant speech instead to put out this strategic version of the speech.
THE STRATEGIC WINNING SPEECH
This version of the speech leaves the contest open but runs it without internecine war and unites the whole party
"We would like instead to address the people in the Democratic Party for a moment.
Our party is now pretty equally divided between ourselves. The race is about tied. We are obviously the two strongest candidates this party has to offer to win the White House in 2008. We both have our relative strengths, and much of the electorate is genuinely conflicted over who to select in the voting booth. Some say this is fracturing our party, but we don't believe that is true. The Republican Party is divided because of antipathy among their different factions -- but we are proud to say that our party is conflicted over who is the best between two very good choices.
So we would like to take this opportunity to offer each other the Vice Presidential spot on the Democratic ticket, should we be nominated by the party for President. Should the other be nominated, and should they offer the same to me, We are publicly saying we would accept that as well. We think both of us should get behind the idea of a 'dream ticket' right here on this stage. We challenge our party to do the same."
Cue very long standing ovation
The choice is there for the candidates to take.
Posted by: walker | March 5, 2008 10:35 PM
If Hillary is on the ticket in any way/shape/form I vote for McCain!!!
Posted by: Reality | March 5, 2008 10:47 PM
Karen what is it with you guys and the fear card? Do the dems even have a party anymore? Or is it just two republican parties. I think this illistrates just how desperate the clinton campaign really is. I think that they can do math and they see the writing on the wall. The fact of the matter is, she has to win 60% of the rest of the delegates left. She has only had a 20% victory in two states. How many has Obama had? 16, that's right eleven states have given Obama a victory of 20% or more. I think that is more victories than Clinton has altogether.
You are obviously a Clinton insider or something of that nature because not only are you making up lies about Obama like that rest of them. But you are begging for more money so you can try to make 50% of what he get from everyday Americans.
If us dems want someone who can win the national election not just tear down our democratic party mate. I would vote for Obama, I already did.
Posted by: Adam | March 5, 2008 11:34 PM
If Hillary is on the ticket in any way/shape/form I vote for McCain!!!
Posted by: Reality | March 5, 2008 10:47 PM
Good. McCain will need your vote. War supporters like you should be campaigning for him now. Don't wait...go campaign for war.
Posted by: bill "hussein" r. | March 6, 2008 7:32 AM
If Hillary is on the ticket in any way/shape/form I vote for McCain!!!
Posted by: Reality | March 5, 2008 10:47 PM
Good. McCain will need your vote. War supporters like you should be campaigning for him now. Don't wait...go campaign for war.
Posted by: bill "hussein" r. | March 6, 2008 7:32 AM
Despite McCains 100year war comment, he was opposed to the war even though he eventually stood by The Commander & Chimp. McCain has a certain amount of knee jerk hyper-patriotism. Gee I wonder why??? I guess five years in a North Vietnamese prison camp will do that to ya. Throw in a couple broken arms and an Irish temper well...ya get the picture.
That said mcCain has always been able to work across the isle in a way that George Bush never could. He is willing to tackle the immigration issue much to the disdain of his own party. While I don't agree with McCain on some of the war issues I do think he has some redeeming quallities. I guess what I'm saying is that I believe the DNC is well aware of the problems this Hillary Clinton "the fighter" thing. A scorched earth policy is not in the long run the best idea a democratic candidate ever had. Though it worked the other day guaranteed it will drive a large amount of the Obama supporters to at least consider the republican candidate.
Given that McCain is seen as a patriot I wouldn't make light of the damage that Hillarys campaign is doing not only to her own reputation but to the party as a whole. I'm personally done with her, and if you want to lump me in as some sort of traitor, bare in mind I contributed to Hillary's campaign. That should tell you something about the level of disappointment with the way she is conducting herself.
Obama 2008.
Posted by: Logic Prisoner | March 6, 2008 8:02 AM
Given that McCain is seen as a patriot
Posted by: Logic Prisoner | March 6, 2008 8:02 AM
I have to say Logic that I find it funny who is seen as a patriot and who isn't. With the swiftboating of Kerry, it seems that being a vet isn't enough.
Posted by: bill "hussein" r. | March 6, 2008 8:49 AM
Garfield:
I listen to Air America every day - channel 167 on XM Radio.
Posted by: BobinATL | March 6, 2008 8:51 AM
Hey, Hillary, Rezko is a minor as compared with your business from the ninetees. For now, where is your most recent Income Tax Return?
Posted by: Gene | March 6, 2008 10:47 AM
Hillary Clinton has put herself above the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Denise | March 6, 2008 10:52 AM
Given that McCain is seen as a patriot
Posted by: Logic Prisoner | March 6, 2008 8:02 AM
I have to say Logic that I find it funny who is seen as a patriot and who isn't. With the swiftboating of Kerry, it seems that being a vet isn't enough.
Posted by: bill "hussein" r. | March 6, 2008 8:49 AM
You definitely have a point there Bill. I'll never figure out how tht one worked and also how Kerry was unable to exploit the republicans shameless attacks to his own asvantage. I think that's a lesson Barack would do well to learn from. I believe you'll see him bring up allot of stuff that Hillary and Bill would like to remain under the rug so to speak. The upside of all this contentiousness is the democrats dominating the news cycle. McCain will try to reintroduce himself to the American public to vombat that. VP etc...
Posted by: Logic Prisoner | March 6, 2008 11:20 AM
of course she should thank mccain for wrapping up the repub nomination early - without that she had no way of getting so many crossover votes
HERE IS THE MATH FOR HILLARY'S PATH
the hillarrite strategy is all too clear :
get the delegates by cheating to get the florida and michigan and superdelegates counted inappropriately
and/or
have republicans and racists decide the democratic nomination by crossover voting in the remaining states
the math is clear, there is no other path for hillary to come close to 2025 delegates
most likely she will do both
make NO mistake - there is NO way hillary can even come close in MS without racists and republican crossover votes and she daamnn well knows it
but even if she cannot get quite enough racists to crossover and vote for her, she can still play the cheating card
only one question remains
do democrats want their nominee chosen by racists, cheaters and republicans ???
is that what tina fey and rosie o'donnell and rosanne barr want for America ?
do these gals really want racists, cheaters and republicans like limbaugh to decide the democratic presidential nomination ?
my guess is, they have no problem with this at all
in fact, they are HOPING for exactly that to happen
because there is NO other way to deny Obama the nomination
die-hard hillarrites (like ms fey ) have no qualms about playing by such "bbittch" rules - any hillary supporter by definition has no qualms at all with getting back to the politics of the past by any means necessary
Posted by: the math for hillary's path | March 6, 2008 1:19 PM
I am not an Obama supporter. He is nothing but a "paper tiger" and he will break your hearts, in the end. However, he will still be better then McCain. How could any decent, rational thinking American vote for McCain who will give us 4 more years of the same drek we have had the last 8 years. How much further into debt do you want to see this country? How much lower do you want to see our economy go? How much worse do you want our reputation suffer? How much more destroyed do you want our planet to get? Threatening to vote for McCain just because your candidate loses is childish and irresponsible. And if it wouldn't affect my life I'd say "go ahead". However, the future of the country and planet are at state and like it or not, I'm part of it. 4 more years of ANY Republican would be disasterous. DON'T DO IT!!
Posted by: The Bubba | March 6, 2008 4:11 PM
I'd definitely vote for someone who is willing to lead the fight against terrorism and to defend this country and that person is Senator John McCain.
Posted by: Bob | March 6, 2008 5:07 PM
I see comments about no more shoes to drop regarding Billary. If you believe that you have not kept up with the news regarding some of the shenanigans that are happening with Bill's foundation (kickbacks from Canadian oil/gas tycoon, being paid in options that quadruple in price before becoming worthless, where did she get $5M to loan to her campaing, the list will go on)
For those of you that want 8 more years of Billary, I did not think that having 8 years of bickering, conspiracies, and being asked the definition of "is" was all that great. I think it was distracting to important things such as trying to diffuse the dot com bust, solving social security, tracking down terrorists that want to wipe us out. I do not want another 8 years of a distracted President, we have had enough. I cannot vote for Hillary, I will vote for either Barack or McCain.
Posted by: Bob | March 6, 2008 5:17 PM
The only statistic anyone needs to know is "14-1" - that is the number of states where Obama won by 60% or more of the vote. The only state Clinton got more than 60% of the vote thus far is Arkansas (what a surprise!).
This thing is over. The only way she can win is if she undermines the system and reneges on the deal with Michigan and Florida and bribes the Superdelegates to ignore the pledged delegates and the popular vote.
If the Superdelegates allow this to happen I will never vote for a Democrat again. That violates everything the Democrats stand for. It is time for the Democratic leaders to step in and force her out of this race so we can focus on getting this country back on track.
Remember, it's hard for someone to be disgruntled when their candidate loses the popular vote, loses the majority of states, loses the majority of pledged delegates and then subsequently loses the nomination. However, if the person leading all of those catagories loses the nomination, people will be so digruntled that I believe it is likely the Democratic party will never recover.
Posted by: Amabo | March 6, 2008 6:02 PM
If I have the choice of McCain or Obama in November, I will be voting FOR someone for the first time in my life.
If it's Hillary against McCain, I will go through my every-four-year routine of voting AGAINST someone.
If the Democratic nomination can be stolen, Swillary will steal it.
Posted by: Gail | March 6, 2008 8:44 PM
Everyone should beware of Hilary Clinton. I am old enough to remember that she was a "Goldwater Girl". Barry Goldwater was a Republican candidate for President years ago. He was a hawk. He lost thank heaven. She still thinks like a Republican and her and John McCain have a voting record that is practically identical. They are the best of friends and have made many trips to the Middle East together. A vote for her is a Republican vote, and a vote for McCain is a Republican vote. Obama is the only choice, and the only way to save this country from total financial catastrophe. Many economic and oil analysts are predicting depression, not recession. Think carefully about your vote.
Posted by: Carolyn Damon | March 8, 2008 11:08 AM