by Mark Silva
A lot of Democrats are so wed to their choice for president that they’d sooner switch parties than fight for their candidate’s rival, according to a new Gallup Poll today – which you first read about here in the Swamp courtesy of Gallup’s Frank Newport yesterday.
Twenty-eight percent of the Democrats backing Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York tell Gallup’s pollsters that they would vote for Republican Sen. John McCain over Democratic Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois. And 19 percent of Obama’s backers say they would vote for McCain before voting for Clinton.
This is a die-hard bunch of Clintonites, many of these Democrats. McCain would welcome them -- and the Obama backers too
Of course, that’s what they say now – in the heat of a Democratic campaign that has only increased in intensity as the two, Obama and Clinton, have entered a virtual deadlock which may only be broken by the intervention of the party’s “super-delegates. This is what voters were telling Gallup’s pollsters in days of daily tracking polls compiled between March 7 and March 22 – with responses drawn from a pretty big sample over that time.
Come November, with Democrats motivated to reclaim the White House and Democrats turning out in record numbers in this year’s primaries, the numbers may tell a different story.
Yet Republicans will find in these numbers great cheer for McCain’s cause: Further proof that the senator from Arizona cannot only build a base of support within his own party in November, but also cross over and appeal to a significant share of Democrats – those “Reagan Democrats,’’ as McCain, who stood by the side of Nancy Reagan for her endorsement yesterday, likes to call them.
Newport, editor-in-chief of the Gallup Poll spoke about all this with reporters on Monday, as reported here in the Swamp, and he elaborates on the issue in a <strong>Gallup report today.
“As would be expected, almost all Democratic voters who say they support Obama for their party's nomination also say they would vote for him in a general election match-up against McCain,’’ Newport reports. “But only 59 percent of Democratic voters who support Clinton say they would vote for Obama against McCain, while 28 percent say they would vote for the Republican McCain.
“This suggests that some Clinton supporters are so strongly opposed to Obama (or so loyal to Clinton) that they would go so far as to vote for the "other" party's candidate next November if Obama is the Democratic nominee,’’ Newport notes. “The results follow the same pattern, but not to quite the same extent, when the relationship between Democratic support and a general election matchup between Clinton and McCain is examined.
“The data suggest that the continuing and sometimes fractious Democratic nomination fight could have a negative impact for the Democratic Party in next November's election,’’ Newport reports.
“A not insignificant percentage of both Obama and Clinton supporters currently say they would vote for McCain if he ends up running against the candidate they do not support,’’ he writes.
. “It is unknown how many Democrats would actually carry through and vote for a Republican next fall if their preferred candidate does not become the Democratic nominee,’’ he adds. “The Democratic campaign is in the heat of battle at the moment, but by November, there will have been several months of attempts to build party unity around the eventual nominee -- and a focus on reasons why the Republican nominee needs to be defeated.
“Additionally, some threat of deserting the party always takes place as party nomination battles are waged, and this threat can dissipate. For example, in answer to a recent Gallup question, 11 percent of Republicans said they would vote for the Democratic candidate or a third-party candidate next fall if McCain does not choose a vice president who is considerably more conservative than he is. (And another 9 percent said they just wouldn't vote.)
“These results suggest that it may be normal for some voters to claim early on in the process -- perhaps out of frustration -- that they will desert their party if certain things do not happen to their liking. And it may be equally likely that they fall back into line by the time of the general election,’’ he writes.
“It is worth noting that in Gallup's historical final pre-election polls from 1992 to 2004, 10 percent or less of Republicans and Democrats typically vote for the other party's presidential candidate,’’ Newport reports. “Still, when almost three out of 10 Clinton supporters say they would vote for McCain over Obama, it suggests that divisions are running deep within the Democratic Party. If the fight for the party's nomination were to continue until the Denver convention in late August, the Democratic Party could suffer some damage as it tries to regroup for the November general election.’’
The findings are based on telephone interviews with 6,657 Democratic voters conducted March 7-22. They carry a possible margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points.

Comments
Obama and his supporters are reaping what they've sown.
Posted by: Bemused | March 26, 2008 9:52 AM
To my mind this only re-inforces the point I made at length below about America's being such a conservative country.
No one with a liberal or progressive mind could even consider voting for McCain.
On top of being quite conservative, he is an angry, unbalanced person, the kind of man you might think would be anathema to a woman wanting to see a woman president.
I think it suggests too how conservative Hillary actually is perceived to be by many of her followers.
And I think they are right.
Posted by: John Chuckman, Toronto, Canada | March 26, 2008 10:00 AM
This cannot be good news for Dem's in the fall , I'm sure Little Johnny Everdumb will find a silver lining though. Oh Johnny.... .come out , come out where ever you are...time to start singing for the DNC.
Posted by: Don B | March 26, 2008 10:07 AM
Democrats from either side who say they'll go for McCain should know exactly what they're voting for -- within the next four years, we're likely to have two new Supreme Court Justices as some of the 'liberal' ones retire from the bench or simply pass on. Voting in McCain is voting in a strong conservative majority on the Supreme Court; young justices who will last for decades.
Think about your views on abortion, citizen privacy & 4th Amendment protections, government transparancy, gay rights, etc and ask yourself if you're willing to throw it all away for the next 20+ years to spite the other Democratic candidate.
You might decide it's worth it. You might decide "I'd rather have a large conservative appointed majoirty than vote for Him/Her!" That's certainly your choice. But you should go into it informed.
Posted by: Jeff V. | March 26, 2008 10:08 AM
Those people are insane if they think a McCain presidency is preferable to either Clinton or Obama. They should just switch parties right now.
Posted by: trace | March 26, 2008 10:08 AM
I don't believe either number will reflect what happens in November. There may be a few soreheads, but how many Democrats will really vote for four more years of Bush? I've certainly thought about it because I'm not a fan of Hillary. Heck, I might have voted for McCain if he'd won the primary in 2000, but after watching him kiss up to Bush for the last 4 years there's just no way I'd vote for him now.
Posted by: Tom O | March 26, 2008 10:12 AM
Lets hope this country sees that Obama and Hillary stand for a weak defense, high taxes and corruption in Washington. I hope the numbers keep going up.
I predict Republicans will take back the Senate, cut the dems lead in the House and keep the White House.
Neither Hillary of Obama will drop out. Dems are in trouble. They are not going to revote in FL or MI. They will keep millions from having their voices heard.
Back room deals made by the dem leadership will split the party. Millions won't even go to the polls in Nov.
This is great for America.
Posted by: Jerry | March 26, 2008 10:14 AM
Well, many Obama supporters say they will not vote or vote McCain if superdelegates override the pledged delegates. They say it would be a "stolen" election if that were to occur.
The inability of Michigan and Florida to revote is viewed as a block by Obama and other Dems against Clinton, thus an attempt to "steal" the election.
Want to knock down those numbers? Allow Michigan and Florida to revote.
Posted by: FNLN | March 26, 2008 10:17 AM
This is interesting. The appeal of McCain and Obama to me is that they are each "uniters" or people that will clearly work in a bi-partisan, productive manner. My view is that Clinton will represent the polar-opposite of Bush and be a polarizing figure from the left.
I think that Clinton is the worst possible outcome for post-Bush America.
Posted by: Scott | March 26, 2008 10:18 AM
Let Obama win on his own; He is cocky and divisive politician.
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008 10:21 AM
I have watche presidential elections since Dwight Eisenhower days to this present day. I have never seen this much coverage toward two Democratic Rivals, and such nastiness; and, the media is fueling 99 per cent of it and often times not balancing for the American people what is truth or fiction. It's a good thing we have MSNBC.
Posted by: American First | March 26, 2008 10:23 AM
As Shrillary and Barrack have basically identical platforms which are juctapose to the McCain platform, it would seem those willing to change would be doing so for very childish and personal reasons rather that doing what they could to change the course of the government as it is currently. Maybe they'll hold their breath thill they turn blue unless she's nomimated too.
Heaven help us all.
Posted by: kg123 | March 26, 2008 10:23 AM
As Shrillary and Barrack have basically identical platforms which are juctapose to the McCain platform, it would seem those willing to change would be doing so for very childish and personal reasons rather that doing what they could to change the course of the government as it is currently. Maybe they'll hold their breath thill they turn blue unless she's nomimated too.
Heaven help us all.
Posted by: kg123 | March 26, 2008 10:24 AM
The kind of response identified in the chart comes from heat-of-the-campaign emotion. Once Obama is the nominee, these people will come to their senses. Even Billary will, because it will be in her own interest to fold and to support Obama.
Posted by: SpeakTheTruth | March 26, 2008 10:25 AM
Please stop publishing this crap. You're hurting America.
Posted by: Elanor | March 26, 2008 10:25 AM
Stupidity begets stupidity, and hillary is the stupidest of all. If anybody is dumb enough to support hillary, who cares who they vote for. hillary is a cheat, liar and loser. She suddenly attacks Obama's Pastor. How convenient this is in correlation to the article about hillary LYING HER AS* OFF.
It comes as no surprise to me however, that she thinks the Amercian people are as stupid as she is and not see through her crap.
IF you support hillary, find a DSM-IV and look up code "318.2". The DSM-IV is the Diagnostic Tool used by psychiatrists to assess and determine disabilities. It is available at most libraries. Again, 318.2, this describes you to a "T" if you support hillary.
I will blog later for anyone that is unable to look up the code. Or in hillary supporter's case, are unable to read.
Posted by: Rob S | March 26, 2008 10:28 AM
This would be typical of a Clinton supporter. Keep in mind that the majority of Clinton supporters are over 45, white women. They are, in essence, my mom. They would rather vote for something similar to what they've been used to for the past 50 years than to see something that could be completely different. They tend not to be risk takers, and this, to them, is a huge risk. Oh, they also tend to be very stubborn about their choice since they "know better" than the Obama backers (who tend to be in the 18-40 crowd, aka: their children).
BTW, Bemused, your comment makes no sense. "Reaping what they've sown"? What does that even mean?!?!?! Go back to your bible class, and leave the voting to those of us who have to deal with the repurcussions for the next 20 years.
Posted by: Jim B | March 26, 2008 10:30 AM
That makes it crystal clear - Hillary supporters want to continue Bush's war. They do not believe in the Democratic party and will sacrifice principles for pettiness. Hillary or we destroy the world!!!
Posted by: Chgosaint | March 26, 2008 10:31 AM
This is indicative of how defective Hillary supporters are. She's doing everything to split the party even going so far as to praising the GOP nominee. What it comes down to is Hillary is acting like a spoiled child who felt she was entitled to the nomination and now that she can't, she is throwing a tantrum and is wreaking havoc to get what she wants--not what she deserves.
She is more like the Republicans anyhow (meeting with Scaife) that those who would defect would be more in line with republican beliefs anyhow.
So for someone who says the same lie 4 different times within 3 months, due to sleep deprivation, how can she be trusted to have good judgment at 3 am?
Posted by: C. Spanecki | March 26, 2008 10:34 AM
How can Hillary not be the nominee?
Posted by: brigitte sanz | March 26, 2008 10:35 AM
I've been linking this report for two days and shocking incredulous lefties with it in the mccainocrats vs. obamacans thread.
Chuckman, for the last time if we wanted Canada's opinion on this "conservative country" we'd tell them what it is and then have them parrot it back to us like a good little pet.
Posted by: Jeff | March 26, 2008 10:36 AM
I'm a city employee and Obama might fool people in other parts of the country but he isn't fooling anyone in Chicago.I will never vote for him because he supported our corrupt Mayor Daley.If he is elected you will see all investigations into city hall stop and that other phony Bill Daley in a powerful cabinet position in the White House.You think those city contracts are corrupt now just imagine Obama in the White House and Daley dishing out Olympic contracts to his friends.The people in Chicago can't let that happen.
Posted by: BCC | March 26, 2008 10:39 AM
should Sen Clinton win the nomination many Obama supporters won't vote at all...I'm just sayin'
Posted by: sean | March 26, 2008 10:39 AM
Why wait switch now!!!You are not a true Democrat anyway if you are thinking about switching. It amazes me how we say we are focused on the ISSUES economy, healthcare, education and the war when you are so willing to choose someone who is not identifying with you these very topics. Instead you are being naive in focusing on tabloid publicity sound bites being distractedby all the posturing. Again I say SWITCH NOW HYPOCRITES
Posted by: act | March 26, 2008 10:42 AM
Bemused wrote: "Obama and his supporters are reaping what they've sown."
Sounds more like Hillary supporters whining and stamping their feet. Obama is winning this election, fair and square. It'ś Hillary who tries to change the rules (first agreeing that FL and MI wouldn't be counted, then later demanding that they should be). It's Hillary who lies about experience, who lies about gunfire in Bosnia. It's Hillary who calls those who don't vote for her "latte drinkers" and "boutique states" (recycling Republican class-warfare buzzwords).
Hillary is reaping what she has shown. She's finished. She has no chance of winning this election, and her slash-and-burn style has made her a pariah.
Posted by: matt | March 26, 2008 10:43 AM
Given that Hillary and Obama's platforms are not significantly different, and that Hillary holds a significant lead in supporters with low levels of education, this poll shows the stupidity of those who would vote for McCain should Obama be the Dem candidate. Really mature and inforned these people, eh?
Posted by: AB | March 26, 2008 10:43 AM
The question was misleading by not including an option of "or would you not vote at all". As opposed to Hillary's big donations from large donors, Barrack has built his campaign on countless donations from ordinary folks, including young voters. I foresee a lot of democratic no-shows as measured by donations and votes in the general election if Hillary gets the nomination.
Posted by: Dave | March 26, 2008 10:45 AM
Great job, Billary! Your ego's and entitlement will give the whitehouse back to the Republicans!
Posted by: K-Los | March 26, 2008 10:47 AM
"Come November, with Democrats motivated to reclaim the White House and Democrats turning out in record numbers in this year’s primaries, the numbers may tell a different story."
Also, according to that poll at least 20% of Republicans will either not vote or vote for the Democrat. Sort of evens things out.
Posted by: BobHusseininATL | March 26, 2008 10:48 AM
How can Obama unify all the races when Latinos, Asians, Jews and all other minorities (except blacks) vote against him? He reminded me of the former New York City black Mayor, David Dikins. Everybody was excited with the first black mayor back then and expected he could solve racial problems better than whites. Wrong! The Dikins administration had the most racial tension, and in fact, the administration spent all the time fighting racial issues and got nothing done. As a result, high unemployment rate, high crime rate. You can ask any New Yorkers to tell you about those bitter time. His administation probably is the worst in New York City History. Obama is nothing better, only he bring this to the national level. If you don't believe, look at how he forced to address the racial issues and how he divided all races despite his call for unity, and he's only the presidential candidate. I'm just afraid if he's the president, the "change" he would bring is too much for America to bear.
Posted by: Sherry | March 26, 2008 10:48 AM
Fools! Welcome to at least 4 more disastrous years chasing shadows in Iraq. Good chance of a war in Iran as well. Hey, here's a thought for you all. The return of the draft! Don't be so naive to think it can't happen!
Posted by: Dean | March 26, 2008 10:51 AM
Hillary can't win, and should exit now. McCain has all the time in the world to find the strongest possible running mate and gameplan for November, while Obama has to fight his own Party day in and day out. Here's how the VP process should -- and still can -- work, on both sides:
http://digits.hrblock.com/ssDigits/digits.php?rType=1&sPath=1140&sNode=1140&uId=198
Posted by: GHarri | March 26, 2008 10:53 AM
Stick a fork in Hillary. She's done.
Posted by: cosmo kramer | March 26, 2008 10:53 AM
I don't know why this kind of polling are done right now. We have six months till November. Remember by the early polling for primary we should have Mayor Gulliani representing Republican party and Sen Clinton for Dem by no contest.
I hope this kind of polling would stop because they are meaningless.
And Americans are the most forgiving people in the world and Democrates will forgive and will be behind either one of them.
Posted by: TJS | March 26, 2008 10:54 AM
I don't want Hillary to be the nominee, but if she somehow manages to steal it away, I will still vote for her, for one reason: The Supreme Court.
We cannot risk getting 1-2 more Alitos on the bench.
Posted by: Pilsen Dave | March 26, 2008 10:56 AM
If the Clinton - Obama war goes on the Democratic Party will be split in November and John McCain will win the presidency. With all the major issues on their side only the Democrats can blow this election. But they have done this before and have not learned from their past mistakes. Some Democrats still believe they are superior and smarter (especially some Obama supporters) than their political opposition. They have the attitude that the Republican Party is led by a jerk. But on election day the Democrats continue to lose presidential elections like in 2000 and 2004. Although the election is almost eight months away and politics that is eternity, the 2008 race could be a big McCain victory if the Democrats do not get their act together.
Posted by: Depot Jim | March 26, 2008 10:58 AM
brigitte sanz said,
"How can Hillary not be the nominee?"
Because she does not have the votes.
Hillary has no concern for anyone but Hillary.
She will do or say whatever she has to to garner votes.
I'd vote for Chelsea before Hillary.
By the by, I'm republican, I will vote for Obama if he wins the nomination, otherwise it's McCain.
Posted by: Paul | March 26, 2008 10:58 AM
I'm all for unity if it was indeed 'change I could believe in' but Obama's past and present loyalty to racist ministers, separatist churches, and contempt for his own white relatives is a little too much for me. So, no, I will not vote for Obama in November or ever. And that 30% voter ratio is actually more like 60% because it includes people that will also either sit out the GE if she's not the nominee or write Hillary's name in.
Posted by: typical white person | March 26, 2008 10:59 AM
Again I say the world is in terrible pain....I'm a staunch Hillary supporter but I'm worried about all the hate and egregious rhetoric being spewed in these post by both Hillary and Obama's backers. People, get a grip, enough with the hate and bitterness. Before this country can change, it looks like we the people need to change first.
Posted by: Melvin D. | March 26, 2008 10:59 AM
message to hillary supporters:
if you haven't already, please read david brooks' op-ed in the new york times.
then try to figure out a way to explain why anyone should trust your candidate after she was caught BLATANTLY FABRICATING a story, designed to show people she's tough and battle-tested, that was directly refuted by news footage.
this wasn't her misspeaking. saying you landed at la guardia instead of jfk is misspeaking. regaling reporters with a detailed account of something that never happened is called LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH.
after you've read brooks' op-ed and figured out a way to justify her bosnia remarks, please report back here and tell us what you've learned.
Posted by: tb | March 26, 2008 10:59 AM
Seriously, if you were a democrat for Florida or Michigan why, after having your primary vote disenfranchised, would you have confidence in this party in the Fall? ESPECIALLY if you're a Clinton supporter.
Posted by: Jeff | March 26, 2008 11:00 AM
The Dem circular firing squad hard at work. If I've made it 8 years through GWBush, I can live through 4 with McCain.
I just hope he doesn't get crazy and start something with Iran.
Can't wait until this one's over. It's fun though, watching the Billary machine go kicking and screaming, throwing everything around the Democratic National room on their way out.
Posted by: karl | March 26, 2008 11:00 AM
I don't buy this poll. If Hillary steals the nomination away from Obama, the backlash would be much greater. Did the poll make sure those "Clinton supporters who would vote McCain over Obama" weren't those Rush Limbaugh Republicans who are crossing over to vote Clinton?
This poll could also be Hillary's fault. Despite being too far behind, she continues to attack Barack and split up the party.
Despite John McCain's questionable Conservative views I believe he has better ethics than Hillary. She'll do anything to win.
Posted by: Zach | March 26, 2008 11:02 AM
Some required reading on what's ahead:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/opinion/25brooks.html?em&ex=1206676800&en=4d359d72887c4776&ei=5087%0A
Posted by: SpeakTheTruth | March 26, 2008 11:02 AM
I didn't need a poll to tell me that racism will drive Clinton supporters to McCain if Obama is the Democratic nominee!
Posted by: Reality | March 26, 2008 11:04 AM
How can Hillary not be the nominee?
Because she will NEVER have the numbers necessary. The only way she can even hope to compete is to 'do a Tonya Harding on Obama'.
Posted by: weinerdog43 | March 26, 2008 11:04 AM
Those must be Ferraro Democrats.
Posted by: Paul | March 26, 2008 11:04 AM
I would definately vote for Obama first, but McCain over Clinton second (if that option was not available).
Acutally, I would probably write-in Barack Obama anyway because I don't believe in either of the other candidates.
Posted by: OH | March 26, 2008 11:04 AM
When it comes time to vote, any democrat willing to vote for McCain will have to jistify voting to continue the war in Iraq. As an Obama supporter I can't justify a vote to continue this foolish course of action. I may not like Clinton, but I hate war.
Posted by: G HUSSEIN K | March 26, 2008 11:05 AM
Obama supporters on the blogs have been extremely insulting to both Clinton and Edwards supporters (see Rob S for an example). What they don't seem to realize is that Obama will need the votes of those supporters should he get the nomination.
They would rather vote for something similar to what they've been used to for the past 50 years than to see something that could be completely different.
Since both Clinton and Obama draw from the same pool of advisors and take money from the same people (Clinton from PACs, Obama directly from the people who give money to PACs - more than a bit disingenuous), how could Obama be "completely different"?
Part of the reason that the fighting between the two has grown so nasty is that there are only minor ideological differences between the two and so they can't argue policy. Neither completely represents my views, yet I would choose either over McCain.
Posted by: not really for either | March 26, 2008 11:06 AM
As an independent I would much rather see McCain than watch Hillary steal the nomination from Obama with lies and deceit. If she didn't use every dirty political trick I would think differently. It speaks volumes of someone's character if that a person will stoop to the lowest level of deceit to reach a personal goal. It seems her reasons are completely selfish. Her actions have proved to me that she is someone who isn't trustworthy at the very least. She comes across as “It's her way or the highway”, someone should inform her this isn't a dictatorship.
Posted by: Kris | March 26, 2008 11:06 AM
The hate that Hillary CLinton supporters get from the Obama supporters is one reason why this is happening. Look at the comments from Obamas supporters on this site. We are called crazy, stupid, petty, etc... Not to mention all the names she is called. I hope both sides can stop this name calling and focus on what is best for our country. Democrats 08!!!
Posted by: Ellen | March 26, 2008 11:07 AM
"How can Hillary not be the nominee?"
Do you have any understanding of what a popular vote and delegate count means Brigette? Perhaps you are too young to have begun math classes yet.
Obama leads by substantial margins in both categories and is narrowing the gap with the super delegates at a healthy clip.
Obama has the confidence of the majority of Democratic voters. This is not some hallucination. This is reality, which some voters have a hard time living in. Do not attempt to dismiss the majority of Democratic voters as some sort of anomoly.
I find it very telling that 30% of Hillary supporters are so headstrong and pompeous that they will forego the Democratic agenda to spite the other candidate. They are, after all, very similiar in their platforms.
But we can expect nothing less of Hillary supporters as they follow lock-step in the mean spirited, power craving, win at all costs personality of their leader.
Posted by: lookyhere | March 26, 2008 11:07 AM
Unbelievable stupidity on the part of the Clinton supporters, or arrogance.
Despite all of their rhetoric, they are essentially saying that they'd rather have four more years of Bush policies than ANY type of change.
What can they be thinking?
Maybe this is the Ralph Nader supporters they were actually talking to.
Posted by: dogjudge | March 26, 2008 11:07 AM
Gee, I remember way back in the mists of 1999 when alot of Democrats wanted to distance themselves from Gore and his Clinton connection voting for Bush with the excuse, "Well, how much harm could he do?" I guess we all have the answer to that now.
Posted by: lmwilker | March 26, 2008 11:08 AM
I guess those Clinton supporters who think her mind is OK when she "mis-remembers" her and Chelsea being shot at are fine with an old guy who probably also has memory problems.
I like to see a poll of how many people can't remember whether or not they've ever been shot at (under sniper fire) and had to "duck and run". It takes a very poor mind to not remember something like that.
OR, maybe she's just lying (again.)
Posted by: Reality | March 26, 2008 11:08 AM
Ever since Hillary realized that she was not going to glide right into the nomination and the presidency, she has waged a disgustingly negative campaign. With her daily attacks on Barack Obama, we've all lost track of where she really stands on the issues or where she plans on taking this country.
Hillary and Bill have done irreparable damage to their legacies. It's truly sad to witness this couple's fall from grace.
Posted by: Enrique | March 26, 2008 11:09 AM
The democratic party must decide to count votes of Florida and Michigan either by revoting or counting vote of Florida & revoting Michigan (Obama was not on the list there). This MUST be done very quickly, otherwise republican will continue white house next four years also.
I think this is VERY VERY important for demcrats.
The party leadership should not be foolish enough to hold the ground by the rule they set earlier. If that happens, the blem will go to the party leadership, and not the candidates or the demcrat voters.
Posted by: R Sh | March 26, 2008 11:10 AM
Not surprising that Hillary's bigot brigade would so easily flip. Given most of her 50+ female supporters fled the cities in terror in the 1970s the minute the first successful black or hispanic family could afford to buy a house on their block...I know, god love her, that's what my grandma did and she supports Hillary/McCain. I think most people under 40 have these "skeleton" relatives tucked away and I for one am so glad Barack is confronting this head on. I'm tired of apologizing for my grandmother. It's time to get past this generation and create a new American political landscape. Maybe we can vote to put both McCain and Hillary in a nursing home this fall.
Posted by: mike | March 26, 2008 11:12 AM
Ugh. Obliquely making fun of intellectually challenged people by referencing the DSM-IV - how very progressive. I'm beginning to think that lefties and neocons are equally nasty. I don't think any of these candidates (or any of their constituents) represents a fiscally conservative, anti-war view. What about the 40% of us in the middle?
Posted by: ceci | March 26, 2008 11:16 AM
Not Really For Either said: "Obama supporters on the blogs have been extremely insulting to both Clinton and Edwards supporters (see Rob S for an example). What they don't seem to realize is that Obama will need the votes of those supporters should he get the nomination."
That's how I felt when Hillary Clinton started mocking me for voting for Obama and telling me that I was brainwashed, waiting for a choir of angels to save me and that I needed to "get real". Apparently there's no chance that I made my decision via intelligent reasoning, I was just a blind devotee.
I'm not sure what she hopes to gain by insulting people who don't agree with her or think someone else might be better for the job.
Posted by: Jeff V. | March 26, 2008 11:16 AM
Billary ("I never had sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky !") and Obama and the Democratic (BOY ! There's a misnomer !) Party and the rest of the loony left always say the same thing: " Just because socialism failed in the Soviet Union doesn't mean it can't work here ! :) "
Posted by: Daniel P. From Long Island, N.Y. | March 26, 2008 11:18 AM
Billary ("I never had sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky !") and Obama and the Democratic (BOY ! There's a misnomer !) Party and the rest of the loony left always say the same thing: " Just because socialism failed in the Soviet Union doesn't mean it can't work here ! :) "
Posted by: Daniel P. From Long Island, N.Y. | March 26, 2008 11:19 AM
Well since the 28% would rather see a republican take the office, they will get what their hand calls for. So what if they cut off there nose to spite their face. They will still be singing the same old blues four years down the road!
Posted by: C.P. | March 26, 2008 11:20 AM
If Senator Obama receives the democratic nomination and loses the general election, I am sure Senator Clinton will be blamed by the Obama supporters. If Senator Clinton were to receive the nomination, I am certain the African American supporters of Obama will resent her so much they will not vote. Either way, both Senator Clinton and Bill Clinton will probably never regain support from the majority of African Americans---which is a shame.
Posted by: Jeff | March 26, 2008 11:20 AM
P.S. As a Hillary supporter, I'm offended being called idiotic, stupid, infantile, etc. because I will vote for McCain beore Obama. As a 25 year old Black Chicago Male, I will never vote for Obama because I simply believe he is not qualified to be commander and chief of this great nation. I may disagree with McCain's politics, but I do believe he is qualified for the job. It's as simple as that.
Posted by: Melvin D. | March 26, 2008 11:20 AM
Who is Hillary fooling by attacking Rev Wright . Her attack only goes to reinforce the popular view that " Hillary will do anything to get elected". What Hilary should have done is to advance the discussion begun by Obama on race relations and the whole notion that the Americans are "One People, One Nation" . But of course does she care less whether race relations iprove or deteroriate as long as she gets elected?
In all this, I see John MacCain writhing his hands gleefully and saying.....Go on..go on . Come Nov, the Democrats will beautifully hand the presidency to the Republicans without a fight. But again, does Hillary care a hoot who gets it, if it's not her?
Posted by: Katheru | March 26, 2008 11:23 AM
Ever since Iowa, Obama supporters and the slavish press have called for Clinton to drop out. Millions of Democratic voters since then have disagreed...but the press ignores those millions - and insults their choice.
I have voted Democratic all my adult life, but if Obama is the nominee I will sit this one out.
He's where he is by winning caucuses in such key states as Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, and North Dakota...states that will never go blue. Clinton carried the states needed to win this thing, but the press is so in the tank for Saint Barack they count Idaho as equal to California.
Good luck with all that when November rolls around.
Posted by: tomkandrews | March 26, 2008 11:23 AM
The question is what states these people are from. If most of them are from reliably blue states, or reliably red states, who cares? We only want to know what the dems in the battleground states think. Why does Gallup do national polls when that's not how we elect our presidents? You have to do it state-by-state, otherwise it's meaningless. And you need to include info on how many independents and republicans would cross over to vote for Clinton or Obama.
Posted by: Jordan Marsh | March 26, 2008 11:24 AM
I just walk in, punch the Republican tab, and walk out. No muss, no fuss.
Posted by: Father Billius Maximus | March 26, 2008 11:27 AM
"Democrat's" weak on Defense. Where did this lie form? Democrat's are Tax Spend; another lie. The Truth: Democrat's realize, that the weapons we have now can destroy the whole world a million times over so Democrat's want to maintain a powerful force but not drain all our resources in Defense. The Republicans on the other hand, is always trying to create Democracy in every independent country and causing trouble so they only know Foreign Policy. Democrat's will reduce spending; for example the 612 billion going to Iraq and Bush's CEO buddies pockets, and re direct that money to have a work program where the unemployed can work on environment jobs; create a Health care system whereby, Americans can be insured to pay rising Health cost; re-build our infrastructure's: bridges, Dams, highways; in essence, Democrat's will improve our Domestic Policies and also, stabilize our Foreign Policy. The Republicans do little or nothing with American Foreign Policy but give "lip" service. What the hell are Americans paying taxes for? Is it to pay foreign goverments a Welfare Check every month like we give Israel, Jordan, Eygpt, and hundreds of other countries. When is our National government going to stop spending our tax dollars on everyone else- but not us? Isn't giving these foreign governments money Welfare? But, to give us Health Care like France and Canada and England has is asking for our government to do to much with our tax dollars.
And if America want's the government and social framework of our country to go back to pre-1960 vote in McCain so he can put on the Supreme Court Justices who are Right Wing Zealots so we can have Rush Limbough on every television and radio station. Perhaps they will legalize Lynching again. This election is very important. With McCain, more Iraq war, and even possible conflict with Iran; North Korea, and China and the Soviet Union. Make up your mind folks. I'm voting Democratic.
Posted by: American First | March 26, 2008 11:30 AM
These people are unreasonable and are obviously not thinking to clearly. I am an Obama supporter, but I would much rather see Clinton in the White House than McCain on any day of the week. If somehow she ends up with the nomination, I will bitterly vote for her for that very reason. There is no need to cut off our noses to spite our face now is there?
Posted by: jes | March 26, 2008 11:33 AM
When I told my brothetr I was an active Obama supporter, he lowered his head and whispered to me: When THEY get into the privacy of a voting booth, THEY won't vote for a Black man.
That ruined my day.
Posted by: David | March 26, 2008 11:34 AM
I have not always been as strong a Democrat as now. That is because the past eight years I have seen a President that cared little for the majority of Americans and a Republican congress that have done everything possible to support him up despite the needs and wishes of the majority. This has been a group that has placed power and party over people time and time again. I think it is very necessary to defeat the Republicans so soundly, they will be forced to give reflection to what went wrong and to understand their purpose of existance is for people and not the other way around.
I see Clinton the better answer for beginning and continuning the effort to clean up the bush/Republican mess. However should Obama rather than Clinton get the nod, I would hope all true Democrats as well as Independents and disgruntled Republicans stand together with an Obama vote. We cannot elect more of the same with McCain. Should this happen, it would be bush all over and we just cannot afford more of the same in running this country.
If you believe this country has been harmed and needs proper leadership to get us back on the correct way, giving into individual dislike and bringing back Republican leadership because of it, tells me America's best interest is not important to you.
Posted by: Ken | March 26, 2008 11:35 AM
I'm among the 28% who will switch rather than vote for Obama and it has little to do with race or party loyalty. I simply don't trust Obama, don't buy his feel-good talk, and concerned about the lack of any real experience. He's never run any large organization. Past presidents that have had "no experience" had at least run state governments or large organizations like armies. They knew what it took at the most senior level to run a massive organization - Obama does not. I'm indifferent between Clinton and McCain since both have had much more relevant experience than Obama. I liked McCain the last time around, but he's had a few senior moments lately. He's been enough of a maverick that I think he would buck the status quo if something better was presented. We'll have to see what he does for a VP.
Posted by: dymoy | March 26, 2008 11:39 AM
It absolutely blows my mind that there is actually a contest between the republicans and the democrats! I am flabbergasted that approximately half of this country would vote for McCain and have thus elected to wage war on every country in the Middle East. very sad indeed. The war in Iraq has cost us trillions of dollars, and what do we get for that? A weaker economy! I'm shocked by how stupid Americans truly are.
Posted by: kara | March 26, 2008 11:40 AM
It is as indicative of how Obama supporters are, keep in mind soiled wealthy know it all brats, as it is indicative of how Hillary supporters are.
Notice it only talks about a percentage of Hillary supporters willing to do this. It talks about a percentage of Obama supporters willing to do this. I know that the Obama network likes to typify, but it is rather dis ingenious to label the motivations of a whole group based on the motivations of a percentage.
And, YES, Obama is reaping what he has sown. He did not make winning over the Democratic party his first mission. His first mission was to bridge some type of divisiveness between Democrats Republicans. His ticket was aimed at disenfranchised Republicans and Independents. By reaching out to Republicans and Independents first over Bush AND Clinton, Obama also reached over a portion of his party. He decided to reach out to Republicans, accommodating their viewpoint, and in that moved away from the Democrat party to now have to go back and unite the party he belongs to.
Posted by: cyclonefence | March 26, 2008 11:40 AM
This poll means nothing. When it comes down to it, they'll pull the lever for Obama. The same is true, though to a slightly lesser extent with Obama supporters should Clinton get to nod.
Posted by: dem in chicago | March 26, 2008 11:41 AM
Obama the Uninformed Socialist and Hillary the Entitled One supporters can be so nasty sometimes. (same type of people who light mansions on fire to protest environmental causes...real smart)
Obama and his tax-'em for everything they got and spend it all attitude is the product of his experience in Chicago (gotta love it here, everything is taxed and regulated). Micromanagers and tax raisers are caused by an inability to confront and tackle the tough work of cutting inefficient and proven-to-not-work socialist programs.
Obama and Socialism 08 yay!!
...with Socialism for all and Handouts for some.
Posted by: Obama Nanny State | March 26, 2008 11:42 AM
HA HA HA HA!!! Bunch of divided and conquered liberals!!!
Posted by: cliff bradie | March 26, 2008 11:43 AM
Wake-up America. A vote for O'Bama is a knee-jerk reaction against Bush; an ill-informed vote at that. He's not done a good job for Illinois (he's always looked beyond his "current" job as Junior Senator), he is where he is today by default (whatever happened to Jack Ryan?) and he simply says what he thinks people want to hear without any regard or knowledge about what it will take to get there. Go ahead, elect him. I'd suggest you get ready for a bumpy ride however!
Posted by: JIM H | March 26, 2008 11:47 AM
It may be 19% of Obama supporters who would vote for McCain if Hillary were the nominee but you didn't poll the other 81% of Obama supporters who wouldn't vote at all, who would stay home rather than vote for Hillary Clinton!
Posted by: RuthieM | March 26, 2008 11:47 AM
Viewing the posts by the Obama supporters regarding this subject and others, I can't help but notice the hubris and condescension that they display towards any one who disagrees with them or Obama.After Iowa Obama and his followers were demanding that John Edwards immediately leave the race because he was in Obama's way to the nomination.This despite the fact that there were many more primaries to be held and the fact that Iowa is one of the smallest and most homogenous states in the country.When Obama couldn't close the deal in New Hampshire and lost to Senator Clinton, per the Obama people, it wasn't that the voters in N.H. felt that Clinton was a better candidate. Oh no, it was the "Bradley Effect".When voters express a genuine concern about Obama's ever changing story about his financial and personal relationship with Tony Rezko, the Obama people tell us "to move along" and that there is nothing there. Yet each time Senator Obama is pressed on the issue, the amount of money that Rezko directed towards Obama's campaign keeps growing; with the last count being in the six figures.They demand transparency from the Clinton campaign, yet when reporters request information regarding the number of fund raisers that Rezko held for Obama, Obama refuses to answer. The same regarding his papers and records from his time in the Illinois Senate.When voters state that they do not feel that Obama would be the best person for the Presidency, the Obama campaign and their followers accuse those with legitimate political differences as racists.The scenario is already being laid down by the Obama campaign and its followers that if obama is the Democratic nominee and he loses to McCain, it won't be due to the voting public choosing McCain over Obama for which ever reasons the voters choose, but rather because of Senator Clinton.Hubris has caused the fall of many people and empires.The Obama campaign and it followers would be wise to take note.
Posted by: notjmariotti | March 26, 2008 11:48 AM
***HILLARY VOTERS FOR McCAIN***
I'm for Hillary, and believe Obama had no business running with his juvenile resume in the first place.
I believe this poll because even before the primary season started, myself and friends who backed Clinton said we would vote for McCain if Obama won the nomination.
I believe we will start the "Hillary Backers for McCain" movement if this newbie is our democrat nominee!
Posted by: Bill | March 26, 2008 11:48 AM
It isn't that I'm so die-hard. It is that I find Obama so totally appalling. I don't want to be petty or insulting. But the company Obama has kept in the last years is creepy, and his state and US Senate records are hardly comforting, either, if you do your homework. Shoot, even Kennedy and Dodd have had to put him in his place for slacking, and trying to take credit for things he didn't do.
At least with McCain, I feel like I know what I'm getting, even though I don't agree with a lot of his beliefs.
Posted by: mary | March 26, 2008 11:52 AM
Why do people keep blaming Hillary and Barack for the Michigan and Florida screw-ups? Those states did it to themselves. Barack at least played by the rules and didn't campaign there.
The fact that some Dems would vote for McCain is a reflection on how bad the Bush years have been -- ANYONE seems better.
I just hope these people come to their senses and think about the issues.
Posted by: Jann | March 26, 2008 11:53 AM
Jim H: Obama got where he is "by default," huh? Seems you've forgotten that Obama was ahead of Jack Ryan in the polls by 20% when his divorce papers put the final nail in his coffin.
Posted by: Tim | March 26, 2008 11:55 AM
At first glance, the Swamp appears to be populated mainly by Bears-Packers fans with their usual goofy arguments. Closer inspection reveals 80% who post here aren't that mature. The petty arguments are similar to the screaming of my two very young grandsons.
Posted by: Jeff | March 26, 2008 11:55 AM
The only way that Clinton will be able to snatch the nomination away from Obama is to continue to use divisive, nasty tactics in the hopes of trying to keep the remaining superdelegates from supporting Obama. Reid, Pelosi, Gore, Kennedy and others including Howard Dean, who is appearing more incompetent and inept with each passing day, need to step up, back a candidate and focus this campaign on McCain. Reid is still saying this will work itself out before the convention. That is stupid. They just don't want to be put in the position to have to solve this. It needs to be worked out now so that resources can be targeted on the Republicans in the general as opposed to our own party. We have WEAK leadership in the Democratic party right now.
Posted by: Ron | March 26, 2008 11:57 AM
Here is the problem with your poll. I am African-American and in my community and on Black radio station across the the country the word is if Clinton gets the nomination we will not vote at allSo there is a third element you neeed to look at as well.
Posted by: Bobby Speaks | March 26, 2008 11:58 AM
Nineteen percent by Obama supporters is also remarkable.
Why not mention that in your caption???
Posted by: Jin | March 26, 2008 11:58 AM
It's just another ridiculous poll. Am I the only one noticing that half of these polls mean nothing? How many exit polls have been dead wrong lately? I lived in Dupage county and back in 2006 I voted for Tammy Duckworth. There was a CNN poll that came out only a week before the election that had her up by double digits over Roskam. Guess who won???
Posted by: Bones | March 26, 2008 12:03 PM
Whole lot of posturing going on, both in the poll and the comments. Wonder how many of these "I'd rather.." people are the same ones that swore they were moving to Canada if Bush won a second term. Until you step into that booth and commit your vote, it's all just wind.
Posted by: Switching parties, eh? | March 26, 2008 12:04 PM
Hil had this thing sewn up but acted like an untouchable incumbent instead of a hungry newcomer. Then Barry had this thing sewn up until he was outed by his friends and then strayed from his "above the fray" approach and started name-calling and opponent bashing.
If Hil would have gone after the nomination aggressively in the beginning, this would have been over long ago. If Barry would have stayed away from the name-calling and bashing, he could have put his current problems behind him. They both had it in their hands and lost it. Neither deserves to win anything.
Posted by: John M | March 26, 2008 12:06 PM
This is just fear mongering. Remember a majority of these "switchers" were behind Bush and for the Iraq War. Don't forget also that 20% of American are racist. I'm fine with them going to the Republicans. We will still win. Who needs em.
Posted by: Irishspacemonk | March 26, 2008 12:17 PM
To "not really for either":
Obama supporters on the blogs have been extremely insulting to both Clinton and Edwards supporters (see Rob S for an example). What they don't seem to realize is that Obama will need the votes of those supporters should he get the nomination.
Where in my post do I mention that I support Obama? I do not recall giving him a nod. The post was simply to help people realize that hillary is the worst choice.
I read a reply yesterday saying "give her a break. She has been campaigning and is tired". Well, to use her own terms, what will happen when the call comes in at 3:00 am, and she is tired.
hillary wins, USA loses.
Posted by: Rob S | March 26, 2008 12:22 PM
It is funny to me that Hillary wants to run America and the White House and while being first lady in the White House she couldn't control her own husband. It would be a big mistake to allow the Clintons in the White House again. If the Clintons couldn't do the right thing the first time why would they do the right thing now. I believe with Gov. Spitzer being friends with the Clintons and men talk that Bill is in the same sex ring or another one. Just because you are the former President's wife does not automatically give her all this experience that she keeps embellishing about. I believe if you want to know more about the Clintons ask Monica Lewinsky amd all of Clintons other women. He probably shared more with them than Hillary in regards to being President and therefore should Monica Lewinsky be able to run for the Presidency because she was with the former President.
Posted by: Londa - Illinois | March 26, 2008 12:25 PM
I'm tremendously tired of this campaign. It's ugly business. From what I know, here and now, McCain is the lesser of three evils. The dems golden opportunity to seize control of the executive branch is failing miserably. Here we have a lying conniver willing to say ANYTHING, and another person in close association with a vitriol filled, anti-american pastor. (I'll never get over the fact that Wright married Obama and baptisted his children) As I type, JM is talking international policy, while the two dunder head dems just toss dirt at each other. What a sham, what a shame.
Posted by: Alex | March 26, 2008 12:25 PM
Hillary needs to drop out now - for the good of the party and the nation.
Posted by: Pete | March 26, 2008 12:27 PM
Sour Grapes... it will fade.
Posted by: PulSamsara | March 26, 2008 12:31 PM
SERIOUS ABOUT HEALTHCARE? Wouldn't you think that a Presidential candidate like O'Bama who has been preaching the importance of healthcare for all in this country might want to consider quitting smoking? It's hard to hear him go on and on about the importance of healthcare and then to see him light a cigarette later on. Not really someone I want my children looking up to as a role model. By the way, isn't nicotine (a poisonous alkaloid C10H14N2 that is the chief active principle of tobacco and is used as an insecticide) classified as a drug?
Posted by: JIM H | March 26, 2008 12:33 PM
This is all very interesting, but there is another factor to consider. I am not a Democrat and so I don't fit in this profile, but I have voted for Obama in the primary and will vote for him in November. Hillary will NOT be getting my vote.
There are a lot of us Independents and dissatisfied Republicans that the Democratic party will lose if Clinton is the candidate in November. Good luck to them then.
I will be voting for Nader.
Posted by: Regina Fierke | March 26, 2008 12:33 PM
In spite of what the DNC and RNC would like to believe, most voters are neither liberal nor conservative. They vote for candidates that they like and trust. That's why most voters split thier tickets. McCain has a history of reaching out to the other side, so its not inconcievable that many of those who support Clinton or Obama would see McCain as their second choice.
Posted by: JohnP | March 26, 2008 12:35 PM