Hillary Clinton's disappearing act: Next stop SNL: The Swamp
The Swamp
Posted March 1, 2008 6:30 PM
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Clinton appeared on Jon Stewart's Daily Show in October 2003 -- see an account below -- when she spoke, one year after voting to authorize the use of military force in Iraq, of a "sense of unease in the country,'' including "the problems we confront in Iraq.'' Tonight, word is, it's Saturday Night Live.


by Rick Pearson and Mark Silva and updated tonight

Where in the world is Hillary Clinton?

Live, from New York...?

The Tribune's Rick Pearson, on take-off from Texas in the Clinton campaign plane, noted one missing passenger: The candidate.

Rick's initial file below left a lot of questions unanswered, he readily admits.

Follow us, on and off this evening, while we live-blog, in search of the answer to the question, where in the world is Hillary Clinton?

* * *

DALLAS — When reporters arrived at Hillary Clinton’s campaign plane this evening, someone was missing — the candidate.

Officials for the campaign refused to say where Clinton was or why she was not making the flight to Ohio. With the plane enroute from Love Field, Clinton had no public events scheduled tonight in Ohio.

Clinton’s mystery disappearing act came, ironically, on a day where she had criticized her rival, Barack Obama, for being “missing in action” on critical issues involving foreign affairs.Aides said there was no health problem with Clinton. Her Secret Service detail also was not on the flight from Dallas.

Clinton aides also refused to say if she was traveling to North Carolina, the home of former presidential candidate John Edwards. Both Clinton and Obama have actively courted the former senator's endorsement.

* * *

At 7:30 pm EST, the Tribune's John McCormick offers this theory:

Clinton could be going to see Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, too.

Someone asked Sen. Barack Obama when he last spoke with Richardson, and he said four days ago. We then asked him whether we would be seeing Richardson in Texas on Monday or Tuesday, and Obama said he did not think so.

* * *

At 8:30 pm, Rick Pearson lands in Ohio to report: "Hearing SNL may be a possibility.''

Indeed, one of the Swamp's readers has contributed a reported dispatch from CNN which sites a source as saying that Clinton will make an appearance on NBC's Saturday Night Live this evening.

That's at 11:30 pm EST.

Last week, it was SNL that was mocking Clinton and Obama in debate the week before. It looks like, tonight, SNL will be working with the raw material.

* * *

Here's the item from CNN's "Poltical Ticker:''

(CNN) – Days before a crucial set of primaries, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is expected to make a surprise appearance on Saturday Night Live tonight, an entertainment industry source tells CNN.

A spokesman for Saturday Night Live would not confirm the appearance, saying only, “It's a live show, anything can happen”

Clinton did not arrive for a campaign charter flight from Dallas to Columbus, Ohio Saturday evening. The campaign would not say where she was.

Democratic candidate Barack Obama appeared on Saturday Night Live unannounced around Halloween, and GOP candidate Mike Huckabee did a bit on the show’s Weekend Update last Saturday. Clinton is also scheduled to appear on John Stewart’s Daily Show Monday, on the eve of voting in Ohio, Texas, Rhode Island and Vermont.

* * *

On air, near 9 pm, CNN's Suzanne Malveaux poses the question: Will Clinton be talking about those "3 a.m. phone calls'' that stand at the center of a heated TV ad-war between Clinton and Obama on SNL tonight?

Stay tuned, as they say.

* * *

It was days after Halloween, on Nov. 3, when Obama appeared on SNL, arriving at a costume party that Hillary and Bill Clinton impersonators were throwing. A guy with an Obama mask showed up, removing it to show:

Obama.

Tonight, Clinton gets a chance to play herself.

* * *

Clinton appeared on Jon Stewart's Daily Show in October 2003, introduced as the author of Living History:

They talked a lot about the blackout that had struck New York City.

“The lights began to flicker… then someone came in and said, you need to evacuate the building…’’ she said

She was asked about the election in California that had made Arnold Schwarzenegger governor after a recall of Democratic Gov. Gray Davis.

“That’s right,’’ she said.

“I thought the recall was not a great idea, but it’s up to the people of California. I wish them well now,’’ Clinton said. “They have a lot of big problems out there.’’

“You cannot deal with something like big deficits or unpopular environmental problems and things like that, unless you are willing to make some tough decisions.’’

Stewart asked about “the crazy thirst that people have for leadership… even fictional character leadership.’’

“I really do think there is a sense of unease in the country, that people are looking at the economy for example… the problems we confront in Iiraq,'' said Clinton, who had voted one year earlier with the majority of the Senate to authorize the use of military force in Iraq. "I think people do want some idea that we are making the right decisions, that we are moving in the right direction''

Stewart asked if there is any chance of chewing California off at the border, like “a coyote caught in a leg trap.’’

“I like Califorinia,’’ Clinton said.

“It’s got delicious fruit,’’ Stewart said.

With a little preview of the campaign to come, Clinton drew applause when she spoke of problems being the fault of ‘the present administration in Washington.''

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Comments

It's like a movie. Is it a plot to abduct her travelling press corps? Will they offer them in exchange for McCain's press corps?


I'm missing the irony here. If she has no public event scheduled in Ohio how is she missing in action? I would hardly see a comparison being made between not going somewhere and not going somewhere on actual issues. OMG she didn't go to the ladies room, irony on a day she criticized her rival for being missing in action on foreign issues.


How can we keep giving foreign aid when our economy is in the toilet?
Bush is giving the country away.


Saturday Night Live appearance.


Who cares. I hope we never here from her Bill, or the Bush family again.


So why tell the press they were going to Ohio, take the press to Ohio, but not the candidate? When did the press learn their erstwhile subject had eluded them? And then why not reveal her wherabouts? I'd be okay with needing a quiet night to rest--why the mystery?

As with Richarson on the morning talk shows, it's too late for an Edwards endorsement to be very meaningful--it needed to come out last week, at the latest Friday followed by powerful campaigning through the weekend. An announcement Sunday and one joint appearance Monday? That doesn't make sense.


bronellone,

The amount of foreign aid that we give to other countries is such a small percentage of our country's GDP, about .0015 of GDP.
Also foreign aid can also be used to stimulate the domestic economy. Helping poor countries has no negative effect on our economy or on our ability to assist the American public


Hillary's been abducted by aliens (the ET version)?

Nah. No such luck, America.


Since her daughter is there and her husband is there, perhaps they wanted an evening for themselves, out of the public eye!


Today's bleat from the Clinton campaign–-this time from Hillary mega-contributor Walter Shorenstein, founder of the Joan Shorenstein Center on the Press, who claims that HRC is losing because the media is biased against her–-tells me two things.

First, that there is a cultural commonality of victimhood that unites Clintonites–they are never responsible for their failures, their mistakes, or their lies, ever (”not one time,” as Bill would, and did, say).

Second, that the media is actually bending over (and not necessarily backwards), to accomodate this kind of bullroar in order to placate the fading bulls of the Democratic establishment.

Maybe real estate developer Shorenstein should remember the words of broastcast legend Edward R. Murrow:

“We cannot make good news out of bad practice.”

You cannot make good news with a bad candidate either.


People STILL talk about how they WISH Edwards was still in the race. Clinton and Obama wanna give us health INSURANCE
not the health care REVOLUTION we need. Richardson or Edwards would bring a lot of cred to get Obama to either tell us whether Rezko is going to end up making us all salute "President McCain" or whether all our money and time was WASTED on an egomaniac( and wife) who did not want to wait just 1 or 2 election cycles to lead our country. It's not too late for Obama to sit down with Novak and Marin and others and let us know if this sword of damocles will harm our efforts to save this country and planet.


Live from New York it's Saturday Night! In the end, Her "surprise" appearance won't help her pull off surprises in Texas and Ohio.


LH Schoen, I'd absolutely buy that if her campaign would just offer it. I'd think it would really help with the next 2 days of campaigning to have a normal evening, as Obama has done sometimes with his kids at home. Why not just say that?

Who could have an endorsement so big that a Sunday announcement and Monday ensemble appearance would make a difference? Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt? At this point Obama or Edwards, even Gore, would be a teeny little two-fingered boost. The timing rendering it damning with faint praise.


I read on TPM that she is supposed to do the Daily Show on March 3rd. Maybe taping early?


(CNN) – Days before a crucial set of primaries, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is expected to make a surprise appearance on Saturday Night Live tonight, an entertainment industry source tells CNN.

A spokesman for Saturday Night Live would not confirm the appearance, saying only, “It's a live show, anything can happen”

Clinton did not arrive for a campaign charter flight from Dallas to Columbus, Ohio Saturday evening. The campaign would not say where she was.

Democratic candidate Barack Obama appeared on Saturday Night Live unannounced around Halloween, and GOP candidate Mike Huckabee did a bit on the show’s Weekend Update last Saturday. Clinton is also scheduled to appear on John Stewart’s “Daily Show” Monday, on the eve of voting in Ohio, Texas, Rhode Island and Vermont.


That really is a most ridiculous article and, like 'irony' above, I fail to see the relevance, other than a contrived cheap shot at her.


Jeff may have solved it. Hard to see how this helps, exactly, but I guess after the SNL-as-solid-debate point stuff, it can't hurt.


HillBilly is going to be on SNL with Giuliani schmoozing with a Republican.


I did not kidnap that woman, ms. Clinton.

*spoken in Arkansas accent.


did you find her yet? and why is it that some of these people in the comments section are doing all the work...

the informants in the press pool dropped the ball on their target..


"Hard to see how this helps, exactly"

Free airtime and free press afterwards. She wants another story in the paper saying "Clinton Does Such-and-Such..."

Obama keeps outspending her so this is a chance for some free exposure.


“The bumpy Obama bandwagon

The best you can say about this year’s primary season is that it is interesting. Complicated to the point of being inscrutable might be a better description. The Republicans by late 2007 were so dispirited by the Bush legacies that their field of candidates was a has-been and several never-was-or-will-be types. The Democrats, smelling a sure win, attracted a pack of at least six qualified candidates eager to make the kill. Their only question was who will win, not will we win.

Fast-forward. The Republican primary is over. Sen. McCain is on a mop-up mission to finish off Gov. Huckabee. He even began to campaign against Sen. Clinton a few weeks ago. Sen Obama began his surge (one of McC’s favorite words) and now he is McCains’ prime target.
I mentioned several months ago the nagging fear of many longtime Democrats that somehow, against all odds, our party would find a way to lose the unloseable election. This is no longer a remote possibility at all. Start with the Democratic National Committee, which concocted the “Super Tuesday” primary day, thinking they would pick a winner early. Then, carried away with some arrogant sense of authority they did not have, they told Michigan and Florida that their primary results would not be honored at the convention. This disenfranchised two hugely important swing states.
Thank you, Chairman Dean, for that one.
Then the Obama phenomenon happened. He is a self-made candidate of the highest order. His oratory is outstanding, and he has found a way to “game” the primary process successfully. Most of his speeches are of the high school graduation variety. They are filled with clichés about new beginnings, going forward to a better tomorrow, and are fattened with lofty quotes from John Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr. and Tom Jefferson.
There is very little substance. His patented stump speech is classic demagoguery: emotional, optimistic and vague enough so that listeners can fill in the blanks with whatever they think they want to hear and imagine that he said it.
Gaming the primaries also required skill. He played his race card well. First, he has convinced too much of the press that any criticism from Sen. Clinton concerning his inexperience or his lack of specific programs is somehow a “negative attack,” but he must be allowed to say anything he wants about her and not be held to any standard of negativity.
Likewise, he has concentrated on winning primaries in states with significant black voting populations that are not going to be won by any Democrat in November, no matter who they are. Alabama, Kanas and Georgia come to mind.
The political lemmings that flock to Obama based on his “momentum” must look inside the numbers. As of today, Clinton has won the popular vote in states with 205 electoral votes. 134 of these are in solidly Democrat states that either she or Obama will win. Obama has won states with 189 electoral votes, but only 58 of them are in solidly Democrat states. The other 131 are from states that are either “in play,” or states that no Democrat will win, i.e. Utah and Idaho.
There are a lot of smoke and mirrors in the mystique. Clinton and Obama are struggling to win delegates in Texas and Ohio to nail their nominations, but both of these states went Republican in 2004. For either Democrat to win in Texas there will have to be a 24 percent turnaround. Ohio seems to be totally in play.
The Democrats may have painted themselves into a losing corner with their exciting, but misleading, primary. The states in play are almost all either shiny red states or “purple” states with a mix of red and blue voters. These are states with conservative social practices entrenched, and also where the war and overt patriotism are not suspect. These states are the home states of the regular combat divisions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Michelle Obama’s proud statement that she has never, until now, been proud of her country will not play well there.
In order to nominate Obama the Democrats have to suspend belief in reality. Sen. Clinton has shown she can carry the states in the electoral votes needed to win. Her credentials are based on hard experience, not wishful thinking. The Democrats can’t afford to ignore her ability, experience and toughness to nominate anyone else. Sen. McCain hopes they will.”


“The bumpy Obama bandwagon

The best you can say about this year’s primary season is that it is interesting. Complicated to the point of being inscrutable might be a better description. The Republicans by late 2007 were so dispirited by the Bush legacies that their field of candidates was a has-been and several never-was-or-will-be types. The Democrats, smelling a sure win, attracted a pack of at least six qualified candidates eager to make the kill. Their only question was who will win, not will we win.

Fast-forward. The Republican primary is over. Sen. McCain is on a mop-up mission to finish off Gov. Huckabee. He even began to campaign against Sen. Clinton a few weeks ago. Sen Obama began his surge (one of McC’s favorite words) and now he is McCains’ prime target.
I mentioned several months ago the nagging fear of many longtime Democrats that somehow, against all odds, our party would find a way to lose the unloseable election. This is no longer a remote possibility at all. Start with the Democratic National Committee, which concocted the “Super Tuesday” primary day, thinking they would pick a winner early. Then, carried away with some arrogant sense of authority they did not have, they told Michigan and Florida that their primary results would not be honored at the convention. This disenfranchised two hugely important swing states.
Thank you, Chairman Dean, for that one.
Then the Obama phenomenon happened. He is a self-made candidate of the highest order. His oratory is outstanding, and he has found a way to “game” the primary process successfully. Most of his speeches are of the high school graduation variety. They are filled with clichés about new beginnings, going forward to a better tomorrow, and are fattened with lofty quotes from John Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr. and Tom Jefferson.
There is very little substance. His patented stump speech is classic demagoguery: emotional, optimistic and vague enough so that listeners can fill in the blanks with whatever they think they want to hear and imagine that he said it.
Gaming the primaries also required skill. He played his race card well. First, he has convinced too much of the press that any criticism from Sen. Clinton concerning his inexperience or his lack of specific programs is somehow a “negative attack,” but he must be allowed to say anything he wants about her and not be held to any standard of negativity.
Likewise, he has concentrated on winning primaries in states with significant black voting populations that are not going to be won by any Democrat in November, no matter who they are. Alabama, Kanas and Georgia come to mind.
The political lemmings that flock to Obama based on his “momentum” must look inside the numbers. As of today, Clinton has won the popular vote in states with 205 electoral votes. 134 of these are in solidly Democrat states that either she or Obama will win. Obama has won states with 189 electoral votes, but only 58 of them are in solidly Democrat states. The other 131 are from states that are either “in play,” or states that no Democrat will win, i.e. Utah and Idaho.
There are a lot of smoke and mirrors in the mystique. Clinton and Obama are struggling to win delegates in Texas and Ohio to nail their nominations, but both of these states went Republican in 2004. For either Democrat to win in Texas there will have to be a 24 percent turnaround. Ohio seems to be totally in play.
The Democrats may have painted themselves into a losing corner with their exciting, but misleading, primary. The states in play are almost all either shiny red states or “purple” states with a mix of red and blue voters. These are states with conservative social practices entrenched, and also where the war and overt patriotism are not suspect. These states are the home states of the regular combat divisions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Michelle Obama’s proud statement that she has never, until now, been proud of her country will not play well there.
In order to nominate Obama the Democrats have to suspend belief in reality. Sen. Clinton has shown she can carry the states in the electoral votes needed to win. Her credentials are based on hard experience, not wishful thinking. The Democrats can’t afford to ignore her ability, experience and toughness to nominate anyone else. Sen. McCain hopes they will.”


Wait Wait Don't Tell Me (which has had Obama, McCain, Huckabee, and even Lynn Cheney) is far cooler. Can Clinton possibly not have NPR listeners on her staff?


I for one am getting sick and tired of this crazy election campaign. All the money that is spent could go to better use. What do you think the children are thinking about all of this?


Wow, a good gig for her, SNL will give her a forum where she can attack BHO without him retorting(sp?). He usually beats her ass head-to-head. Her and Tina Fay must be excited.


Who knows who she is going to meet. With a record like this, could be anyone.

Let us not forget the crime statistics associated with the last Clinton administration:


Crime Stats:

- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122

Forgetful Clinton "friends":

Number of times that Clinton figures who testified in court or before Congress said that they didn't remember, didn't know, or something similar.

Hillary Clinton 250.
Bill Kennedy 116
Harold Ickes 148
Ricki Seidman 160
Bruce Lindsey 161
Bill Burton 191
Mark Gearan 221
Mack McLarty 233
Neil Egglseston 250
John Podesta 264
Jennifer O'Connor 343
Dwight Holton
348 Patsy Thomasson 420
Jeff Eller 697

Folks, this is a the prefect example of the old adage, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, chances are, it is, indeed, a duck.

Will Americans vote for a person that has such close associations with fraud and crime and fugitives?

Hillary can claim all she wants that there is some vast right wing conspiracy against her, but if her actions didn't warrant such close scrutiny then what would this vast conspiracy have to use against her?

She believes the statement alone, the words "vast right wing conspiracy" is a get out of jail free card for her to accept questionable donations, be associated with fugitives and criminals, have a fugitive host her campaign fund raisers and to claim under oath 250 times that she couldn't remember, didn't know or something along those lines.

If the Democrats are foolish enough to make Hillary the nominated candidate for presidency, that is the best news the GOP could ever get.


Here's the link to the CNN report, it's on their political ticker blog.


SNL shouldn't take sides in this debate - they may risk losing more audiences.

It was too obvious from last week's show that who SNL was supporting. After all, it's "live from NEW YORK". No wonder they would support the NY senator.


HRC is on a mission. A secret mission. With a secret outcome. A BIG SURPRIZE when it becomes known....

Suffer! All you Obama boyz and girlz...SUFFER!

You'll be sorreeeeeeeee.


Why is the media so obsessed with Obama? When he was missing in a lot of official businesses as a senator the press looked the other way. When Hilary did not show up in her own campaign plane, the media made a big deal about it. Give her a break


bronellone: The country is is ruin and flames! There's no food! No water! Storm troopers patrol the rubble-strewn streets! Bush wants to destroy all life! EEEEEK! Wait a second... deep breath, everyone. USA is strong and secure, still the land of opportunity. We're only electing a president, not a god. He or she will not save us. Calm down, go to a house of worship, hug your kids. Sheesh!


Will Americans vote for a person that has such close associations with fraud and crime and fugitives?

Give Obama a chance, he'll build up his resume over time. He's already managed to make the acquaintance of his dear friend, named Tony Rezko.

But thanks for helping us play the game of Where in the world is Hillary.

Not going to jail. I'll tell you that much.


Melvyn,

Give her a break? I'll give her a break when she submits her white-water-ass tax returns for the public.


Senator Clinton is under no obligation to report her whereabouts to the media. These people should get over themselves, and get a life. Ms. Clinton needs some personal time without these annoying people who only look for negative things. The headline itself is negative. She's spent a lot of time in Ohio.

(Swamp note: and now she's in New York)


She thinks there is still life after March 4th and she's trying increase her visibility in the general election. She's really hurting the party. It's mathematically improbable for her to win in delegates and she just wants to drag this thing on and on.

Ours is not the SNL culture, I think the Clintons are trying to deja vu the 90s.


At least she won't be able to keep complaining about her unfair coverage if she gets the free SNL gig.


"Number of times that Clinton figures who testified in court or before Congress said that they didn't remember, didn't know, or something similar.

Hillary Clinton 250."


Why would we want a woman who ALREADY HAS Alzheimer's to be elected to office?


nigel,

Obama isn't going to jail either, unless you can provide proof of such. Taking contributions to one's campaign hardly makes you a criminal. How does "fraud and crime and fugitives" relate to Obama? The Clintons are so squeaky clean they are not publishing their tax returns...must be an oversight. She is desperate, so are you. By the way, love you in Elton John's band.


Resume' for the next President (God Help Us).....

Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the most qualified candidate for president based on her 'record,' which she says includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or 'co-president' - and her seven years in the Senate. Here is a reminder of what that record includes: - As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Patrick Moynihan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would 'demonize' anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party. (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.)

Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations, Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood, were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. She then chose Janet Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as 'my worst mistake.' - Hillary recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to be withdrawn.

Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.

Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (“Filegate”) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in 1996, both the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving seven presidents for over thirty years.

In order to open “slots” in the White House for her friends the Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for 'gross mismanagement' and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours.

Another of Hillary's assumed duties was directing the 'bimbo eruption squad' and scandal defense: ---- She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. ---- She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs. ---- Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all. ---- And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury ---- And Bill was impeached by the House. ---- And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice (she avoided it mostly because she repeated, 'I do not recall,' 'I have no recollection,' and 'I don't know' 56 times under oath). - Hillary wrote 'It Takes a Village,' demonstrating her Socialist viewpoint.

Hillary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state she had never lived in. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get financial support. - Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen. - In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the 'woman card' by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on her. - Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records.)

As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11. - Hillary's one notable vote; supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed.

Quite a resume’. Sounds more like an organized crime family’s rap sheet.


Hey Ann B.aby, neither can win enough delegates without the supers. Haven't you been listening?


At least she won't be able to keep complaining about her unfair coverage if she gets the free SNL gig.

Yes, Chris. Talk to me when the Swamp does a write up on the event....

Ours is not the SNL culture, I think the Clinton's are trying to deja vu the 90s.

Yes, Ann. And as evidence I sever you Obama and the SNL Halloween show....

I like how the Swamp gave props to one of it's own readers. You guys do have a heart...


How is it hurting the party if she's continuing to campaign. If she and others believe that she's the best candidate...then they're exercising their democratic right to express that.

As for settling for a candidate because he or she's got more delegates, that's irresponsible of the voter the the party to say its divisive.


Clinton and McCain represent so much dysfunctional status quo that much of the nation is ready to throw the "baby" (more like a snake, actually) out with the bath water. Like so many I see the status quo, Republican (creepy beyond belief) and Democratic (yuk), as simply unsustainable. Enter Barak -- there is a message and an intelligence not seen since Kennedy. (Reagan did some nice B-movie acting, but as much damage as good if not more.) CHANGE is the word...I can't wait, and no it won't be easy. But, it won't feel this hopelessly stupid either (less, than 11 months and the Cheney-Bush...it's the creepy old one who runs the show, right?...White House will be done!)


tressels sweater vest,

I know, it's hard. Not everything is about Obama. That last commnet was for the guy facing the feds. Obama is desperate, and so are you. Oh and Jim wants his Sweater Vest back.


Enter Barak -- there is a message and an intelligence not seen since Kennedy.

Ah yes. Bush Jr did a lot of borrowing from JFK works too. Beacon of light.


Take a look at Yahoo Questions.

I asked if Obama gives you Hope?
People, said No. Accept Obama supporters said I hope Hillary &%#*
Why is it polls say Obama's supporters are more educated. I think that is a fake poll.

On Yahoo questions Hillary supporters ask inteligent questions and all Obama supporters do is either trash Hillary with nonsense or say she voted for the Iraq war.

Then I saked if Obama United Us, and everyone said No.

Obama is a man who did not have the patience to spend a few years in the Senate proving himself, so now he's out there saying a different message to every audience. In TX he says he will unite Democrats and Republicans. He claims to be a Christian and many believe he leaked his own turban photo for publicity and send a clear message he is also Muslim. So what? My problem wioth it all is all the double-talk and disinformation, while he claims Hillary is telling people one thing here and another there, she is not. Her messages are clear and consistant.

The problem is Obama has a wonderful education but does nor have good judgment. He thinks because at first he got away the first few times, with "crying fire, then saying she did it, she went that way" he can keep doing it. The difference is at first Hillary was easy on him because he's another Democrat and now she realizes Obama is out to crush Hillary, and if he wins and loses, so what, at least he got a run at the presidency.

Obama does not give me hope. I already had Hope and Faith and change happens Every day. Hillary has been a US Senator for 8 years, and although Obama supporters are saying her only experience is as Bill's wife, that "Just Aint the Truth".

Hillary has been forced to tell it like it is about Obama, and stop protecting him. Obama is a man who just couldn't wait to develop a track record of accomplishments before seeking the biggest job in the world and he's using every underhanded strategy, to try and get there, or at least a shot at it.

In the General election people will surely vote Experience over Obama's claims of bringing Hopr and Change we can believe in. He is surely not uniting anyone accept his supporters, and people are cating onto the double-talk. If this looks like a tough fight, it's because Obama is playing dirty and at the same time claiming that is what Hillary is doing.

As a Democrat it's very frustrating because Obama is about Obama he doesn't care about the Democratic party, and probably knows if he get's the nomination MCain will surely wins. All he seems to be focuses on is Crush Hillary and advance my career. If I don't make it to the Presidency this time there's always next time, or maybe when Hillary wins the nomination, he'll switch to being a Democrat and ask McCain to be his VP. I would not put anything past Obama.

This is not what I'd call good Judgement or change I can believe in.


I bet she'll be a riot. I mean after that "the skys will part" Obama rant. Well the mind reels. We know she can play lots of different characters, after all she's been doing a great Sybil routine of late. I just wonder which of her many personallities is the real Hillary Clinton?


"How is it hurting the party if she's continuing to campaign." --Emmeline

The insult every voter strategy. Already they've threatened to sue Texas to prevent them releasing election results. If Ohio goes to Obama then they won't count either. If you want people to vote in November, it's time to quiet the messages of "You don't count. No one counts. Who cares about the pledged delegates--the stupid voters select them."

"Hey Ann B.aby, neither can win enough delegates without the supers. Haven't you been listening?"--RFB

Thanks for illustrating my point. The new Clinton meme "the delegates selected by mere voters don't matter," is not going to endear voters to her. Or to the Democratic party. (Technically Obama could get enough pledged delegates with blowout victories in the remaining contests, and Clinton can't.) Also, the flood of superdelegates to carry her away from all the pesky defeats isn't materializing--possibly because the Super rationale, to save the party from a candidate a small fervid branch of Ds want, but who doesn't attract Independents or Rs and can't win the general, is working.


Who watchs SNL anyway. Yawn. Boring Zzzzz...


Ummmm?

If Hillary comes from behind and wins...will you lefties submit your vitiate posts and support her??

Just wondering...

Paulo


Cute, but does SNL really not know the election in Russia was for President, not Prime Minister? I thought it was going to be a lead-in for 'Clinton' to correct the 'moderator' to make up for her 'whatever' moment in the actual debate.


I can't believe that SNL Funhouse skit. It portrayed Obama in an uncle tom light thought that was insane. Liberals do hidden racism so well. Go McCain


Terry McAuliffe is running the show. No wonder she's tanking. The DNC kicked him to the curb.


That was a great commentary for Hilary to make... going up to NY to be on Saturday Night Live.... It just proved a point that the media is being agregious aganst The Clinton Campaign and they wont stand for it! Hillary will win in the end... and that SNL Funhouse sit was dead-on! It is the truth... people are going around thinking they are beign racist for not supporting Obama so they better do it... but Obama is the one injecting race into it!


The description of tonight's SNL is in March 2, 2008 NYT. I find it very funny.
The bias against Hillary has been so obvious.
The last time people wanted a fresh face in politics we got W.


NBC's Lisa Myers and Jim Popkin report that Hillary Clinton has declined to return $170,000 in campaign contributions from individuals at a company accused of widespread sexual harassment, and whose CEO is a disbarred lawyer with a criminal record, federal campaign records show. The federal government has accused the Illinois management consulting firm, International Profit Associates, or IPA, of a brazen pattern of sexual harassment including "sexual assaults," "degrading anti-female language" and "obscene suggestions." Sen. Clinton's spokesman, Howard Wolfson, told NBC News in a statement that the senator decided to keep the funds because the lawsuit is "ongoing" and because none of the sexual harassment allegations has been proven in court." This is the usual Camp Clinton Hypocrisy Spin. And what National Security Experience Does She Really Have?

Hillary Clinton has no Credibility on national security since she cast her Yes vote to authorize war in Iraq. There where other Senators who voted NO! They knew to vote yes was to automatically Invade a Country that had nothing to do with 911 but all about OIL. That is not Judgment and it is the wrong kind of Experience. Some say who know that she and Bill have the agenda to get Bill a III, Presidency, that should not be allowed. It was Bill who spoke first after their loss in South Carolina!


Ummmm?

If Hillary comes from behind and wins...will you lefties submit your vitiate posts and support her??

Just wondering...

Paulo

Posted by: Paulo | March 1, 2008 11:22 PM

You better believe it hominid wanna be. If Mike Huckabee ever withdraws form the republican campaign will you admit the world is round?

Obama or Hillary in 2008!


That was a great commentary for Hilary to make... going up to NY to be on Saturday Night Live.... It just proved a point that the media is being agregious aganst The Clinton Campaign and they wont stand for it! Hillary will win in the end...

Posted by: Stan Grose | March 2, 2008 12:40 AM

Stan, we're going to have to start a twelve step program just for you fanatical Clinton supporters. DENIAL. It's not a river in Egypt!!!

By the way Stan check out my band 12 Step and The Enablers coming to a democratic convention or AA meeting near you!!!

We will play for republicans as well but at an additional cost, because you guys are WAY MESSED UP!!!

By way of disclosure, we support Senator Barack Obama from the great state of Illinois. And yes we play Barack and Roll!!!

Obama for president.


A Must Read For Hillary.

Look at the horrible crap that this Obama website is saying about Mrs. Clinton. She should be made aware of this as soon as possible before the entire campaign falls off the cliff because of the rotten lies on this blog called www.matrix-evolutions.com. It starts with:

We endorse Barack Obama as the next president of the United States.
This is the most important election America will ever have, possibly the last if Obama is not elected.

The Revolutionary Party derives its politics from the equation for evolution we have imprinted on the flag. This function, which underpins our thinking, has been accepted by science for the last eighty years and we trust in it as well as true religious believers trust in God. Mathematics doesn’t lie. An analysis based on the equation indicates that the so-called war on terror will inexorably ratchet up to world war, a genuinely terrifying thought given a world heavily armed with nuclear weapons. For that reason we support Barack Obama as the only real anti-war candidate.

Hillary? In our opinion, she is the more all round competent candidate and has been upended by Obama to a great degree because he is trim and youthfully enthusiastic. But before Hillary came Bill, which should cause us to stop and think.

The value of our mathematics based analysis lies in its ability to objectively distinguish between the good guys and the bad guys. The technical aspects of the analysis make it slow reading for those without a science background, so we will give its conclusions first here and save the detailed reasoning for later.

Put simply, the Clintons are what is known in the political science textbooks as populists, those who achieve political success by playing to the people, to their needs and pains and wants. But there is a difference between patter and delivery. We are all familiar with artificial soda. The Clintons are like an artificial banana split, very likable, but with no real food value.

Recall President Clinton and his first lady. During their tenure America’s favorite political couple sang a song of health care delivery, but delivered rather on prison construction and on the number of police put on the streets. The Pew Report that came out the end of February said that one American in a hundred is locked up in a prison or jail. To put this into better perspective, the report said that America has 7 million people in jail or otherwise under the control of the penal system. This is 16 times more per capita than the communist People’s Republic of China, where, we are told, there is no freedom or human rights. Clinton legislature took America to the highest prison population in the world, a statistic historically associated with police states like Stalinist Russia and apartheid South Africa. This is not to say that America is a police state, of course, for if it were you’d have heard about it on the evening news.

Also notably absent in the media is another creation of the Clintons, the near million homeless people that wander the streets of Sacramento and Las Vegas and our other big cities. This sharp upsurge in homelessness came about inarguably as a result of Clinton legislature that ended LBJ’s war on poverty by terminating effective social protections for out of work people, something many more will become more familiar with as the stock market collapses from the cost of the war and the recession takes hold in full force.

What the Clintons did with prisons and police and welfare protection and NAFTA and failed to do with health care very much pleased the moneyed class and the conservatives. Our technical analysis objectively shows the Republican social and fiscal conservatives to be bad guys because their relationship to the working class and middle class is basically that of master to servant. This fact is also muted by populist politicians like the Clintons whose tax returns, were they to be made public, would show that they are members in good standing of the moneyed class too.

This deep secret of class control and abuse is also kept under wraps by the media, whose personalities are hired and controlled by the moneyed class. Other than the few raisins stirred into in the poison muffin of TV to make it seem fair, media people who don’t keep the secret of class control and the unhappiness of most of us that derives from it don’t last long on their jobs or are not hired to begin with.

The ones who do make the cut endlessly spout the lies of the so-called American Dream in one form or another. The power of the media to control people’s thoughts and actions in conformity with American ideology is difficult to assess for people who get their information primarily from the media, which is most people. This power of media to control thinking was dramatically illustrated towards the end of WWII in Germany just before the fall of Berlin as the Allied and Russian troops converged on the city. Most Germans even in those final moments still believed Hitler’s media propaganda that they were still winning the war.

In our own times, hidden by the media from public sight are facts about life readily observable even by doing something as simple as riding public transportation. Here the observer notes that the common people are unhappy, fear and personal failure showing clearly on their faces and in their behaviors. This effect of control and abuse in the workplace and at school is not made clear from TV where all the media personalities act through their endlessly smiling and bubbly days to show to the audience that America really is a happy place, the steady stream of mass murders in schools, workplaces and malls not able to be kept out of the news notwithstanding.

And much as the ugly facts of our present existence are air brushed out in the media, so also is the future we realistically face. Not made clear is that the dollar is fast becoming as worthless as the paper it is printed on to keep the war going. Or that the stock market and the housing market will soon halve their value giving those who have been spared homelessness and jail to date a taste of these hells on earth firsthand. The Clintons will not care because they are a part of the apparatus that brought us to where we are at in America today.

Hillary should be given credit for being an ambitious and a profoundly adept social climber and a very talented actress, our American Evita. We have no problem applauding her for her personal successes. But she is never going to go against the wishes of the money class that created her and Bill and supported these two as their adorable political puppets. She will not stop this war.

Yes, she says she will, despite her voting for the war. And, of course, there are those of you that think that Hillary would never lie to us. But Bill said he would never lie to us, too. And he said it so well that I yet don’t believe he lied to us about Monica. Monica who? She never existed. That is how good an actor Bill is. And this suggests that his mate is no less of a self-serving liar.

Of course, transgressions are relative. Yes, the flag pin wearing conservatives are more disgusting than the Clintons. Who of us is not totally revulsed by the smell of a public rest room emanating from the Bible squeezing, boy hustling conservative senator from Idaho caught with his pants down? Nobody has caught Bill at something that viscerally gross yet. Still, what character is there in a first family when the head of the most powerful nation on earth sticks a penile object, not even his own, up some college kid’s vagina? If the Clinton presidency were a movie, they would not be playing the Star Spangled Banner in the background during that particular scene.

And to be completely and totally unkind – and very logical -- doesn’t it make you wonder about the guy’s wife? Really, does any intelligent female over the age of 22 think that Hillary actually felt bad about Bill and Monica? Judging from the observable obvious that Bill is no more than Hillary’s showboat, the best educated guess is that is Hillary is lesbian, a married one, not that unusual in modern America. If Hillary was mad about anything with Monica, it was that she didn’t get a shot at her too. Watch one of Hillary’s girlfriends surfacing soon to clarify Hillary’s preference as to penile object.

The smiling Clintons are so phony and so odd in this area that one would not be surprised to find that the unconfident Chelsea Clinton developed as such as a result of some form of child abuse. Chelsea does not look happy. Neglect by the Clintons is hardly to be overlooked as this ambitious pair had better things to pay attention to in their furious political rise to the top than their daughter. And sexual abuse is not to be totally ruled out either given Bill’s sexual tastes.

The best bet to end the war and end our American style police state is to vote for Barack Obama. Not for Hillary, who is sufficiently self-serving and devious that one would not be surprised to see her team up with Huckabee on a national reconciliation ticket to satisfy her political ambition. Hopefully Obama will not be removed by the ruling class by assassination or some such stratagem. But if so, and we dearly hope not, the Revolutionary Party is ready to offer a sensible replacement candidate. If enough people get in touch to say they are interested, I did run for President in 2000 as a write-in candidate and would consider it again. But only in the event that Obama is derailed by the conservatives, which we very much fear because these people would do anything to retain power....

Please quick tell somebody on Hillary’s campaign staff what is going on with these trashy Obama sites.
Martha Turner


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