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Posted March 2, 2008 1:33 PM
The Swamp

by John McCormick

NELSONVILLE, Ohio – If he was trying to appeal to the working-class residents of Ohio's Appalachia region, it did not look like it, at least on the surface.

In a region long economically depressed, Sen. Barack Obama's first event Sunday did not have the stereotypical blue-collar feel one typically associates with political events in such locations.

The 100 or so invited guests were well dressed, there was little talk about trade or union issues, and classical music (including the "Wedding March") played before and after his appearance.

There even was a multimillionaire in the room: Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), who endorsed Obama late last week.

Obama, meanwhile, talked about the future, not the past, as he argued for clean-energy technology and again stressed his religious practices to counter Internet-driven rumors that he is not Christian.

In his introduction, Rockefeller showered Obama with praise that even surpassed the highly flattering tributes he typically gets from those who serve as his warm-up acts.

"We grew up in different circumstances," Rockefeller started. "My life was a little easier than his."

Rockefeller said Obama's life experiences have prepared him for both domestic and international matters. "I've always had a feeling that true leaders understand the people they lead and the only way to do that is to be amongst them," he said.

Rockefeller said Obama's ability to inspire would help him fight for the nation's poor.

"The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer," he said. "They need someone they can look to who they trust, who is calm, who has incredible judgment and who is brilliant. The word brilliant is used all the time about Barack Obama and it ought to be used everyday by everybody."

Saying his position as chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee puts him in a position to "pretty much know what's going on in every part of the world all the time," Rockefeller said he often saw Obama taking the time to study intelligence briefings in greater detail than most senators. He said he believes he is capable of the "nuanced judgments" necessary for a successful foreign policy.

Rockefeller said he sees Obama's poise when he starts taking "incoming fire" in candidate debates.

"You and I might react differently," he said. "He's always calm. In no way, misinterpret that to think that he's weak…He just is unflappable because he knows himself, because of his brilliance and because of his belief in doing the right thing for America."

Obama made a very brief visit to Rockefeller's state last night, spending the night at a Holiday Inn Express in Mineralwells, a newer hotel that was situated between a strip club and adult bookstore.

With solar panels outside and a flexible-fuel car parked near his podium, Obama spoke at length about the possibilities of a clean-energy economy.

Obama took note of a shoe and boot manufacturer that shut down in the town several years ago, saying that 177 jobs were lost and "many of them were shipped overseas."

Still, Obama said he was "hopeful" about the town's future because they are looking to technology, including alternative energy and fuel cells, for growth.

"What you’re doing, here, is what Americans have always done in times of challenge and times uncertainty: you’re standing up to say that your destiny will not be written for you, but by you," he said. "You’re reclaiming your own future."

Obama repeated his plan for a $150 billion fund over 10 years to boost the green energy sector.

"I’ll pass a law that says 25 percent of our electricity has to come from renewable energy sources by 2025, which will spur the development of new technologies and could create hundreds of thousands of new jobs on its own," he said.

Countering suggestions that he is some kind of policy romantic, Obama said his ideas are not "pie in the sky" and noted the nation has in the past made huge investments in its infrastructure.

With coalfields nearby, Obama noted that he comes from a coal state and repeated his pitch for clean-coal technology and made clear he believes coal will continue to be a vital part of the nation's energy supply.

"Clean-coal technology should be part of that mix," he said. "We are the Saudi Arabia of coal."

Obama maintained that the United States could profit from developing clean-coal technology and then licensing the techniques to other nations like China and India. "This could actually end up being an export," he said.

Asked about his faith, Obama said it is a topic that has been subject to "so much confusion that has been deliberately perpetrated." He was referring to Internet rumors that he is a Muslim.

"I pray to Jesus every night, try to go to church as much as I can when they're not working me," he said. "I used to go quite often. These days…I haven't been home on Sunday for several months now."

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I'm not sure about Barack's church or religion, but many Christian places of worship are open throughout the week.

You don't even have to be a member to attend a service.

I'd suggest he not use the excuse that he's been out of town on most Sundays.

As for clean-coal technology, it's a good idea but presidents generally don't determine technological advancements - which is the weakness of the Clinton argument.

Without the advancements in technology that preceded and overran the Clinton years, the economy certainly would not have burned so hot during the '90s. The '90s by most accounts rivaled the industrial revolution 100 years ago and neither Clinton nor anyone else in government had much to do with it.

Similarly, no one in government is going to be able to stop the globalization of the world economy. The best the government can do is make sure the playing field is as level as possible.

On that score, the government (through NAFTA and other trade agreements) has failed miserably, as anyone who has breathed the air in countries as far and wide as Mexico and China can attest.


New Obama Endorsement

The Evolutionary Party endorses Barack Obama as the next president of the United States.
This is the most important election America will ever have, possibly the last if Barack Obama is not elected.

The Evolutionary Party derives its politics from an equation for evolution that has been in the textbooks for the last eighty years. A mathematical elaboration of it supported by data ranging from chemical kinetics to the evening news indicates that our “war on terror” is slowly but surely escalating to World War III, a truly terrifying thought. For that reason we support Barack Obama, the only real anti-war candidate.

The value of our unusual mathematical political analysis lies in its being able to differentiate between the skunks and the citizens. The media people are skunks. If they don’t watch what they say and do, they don’t last long. The ones who make the cut spout the American ideology in one form or another. These include the full spectrum of television and movie actors, including the politicians and the newscasters. In the days just before the fall of Berlin, the German citizens had still been told that they were winning the war. Our dollar is becoming as worthless as the paper money we print so furiously to keep the lunatic Christian war against the Muslims, the fundamentalist crusade, going. The stock market and the housing market will halve their value. The fellow up at the top is a little lord Fauntleroy, emotionally perverse and skilled at acting otherwise. Pity us all if his group are not deposed. These loonies fiddle while the farm burns down, with the rest of us, the citizens, locked in the barn.

And Hillary? Before Hillary came Bill. Let us recall Bill Clinton and his lovely first lady with a clear eye. This all smiling couple sang their song of health care so sweetly to the public but delivered, not on an increase in medical protection, but an increase in prison building and in the number of police roaming the streets, federally paid, looking for a reason to hassle the public and put those who get annoyed rather than cowed into one of those new Clinton prisons. The Pew report of a few days back said that one American in one hundred is locked up in a prison or jail. To put it into clearer perspective, we have 7 million people in jail or otherwise under the control of our penal system, sixteen times more than the communist People’s Republic of China, where they have no freedom or human rights.

And we accepted all this totalitarian governance with good advertising because it came from such a nice American couple with such nice fake smiles. Hillary, show us that your showboat is something other than a total fake.

What the Clintons did very much pleased the conservatives, who believe in lock ‘em up law and order because our laws are made by and for the eternal betterment of the moneyed class in America. What the Clintons did took America to the highest per-capita prison population in the world, a statistic historically associated with police states like Stalinist Russia and apartheid South Africa. No, the Evolutionary Party is not saying that America is a police state, if it were, you’d have heard about it on the evening news.

The Clinton presidency also ended social protection for out of work people, again quite pleasing the conservatives. The Clintons ended Lyndon Baines Johnson’s war on poverty and put all the homeless people you don’t see on TV onto the streets of Las Vegas and Sacramento where they are as thick as flies and can’t be missed unless you are blind. As some in the media actually are. Have you ever noticed Carol Costello’s eyes? Right out of the Stepford Wives. She is blind. You are sure of that by what she and the rest of the show your tits newscasters don’t say. Nothing that you actually see on the streets of America and on its busses and in its workplaces is ever talked about on TV.

And you have to wonder who Carol is banging for in the front office. We are not picking on her for that reason, though. Working women all across America have to fuck for their bosses, one way or another, to get ahead in life. So it is very unlikely that Carol is alone as a CNN down on her knees newscastrix. No, we are picking on Carol and on Anderson Cooper and on the rest of the well paid greasy mouths on TV for not seeing the more stark realities we lesser people have to live with.

And to all you middle class who don’t care if the Clintons brought us the hoards of homeless beggars that don’t exist in your life, don’t turn your head so soon. It could be you and your family next. Either as one of the homeless, when the economic realities of our trillion dollar war rob you of your job and retirement savings when the market crashes. Or as a victim of the homeless when their rage at being kicked by the police on top of being starved reaches the mass murder point. As it has in a number of other sectors in America where control is abusive, as at work and in our well policed schools.

On a lighter note, Hillary does have a few things she can be proud of. She is a most talented actress and a profoundly adept social climber, our American Evita. But whatever Hillary’s personal accomplishments, she is never going to go against the wishes of the money class that created her and Bill and supported them as their adorable political puppets. Hillary would not show her tax returns, as Obama asked, because they would show the largess showered on the Clintons by the moneyed class. No, Hillary is not going to stop this war, whatever she may say to get elected and star her next movie: Figurehead President II.

Of course, there are those of you that think that Hillary would never lie to us. Bill said he would never lie to us. And he said it so well that I yet don’t believe he lied to us about Monica. Monica who? That is how good an actor Bill is. He’s even a better actor than Brad Pitt. One night Bill crawled into Angelina’s bedroom in Beverly Hills with a cigar in his mouth. Hey, Angelina, he said, my wife’s going to run for president this year. Open your legs and give us your vote. Pass the popcorn, please. It’ll be another four years of that movie, but with Hillary smoking the cigar.

Of course, transgressions are relative. Who is not totally revulsed by the smell of a public rest room fused to the Bible squeezing, boy hustling conservative senator from Idaho? Nobody has caught Bill at that yet. Still, what character is there in a first family when the head of the most powerful nation on earth sticks a penile object, not even his own, up some college kid’s vagina? If this were a movie, would they play the Star Spangled Banner during this scene?

And doesn’t it make you wonder about the guy’s wife? Does any sane female over the age of 22 really think Hillary felt bad about Bill and Monica? Behind all the media hype that protects those who help control the little people, you have to wonder:

A.) Is Hillary is lesbian, a married one, not that unusual in modern America. If Hillary was mad about anything with Monica, it was that she didn’t get a shot at her too. Watch one of Hillary’s lovers surface soon to clarify her tastes as to penile object.

B.) The smiling Clintons are so phony and so slimy underneath that one would not be surprised to find that the inarguably unconfident and possibly mildly retarded Chelsea Clinton was the product of her pervert parents abusing her when she was four years old, the age she seems to be stuck in. Certainly there is as much truth in this outrageous conjecture as the Clintons being good people because they go to church on Sunday. No, what the Clintons are is not good, but likable. Likable is a banana split. You just like how it tastes. You don’t need a reason. The Clintons are an imitation banana split, very likeable, like artificial sweetener that causes cancer eight years down the line.

You can trust what a Clinton says like you can trust what a Bush says. That whole family, George I, George II, Lady Barbara and Lady Laura, are all great actors too. And isn’t it interesting that the Bush daughters, Jenna and what’s her name, are as unconfident and inept as Chelsea. Makes you wonder if Bush uses a cigar too. But on Lady Laura, the Virgin Mary of conservatives?

True, this skit by the one writer’s guild writer who didn’t get rehired is a bit insane. But there are a lot of people around today that are actually insane, not the least of whom are the conservatives, all of which are unbalanced emotionally because of their castration in childhood from the pains of physical punishment and strict obedience. They are inherently defective however much their endless charades from Senate podiums and on Fox News try to hide it. And dangerous when they have weapons in their grasp.

If you want the war and the police state to end, vote for Barack Obama. Not for Hillary, who is so self-serving and devious that you wouldn’t be surprised if she teamed up with Huckabee as VP on a national reconciliation ticket. Or some such curve ball the moneyed class would use to block Obama from getting in and ending our descent into irreversible totalitarianism and worldwide war. Hopefully Obama will not be removed by assassination.

Who are we to say such dark things? We are the Evolutionary Party at www.matrix-evolutions.com.
Dr. and Mrs. Peter V. Calabria


Bud: Before the campaign, he was usually home on the weekends with his family (and constituents), where he attended Sunday services. Even if his church had midweek services (and I have no idea), he was back in Washington then. Campaigning he's rarely home. What's wrong with praying? What public religious observances will we require of Sen Clinton and McCain?

I wish we could ignore every candidate's religion, but I've seen the spammers insisting he trained at a secret madrassah (and not just Bob Kerrey), so I guess we're stuck with it.


At least Barack goes to church.

Hillary just prays she'll make it through this Tuesday.


Bud McFarlin ,people don't just attend any church!McCain has been endorsed by an evangelical who believes catholic are evils...If I'm in Texas should I attend his church just because he uses the name of Jesus?We are all christians but do worship Christ differently thus the great number of denominations!


For the Life of me I cannot understand why any intelligent person would pick a known back room dealer who is hip deep in the pocket of lobbiests over a candidate that wants transparent government wherein the people can have a say. Both candidates have almost identical views on the issues so we have to look at their backgrounds to make an intelligent determination - thus I again am puzzled why we would choose to vote for a person who has a boxcar of divisive, negative baggage over a candidate who is honest and has integrity - Vote Obama on March 4.


To Bud McFarlin:
He did say he prays to Jesus every night. No need to attend church for that. Jesus himself didn't attend any churches. He spend his time delivering his message to the people. Faith without works.....


Presidents can and often do determine technological advancements. Two classic examples of the quantum leap in technology that follows a strong presidential push are the manhattan project and the space race.


I think a sucessful politician is like a sucessful sales rep. Mr. Obama has not only sold his vision and hope to the american people, but has also inspired all sides of the political arena. he has displayed the talent and quality of a true leader which in my view can fill the shoes as the U.S. commander and cheif.


I think the point being made, regarding church, etc. is the fact that just because you are religious doesn't mean you have to go to church every Sunday. I consider myself to be religious, but am of the belief that we shouldn't have to go to this specific building to pray to Jesus and God. I should be able to from my home, my car, the beach, or anywhere else, within reason. the only reason the church demands our appearance is to hit us up for money. Now, don't get me wrong, I understand and respect that other people have differing views which make them want to attend church services every weekend and that is fine. Many need the support it affords. But I think it is disheartening when people attack somebody just because they choose to pray in a different place.


Bud,
Obama has been attending churches all over the country doing the campaign.

He is commended for staying for the whole service and not just running from church to church for a few words


yeah, right.


Since Senator Boy Wonder wants to unilateraly "renegotiate NAFTA" and yank Canadian Oil off the table, he better come up with some other energy alternative:

http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/307513


I wish we could ignore every candidate's religion, but I've seen the spammers insisting he trained at a secret madrassah (and not just Bob Kerrey), so I guess we're stuck with it.

Posted by: Deborah | March 2, 2008 3:21 PM

To Deb and others,

On this we agree.

My point is, don't say you've been away from home on Sundays.

As a practicing Catholic, I'd find a church close to where I was.

If I weren't Catholic or if there weren't any Catholic churches around, I'd still go to a church (if "church going" were an issue to me).

I'd just as soon Barack and others leave the "church" issue alone, too. But don't make it sound as if Sundays are the only days one can attend church.

(Indeed, for the record I usually go on Saturday evenings, not Sundays.)


Obama goes to church on Sundays? Only to campaign there.

See, for example, the Swamp article of Jan. 20th of this year, reporting on a campaign speech Obama gave in an Atlanta church.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/by_john_mccormick_atlanta.html

Obama's a phony on religion as well as on other things.


To Terry: I take offense to your snide name "Senator Boy Wonder". Senator Barack Obama is 46 years old, the same age that Bill Clinton was in 1992 and older than JFK when sworn in. He has more experience in elected office than Hillary Clinton, and before that he was not just a community organizer, but also a civil rights attorney and Constitutional Law professor for the prestigious University of Chicago.

To Bud McFarlin: If Obama were to find a local church every Sunday to attend, all the news media would create such a circus that it would disrupt everyone else's worship. I'm sure he finds a quiet place every Sunday for prayer so that neither he nor anyone else will be disrupted.

You need look no further than how Obama's brilliant campaign has been run to see just how effective he could be as President. So before you go writing him off as a naive empty suit, please everyone do your homework. I did extensive research and found Obama to be the best candidate I've ever seen. Not just because he's inspiring, but because he has the substance to back it up.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/


Marbw, posted this yesterday. I’m reposting it here because it’s such a poignant clip that has gotten so little attention. It underlines the point that Senator Clinton has no answer to the charge that she's making against Senator Obama (a common theme the past 6 weeks). Voters who pay attention realize that despite all her slogans about her opponent (like "he's all rhetoric and no reality"), it's she who has nothing to back up her claims. Unfortunately for Senator Clinton, it appears that the "people who pay attention" is a growing demographic.

From the National Journal, March 1, 2008
“It was, in this reporter's opinion, the most interesting moment in today's Clinton campaign phoner with reporters. Responding to the release of HRC's new TX TV ad, which asserts in no subtle terms that only she has the experience to deal with a major world crisis, and, relatedly, to keep your children safe, Slate's John Dickerson asked the obvious question:
"What foreign policy moment would you point to in Hillary's career where she's been tested by crisis?" he said.

Silence on the call. You could've knit a sweater in the time it took the usually verbose team of Mark Penn, Howard Wolfson and Lee Feinstein, Clinton's national security director, to find a cogent answer. And what they came up with was weak -- that she's been endorsed by many high ranking members of the uniformed military.”
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/02/pregnant_pause.html


Give me a break. Obama tries to be all things to all people: he's Christan, He's Muslim, He's Balck, he's white. In Texas last week he said only he is THE ONE to change the country and bring Democtas and Republicans's together.

He's basically running a campaign based on Bush Sr's "KINDER GENTLER AMERICA" and offeres little more than Hope to figure out the Job later". Based on what?

At first I enjoyed listening to Obama and was impressed. Now all I hear is a bunch of slogans and double talk and whining about how Hillary is not being nice, while he slams her every chance he gets.

I'm not impressed with Obama anymore, and I certainly don't feel he has united US.

Hillary Impresses and Inspires me. The grace in which she has handled Obama's underhanded strategies, and all his smears, while calling fire, she went over there. She's realy proving her leadership under fire.

What really bugs me is when Obama supporters conveniently forget Hillary has been a respected Senator for 8 years; or thant since Obama came to the Senate he has voted for the Iraq war every time. If he was so against the war he could make a statement by not voting to fund the war -- again and again, but he doesn't.

Experience counts because talk can be cheap but action is something you can truly evaluate, and Obama is all talk no action.

He keeps saying Hillary needs to drop out, because he's scared that when he loses hios winning streak, and since everyone is tired of the same OLD EMPTY BORROWED WORDS AND COMMERCIALS he really isn't offering Democrats anything, and if he's whining now, if he was nominated McCain, who like Hillary has experience, would bring out the big guns. Hillary has been easy on Obama because he's another Democrat and Obama does not care, because he figures even if Democrats lose he's still made his point about how great he is.

I certainly don't want Obama as President, and won't have to worry because Hillary will win, if not our President will surely be McCain.


Cuba just got a 'new' (very experienced) Castro. Russia just got a 'new' Putin (Medvedev). The U.S. should fall into line now and get a 'new' Clinton?


Trish G - like I care if you take offense.

His experience in Illinois was voting "present quite a bit" and a lot of quanity, but not much quantity in his 3 years in the Senate of which he has spent one running for president.

Look at the Obama link you provided and compare that to the link I will provide and tell me what teh substantial differences are between the canidates.

http://www.votebrianmoore.com/


You need to do more research on Obama with regard to the war in Iraq. Senator Obama is telling everyone that he would be right from day one in the White House because he would never have voted to go to war with Iraq. He also mentioned in the last Democratic debate that once he pulls out the US troops from Iraq, if there were problems again with Al-Qaeda, he would do whatever it took and make sure Americans were safe. That would include sending our troops back to Iraq if he, as president, deemed it necessary. Didn’t President Bush deem it necessary? How is Obama’s approach different? There have been other people that have visited Iraq from our country and they have seen first hand the help and hope our troops have given the Iraq people. They also noted that we are needed to help the displaced families and children who want to rebuild Iraq. Yet, Obama wants our troops completely out of Iraq.

Now here comes the hypocritical part on Obama’s side. On June 22, 2006, Senator Obama voted “NO” on an, “Amendment to order President Bush to withdraw most United States troops from Iraq by July 1, 2007, leaving only a minimal number of forces.” Obama is saying one thing to the American public to win votes and voting the opposite.

There is another discrepancy about Obama as well. How about him being the chairperson to the committee reviewing the Afghanistan problem in the US Senate? He has yet to meet with his Afghanistan committee and there are real concerns with Afghanistan. Even Obama stated that the real problem is in Afghanistan, but is he doing anything about it? No! Obama stated, “I haven’t had time. I have been running for president.” Is he going to have time when the phone rings in the White House????????

Is Senator Obama disconcerting attitude to our foreign policies the right choice for our great country of the United States of American?

As a journalist you can present concrete facts about a candidate and it is about time the news media shows the world who is the strongest candidate and who is the weakest. Foreign Policy is a huge part of beginning a US President and Obama has shown the people of American he does not have what it takes.

Please do not forget that Obama would gladly meet with Cuba’s new leader or any other country’s leader that is a dictatorship. Hillary Clinton and President Bush have both mentioned that as a president you must have preconditions before meeting with any country that is run by a dictatorship.

Come on guys! Show us what Senator Obama is really about; all talk.


Dr. and Mrs. Peter V. Calabria

Posted by: Ruth Calabria | March 2, 2008 3:01 PM

I really enjoyed reading your post. I didn't want to stop. What a snakey ride! Thanks....


No. US should get Obama. There is no new Clinton.


Obama should be explaining why him and Hillary stole McCains 3A.M.call ad. It has been on the bottom of my blog for well over a month same ad just rearranged.


Hillary Clinton has been in the Senate for 8 years plus she's been first lady for 8 years as well! Clinton has seen it all and has the most solid experience required for presidency. Whereas Obama cannot even compare. However, the fact that he's so new makes him appeal to everyone. He's fresh and all up for a change. Except when the time comes, is he going to have the experience and knowledge to get things done? In order to hold your ground you need to be a bit witty and cunning. That's politics and Clinton knows it. Could Obama be taken advantage of from others in Washington because he's like "the new kid" on the block?


Terry, When your candidate has missed more votes than anyone except the guy who had a brain hemorrage, a few "present" votes don't sound bad at all. This is directly related to the topic since McCain has managed to miss the last couple "clean energy" votes despite his verbal support. His vote would have given the bill the 60 votes required to defeat a Republican fillibuster. Looks like the "maverick" didn't want to risk losing coal and oil money by backing up his words with his vote. Since McCain has missed nearly 60% of the votes in this congress, the "straight-talk express" appears to be nothing but talk.


,' a newer hotel that was situated between a strip club and adult bookstore.'
What relevance is this to the issue at hand, Obama will continue to prosper because the baltimore sun and all else who seek his downfall cannot match his pace or wit


Hilary was right when she said that "action speaks louder than words" but the fact of the matter is that action cannot be performed until you're actually sitting in that oval office confronted by the problems a president must face domestically, internationally and let's not forget a healthy relationship with his or her own family. I do think that experience is very important but which one of these candidates have the most sound judgement? because that's very crucial in the event of emergency situations


Please Vote for Barack!!

Let us all change America and the world for a better tomorrow.

Barack Obama will be one of the greatest leaders of our time.


You got the idea Joan thank you for your vote of confidence.


Tom O

His non-votes were on lib mainstay of discharging a firearm near a school. He voted PRESENT - now that's LEADERSHIP.


Clean Coal Technologies

Dear Editor,

We had a meeting on Saturday afternoon 23rd February 2008 at the main conference room of "Chamber of Engineers" head office in Ankara Thessalonica Street. The meeting was held with participation of leading senior/ retired members of local energy business, former General Managers, former operation managers, senior researchers of various public enterprises, as well as senior local energy experts.

The subject was "Clean Coal Technologies" which is actually the code name for Integrated Gasification Combined Cycle technology. IGCC is a new technology to answer global warming.

This new technology produces synthetic gas from coal. Synthetic gas has almost one fourth of the heating value of average natural gas.

IGCC technology is first innovated by Germans during WW2 to produce gas and/or liquid fuel for the fighting war vehicles in an environment with no petroleum resources, and further developed in South Africa during world embargo against their apartheid practices in their domestic politics.

Since the equivalent cost per barrel is/was around 50 US Dollars for the synthetic fuel, it was not feasible in the past to apply "clean coal technologies" since it had no chance of competition against low petroleum prices then. However the time has changed and petroleum now costs more than 100 US Dollars per barrel, therefore IGCC technology is now an attractive fuel option.

Our guest speaker, Dr Iskender Gokalp is a Turkish national scientist, Directeur in ICARE, Institut de Combustion, Aérothermique, Réactivité et Environnement, UPR3021 du Centre National de Recherche Technologique, "Propulsion du Futur" in 1c, Av. de la Recherche Scientifique, 45071 Orléans cedex 2, France, http://www.cnrs-orleans.fr/icare/

He comes to Turkey, to his homeland, one week for each month to pursue and execute a project to grand PhD scholarships to young Turkish engineers/ scientists in France on coal utilization, combustion technologies, supported by Turkish Coal Board and European Union under current FB7 program.

He created many scientific publications, and also had great influence in international scientific circles. He recommends us to carry out more research on "Clean Coal Technologies" on local Turkish Lignite specifically on low heating value coal mines, to justify its application and competitiveness.

He advises that local lignite coal could be the best option for application of integrated gasification. Your humble writer sincerely feels that Dr.Iskender GOKALP has all reason to advise on application of "Clean Coal Technologies" in local lignite reserves.

It is also our sincere feeling that clean-coal technology is a must. Energy tops the agenda of all local winter meetings. Next-generation coal is going to need to continue to be part of our energy future for our country. It is abundant, it is locally available, in the sense that we control the supply.

Next-generation coal typically refers to capturing and somehow sequestering or storing the carbon that coal produces. It also envisions reducing or eliminating emissions as coal is burned. It is possible to continue relying on the fossil fuel while minimizing its impact on the environment.

We cannot ignore coal, we should find better ways to utilize local lignite coal. That is important because electricity demand will ever increase in the future.

We all know that Coal has a CO2 problem, Wind has a reliability problem, Solar has a price problem, Nuclear power plants have price, radiation and unsafe disposal problem, so all of those technologies have opportunities and they all have problems.

What we can say about coal, is that we have it locally. We have it in a greater supply.

Synthetic gas production could be a bid expensive but the rest of the system is well-known combined cycle power plant.

Prevailing overall market price is around 1200- 1500 US dollars per KW installed capacity for 600-1000 MWe power plant test sizes. By localizing the technology, we can substantially reduce that first installations cost.

On the other hand local low LHV lignite has current fuel cost less than 2 (two) US Dollars per million BTU gross, whereas imported coal cost is 6- 8 US Dollars gross, Natural gas cost is around 8-10 US Dollar, and imported LNG price in spot market is around 17-18 USD per million BTU.

Senior experts have an ideefixe for application of IGCC on high heating value bituminous coal or steam coal. On the other hand, Dr Gokalp says that IGCC has potential application on low heating value lignite. It is for sure that we do not know if IGCC is perfect match for our lignite. All we have to do is to allocate more funds for more research on local lignite.

We shall have a panel on "Clean Coal Technologies" in ODTU Alumni Association Visnelik premises in Ankara on 10th March 2008 Monday at 1900 hours.

Dr Iskender Gokalp will be one of four distinguished panelists. The other panelists are Prof Dr Bekir Zuhtu UYSAL, Director of Clean Energy Institute of Gazi University, Dr Selahaddin ANAÇ GM of Turkish Coal Board, and Mr. Orhan Baybars ME'79, former site construction manager of Afsin Elbistan-B thermal power plant.

Panel will be conducted in Turkish, and it is open for all interested parties. Entrance is free-of-charge. We have free coffee/ tea services. Please do participate if you would be in Ankara on that day. Your comments are always welcome.

Haluk Direskeneli
ODTU ME'1973 - Ankara MMO 6606
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OBAMA HAS NOTHING IN COMMON WITH THE WORKING CLASS HE'S LOST IN HIS OWN HEAD LEAD THE USA HE CANT LEAD HIS OWN FAMILY


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