Is there a double standard for Obama?: The Swamp
The Swamp
Chicago Tribune
Posted March 15, 2008 12:00 PM
The Swamp

by James Oliphant

In the wake of a week that's seen Geraldine Ferraro and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright say the obvious -- that Barack Obama is black and Hillary Clinton is white -- issues of race and gender are dominating the campaign like never before.

Wesley Pruden of the Washington Times asks whether there is a double standard for Obama because of his race. He writes today that if voters cannot openly criticize the candidate, then ultimately they'll resent him for it:

"As the sheen on the Obama image dissipates, as sheen surely will under the full weight of a presidential campaign, American voters will expect to indulge their right to say what they think about the candidates. If they must be ever-so-careful to criticize Barack Obama in the robust and rowdy way they feel free to criticize everybody else, reticence will quickly become resentment, and ultimately, just in time for November, revulsion. Sen. Obama deserves better."

And Cynthia Tucker, writing in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, says there is only one beneficiary in this obsessive discourse about race and gender, the man who doesn't have to worry about those issues, John McCain:

"Fast-forward to the 21st century, where flashpoints between Obama and his rival, Hillary Clinton, suggest the same old feud. Even as discrimination based on race and sex fades away — diminished enough to allow the two of them to dominate the Democratic presidential campaign — their campaigns clash over color-coded innuendo and suggestions of sex discrimination. It's an unfortunate skirmish, since it tends to diminish both candidates, allowing Republican nominee John McCain to appear the (white male) grown-up."

Tucker suggests that for all the talk of how progressive the Democratic Party has become, its two presidential candidates and their surrogates can't seem to get past the most fundamental of issues. And the ultimately irony is that if Clinton and Obama tear each other apart and alienate a bloc of voters they are trying to court, both will have lost their chance to fashion a unique moment in history.

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The only standard that exists at this point is that the media have only the Dems to focus on until this primary is settled. They have gone back and forth keeping both candidates in this tight race. If Obama were behind, the Clintons would be screaming for this to be over, but since they hold more respect from Bill's days as Prez, they get cart blanche. Without the primary running into June, what does the political media have to focus on? Nothing. What sells? Controversey. Look at what they've tried to sell this week- Geraldine Ferraro and some pastor? Please. Get back to the issues that matter.


I agree with his assesment. I will add one other thing. This isn't just an issue that will be around with the Democratic election, already you have seen the right jump on this with disingenous shock. Sorry...this isn't democrat-republican...this is black and white.


Here's something for you to think about as Obama's preacher spews out anti-Jewish, anti-American and anti-white rhetoric from the pulpit.

Barack = 6
Hussei = 6
NObama = 6


Paulo


Obama does not mind taking criticism, but wants to be criticized on what he has done and accomplished and managed, not on someone's prejudiced view of him. He has run an excellent campaign, well-organized, on message, with collaboration and extended grassroots effort - showing his talents, discipline and ability to organize people.

Because others are jealous, they want to imply he has only advanced because of capturing America's imagination. He has inspired people because of his work and talents.


Paulo, the only thing I'm thinking about after reading your post is how stupid your 666 numerology was. Wow, I am amazed at how the freakshows rise to the top when you give them a place to post.

Karl, your assessment is right on. I will add that the Clintons love to have the debate where it is. People are saying things like "they are tearing each other apart" like Obama is out there hitting below the belt. The truth is, he is not, but the press and Clintons need that perception to be out there.


Since the black/white card is being played so heavly already and Obama hasn't even been chosen as the dem candidate, can you imagine what will happen in the country if he actually is seated as pres?


Let's not forget that some of the media is responsible for this to a certain extent. Treading lightly on one candidate and launching a full attack on another as some media outlets have done only ignites the fire more.


As others have pointed out, the only double standard is that he seems to be criticized more harshly for what his friends and supporters say or do than any other candidate in modern history.


Here's how much Obama deserves - http://www.obamatruth.org/ - it contains a bunch of newspapers articles (one of those known for more unbiased reporting) that the rest of the media preferred to hush up!

and I do indeed believe that if you criticize Barack Obama on something, however much strong your facts are, you will be called a racist! What a shame! This guy is anything but what he says he is.


They focused on Ferraro's comment when Obama's camp perceived her comments as an advantage. And now that the tide has turned, the Obama camp calls it foul. This is called hipocrisy. You can't have it both ways. Obama himself has made it about race, especially now that his pastor and ADVISOR spews hate and bigotry agains the nation and caucasians.


Talking about any of the candidates in a negative way has consequences - Senator John McCain - a war hero, Senator Barack Obama - An African American, and Senator Hillary Clinton a woman. One could just as well discuss the infidelity issue with McCain, funding issues, etc., with Obama - Rezko, and with Clinton - Peter Paul and the release of her taxes and papers from the Clinton Library.

Here is my thought on the matter. Vote for Obama I will. If Clinton wins, I vote for McCain..nothing against women but she is too divisive and revengeful. McCain...at least he is almost honest and a veteran...even though he seems to want war to go on and on and on. What about Gore? He needs to step in and say something as well as Edwards.


Paulo-Spoken like a true Hillaryite, If you think things are bad now just vote for the status quo (Billary). Oh yeah-Hillary Rodham Clinton=HRC Hypocritical Righteous Cad


After a lecture he gave at Johns Hopkins University in 1993, Barack Obama was overheard and caught on tape muttering to a close associate, "Fuck the white man." This story and the full transcript, I have been assured, will hit the news media hard on Monday or Tuesday of next week.
Only Hillary has managed to stay out of the racially charged atmosphere this week.

Posted by: TonyaSigne | March 15, 2008 12:56 PM


"Someone overheard Obama"? You need to quit listening to the voices in your head, you dope.


I have some swamp land I'd like to sell you after this election is over, Tonya


I've got news for you clowns, Hillary is already OUT of this race, it's just a matter of making it official and as for the Wingnut cheerleaders on here (Paulo), McCain isn't being talked about for a very good reason, he represents a third term of the Bush/Cheney administration disaster and no one is interested voting for that BS again.


Neither candidate has run a campaign based on race politics. Discussing either of them as though they are doing that is doing a disservice to the American public - yet another phony diversion from our interests.

Whether the candidates distance themselves from racist remarks made by people in their respective campaigns should certainly be fair game.

If one forcefully rejects racist comments and the other reluctantly does so, reporting on that fact DOES not equal a double standard. It means the candidates have not performed on a matter of public concern in the same way.


This issue does matter. This man advises Mr. Obama. Wake up!
He is an advisor and pastor to Obama. One of the most influencial people in Obama's camp.
I've been undecided, but this helps secure my decision. Hillary!


"Barrack is only where he is because he is black" -- one could also say "Hillary would not be where she is had she not been married to Bill Clinton".

As you can see, it is easy to argue that neither democratic candidate is running on their own merits -- merely the merits of their circumstances.

Such arguments are both specious and inflammatory, and serve only the republican candidate.


Double standard? You bet!

If, at this point in the race, John Edwards had won the most delegates, most states, most popular votes, he would have been named the presumptive nominee and Clinton would have been forced out of the race by party elders.


Obviously there is a double standard for barak, just as there is in society in general. Joe Piscapo feels he can talk about Hillary's "surgically implanted smile" without any recourse. Does he say anything about barak's ears?


Compare the blanket coverage
of Obama and Wright with,
with the near zero coverage of McCain
and his spirtual advisor Rod Parsley.
Parsley has made hateful statements againt Muslims and gays, but he gets a pass. McCain can seek out and get and endorsement from Catholic hating Hagee, but there is no demand that McCain reject or denounce.

But there has always been a double standard. Think about it when is the last time you heard a positive story about a Black man on the news, other than Obama.

Obama wins ten in row, Clinton whines that she is not getting the same that coverage, and the media especially talk radio has been on Obama's case ever since. Then there is the persistent lie the Michelle Obama said she was never proud of
America, when she was actually praising voter participation.

Listen for yourself and then lets discuss double standard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh1TddL9YvQ

She was obviously referring to the election. So we need to question those that perputate the unpratriotic lie.

Remember the lie that Obama snubbed Clinton. He turned to answer a question from Senator Clare McCaskill. The New York times and ABC cropped out McCaskill and reported that Obama turned away from
Clinton. ABC also spliced together the soundbites Wright to show him the worst light.

Double standard.
You betcha


Do Hillary or McCain ever go into a church if not pandering for votes? This is about taking down a man, a Black man who goes to church. How often does Hillary or McCain go to church when they are not campaigning for votes? Never. As for the preacher, he says with more flair exactly what Ron Paul said, that America's foreign policy led to 9/11. There is truth to that.


Tonya, please...you sound so foolish-really. The media was well aware of Rev.Wrights inflammatory comments-its only now they chose to shed light on it. One only has to wonder what agenda do some in the media have? Obama has run a stellar campaign. And their are some who want to see him swifted boated, like Kerry. But no not this time-the stakes are too high in this election. Obama is not perfect and he knows it. He's made some silly choices in the past that he's acknowledged it all. Is there a double standard? You bet there is, but no with Obama. The double standard is McCain. Wright is not an issue--we need get back to more important issues that are affecting the lives of everyday Americans.


It is not an attack to ask:

McCain - Show us your taxes.

Clinton - Show us your taxes.


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The ironic thing is that Obama has continued to say that he wants to focus on the "issues", Hillary as well, although the clinton camp likes the political dirt-party. I think that the 24-hour news cycle is the main reason all of this is going on. You guys need something to talk about 24 hours a day and so whether it is a crazy-pastor or Geraldine, who just should have been asked to clarify her statements, not be made to apologize, the onus is still on the media and your insatiable appetite for controversy. McCain is the same white-man that has come before him. I'll take Hillary or Obama because they have stronger visions than McCain's pandering to the right.


Someone once said: "people get the president they deserve". It is amazing to see the extent to which the media can manipulate, influence and shape the opinions of the american people.

In america, the perception of you is more important than who you really are and that is why the media became to play a big role in this election. People are naive, they do not want to think too much,...and nobody is taking time to really look depeer beyond what the media says about each candidate.

Yes, US is the most powerful conutry on the world and is known as the free and democratic world. The question is: what kind of freedom and democracy do we have ? Freedom is only good when used for good purposes. Likewise, democracy is good when people take the time to analyzed the info presented to them, think about it, and then freely express their opinions. We all should be critical of the media and its agenda, because they are somehow biased.

The president we will get in Nov will reflect who we are as people and where we are in our "growth".

Noriks


That double standard appears to be the case!

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Why can't anyone state the truth in the media. Senator Obama is half black, and half white....golly guys, sorry to burst your bubble! Even Mr. Obama stated this after his Ohio concession speech.

So why doesn't the media catch on here? What's the problem guys? I'll admit that he's African American, but he's also European American, and this would make him perhaps the first Mixed Race President, or the first Mulatto President, or perhaps Euro-African American President. Anyway you dice, you guys need to get right?
What are you worried about? Perhaps, if you call him Mixed Race, it will hurt is chances, under some sort of psychological, suspect, quota scenario

So, you see, it's not just black and white here, but a lot of shades of gray in between:)


The press is no longer, "THE PRESS." They are a shameful shell of the great "fourth estate" we once had. They are dedicated NOT to reporting the news and informing the public. They are dedicated to ratings, period. Obama and race, Clinton and gender...they generate controversey and attention. They sell to an American public which has become the "look at me" MySpace Narcissistic generation.

Did you know that there are over 40 INDEPENDENT candidates registered with the federal elections commission? NONE of them have received ANY PRESS COVERAGE AT ALL.

The PRESS "chooses" what they feel is news based upon their greed-driven criteria, thus failing us all as Americans. WE HAVE MANY, BETTER CHOICES, you will never hear of them in the press.

We are damned.


Tonya, do you have any more information on this alleged 1993 speech at JHU?


Race is definately an issue... at least to Obama's camp. I've never seen the racecard been payed so hard in a campaign. I dont care if he's pokadot or stripes and neither should his voters.

Mccain was endorsed by a church who then preached to destroy Islam. But now this is all Mccain's true want...right?

But Obama has has a preacher for 20 years!!! And even though this preacher is appearantly a hater of the USA and a biggot against whites, Obama never knew. And that's ok with the press?!?

Yeah definately a double standard for Obama's camp at least!


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Recall when Kissinger took himself off the 9-11 commission.


If I'd had david Duke or Hitler as my spritual advisor for 20 years I wonder how many people would believe that I'm not a racist.


The double standard on the Democratic side is that any mention of race in the campaign is spun as racism, but the rampant sexism is rarely confronted. Among all the things Reverend Wright said, his sexist comments about Hillary were the most offensive; yet, all the media focused on was his alleged "anti-American" and "hating-one-white-people" remarks.


Is there a double standard?
You've answered your own question by writing "Sen. Obama deserves better."
I have news for you buddy, all three candidates deserve better, especially from the press. Better coverage. Better, unbiased coverage. Better, unbiased, news analysis. Come to think of it, we the readers and voters, deserve better. From you.


This issue does matter. This man advises Mr. Obama. Wake up!
He is an advisor and pastor to Obama. One of the most influencial people in Obama's camp.
I've been undecided, but this helps secure my decision. Hillary!

Posted by: Kenny | March 15, 2008 1:18 PM


Insane Kenny,


It works both ways, Champ.


Racist Geraldine Ferraro is an advisor and fundraiser for Hillary.


If Hillary's last name wasn't "Clinton" she'd already be out of this race.


The media has lost its mind and bearing. It is hard to know who is running for President. One week is Ferraro v. Wright. Another week it is Monster v. Ken Starr.

It is such irrelevant foci that alllowed Bush to hoodwink us into war.


There is most assuredly nothing timid about the way Senator Obama is attacked in any of the anti-Obama posts that I've read!


Wow, if what Tanya Signe posted is true, and that it will hit the news media soon, I wonder what reaction would Caucasians who had already voted for him feel.


THE MEDIA KEEPS DENYING THAT IT HAS used different yardsticks when judging the candidacies of Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama. Just yesterday I saw MSNBC's Courtney Hazlett on Joe Scarborough's morning program discussing Saturday Night Live's recent skits of a slavish press fawning over Senator Obama. Hazlett reported that Michael Lorne denies SNL is endorsing Clinton as president, but expressed her own view that the skits prove otherwise. Yet Lorne rejected the criticism in a New York Times interview. "That obviously is not the case,'' he told Bill Carter. "We don't lay down for anybody.” He said most of the show's writers are Obama supporters, but that the show's skits had touched on a truth that the media was denying.The imbalance proves once again the media's timidity in dealing with racial issues. But until it is able to tackle the uncomfortable truths about the differing standards of race from all sides of the debate, racial resentments will continue to simmer just beneath the surface, to occasionally boil over in riots, protests or the "Bradley Effect."
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I think Obama benefited from race issue since SC primary. From exit polls, Obama won 85-90% of Black votes may not good for Black people. It is understandable for Blacks to vote their candidate, but it may be even better off in long run to vote for Clinton. First, it will show to Whites that Blacks are on issues not on races themselves. This will bring the country together. If they one-sidedly voted for Obama, at least it will leave the impression on Whites that Blacks are voted racially, not the Whites. Second, to vote objectively and consciously for the best candidate will be better to the country, it, in turn, beneficial to Blacks also. That to believe that 90% of Blacks think Obama is better candidate than Clinton is objective is less-supportive. Third, Clintons had good relations to Blacks in history. It is time for Black to show their supports to Clintons, too. If someone did some favor to you, you shall certainly do the same. Finally, in my view, it is better for Clinton to be elected for Blacks than Obama, because Clinton can implement policies that are good for Blacks without being charged with racial-oriented while Obama may have problems for such policies that maybe charged as racial-oriented from his opposition. So my view is that it is not wise and not good for Blacks to overwhelmingly vote for Obama. I hope my opinion can be viewed as positive to Blacks.


The issue isn't that Obama is black. IIt is that Hillary's campaign implied he is ONLY where he is BECAUSE he is black. That is absurd. Just as saying Hillary is only where she is because she is a woman.

It is also silly for her campaign to argue about her experience, since none of it...including her Senate seat, woukd have been hers if she had not been with Bill. She would have never met those heads of State or been allowed to even be present at overseas discussions if it hadn't been for her being with Bill.

If sleeping with a president makes you qualified for the Oval Office, why isn't Monica a candiddate?


Here is the real problem. The media is dictating the issues. According to MSM every issue is an attack on a person's character. Everything is broken down by race. This makes Joe Public think everything is bad. The fact of the matter is Hillary questioning Obama's experience is not an attack but a contrast. Same thing with Rezko. The problem is when Obama has to answer the same questions over and over and over again about his race, muslims, or what some person said about Jews or white people. Those are negative attacks. I wish the MSM would make a clear distinction when discussing topics. The hypocrisy comes into play when the MSM doesn't in turn doesn't question Hillary's 35yrs experience which by the way is not negative. Attacking hillary because she is a women is. In the end we must realize the MSM is about what sells. Controversy sells.


There is a worrisome aspect for obama campaign.
Nobody wants the 3 am decision maker to be a follower who did not know his preacher for twenty years. The answer to the 3am call hopefully will not be what the preacher said :
God damn america and the chickens have come too roost.
He should have denounced the preacher not when media exposed him but on 9/11.His continuation in the senate is a grave insult to the victims of 9/11.. Even the crimes of the new york governor are miniscule compare to this.


Imagine if Barack had broken out in tears before a primary....

Double standard????


Kate: You are absolutely right. The Clintons are telling Obama to get to the back of the bus and they know that stirring the race stew will bring out the racist lunatics you see on this site. The media is shameless in perpetuating all of this. Let's focus on what's important in this election, please--the war, the economy, our children's future.


Just look at these posts!
I am an Independent who voted for Kerry. I was leaning left. Now I see the disarray of the Democrats. They have made a mess of the Michigan -Florida primary issue because they are afraid to enforce their own rules; Hillary and Barack are playing the race and gender cards to the nth degree and both are gulling party voters with outlandish promises of "change." When Will Rogers said that the Democratic party wasn't organized, he sure hit the nail on the head. At least the Republicans, whatever else you say about them, know where they intend to go and what they intend to do.


Imagine, just for a minute, that Hillary CLinton was not a female, but rather a male politician. And remove the surname Clinton (thus detracting from name-recognition value). Let's say that part and parcel (except for gender and the Clinton name) Hillary was "Hugh R. Carson. In truth, this politician would have blended in with all the other white males running for president. His candidacy WOULD NOT have stood out as having any more signficance or importance than any of the others (like John Edwards or Joe Biden, e.g.,); in fact, less. His claims of "35 years of experience" would have resulted in him being booted offstage in favor of some of the white male candidates. And his grating, polarizing personality would have caused elimination early on. So , the real moral of this story is that Hillary is where she is because she is a woman. On the other hand, Obama, if he were white (more white), would NOT have been so eliminated because (1) he inspired huge crowds and newcomers to the party, (2) offered a message of changing old Washington politics, and (3) was not politically owned by special interests. However, he would have to compete with some of the more established candidates when it came to review of his background for holding such a high office. Therefore, I would suggest to all of you that you change the gender or race of each of these and consider them alongside others in this light, and you will see why so many people gravitate to Obama. I should mention that I am not voting for either at this point, but I would suggest that Obama is the more professional, dignified, personable, and capable of the two. Hillary reminds me of backroads Arkansas-pat-each-others'-backs politics


Yeah, I have some swampland to sell to tonya too. - Baltimoresun, you should really remove that comment.

But I guess if it isn't removed, the story of Hillary Clinton and John McCain saying "Fuck the Jews" when they crossed paths at a Mayo Clinic Conference in 1988 will hit the news media soon too.


Kate: You are absolutely right. The Clintons are telling Obama to get to the back of the bus and they know that stirring the race stew will bring out the racist lunatics you see on this site. The media is shameless in perpetuating all of this. Let's focus on what's important in this election, please--the war, the economy, our children's future.


what "he said " fuck the white man" and it is on tape. hey throw the guy out" looks lke to me, he might be a plant, from the folks we are fighting. all the talk he spits out, with nothing to back it up, he is my friend all done!


One must ask: How has Barack Obama created or aided in a double standard? It has been my observation that he has done everything he can to keep his campaign about the issues-- not centered on race or gender. Such allegations are coming from media outlets. As some posts have said, controversy sells. Those adding fuel to this inferno of racism are making money from it!

We want to hear about the issues; not a media created frenzy!


Why would anybody be surprised by the back biting between the Clinton and Obama camps? This has been the liberal m.o. for decades. In the 70's, liberals branded all non-liberals as fascists. In the 80's, non-liberals were all racists according to the liberal mantra; and in the 90's, anyone who wasn't a liberal was a fundamentalist Christian extremist. Now that there is a split in the liberal community, is it any surprise that they have resorted to their old tactics of trying to paint their enemies as racists, sexists and extreme religious fundamentalists?


it is ironic that it is democrats engulfed in the race and gender,it should have been the prorogative of republicans.
obama tried to be a preacher to covicts and it failed. a country that is used to partiality for generations cannot be ordained in a day.
this is a sad day for america. we pretend to be above race religion and gender bias but we are waist deep into it. dilema obama has is that he cannot take the high road in robber teritory if he steeps down then his whole campaign becomes baseless.
this is the begining, if he gets nomination then repulican right wing will tear him into unrecognisable bits.
he started with sheen of civilty which is soon wearing off and dems may lose the best chance to take back white house .
THE BEST WAY FOR HIM IS TO TAKE THE VP SPOT AND AVOID THE TERROR AND HELP DEMS TO TAKE BACK WHITE HOUSE ANDHELP AMERICA TO GET OUT OF MESS. HE MUST NOT FORGET THAT THEY ALSO SERVE WHO STAND AND WAIT. SEN. OBAMA I BEG YOU TO CONTROL YOUR AMBITIONS AND EGO AND DO THE
RIGHT THING FOR THE COUNTRY HE CLAIM TO LOVE
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From the Huffington Post:

The knock on the Clintons -- the candidacy as well as the campaign -- has always been that they would say anything to get elected and exploit divisions rather than build bridges. Both of those traits were on fatalistic display when Geraldine Ferraro recently asserted that Barack Obama is lucky to be a black man or he could not hope to come this far.

"The country," she added, "is caught up in the concept."

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What makes these comments so consistent with the campaign has less to do with Ferraro's position as a fundraiser for Hillary than their tone. Anyone can raise money and anyone can opine. It's the familiar vituperative ring tone and an emerging take-no-prisoners attitude toward race from people who seem resentful that black voters have left them. In an emerging pattern, Hillary neither denounced nor rejected Ferraro's remarks. A day later, a bitter Ferraro resigned her unpaid post.

That bitterness also followed a pattern. Ferraro was "furious" and "livid" when Obama called her remarks "patently absurd."

"Every time that campaign is upset about something, they call it racist," she responded. "I will not be discriminated against because I am white."

Ordinarily, these are fighting words for Obama supporters. After all, they follow the Clintons' numerous campaign comments and innuendo about Obama's acknowledged drug use, Hillary's abandonment of black voters in South Carolina, Bill Clinton's belittling of black votes, Jesse Jackson's presidential runs and that demeaning "young man" comment. It's likely the campaign leaked the photo of Obama in Somali dress, and it is certain that Hillary deliberately wavered in denying that Obama was a Muslim. Even the absurdly successful attempt to cast the frontrunner as a plausible vice presidential running mate exudes a sense of entitlement any black candidate would be hard-pressed to match.

Call it a campaign because it is a campaign: To discredit Obama's standing with voters by appealing to racial myth, fear and unconscious racism.

I remember a different Ferraro. I was a proud college student and the lone male of my household when Walter Mondale picked her as the first woman running mate in 1984 and set my awe in motion. Almost 10 years later, I was working as a lowly, nameless associate at a big law firm and spent a little time with her. We were conducting a mock human rights trial on genocide in Bosnia-Herzegovina, and Ms. Ferraro was our star witness. I sheepishly helped to prepare her on the law. She was just as gracious and strong and forthright as I had always admired her to be. We were briefly joined by our shared belief in humanity. I was starstruck.

But she's wrong now and in ways that may prove irreparable for the Democratic Party. The central flaw in her remarks is a conflation commonly made in talk about race -- that is, the difference between equality and symmetry.

The idea of equality is a complicated mess, but most of us agree that when it comes to racial equality the principle requires finding present opportunity in the context of a very unequal past. Therefore, most of us would not assume equal chances between someone who comes from a family of generational privileges and someone whose family has been denied them for generations. We want opportunities to be equal for both, but we know that we do not start from the scratch of the present moment.

Ferraro's comments about Obama's presidential appeal turn the reality of a first-viable black candidacy on its head by claiming that he is somehow being given unequal treatment by an electorate "caught up in the concept." If the overwhelming blackness of Hurricane Katrina's deaths and survivors were not enough evidence, news last week that one in 15 black men are incarcerated (and disenfranchised) offers only a statistical glimpse of the disfavored status of black men in the polity. Behind the numbers are anecdotes all around that reveal how in educational access and achievement, employment and economic mobility -- everywhere but on a stage or in sports -- being a black man is about the most unequal person you'd ever want to be. Obama was right. On the facts about equality, Ferraro's comment was patently absurd.

Yet Ferraro's reply to the response shows an irreconcilable demand for symmetry. Symmetry is the conservative idea of equality which sees no history, recent or long past. It demands that both sides have exactly the same thing this very moment. Symmetry is the battle cry of affirmative action opponents. "Racism works in two different directions," she explained.

This obsession with symmetry leaves a lot of people of color shaking their heads (and their fists). The more it's demanded, the more elusive it becomes. Twice since January we have seen the Clinton campaign resort directly or indirectly to racial messages -- now and surrounding South Carolina. Each time, the national press, like Ferraro, suggest that "both sides" have gotten nasty. This simply isn't true, and the expectation of symmetry obscures a lot. Comments by Samantha Power, an Obama advisor, calling Hillary a "monster" were the only ad hominem remarks about her, but they were neither about her race or her gender. One should have an equal opportunity to be feel offended by a perceived racist slight without being lumped in with your attacker.

And the great irony is -- in fact, the greatest show of asymmetry in the whole election this far -- that Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro may speak openly, fervently and proudly about their gender without dooming their campaign, and Barack Obama cannot do the same with his race. Comb the record. You will not find him doing that. His blackness is so obvious it cannot dare be mentioned by him or anyone near his campaign.

Indeed, the substance of Ferraro's remarks reflected her concern that sexism is evident in some of the campaign coverage (and there's something to this, I believe). Hillary has made similar claims more than once. Yet no one will ever assume they can find their voice on behalf of Obama with the kind of "humor" expressed by comic Tina Fey on Hillary's new favorite, Saturday Night Live: "Bitch is the new black!"

This race-gender/silence-assertion irony reveals many things -- some bad, some good. On the one hand, it is unfortunate that Obama cannot speak with his customary eloquence and thoughtfulness (outside of his books) on an issue most Americans wish they understood a little better. The fact that Hillary and Ferraro -- two highly symbolic "firsts" -- believe their frequent references to both their genders and to sexism will not hurt the Clinton candidacy demonstrates a powerful imbalance in this country's views on race. That is, the country is "caught up" in those concepts so unequally that Ferraro can take for granted her right to angrily assert her gender in public.

On the other hand, Obama's racial reticence may be part of an unprecedented approach to transformation and unity. Subtlety has its place, especially in a national campaign where substance bows to controversy every time. He seems mostly to lead by example.

However, race, like gender, does not belong only to the black candidate. There was a time when many in the country looked to the Clintons as sage observers of racial dynamics, but Hillary has clearly abandoned that mantle. Her campaign speaks of a foregone black vote, as if it were lost to science or bad luck. Yet it was not long ago that she and Bill commanded intense black voter support and affection. Never have we seen a candidate for such an important office squander so much racial goodwill so willingly.

The ultimate problem is that eventually we must all pay the costs of these moments -- even if we pay in lost opportunities. Given Obama's silence about race and Clinton's baiting of it, her rapidly eroding support among black voters may have more to do with the vision of community she is offering than with his message. Either way, nothing better demonstrates the differences between their candidacies than these issues. And nothing more clearly foreshadows electoral doom in November either. If there is anything this nation should be tired of, it's fighting unjustified wars.


TonyaSigne:
your comment about Obama saying "f*** the white man" is a complete LIE. Do a Google search-nothing comes up except for your posts.

If someone had found out about this, it would be all over the news. Do you have some sort of inside knowledge that no one else does? I don't think so.


by the way. barack obama is white too, or is that not possible for people to see?


Obama has taken almost every criticism to him and turned it around as racist. He is the one who has been playing the race card. First with Bill, then with pictures, middle name, and even now with his relationship with his pastor. Wright has almost a 17 years long relationship, a mentor to guide Obama; this is not a 'guilt by association'; this is a serious issue about Obama's character, thinking, philosophy and judgement (or lack of).


Speaking of things no one can say: If Hillary gets elected to be the President of the United States, her husband, former President Bill Clinton, will surely reside in the White House with her. Let us not forget, it is the same Bill Clinton, who, while serving as President, found time to engage in sex in the hallowed grounds of the White House with a girl half his age. And then, even worse, he blatantly lied about it on national television to the whole country, until he got caught with his semen on the girl's dress. If this Bill Clinton becomes the first-mate (who, under the law, can not be assigned any significant responsibilities in the Government), his wife will be busy with the affairs of the State and he will have ample time on his hands and not very much to do. Under these circumstances, do we really expect him to behave any better than he did when he was the President? And this is not just a private matter; improper behavior on the part of a first-mate can paralyze the entire White House and even subject it to blackmail. Do we really want Bill Clinton in the White House again?


John McCain's having himself one heck of a nice honeymoon isn't he?


Some things are so obvious they need no qualifying disclaimers, and the one presently causing such interracial consternation is squarley in that vein. Racial differences in America are just as real as they've ever been, much to the frustration of naive left wing social engineers. Let the candidates say what they feel, say what they think, say what is obvious, say what is real, we're not children who need protection from the bad old boogyman!
Obama is a known racist, as is his wife and the overwhelming majority of his machine. So what. Lyndon Johnson was a notorious racist, as was Richard Nixon, as was John Kennedy(!), as was George Wallace, as was etc etc etc. Did it prevent any of them from doing what they were elected to do, nope. Racism is a fact of life and nature itself, out of the reach of any and all so called reformers. We can hide behind rhetoric and ideology all we want, it changes nothing but the appearance, never the reality. I think it is a positive and hopeful sign that we can open the door of race relations, if only a mere crack,and allow the truth to illuminate the facts, the real facts, not the sophomoric "academic" facts. Until we mature enough to have this dialogue we will be constantly guilty of denial, even deceit. Let these people get the kid gloves off and put the eight ounce leathers on, give us reality, give us progress, give us the picture of the inner people who would be the most powerful person on earth.
Alex Haley said "this nation is not a melting pot, it is a salad bowl where all the colors show", I believe that to be one of the truest judgements ever made of race in America.


CNN reported the other day that 13% of Americans thought Obama was Muslim - despite the press ernestly reporting that he is Christian.

This type of ignorance comes from rumors being started and perpetuated by those with malevolent intentions.

Don't you think that if he had said something in a speech that was on tape that it would have been reported by now? Or do you believe you have some special access that the media in this country don't?

If the moderator is serious, they'd remove this type of garbage from the post....


I'm sure there is a double standard just because it would be extremely unusual for there not to be a double standard on some level. I agree with the statement above. I'm voting for Obama. If Hillary gets the nomination I'm voting for McCain. Not because Hillary is a woman. It is because she has not demonstrated the judgement I want in a Commander in Chief.


Any text, out of context, is simply pretext. How do you know he wasn't referring to some nasty white individual in the middle of a group of black people? Oh... you DON'T know??! Well... isn't this race a little too important to be relying on here-say and innuendo, such as out-of-context quotes?


I'm somewhat taken aback that a 17 year association with an Afrocentric black racist, America-hating preacher, whom Obama has backed financially with tithes over the years, does not disqualify Obama in the eyes of the electorate.

This church awards Louis Farrakhan, leader of the black racist "Nation of Islam" the equivalent of its "Man of the Year" award for 2007.

Double standard? Imagine if a white candidate had attended a Christian Identity church, which awarded David Duke of the KuKluxKlan, its equivalent of its "Man of the Year" award, and then presented himself as a presidential candidate.

Yet Obama declares that the Rev. Wright, the racist and "damn-America" preacher, is his mentor. So Obama has accepted the views and values of the racist preacher, who damns America.

Rev. Wright and Louis Farrakhan in addition to being advocates of damn America and anti-white positions, are vociferous anti-Semites with hate Jew and anti-Israel rhetoric spewing from them. It is remarkable that considering this anti-Semitism, Jews remain among Obama supporters.

There is a remarkable disregard of their own interests by supporters of Obama.

Is racism extant in America? If racism means acting on a racial basis then support for Obama by black voters at a more than 90% rate indicates a clustering based on race. Is black America then the last bastion of racism in the United States? White voters seem to have purged themselves of racism by having voted in significant and sometimes overwhelming numbers for a black candidate. This, however, was before his noxious associations were "outed."

Will the candidacy of this racist, anti-American candidate continue to be supported by blacks and/or whites now that he has been exposed? What is the apologia and justification that could make him acceptable. Certainly his epiphany at this late date is transparent, and his conversion away from the ideology of his 17 year mentor cannot evanesce hius demonstrated predilections.

Obama made a voluntary election to join a black racist and America damning organization, support it for 17 years, adopt its leader as his mentor, and thus accept its ideology and doctrine. He remained in that status for 17 years. It is his responsibility that he did so without any coercion, and he is accountable for his involvement with racism, anti-Americanism, and anti-Semitism.

Will America exculpate him for his sins and omissions. I hope not, not if we retain any sense of self-worth.


Bo...what % of his parties vote did Ron Paul get? Apparently Obama didn't go to church very often or maybe he didn't stay for the sermon. We need to nominate some one who can win.


The comments on this very thread disprove its thesis. Nobody's handling Obama with kid gloves. Quite the opposite.
Insidious psychological tactics are more common for him than for Clinton. For example, when asked if he was a Moslem she had to conclude her negative response with "as far as I know." Conservatives all over the place are emphasizing his middle name whenever they talk about him.


Its hate! hate! and more hate, period. Barack Obama represent the most dangerous man to the mind of these virulent hate mongers. I am a black man who is very proud of all these white men and women stoutly defending Barack from these smear campaigners, ranging from Sean Hannity to Rush 'drug addict' Limbaugh. If the God Almighty wants Barack to be the president of the country, there is absolutely nothing these haters can to obstruct him. In the end, he will prevail


The real troubling aspect of this is not Wright's endorsement of Obama, it's Obama's endorsement and support of Wright over the past two decades, and the influence Wright seemed to have had on Obama's life.


Poor Barack...we don't understand that he just made a mistake and trusted Rezko who he thought was a good guy and that he never knew that Jews were good to blacks as he listened to haters sprew hate about them. He didn't know they marched and died along with MLK and all this other friend of the Jews stuff he now claims. I guess he was out of town or the country when history was being taught or the hate of the Nazi's was being repeated. No, Obama isn't getting it easy, he is getting a ride to the White House, greased by the wrong reasons...guilt and excuses and racial hatred and gender bias.


Obama has shown the poorest of poor judgement.

I am an Obama supporter who feels that he must now step out of public life for his own good. I believe this racially charged atmosphere will poison America. Obama made a tremendous and unsurmountable mistake by not rejecting and denouncing his Pastor.

Senator Obama should now take a break and rehabilitate his life and left America heal from this pain.


blacks vote for Obama cause he is Black.
whites vote for clinton and Mccain cause they are white
woman vote for clinton cause she is a woman

whites vote against Obama cause he is black

woman vote against Obama and mccain cause they are men

men vote against clinton cause she is a woman, somebody help me out with that list..


can you imagine what would happen if hillary was a black woman, and Obama was spanish lol..


Obama has shown the poorest of poor judgement.

I am an Obama supporter who feels that he must now step out of public life for his own good. I believe this racially charged atmosphere will poison America. Obama made a tremendous and unsurmountable mistake by not rejecting and denouncing his Pastor.

Senator Obama should now take a break and rehabilitate his life and left America heal from this pain.


Double standard? Is the press even noting that McCain converted to evangelical Baptist at age 71 and has kissed the ring of several high ranking Christian bigots? How about that McCain graduated 894 out of a class of 899 at Annapolis? Or that he has written about how we should have bombed everywhere in North Vietnam or joked about bombing Iran and wants us to stay in Irak for 100 years. If anybody is getting a pass it is Grandpa Munster!


Lord how I love seeing you libs tearing yourselves up!
The leader of Obamas church IS an influence on the mans thinking, Obama even said as much in his book.
Oh..and Ray MABUS is Obamas middle east advisor..now where have I heard that name before...?


Hillary C. has done well for our country, but I do think there is a certain degree of "entitlement" mentality starting to show with her run for president.

As I see it, the delegate numbers do not support her catching up to Barack, so as a result it appears she's willing to break her initial promises regarding FL and Michigan; it appears she is (or her surrogates) willing to resort to dirty politics in order to attempt to sway super delegate to vote for her; and it appears she willing to take the party down with her if she does not win the primary. What is really sad is that somewhere along the way the media has allowed itself to follow her narrative. I used to have a tremendous amount of respect for Hillary as a person, and even thought that I would vote for her, however now I am less likely.


Hillary C. has done well for our country, but I do think there is a certain degree of "entitlement" mentality starting to show with her run for president.

As I see it, the delegate numbers do not support her catching up to Barack, so as a result it appears she's willing to break her initial promises regarding FL and Michigan; it appears she is (or her surrogates) willing to resort to dirty politics in order to attempt to sway super delegate to vote for her; and it appears she willing to take the party down with her if she does not win the primary. What is really sad is that somewhere along the way the media has allowed itself to follow her narrative. I used to have a tremendous amount of respect for Hillary as a person, and even thought that I would vote for her, however now I am less likely.


And as for double standards, why does the media consistenly allow HRC to get by with her experience claim.

Let's be serious: all three are Senators, and none have executive level experience (given our current president, this may be a good thing). But to consistently claim that her experience in the East Wing counts is specious at best...and any serious analysis of her foreign policy claims would indicate vast overstatement at best...yet every every article and clip you see has her claiming experience - where is the objectivity in that?


Hillary C. has done well for our country, but I do think there is a certain degree of "entitlement" mentality starting to show with her run for president.

As I see it, the delegate numbers do not support her catching up to Barack, so as a result it appears she's willing to break her initial promises regarding FL and Michigan; it appears she is (or her surrogates) willing to resort to dirty politics in order to attempt to sway super delegate to vote for her; and it appears she willing to take the party down with her if she does not win the primary. What is really sad is that somewhere along the way the media has allowed itself to follow her narrative. I used to have a tremendous amount of respect for Hillary as a person, and even thought that I would vote for her, however now I am less likely.


As long as we are in this beautifull country called the United States of America, we will have racially issues. The important matter here is the our candidates whoever they may be, know how to deal with it. If they can't deal with something as simple as race comments, how do we expect them to run our country? Folks, is time we put a stop to this or else we better get ready for another 4 years of missery if the Republicans continue in power. Let's keep in the oval office the person that better fits the bill. I think we all agree that Hillary Clinton should be that individual. Thanks! Good luck to us all in 2009. God Bless!


Somtimes you wonder about Obama supporters. Either they are brainwashed to a pont that they can't see between day and light, or they are slogan mongering fanatics. It is so obvious that Obama twists his records to his advantage every day.

Obama's main claim to presidency is that he was against the Iraq war when he was not even a senator. This one incident makes him a person who will always be right. It is Hillary's fault that sheis not confronting Obama on the main issues. I think her fear of alienating blacks and the superdelegates has paralyzed her thinking. It is such a shame because she really is good. Hey Obamaiets, you are destroying the country. Don't you think that the truth will come out someday?


Economy, Healthcare, Education, Trade, Jobs...do people even remember that these were once the most important issues of the campaign?

Now is about skin color, religion. Gender is next - Hillary has been given a pass so far..but I think it will be her turn next.

The world will never change. I thought I would live to see it when we had an obvious qualified Black candidate but America will never see past the color of people.


RACE IS PART OF THE US.

TRY BEING A POLE RUNNIUNG AGAINST AN IRISHMAN IN BOSTON; AR AN ITALIAN RUNNING AGAINST A GERMAN IN NYC; OR A JEW RUNNING AGAINST AN ITALIAN IN BROOKLYN?

RACE PLAYS A YEAVY ROLE IN MOST ELECTIONS. WAKE UP!


Of COURSE there is a double standard. PC behavior guarantees it. When we are trained to not offend anyone - a double-standard is created from the start.

Blacks and women's true equality will not happen until there is no double standard.


...WHY CAN ALL GET ALONG??? WOWWWW..RACE,COLOR,RELIGION,GAY,NOT GAY...WHITE..ASIAN..HISPANIC..EUROPEAN..LET'S STICK TO OUR OAL....VOTE FOR A MAN OR A WOMAN TO BE A PRESIDENT...NOT BECOUSE OF ALL THOSE STANDARTS...
SIMPER FI..HUUUUUURRRAAAAAAAAA


Paulo, you are in fact, an idiot. Thanks for reflecting it for all to see with your absurd theory. You thought of that all by yourself didnt you? (No doubt when things were dull in the trailer park.....Sonya, where did you get this info? Or are you another scared white person, trying to spread rumours about the BIG BLACK MAN thats about to turn the white house black? You guys are pathetic.


I just read most of the posted comments here and I find it interesting how so many of them mention ancillary issues about the candidates. Some comments about Obama sound like adoring fans praises of a rock star. Others are clearly contemptuous against McCain or Hillary. Some are clearly very silly or absurd. Granted, this article is about race & gender issues, but none of the comments mention any of the political issues on the table. This is something that I have noticed in many of the postings in many other Blogs. I am currently in favor of Hillary, not because I particularly like her very much, but because I believe she is the only candidate who has the know-how and motivation to reform health care. I like Obama a lot more than Hillary, the guy is brilliant an absolutely mesmerizing orator. I also believe his oratory is genuine, but he has not brought any issues to the table that affect real working people like me. I think Obama would be a terrific diplomat, someone who could certainly improve if not fix the image of the United States abroad, but here at home, I really think Hillary can get more done in the health care front at any rate. It is going to take a lot more than hope and good will to change the 'monster' the health care industry has become.

In the last Obama-Clinton debate, at one point Hillary protested asking the moderators, why was she always being asked the questions first? I saw and heard this with my own ears and eyes, and yes it was true, at least up to that point most of the questions were being asked first to Hillary giving Obama extra time to think about a reply. Not only this, but in his follow up responses, he used much of Hillary's terminology from her initial and eloquent answers. Up to that point it had not occurred to me that the media was biased and that it was treating Obama with white gloves, after the debate, I had not doubt that this is the case. I agree with the assertion of this article, the fact that nobody can criticize Obama without being called a racist will eventually turn on him.


Roger Canaday: what is the law that prevents the spouse from significant governement responsibilities?

This would certainly have an impact on her claim of White House experience?

Thanks.


I found Obama's pastor shocking. If Obama wants to bring the country together, this type of preaching will set race relations back 50 years.
I find it hard to believe that Barack never heard his preacher utter any of these sentiments over the 20 years he attended church, nor was ever influenced by his teachings.


Let's replicate Geraldine Ferraro's comments but with a twist: "If Hillary Rodham Clinton hadn't slept with Bill Clinton, she wouldn't be running for president today. In fact, if she wasn't a woman, she wouldn't have any other qualifications." Is that statement true, Ms Ferraro? Is it fair, Ms Ferraro? Is it sexist, Ms Ferraro? Are your comments racist, Ms Ferraro?


"I am currently in favor of Hillary, not because I particularly like her very much, but because I believe she is the only candidate who has the know-how and motivation to reform health care." - if there is one thing she can claim as experience in Bill's White House, Healthcare would be it...how'd she do?

"I saw and heard this with my own ears and eyes, and yes it was true, at least up to that point most of the questions were being asked first to Hillary" - did you also listen when Tim threw up the question on Iraq / Al Qaida and she couldn't wait to answer first?

Puh-lease


what "he said " fuck the white man" and it is on tape. hey throw the guy out" looks lke to me, he might be a plant, from the folks we are fighting. all the talk he spits out, with nothing to back it up, he is my friend all done!

Posted by: shane | March 15, 2008 1:43 PM


This (see above comment) is exactly why Hillary is losing so bad to Obama.


PS - Where Are The Swamp Censors At Today?!?!


I can't believe these garbage BS swearing comments from the Clinton cheerleaders are being printed...


America: back to the 1800s. Will this country grow up, with all its wealth?


When Bob Kerrey announced his support for Hillary's campaign, he talked only about Obama, trying to imply his Muslim links. He could not have made that endorsment speech without direction and consent from Hillary.
Hillary lost 91% of black votes. She decided to get more white votes by creating racially charged conflict, because she can't win black votes anyway. That's why Ferraro spoke about racial issue. Hillary distanced herself mildly from Ferraro, but she initiated this racial conflict, to get some white voters.
Elections are about getting votes, not about being likable.


Imagine this. To the rest of the world many of you sound as if you'll do and say ANYTHING to discredit a person with darker skin than your own.

You are ALL Americans - you are practically all foreigners in your land.
Why are you so hung up on race? Is there something wrong with you? Are you sick? Thank goodness there are some Americans who are not so stupid. Americans have been the laughing stock of Europe for years. Thanks to the entrance of Obama - and because of some of you - we now get a chance to hear that you are not all indeed fucked up on race.

I don't know if he'll make a good president or not. Frankly I don't care - but for all of our sakes STOP GOING ON AD INFINITUM ABOUT HIS RACE. IT IS TIRESOME. YOU SOUND LIKE IDIOTS.

Earlier in these comments, someone offered up a swamp for sale. I hope its big enough for all of the stupidest of you. We've had enough of your crap. Prove to six billion people that you are not frightened of the shadows of your own making.


I am amazed at how reticulated these comments are! There is no bar how foulmouth one can be when it comes to Hillary; or how quickly one picks up points to criticize her. But if it relates to Obama, these guys appear be-seiged by Obama's sheen and left speechless and they accept verbatim if Obama defends his position. This is becoming whimsical and a child's play; we might end up with the second best, Obama.
At this juncture, we need a much more seasoned and politically tested and the best choice Hillary to step up to plate and undo all that is not working. My countrymen, be fair to her and refrain from discrediting Hillary for anything and everything. Let us go to Hillary as our best choice.


Sadly, racism does still exist in this country. The question is how do we get beyond a system that is inherently flawed on so many different levels (socially, economically, etc...). I applaud Barack for not making his candidacy about race. Hillary, on the other hand, as stated on several occasions how her run for president would be a plus for women all across this country. Gender politics, much like race politics, particularly for a woman who is married to a former president should not be used to get votes.

What I think is interesting is that no one seems to talk about how Barack has had to run against a former first lady AND her husband who was once president (two terms). If you ask me, what he as been able to do against a well established political machine is remarkable.

Is there a double standard? Yes, and he has proven himself to be an individual who can rise above it, and do it in a manner that is befitting of a president of the United States. He has shown himself ready in part thanks to the ugly politics brought on by his own party. Thanks Mr. Former President and Sen. Clinton.


The double standard is obvious to everyone.

The media hasn't vetted Obama becuase of his backgorund which has been a disservice to the voters.
Rezko corruption connections and the lack of improvement in slum housing would have been covered long ago.

Until it is a color blind nation and media there will be problems.


I agree in part with most of what was said in this article, however, eventually John McCain will have to deal with some of this when he has to campaign against one of those two. I just wonder how Hillary or Obama are gonna behave against a traditional candidate. You could play the race or gender card against McCain but I don't think it will work on him. I think he's smart enough to have already worked a strategy against either of them playing those sorts of games.
The fact is that neither of them have done much to represent their race or gender very well as of late. I really don't know how either of them stand on issues because of these distractions. This leads me to believe they do not have many solutions nor strategies for the nation's problems. It would not take much for McCain to out class them right now.
For those who don't want to vote for McCain, the independents are looking better and better. Forget race or gender. How about America's first real third party Prez in modern times? It would be a big twist of fate I know. (Big Smile)


Southern Liberal: I agree with most of your posting except the reference to Obama as a "known racist." Where did you get that from? In any event, I agree that the issue of race should be brought to the forefront and discussed in a constructive and meaningful way. As an African Amercian, I am beginning to believe that given all of the hypocrisy about the Democratic party being as progressive as it claims to be and how racist, exclusionist, and xenophobic the Repubican party is claimed to be, John McCain, with all his flaws, is starting to look better and better. I would rather have John McCain than Obama or Clinton at this stage of the game. The Democrats already control both house of Congress and are doing a piss poor job at it. I think to turn over the White House to the Dems, particularly with all of this racial and gender tension brewing, would be a disservice to the people of this nation. The Democratic party doesn't appear so "big tent" after all. I don't think John McCain, Obama or Clinton should be responsible for the comments of third parties that they repudiate. Guilt by assocation is a poor reason to attack someone. In any event, let the Republicans take the White House, because the Democrats have a lot of issues and house cleaning to do.


To the fundamental point...Barack has made "judgment" the bedrock of his campaign. Over and over again this is the primary credential he and his surrogates (most of whom despise the Clintons because they themselves could not make it to the White House...Kerry and Kennedy...just to name two) tout as his virtue for winning the democratic nomination. Where was this judgment when Mr. Obama attended a hate-mongering church for over 20 years. He claims he was unaware of said sermons. If this is true (impossible as it seems) do we want a President who appears to be that out of the loop? Additionally, where was this messianic judgment when he knowingly had financial dalings with a man under indictment by a federal grand jury? Good judgment would defer to discretion. Now Obama admits Rezko was THE primary bankroller of every one of his campaigns. To this I can only say...JUDGMENT INDEED!!!!


I am a white woman who raised a black son in white America. We had our struggles from both whites and blacks but overall people were willing to accept us on our merit as human beings and judge us by the company we kept. On the occasions we were subjected to hateful behavior it came from both sides. I had to explain prejudice to my son when he was only six years old. But it was the black’s treatment of me was far worse and on two occasions I was physically attacked. My son never knew about these incidents and has grown into a fine man, color blind in his judgments of people. He never bought into selling out on either of his heritages…after all he is as much white as black.

We would do well to judge Obama on his behavior, beliefs and associations –put aside his color. His closest associates and confidants over the years have been shady, radical, and anti-American. If that were Hilary or McCain they would be out of the race. My collective "white guilt" does not extend to putting someone in most powerful position in the world just so I can avoid being labeled a racist. The audacity of my hope is that the best man or woman wins and Obama is simply not that man. His true colors can be summed up in "Fuck the white man".


RE: parkwell's comments about his inspiring people because of his talents and work: I agree he is a talented, charismatic speaker. Other than that he MUST be judged on his character and past accomplishments. On the latter, can you please articulate exactly what they are? We already know his autobiography (hey, he has sold a lot of books) is bogus in it racial theme.


Isn't it wonderful that over 200 years as a nation, we have an African-American and a woman vying for a major party nomination for President? There is little doubt that all the negatives that have risen to the surface so far result from our inexperience in dealing with such a groundbreaking event. We need to remain mindful of our position as the world's greatest democracy and how much, despite the destructive efforts of Carl Rove, George Bush, and their cohorts, that most of us value our country's greatness and its example to the world. Instead of bashing the candidates for their gender and race, let's focus on the issues and how the candidates propose to face them (and not necessarily at 3 am). In doing so, it is legitimate to consider experience, but a candidate lacking experience is not necessarily unqualified to be President, as was clearly demonstrated by the Presidency of Abraham Lincoln, our nation's greatest leader. Let's listen to the candidates ideas without launching character attacks. The idea of our popular form of government is that the electorate gets to make a considered and free deliberation concerning who they wish to represent them. We can do that without all the mud.


OK now some idiot is talking about assassinating Obama--where is the monitor? I feel like an idiot for even reading this garbage. This is a sickness guys, sitting on these sites all day hating hating hating. It's very sad that there are so many hateful angry people. That's it for me.


I started out a supported of Hillary, however I'm not sure I really want her or Former President Clinton, back in the White House. I'm actually pretty tired of him injecting himself back into presidential politics. I would like to have fresh ideas and someone not tied to the current policies. Let's face it, I'm not sure John McCain would be able to break away (far enough) from the current policies to be the pragmatist he once appeared to be. I'm not saying I wouldn't vote for him, however I'm not sure what he plans to do as president beside stay in Iraq or bomb Iran.


The biggest thing I hate about Obama...playing the race card every chance he gets. I'll show you the examples.

1. Bill Clinton calls Obama's position on the Iraq war a "fairy tale" Obama calls media, tells them its racist.

2. Bob Johnson (BET Owner and Black man) States the fact that Obama did drugs. Obama slaps the Clinton Campaign with the race card.

3. Bill Clinton states a fact when he compares Jesse Jacksons win with Obama's in South Carolina. Both won by winning the majority of the black vote. He could have said just like me but that would have given Obama his credibility and that would be a mistake in a campaign against your wife. Media picks it up and calls it racist.

4. Hillary says that Martin Luthers dreams were realized when LBJ passed the legislation and said that it took him to do it. Obama camp picks the statement apart and feeds the media a story that Hillary was racist because she said that MLK didn't do anything. Not true but media is fawning over Obama then.

5. Geraldine Ferrora states a fact when she says that Obama is lucky that he is black because it has benefited him and the concept of a black man winning is a winning one. Also states that she benefited also by being a woman. She says this in the smallest newspaper in the world and Obama camp gets it, slaps her with the race card and forces 3 days of stories on it.

6. Hillary's 3 a.m. ad is written about by a black man (Patterson) saying that the ad was racist because it was white children in the commercial and it implied that their was a black man waiting outside their bedroom waiting to break in.He compares Hillary to the KKK. Patterson didn't even pay enough attention to the ad to notice that there was a black child in the ad.

7. After the Geraldine Ferraro ordeal Obama backer and mouthpiece Keith Olbermann compares the Clinton Campaign and Geraldine Ferraro to David Duke (head of the KKK) Even though Ferraro did not have any role in the campaign other than the fact she was a supporter.

8. Jeremiah Wright story breaks on networks after a year of reporting on this from Fox News and Anderson Cooper apologizes for even doing a story about him after they have also done three days of stories on Ferraro calling her comments race baiting. The same people that were outraged about what she said are now defending Wrights sermons as "A black church thing" and basically excuses his words. Also they leave out clips that a bashing the Clinton's and leave out transcripts of a sermon were Jeremiah Wright calls Natalie Holloway (Teen that was murdered in Aruba on her senior trip and lived 30 minutes from me) a SLUT.

I think its time the journalist of this country do their job and tell the American people the truth and to tell the Obama campaign that Geraldine was right. They aren't going to get away with playing the race card anymore. I'm sick of this.


I would rather see a Nigger in the White House than a Bitch. I feel that we need that Raghead Islamo-Nigger Rapper leading Amerika. Have you seen him Dance?? But I'd also Much prefer that Fat Old hormonal Bitch Witch leading this debt-ridden militaristic/terrorist nation than an OLD pasty-face psychotic seemingly on the verge of a crack-up every time he speaks. That deeply disturbed nut just wants to redeem his macho warmongering credentials because he got captured and missed his war. So who will you vote for? Hope = the Nigger Boy, Economic Fear = the Groady Bitch, or Terrorist Fear = the Twisted and Unstable OLD man trying to get it up?


Subject: The Truth About Barack Obama!
As enthusiastic volunteers in the Barack Obama campaign for the Presidency, we have put together a list of facts about Barack so that you will know the truth about him. Please follow the links we have included for documentation of these facts. If you value the truth as we do, please forward this information to everyone you know.

Did you know that Barack Obama is a devout Christian? He has been a member of the same United Church of Christ congregation for 20 years, and was married there to his wife Michelle in 1992.
Did you know that Barack Obama often leads the US Senate in the Pledge of Allegiance?
Did you know that Barack Obama is a strong friend of Israel and has spoken out strongly against anti-Semitism?
Did you know his grandparents from Kansas were part of the "Greatest Generation?. His grandfather served with Patton's Army during World War II, and his grandmother, a real "Rosy the Riveter", worked in a bomber assembly plant back home?
Did you know that Barack Obama was opposed to the war in Iraq from day one, before we invaded, even while he was running for the Senate, and knowing his opposition might be politically unpopular? "I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world and strengthen the recruitment arm of al Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars." --Barack Obama, 2002

Did you know Obama favors transparency over secrecy in our government? Did you know that Obama worked with Republican Sen. Colburn to pass one of the strongest government transparency bills since the freedom of information act? He's calling it Google for Government and you can see the results at www.fedspending.org. Sen. Obama has also released his own tax returnsfor public review.
Did you know that after graduating with honors from Harvard Law School, Barack practiced civil rights law and also taught Constitutional Law for 10 years at the University of Chicago, one of the nation's best law schools, where he was consistantly rated by his students as one of their best instructors? Did you also know that he was the first African-American elected president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review?
Did you know that Barack Obama is an outspoken advocate for women's rights and has been a principled defender of the civil rights of women?
Did you know that despite the grueling schedule of running for President, Senator Obama remains a devoted family man, making time to do things like pick out a Christmas tree with his wife and two young daughters, or hurrying home to spend Valentine's Day with them? Did you know he hasn't missed a single parent-teacher conference while running for President?
Did you know that Barack Obama has a stellar environmental record, including having the highest rating from the League of Conservation Voters (96%) of any Presidential candidate, Democrat or Republican?
Did you know that Barack Obama has been an elected legislator longer than Senator Clinton?
Did you know that Barack is a member of all of these Senate Committees: Foreign Relations; Veteran's Affairs; Health, Education, Labor & Pensions; Homeland Security and Government Affairs?
Did you know that Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become law, and has introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted since he joined the Senate in 2005?
Did you know that Senator Obama sponsored legislation working together with Indiana Republican Senator Richard Lugar, to keep Americans safe by keeping dangerous weapons out of terrorist hands? The two senators also visited the former Soviet Union to inspect the decommissioning of nuclear weapons. Sen. Lugar said of Sen. Obama, "He does have a sense of idealism and principled leadership, a vision of the future."
Did you know that Barack Obama is the only candidate running for president who voted against using cluster bombs in Iraq and the only candidate who supports banning the use of landmines?
Did you know that, as an Illinois state senator, Barack Obama succeeded in passing legislation requiring the videotaping of police interrogations, gaining the respect and support not only of fellow legislators but that of the police, who had initially opposed the legislation?
Did you know that Theodore Roosevelt, Grover Cleveland, Ulysses S. Grant, John F. Kennedy, and Bill Clinton were all younger when taking office than Barack Obama will be?


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I agree with all of those who correctly point out the REAL double standard...it's a gang up on Obama now fueled by a racist double standard. He's asked to denounce Farrakhan, he denounces Wright.
But when McCain gets the endorsement of Hagee -- who is anti-Catholic and preaches that the Catholic Church is the antichrist -- McCain gets away with keeping his endorsement AND just saying "I don't agree with all he says."
Why doesn't the media unleash a feeding frenzy on McCain? Show all of Hagee's sick sermons.
Now important issues like the Iraq war, economy and health care are getting lost in the double standard. Showing once again racism hurts everyone.


Greetings:

Let me tell you all a story:

Lets talk about the "Good Old Days"...

The days when a little girl's only goal in life was to grow up and become a devoted, stay at home and do what was proper, loving wife.
She wouldn't never think for herself...Only for the man in her life and of course the children.

The good old days where the negro would stay "where they belong" be that near the tracks or the back of the bus.
The few times that you did see them on tv or in the movies they were always played "their roles" You know the type-Maid, Sidekick, Driving some old lady around...etc. And their music...What nasty noise that stuff was...

Now you're trying to tell me that some simple woman or some hot shot negro wants to become the next President!

Ha!

Next time you see Hillary Don't judge her by her hair style,the clothes she has on, the makeup!
What her husband did/didn't do. Listen to what she has to say! Burn those Bras!

Next time you see Obama-
Don't judge him by the color of his skin! What he may or may have not done 20 year ago! Listen to what he has to say! Black Power!

This may have been written by some old guy name McCain...


forget it.....its the enviroment, stupid.....earth first....all ways.....


Not long ago, blacks were turned away from all white churches, which still exist in 2008. It's not unusual for black ministers to constantly remind us that racism still exist in this country. Until you walk in a black man shoes, you can't possibly know what he goes through each and everyday of his life! It's not easy being called a nigger, a boy, colored, Negro (nigra as some would say), lynched or put in prison for 28 years or more, just to have DNA prove 28 years later, that you didn't commit this or that crime. White people are in denial about racism in this country. Black people are living it! No, we cannot forget our past, nor do we wish to re-live it. Senator Obama is trying to bring people together rather than put anymore divisions between the races. Some whites seem to fear this so they are now trampling on our right to freedom of religion?
I have but one request from whites in this country who are in denial when it comes to racism in America. Take a look at the make up of Congress and tell me how many black Senators or House of Representatives members are seated there. Are these not our lawmakers? Look at your own state legislative body. How many blacks, if any? Now, take a look at the prison system and see how many whites are there? hmmmmm interesting.

To note, Bill Clinton poured more money into the prison system than any other President. Then he gave us, so graciously, the three strikes you're out law. Don't get me wrong, I don't condone criminal behavior. I just know that the Justice System in this country is not fair to minorities. If it was fair, Bill Clinton's pardon lists would not be that long and Bush and Cheney would be cell mates.


Obama is a great inspirational speaker, but his actions speak louder than his words!


Double standard? I think not. People make comments because that's the way they feel deep inside but certain comments are better off not said at all. As for Barack he is taking all the hit for this nonsense. First they say he is a Muslim and now they say he is too Christian taken religious advice from his Pastor and many more balderdash. Barack will always be Barack and will not be influenced by such comments. He has rejected his pastor's comment like Hillary has rejected Geraldine's comment's so let's move on. These candidates don't have any control over their supporters. The media is taking these stories out of proportion and enough is enough. This is pure negative politics and frankly I am getting sick and tired of it.


If you only get your information from the news then your an idiot you should do what is expected of all voters and research what the candidates have done in the past because that will indicate how they will perform in the future...stop listening to the pep rally press....


Senator Obama's close relationship with his mentor Reverend Wright cuts a deep hole in his campaign's key message of change and unity- of one America, etc.
This campaign is in deep trouble of imploding over the next several weeks.


Hillary haters will always hate her regardless of who or what she is, it is about their hatred, and not about her.

Obama has never been treated fairly by the main stream media, he has always been given the upperhand.

What we see now is the main stream media being forced to address this issue, which is an old issue, (at least four months old) The main stream media would have swept it under the carpet, if they had their choice.

The danger of this is that they gave President Bush the upperhand for 7 years! Now look where we are!

Obama is finally being held to the same standard that Hillary has been held to since her first lady days.

Obama has been sunk, not by white racist, but by black racist! His preacher can now thank himself for "screwing the blackman" and can nolonger claim it is Bill Clinton doing to them what he did to Monica.

Rev. Wright, has screwed the blackman! Obama WAS the front runner, where is the racist in that? Rev. Wright changed that, with his racism!!!


The people enamored by Obama are braindead tools. People say hes good looking, are you looking at the same lemur I am? Look at his huge ears and wierd face. WOW HE CAN SPEAK WELL!!!

Big deal, where does he stand on the issues? Nowhere. He has negative things to say about whites, Indians and many other groups but he never says them upfront and the media never goes into it because they are too scared. These brainless Obamorons will ruin America!


Hillary and Bill Clinton have made a significant issue about how the press is treating Hillary unfairly in their hyper-critical reporting on her and their “softball” reporting on Barack Obama. Hillary maintains she has been fully investigated by the media and Barak hasn’t!

As the Tony Rezko trial begins in Chicago, Clinton and her surrogates are linking Obama to Rezko and the media is speculating about whether Obama will be called to testify as a witness in the case. Obama has always admitted he received $85,000 in contributions from Rezko which Obama has now donated to charity rather than keep.

Yet the civil fraud trial of Bill Clinton for defrauduing Hillary’s largest donor in 2000 into giving her campaign more than $1.2 million, pending in Los Angeles courts since 2003, is now preparing for a November, 2008 trial. The discovery that is now proceeding after a February 21 hearing, and the pending trial, have NEVER been announced by the mainstream media.

Hillary was able to extricate herself as a co-defendant in the case in January, 2008 after years of appeals to be protected by the First Amendment from tort claims arising out of federal campaign solicitations she made. Her abuse of the intent of California’s anti-SLAPP law after the California Supreme Court refused to dismiss her from the case in 2004 is emblematic of her contempt for the Rule of Law.

Hillary will be called as a witness in both discovery and the trial according to the trial court Judge who so-advised Hillary’s attorney David Kendall when he dismissed Hillary as a co-defendant in 2007. A subpoena is being prepared this month and will be served personally on Hillary, along with Chelsea, Pa Gov. Ed Rendell, Al Gore and other well known political and media figures.

Yet the media has refused to report about this landmark civil fraud case- brought by Hillary’s biggest 2000 donor to her Senate race, regarding allegations that were corroborated by the Department of Justice in the criminal trial of Hillary’s finance director David Rosen in May, 2005. That indictment and trial was credited as resulting from the civil suit’s allegations by Peter Paul, the Hollywood dot com millionaire Bill Clinton convinced to donate more than $1.2 million (according to the DOJ prosecutors and the FBI) to Hillary’s Senate campaign as part of a post White House business deal with Bill.

The media - except for World Net Daily- has also suspiciously refused to report on Hillary’s last FEC report regarding her 2000 Senate campaign, filed in January 30, 2006. In a secret settlement of an FEC complaint by the plaintiff in Paul v Clinton, Peter Paul, the FEC fined Hillary’s campaign $35,000 for hiding more than $720,000 in donations from Paul, and it required Hillary’s campaign to file a 4th amended FEC report.

In that report Hillary and her campaign again hid Paul’s $1.2 million contribution to her campaign and falsely attributed $250,000 as being donated by Paul’s partner, Spider Man creator Stan Lee, who swore in a video taped deposition he never gave Hillary or her campaign any money.

Lee did testify to trading $100,000 checks with Paul to make it appear he gave $100,000 to Hillary’s campaign (admission of a felony) but none of that has been reported by the “overly critical” media!

Where is the outrage from Obama that the press is engaging in a double standard relating to his possible role in the Rezko trial and his refunding the $85,000 contributed to his campaign by Rezko- which Obama has always admitted taking. The media makes no mention of Hillary’s role as a witness in Bill’s fraud trial for defrauding Hillary’s largest donor- and Hillary’s refusal to refund the $1.2 million she illegally received from Paul, which she has denied taking from Paul ever since the Washington Post asked her about Paul and his felony convictions from the 1970’s before her first Senate election in 2000?

Let the truth be told, see the video of Hillary commiting crimes at www.hillcap.org

And to those that like to get brainwashed by the media, like CNN (Clinton News Network) lets be real. We know churches are not 20 years talking about the same thing, the media gathered up those few clips. Do I think the pastor is a bit racist, there’s no doubt about it. But to link Obama with the Pastor, No. First of all, people are forgetting (Maybe because of his color) that OBAMA is WHITE and BLACK! As much as people want to make Obama un-American…. he is not. Youtube videos showing him not Pledge to the flag? First of all he and the audience were the only smart people that knew that was not the pledge of allegiance, plus was the only one singing it when Clinton and the others didn’t even know the song. I friend of mines I knew for 23 years murdered two people, I hate him for doing such stupidity, but he was part of the family, and I see him like twice every year. But that doesn’t make me a murderer. I never knew or seen my cuz do anything criminal. It didn’t make my wife switch her mind on being with me, that because I’m my own person. People should pay attention to what Obama says and not his pastor, so as much as you want to make it look like Obama is un-American. That is such a Clinton!!! in other words such a LIE! I mean just look at her latest lie about her experience with Children health care, BUSTED!!! The Clinton were forced by the real people in SCHIP and they weren’t ready, and now they are taking all the credit that they created it.

VISIT WWW.HILLCAP.ORG TO CHECK OUT THE VIDEOS OF HER COMMITTING CRIMES


I'm ready for a break-the-ratings-records debate with the various 'spiritual advisors' of the candidates.

A few that I know of:
McCain: Rod Parsley and John Hagee
Obama: Jeremiah Wright
Clinton: Eleanor Roosevelt

My the end of the debate, I'd guess McCain supporters would be rethinking their support.


The only clear thing about this race is that the Republicans will win again.
I don't believe Obama is a bad person. I don't believe Ms. Clinton is a bad person. I believe that democrats cannot, even when everything is at stake, win a presidential election. So we lose. Everybody loses. Go ahead, keep blaming each other, keep hating either of them. Do your worst. Let's circle the wagons and then shoot at each other.


Anyone notice that Leno and Letterman have had great fun in their monologs with every candidate except Obama?

Both were on "live" last week but evidently, they just couldn't come up with anything funny about Obama.

Last Night,
Letterman's "McCain looks like the old guy in Baskin Robbins who can't make up his mind" was so funny it put me into a coma, thankfully.

Seriously, this is the scariest thing I have ever witnessed in all my years.


I SEE ALL THE RACISTS GUNS AIMING AT OBAMA THE AFICAN-AMERICAN,LITTERALLY AFRICAN[FATHER'S SIDE] & AMERICAN[BIRTH+MOTHER'S SIDE]...OBAMA IS YOURS AMERICAN,THE GUY IS BOTH WHITE-BLACK,RAISED BY WHITE PEOPLE!!!


The only black in US history to get this far in the Presidential nominating process is said (by Geraldine Ferraro) to have gotten this far because -- he's black? There is a double standard here -- being black means you can't win; being black is the only reason you're winning -- but it's not the one the writer is pointing to.


If Barack HUSSIEN Obama is the democratic nomination for president. The Swift Boat Ads against John Kerry will look like a Disney Movie.


Thank God for the internet and email. The American people would never have learned the truth about the 20-year relationship between the Rev. Wright and Senator Obama had it not been for the internet.


Well mr. obama has taken the al gore plan of promising on 90% stuff he cant deliver. I am still waiting for one of the obama supporters to clearly state what his message really is. We all know change must come..is that a message? I believe not. I guess being politically correct from a media perspective, he has been the media darling this whole time..of course it gives ppl a false sense of whom he really is. I say hillary is no better but at lease we know what their game is. Its funny that now that the truth is surfacing on mr. obama and the media darling is wearing off it's a racist issue. Black ppl who don't care about either candidate vote for barrack hands down, white ppl who want to be viewed politically correct vote for obama. Not all but a huge portion of those inactive actual presidential voters. Lets be realistic ask any black person why they vote for obama and they'll say "well he's black". The man gives good speeches but that's it...no vote in opportunities where his decision can come back to haunt him does not equate into a good president, just shows you are a coward!


Heather, I agree with your post. RM, I disagree with your conclusion, but respect your approach to this discussion. I agree with the posts that point out the disservice that the media, especially the 24 hr. news stations, have done to this campaign. There is an absurd feeding frenzy that occurs when the 24 hr. stations get a hold of anything titillating. I confess to being a political junkie this election season, but the stuff we are being presented over and over ad nauseum makes American Idol look like high culture in comparison. The Rev. Wright clips are worthy of criticism--but they should be seen in context, which is unfortunately missing. It's like watching the most salacious part of an argument without looking at what led up to it or the consequences, if any, that follow from it. They're out there to provoke emotional reactions. In a courtroom, they would be objected to as irrelevant and prejudicial and would not be admitted into evidence. There is no evidence that Obama heard them. There is no evidence that they had any impact on him, if he in fact heard them. They were apparently cherrypicked from many sermons which included "God bless America" language and peaceful and hopeful language. Why is that? Is that fair to anyone--Rev. Wright, Obama, the American voting public? There are so many vile motives assumed on all sides. It is disheartening. Whispering campaigns deserve disdain, but also pity for those who believe that's the only way they can have empowerment when they fear that the future may bring changes they aren't comfortable with. It is so hard to keep focussed on the issues when all these emotionally charged distractions are being given center stage by the media. But then the issues are cerebral (though with emotional ramifications). And the Democratic candidates--when all the hype is set aside--are not too much in disagreement. The variations seem to lie more with personalities, questions about "judgment" versus "experience" (and the truth therein), and--unfortunately--the "issues" of race and sex in America. The media dabbles with all of the above, but gets the most for its money when it can stir up the worst "us versus them" instincts that makes me realize that evolution hasn't progressed much past our cave man tribalism days. Am I depressed? You bet. I am an Obama supporter (a white, 60 year old female). I hope America has evolved, but some of these blogs make me despair. How can we expect the Sunnis and Shiites and Kurds to reconcile their differences--or the Palestinians and the Jews--when this nonsense is taking place here? I believe that Obama has handled himself remarkably well. I hope he goes home and curses as much as he wants at the end of the day, when the cameras aren't on him. Hillary seems to change her attitude with the audience and the news cycle. If she found her voice in New Hampshire, she appears to have found several different voices along the way. I find Obama's attitude to be reassuringly consistent. And that has nothing to do with race or gender!


I Voted For Hilary Clinton
But camparing Jeremiah Wright to John McCain Minister ,,You
Can not compare,,, John McCain,, the minister he know just gave him Money,,he does not Go to his church,,, He did not Baptise john McCain kids,,, he is not on John McCain Campaign,, Just gave John McCain money,,, to compare him with Jeremiah Wright is something the Media, and the Obama Camapaign,, doing,,Barack Obama Has a Racist man who worked on his Campaign,, Jeremiah Wright, ,, who helped Barack with the title of his book,,, who baptise his kids, Barack Obama Miinister, gave Louis Farrahkan life time achievement award, ,,, Barack Obama who went to this Racist mans church,,, for 20 years,

Whats even sad is Barack Obama, followers don’t even Care, He can run over a person right now ,,, and people will still follow him,,, but one thing is for certain Barack no matter what, just lost this election,,, even if he wins the primary,,, from Hilary,,, Barack can not win a big state, Hilary followers will not back Barack Obama,,, just like if Hilary wins the primary,,, Barack Obama followers will not back Hilary ,,,,,
Obama is definitely Muslim, but he is a closet Racist, who employed a racist,, of all Racist, ,,,,, he is done
Watch Obama weblink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prhnc2fxAzg&feature=related%20...%20http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4YxPBAkfp4&feature=related


Whites would be crazy to vote for Obama. Anyone would be crazy to vote for Hillary. Patriotic thinking Americans will vote for the man who knows duty, honor, country.


CLINTON IN TROUBLE.. the tax office of clinton who monitor clinton libery is been MURDER.. and the TV are not mention it yet.. It over for clinton..

The FBI are investigating the murder.. and the media are not mentioning it..

see news below

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aid=103766.54928.115895


Barack Hussein Obama...

Son of a Muslim.

No known significant accomplishments.

Freshman Senator.

Ties to a racist minister and anti-semite LouisFarrahkan.

Ties to a corrupt businessmen Rezco.

Past that included use of illegal drugs.

Brewing sex and drug scandal that hasn't hit mainstream media yet.

Leightweight/media darling.

No qualifications, none.

...and this is the guy some people inexplicibly want as the next President. Boogles the mind. I admire Hillary more and more for taking the BS thrown at her by the biased media and sticking to her guns. She knows she deserves the nomination, she knows it is best for the country and she knows her opponent won't hold up under scrutiny. His supporters are delusional, no question about that.

Obama should be exposed for who he really is. Who in the media will be the first brave enough to admit that they were wrong about him? We'll see.


Besides praising Farakkan without also denouncing his anti-semitic comments, what is the big deal with pastor Wright's comments on race? I am white and I have read a history book. Too many people want to feel that their privilege is merely the result of their superior intelligence and virtue. This country was founded upon racism...and not only against blacks. And vast inequalities in wealth, power, and status remain to this day. We can only conclude that either 1) minority groups are genetically predisposed to being oppressed or 2) this country continues to be built upon structural inequality. This is not a question of whether or not whites have bigoted attitudes. Minority groups have been historically oppressed and have not been granted equality nor the means necessary to heal from the multi-dimensional effects of oppression.


Barack is the only chance of racial healing in AMERICA!


If Obama didn't have double standards, he wouldn't have any standards!. He and his church are just as racist in their views. Rev. Wright fails to acknowledge the progress made by this country in regards to race. He continues to live in the past, and sadly, so do his followers. Obviously, they are too lazy to exercise their own intelligence.


Obama will be blacker than Willie Horton by election day if he is the Democratic Party nominee. McCain will stand quietly aside as the swift boaters take Obama apart.There are a large number of voters that will not vote for a black man no matter what they say.
The press has been afraid to criticize Obama.However, the swift boaters will lead the press around just as they did against Kerry.
The Republican campaign will be rotten, despicable and successful. Menken, "no one ever went broke by under estimating the intelligence of the American public"


Different Standard: Ask any non white person YES! the standards are different. That said, MaCain's camp stirred this pot, they are the ones that bright this to light. Should Obama distance himself, yes and he has done that. Wrights comment are no less out of bounds as the crazy things right wing ministers say ALL the time.
Why ask Obama to defend something so blatantly wrong when other ministers can say they hate Jes, Catholics, Mormons, I am sure that hating these folks is just what they utter in public and in private, they say they hate blacks, Mexicans, and anyone that does not look like them. Come on, Obama is half WHITE, and that half was the loved , respected and gave him a home. Double Standard? Let’s look at the death threats that he gets, he is tested. IMHO the threats exist just like they did for Barry Bonds, did Brett Farve get death threats? Minority men, especially BLACK (looking) minority men perform under far more pressure that most. Let this die!.

Wright in all his wrongness serviced his country - is he in raged and looney? I think so.

We need to focus on how many Americans died in this war today?... this week?
We have only NPR with the courage to show the death toll

Why the media is not as up in arms about Clinton's tax records?

What actual experience does she have?

How did Canada get the NAFTA story so wrong, and why was the media not before rushing to call out Obama's advisers?

How was the media so dupped by the white house in the build up to the war?

We have no idea because it is easier to flame the silliness of deep seeded hate in America with talk of Obama being a Muslim, Black Nationalist, name Hussein that has sometimes gotten nuts mouthing off.

Bush has had several religious nuts say wacky unattractive things.
Anti-abortionist feel they can blow up clinics all under the blanket of religion.
Heck, we are in a war because some want to bring democracy = Christianity to places.

McCain has zealots , Obama has zealots and Clinton is a zealot what I want to know is how to get the economy going, personally I hate the Gas prices, but gladly pay it rather than one more drop of American blood be shed in a senseless war. We need jobs, our entire infrastructure is in shambles, Bridges are falling down, and FEMA still does not work, the Katrina trailers are making folks ill; in some states houses sit empty surely the government could offer these to the Katrina folks.

Meanwhile, I am not as outraged by the religious wackos as I am with Bush’s lame excuses on nearly everything that comes out of his mouth. American dollar is oat an all time low. We are putting more folks here out of work and at the same time the media is pretty much silent about our taxes going to build/rebuild and finance some other country that does not want our help.

Please – judge ALL the candidates on what they have done in their professional life.


Obama's association with Pastor Wright is of serious concern. He may have repudiated the pastor's anti-American, racist comments, once they were brought to light (again)during this political race, but he has elected to remain a part of the 6000 member church due to his longstanding ties to it, and the fact that Wright is retiring and a new pastor will be ascending the pulpit. And yet, just this past Friday, the church itself, issued a statement basically defending Wright - this same church to which Obama has recommitted himself - saying, as quoted from an AP article on the same:
:Friday, the United Church of Christ issued a 1,400-word statement defending Wright and his "flagship" congregation. The statement lauded Wright's church for its community service and work to nurture youth and the pastor for speaking out against homophobia and sexism in the black community.

"It's time for all of us to say no to these attacks and to declare that we will not allow anyone to undermine or destroy the ministries of any of our congregations in order to serve their own narrow political or ideological ends," John H. Thomas, United Church of Christ's president, said in the statement.

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AP Religion Writer Eric Gorski in Denver contributed to this report."


This, to me, is very troublesome and a potential sign of thoughts, perceptions and perhaps ideologies that exist below the surface of Barack Obama...all of which aren't politically advantageous for him to reveal at this time, but will likely continue to influence him in his life, regardless of whether or not he manages to clinch election to the presidency of the United States

Voter beware.


What double standard and hyprocracy the Obama camp have exhibited. Race card was trumped 2 days ago against G. Ferraro for saying the obvious (seen unfairly as racist against black). H. Clinton apologised profusely for "guilt by association" (very tame remarks from a respectable female trailblazer from her heart). 2 days later, H. Clinton and her husband was thrashed by Obama's pastor for their "white" colour in much stronger and wrongful terms, and for all those who are white vs 9/11, Obama and his camp only have to distanced himself from his paster (far more closely related to him than Ferraro to clinton)...well not a word of apology to the Clintons was asked or offered from either Obama, his supporters or the entire press core. What double standards and hypocracy. Unfortunately, race and gender have to be boldly faced without recrimination if either are trumped in a presidential election. You can't have lopsided bias against racism (1-way), not 2-way, not against sexism!!


Its funny but if someone running for/in office has an R after their the new outlets can say and do about anything they want. But, if its a D its not fair how funny is that.


Obama has been running a campaign based on "experience, superior judgement, inspiration, and change". After what's been going on over the past few weeks let's she how he's done on those qualities.

Expeience is clearly thin. Yes, I've hear all about those bills he's wrtten, but most never made it out of committee or ended up significantly changed. Besides, most of those bills are prepared by others, and he just tacks on his name. No international experience to speak of, and national governement is at a minimum since he began running for president almost as soon as he became senator.

Superior judgement - he got lucky on Iraq. His association with the likes of Rezko, Wright and the Philadelphia mayoral candidate makes him look naive and poor personal judgement even if he's squeaky clean.

Inspiration - that he's still got. Obama is a damn good speaker when he's got a script. He's done much more poorly when speaking on debates and off the cuff. Still, great gift of communications.

Change, I don't think so. It feels more and more like he's just another politician. Can we have a do-over and bring back some of the other candidates?


There is a worrisome aspect for obama campaign.
Nobody wants the 3 am decision maker to be a follower who did not know his preacher for twenty years. The answer to the 3am call hopefully will not be what the preacher said :
God damn america and the chickens have come too roost.
He should have denounced the preacher not when media exposed him but on 9/11.His continuation in the senate is a grave insult to the victims of 9/11.. Even the crimes of the new york governor are miniscule compare to this.

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Of course there is a double standard. Falwell, Robertson, and Hagee have all said things just as bad. How come it was not right to question Romney about the racist past of the Mormon Church?

Richard
http://lifewithoutfaith.com


The same idiots who last week said he was a muslim, are now up in arms cause of what his minister said he damned if does and damned if he don't. Just goes to show that all these A$$ wipes are racist and will throw anything out there hoping something sticks. Obama didn't make the remarks, why is held accountable for them. When Ferraro made her remarks no one was all over Hillary for what she said. Same old crap if your Black, no matter what you have accomplished. Look at Billary she's where she is because of Bill not her experience but these old a$$ feminist don't care, just get her in at all cost, and what we'll end up with is McCain and 4 more years of Bushsh@t and I believe that's what you want. You would cut off your nose to spite your face, stupid.


The shine IS still there! Its called integrity and grace in the face of all this unnecessary garbage thrown at Obama. Everyone kept saying, including Hillary, "He's had such an easy ride. How will he handle it when the going gets rough. Well ... it's not such an easy ride now, is it. And, unlike Hillary, he is still handling himself in elegance and TRUTH. Yes, He Can!


Well you all can say what ever you want but the black people are on the rise and you think they are going to give up their new found power over any other race you have a lot more thinking to do.They see obama as their leader and he is going to lead them into power for the first time since slavory. what ever it takes to keep him there it will happen.Obama is not the devil he just works for him full time.


Why would Obama align himself for 20 years with a pastor who hates America, hates jews, and hates white people. Then Obama says he has never heard his pastor actually say those things. Twenty years and he has never heard him say those words? Come on. This is his mentor? Ask him if he thinks OJ is innocent. Michele Obama says she has never been proud of her country until now. Clearly, Barack Obama is lying. God forbid he should ever be the president.


Okay, let me get this straight and I want to believe Obama... I really do...

1. NAFT and Canada?
2. Irag pullout and advisor saying he doesn't plan to really and said this to a press outside the USA
3. Claims RACE whenever someone says something to question him.
4. Farakkan
5. His Pastor
6. Ect...
7. What's next???
8. Oh, almost forgot, his wife is only NOW proud of the good old USA?

C'mon - are we as Americans blind or something? What does it take for us to realize that maybe we were wrong about this guy and he really is as Clinton claims, just good with words... I actually liked him and am guilty of believing him like everyone else who believed him... we wanted to, but now we look like fools??? Maybe he should step aside now?


Obama had a white mother and was raised by his white family. I can't imagine that he could hate the hands that fed him, no matter what his minister might have said. If most people believed everything their minister ever said, the majority would not support a woman's right to choose. Obama is half black and half white, and the white side is the one he grew up to love when his black father wasn't there. Obama had to get in touch with being black as an adult, including going to a black church (where most of the ministers sound like Wright).


The United States has a choice of three candidates that are pretty close when it comes to policy so Americans would probably not notice much of a difference whoever is in power.

- McCain is best of the environment.
- Obama is best for foreign policy
- Hilary is best for healthcare

Obama is half black, half white; his DNA is probably between 40 and 60% black.

Clinton and McCain, like most Americans are probably between 5 and 10% black.

I suggest that any White American would would not marry a Black American, check out their genes on http://www.familytreedna.com.

If you want to hate someone, hate them because of the their actions, their words, not because pf their colour. It makes as much sense as hating someone because their are left handed, blue eyed, blonde or retarded.


Rightly or not, religion has fueled many wars and persecution – think of the Holy Roman Empire, the Crusades, the wars between Christians and Moors, the Inquisition, the conflict in Ireland, the Tibetan problem, and of course, Al Qaieda .. the list goes on and go. So yes, I think one’s religious beliefs are a window into one’s soul and yes, it is very important to consider Obama’s choice of church and minister and what this means in terms of an Obama Presidency.


The media should stop reporting this kind of nonsence, they should focus on issues and who is the best person to repair the world and America.

I love Barack Obama and he is the color of every race and he will make an excellent president.

Please stop this race baiting, it is making me sick to my stomach!

Barack Obama '08


Jenny - you're right that, "If most people believed everything their minister ever said, the majority would not support a woman's right to choose." Of more concern to me, though, is the fact that Obama's church has issued a statement *defending* Wright and his ministry. When faced with criticism over Wright's Anti-American, racist comments, they felt the need to back him up and say that anyone who criticizes Wright is attempting to undermine his ministry and the church.

And yet Obama continues on as a member of this same church.

To me that is of great concern. Actions speak louder than words, and for all his claims to "reject" what Wright said, he's still willing to support the church that defends what Wright said. Where does that leave Obama, in terms of his moreal compass?

I have tried to be open to Obama and to look seriously at his potential candidacy. It seemed impossible to me that so many seemingly intelligent individuals could be backing him so wholeheartedly without there be being something very worthwhile to get behind.

Unfortunately, the more I see the less I like. Again, I'll say, "Voter beware"...


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Because I am not familiar with Senator Obama's specific church, I cannot speak to the pastor's comments. However, it may be that the pastor is overwhelmed by the recent events involving former Congresswoman Ferraro. I know I am overwhelmed. Ms. Ferraro does not speak for me.

I'm 39. Women before me did amazing work to break glass ceilings, and I honor the women who stood up and said that there should be equal pay for equal play. I also know that there were white men who made the choice to hire and promote women. The results have been positive. Our daughters shouldn't have to worry about these things or sexual harassment in the work place. Neither should our sons.

Over the years, friends, co-workers, and family members have shared with me their distress over a certain religious leader or another on a local level. It's amazing HOW MANY religious leaders have "lost their way". (Is it because they are human?) In many of these cases, the religious leaders have become distracted with personal issues and haven't the tools to cope with the situation they find themselves in. It's strange, isn't it? We entrust educated leaders with our spiritual guidance, and sometimes those leaders forget their training.

If you had a really crappy day, week, or a severe personal struggle and mouthed off to everyone in your family, they have every reason to set you right, but they shouldn't disown you. Instead, they should reach out and do everything they can to uncover the root of your difficulties. Good physical care comes from treating the source, not the symptoms. The same applies to our spiritual health. If there is a problem, we must be diligent in our efforts to offer love to the one who is hurting.

I'm sure the pastor at the United Church of Christ in Chicago is a beloved person. At his hour of need, I would expect that his congregation would want to help him rather than toss him out. I would hope my family, friends, and community of faith would do the same for me.

Wishing you a brand new day...
Bobbie Sue


you guys got this whole presidential thing wrong its a republican setup.

alot of the independents and some republicans are voting for obama to be the democratic nominee. just check the voting statistics.

mccain has a better chance of beating obama for the presidency than hillary.

if obama wins we will have 4 more years of republican presidency.


It is increasingly clear that Obama is simply a cleaned up version of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Oh, he won't play the race card directly, he'll leave that to his subordinates. The problem is, is that fewer and fewer people are going to fall for it, leaving him only the black vote, the votes of far left white extremists, and votes from the ever declining "white guilt," portion of the population.

Farraro was right, he's only where he is because he is black. The media is so in love with the idea of a black president that they'll do anything to help him. If he were white, the media would be helping Hillary all they could.

Remember how wild the press was when it was rumored that Colin Powell was considering a presidential run some years ago? They were practically salavating over the possibility.


Oh yeah, double standard for sure. Imagine if a white man goes to a churn for 20 years where the pastor preached anti-black, this white man's political career will have certainly ended by now.


Obama is dangerous! Why does he get kid glove treatment? Because no one wants to be labeled 'racest' and any one who questions Obama is drug though the dirt and called racest unbeleiveable!!!!!


I Voted For Hilary Clinton
But camparing Jeremiah Wright to John McCain Minister ,,You
Can not compare,,, John McCain,, the minister he know just gave him Money,,he does not Go to his church,,, He did not Baptise john McCain kids,,, he is not on John McCain Campaign,, Just gave John McCain money,,, to compare him with Jeremiah Wright is something the Media, and the Obama Camapaign,, doing,,Barack Obama Has a Racist man who worked on his Campaign,, Jeremiah Wright, ,, who helped Barack with the title of his book,,, who baptise his kids, Barack Obama Miinister, gave Louis Farrahkan life time achievement award, ,,, Barack Obama who went to this Racist mans church,,, for 20 years,

Whats even sad is Barack Obama, followers don’t even Care, He can run over a person right now ,,, and people will still follow him,,, but one thing is for certain Barack no matter what, just lost this election,,, even if he wins the primary,,, from Hilary,,, Barack can not win a big state, Hilary followers will not back Barack Obama,,, just like if Hilary wins the primary,,, Barack Obama followers will not back Hilary ,,,,,
Obama is definitely Muslim, but he is a closet Racist, who employed a racist,, of all Racist, ,,,,, he is done
Watch Obama weblink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prhnc2fxAzg&feature=related%20%E2%80%A6%20http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4YxPBAkfp4&feature=related


Bobbie Sue,

I'm not sure why you're "sure the pastor at the United Church of Christ in Chicago is a beloved person." His comments have been made over the years, not in a single instance in response to Ferrarro's or anyone else's comments. Below are a few of those, gleaned from a Bloomberg article on the matter, just this week:

"Sept. 11

In one sermon, shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Wright said ``America's chickens are coming home to roost,'' referring to U.S. foreign policy.

In another sermon, Wright said the government ``lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.'' He also preached the kind of racial politics that Obama has said he is working to end.

Wright lumped Obama's rival, Hillary Clinton, with what he characterized as a white ruling elite.

Obama ``ain't rich and he ain't privileged,'' Wright said. ``Hillary fits the mold.''

This doesn't sound to me like a man who is "beloved" and in a moment of heated crisis. This sounds like a man who is divisive on matter of race and class. And this man is someone Barack Obama has described as being "like an uncle" to him - a man who married Obama and his wife and baptised their two daughters.

That Barack Obama is now claiming that after 20 years of friendship, mentoring, and the fostering of an uncle/nephew relationship, that he never heard any thoughts or feelings like those listed above, uttered by pastor Wright seems to be disingenuous at best, and downright deceitful at worst.

And Obama still continues to support the church that defends Pastor Wright, his sermons, and his political, spiritual, and moral leanings (as Anti-American and racist as they can sometimes be) to this day.

This speaks to the kind of man Barack Obama is...and it speaks volumes about what are in my opinion, anyway, some of his ultimately very dangerous weaknesses, in terms of being a leader of this country.


Look at how the candidates present themselves and the issues. These are the only things that matter. You people who harp on these ridiculous issues like religion disgust me.
America's dying and we're spoiling our best hope with this idiotic bigotry. Stop being asses and grow up!


So, Will, everyone should just blindly accept whatever PR Obama, or Clinton, or McCain, or anyone else want to "present about themselves and the issues"? What about the parts they DON'T want to present or don't necessarily want the American voting public to see?

One's views towards one's country, one's views towards race (yours and others), government, and moral beliefs are very, very important to consider, when considering the next leader of our country. If the religious company one keeps provides insight into those elements of a person, then I think that applies directly to an intelligent voter attempting to decide if that person is suited to be leader of the nation.

Those who prefer to bury their heads in the sand and blindly accept only what is dished out for consumption, soaking it in like a sponge and never questioning its voracity, are in my opinion, the only "asses" in the equation.


This uncalled-for expression of hate on Obama´s person and his candidancy show how backwards most americans remain in the 21st century.

Fact remains...Barack is the only chance of racial healing in AMERICA!.


I noticed how CNN shifted into negatives and cheap racial ratings after Texas and Ohio primaries..It´s really pathetic.And I used to hold this channel in high esteem but after all this, they are off my list!.

I wonder how many of us who share or agree everything the pastor says unless one is in a cult.
When Wright said GOD DAMN AMERICA!!... then one should ask himself why is this man of God saying such a thing... People and the press picked only this phrase out...But Wright just added for KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE , WOMEN AND CHILDREN!.
Wright is the not one who authorized and is carrying out this unjust war out there that provoked his outrage. I feel is very difficlut to watch those killings and bombings on TV without having feelings to damn whosoever is reponsible for such useless war and such atrocities as a christian!!.

What I have just observed in this whole debate/postings is that no one seems to acknowledge here that Obama´s Pastor actually was referring to (as America tha´s to be damned ) those who authorized, those who supported this war and those who in carrying out their RESPONSIBILITY pushed USA into this useless war!!. That´s the people Obama´s pastor is referring to here. The media can do Whatever the like to bring Obama down,folks, this time around it´s not gonna work..!!.
We should not forget, Obama congregations is not entirely of black membership.!.


There is no such thing as "racism" against whites. Please. If you feel bad because someone from a historically oppressed group calls your culture racist, too bad. Get over it. You're the one with the free ride racially.

White man in Portland


I have one thing to say to the American Press.

SHAME ON YOU!

If Sen. Obama would've been properly reported earlier... this would not be such as issue as it is today.

Maybe it's true that the Multi-national corporations control the What, When, Where, Why and How the media operates.

If it looks like it and smells like it ... It's probably S***!


How many preachers don't shoot their mouths off? This race is over. Hillary lost. It's time to get behind Barack, and take the fight to the Republicans.


When I read snippets of things Rev. Wright had said I thought they didn't sound all that bad, I certainly have plenty of issues with things the US has done and I don't believe in blind patriotism. However, when I watched the videos it was a quite different experience. They are phenomenally hateful and racist and biased and just plain bizarre. The attacks on Hillary Clinton in sermons from January of this year were stomach turning. I think Obama, in his struggle to figure out his identity, has gone in an extreme direction of identifying with his absent black father and rejecting the white people who raised him. He needs to do some serious work on himself before he starts trying to heal the nation. Right now he strikes me as a tragic and flawed personality, woefully unprepared for the job ahead.


What "racist" comments did Rev. Wright make? He has never said anything hateful about white people. He has never said anything hateful about Jews (the Anti-Defamation League confirms this). So why do all the Obama-bashers assume that the reverend is racist? I have a challenge for all the posters who have called the Reverend Wright a racist: post a quote. With a link.


Kate - show one quote from Rev. Wright that is "racist".


Paul V - what "racist" comments did Rev. Wright make?


Sorry, but I don't think anyone should have to "get over" being treated with racism, whether that person is black, white, or any other color. Someone belonging to a racial group that historically behaved in racist ways doesn't and shouldn't open that person up to racial discrimination by any other person.

Racism is racism, no matter to whom it's directed, and it hurts just as badly to be judged for nothing other than your skin color. Being White doesn't make someone an acceptable target, any more than being Black was a morally correct reason for making someone a target during history. Thank goodness there were those who were willing to stand up and say "it's wrong to treat anyone a certain way solely based upon their skin color" - and it's still wrong now. No one gets a free ride in terms of what is right or wrong. Shame on anyone who thinks two wrongs make a right.


I believe we will all welcome criticism of any candidate if the standards were applied to all.

When a conservative radio commentator speaking on McCain Campaign meeting repeatedly pronounces Obama's middle name to denigrate him and Mccain repudiates him the issue dies right there. It does not become a defining issue for Mccain and the media does not pres on with it. Conclusion kudos to McCain and the press. But when Rod Parsley McCain spiritual advisor preaches hate speech against muslims neithe McCain nor the press treats it as a defining issue for McCain.

Again when Clincton's husband and Geraldine Feraro makes divisive statements that Obama's candidacy is only supported by blacks and would never get the white and latino vote and they apologize it is not treated as a defining issue for Hilary Clinton. Again kudos to the press for that is not the issue for voters are intelligent enough to make up the mind.

But when a former friend of Obama gets into trouble with justice and a hate mongering pastor in Obama's church and Farakhan endorses Obama we are made to believe that these issues define Obama even though he has publicly denounced them where Mccain has not denounced Rod Parsley's hate speeches.

Can the press help us keeping the campaign dignified by focusing on real issues so that McCain, Obama & Clinton are defined by what they did, what they say on issues and not on the out of place hate speech of overzealous supporters competing for campaign headlines.


Yes, please.... show us the quotes.

Don't blame them if they're too grief striken to find those quotes. I feel so bad for white people. So sensitive after so much oppression.


This is so spurious. Does anyone here wish to be judged by everyone, that they know? I wouldn't.


Close observers of yesterday's reports on the efforts of McCain and Obama to get Sen. Clinton to disclose her earmark requests going back to 2001 may have noticed a strange thing about the statement her office issued at the end of the day.

It said all manner of things about earmarks, and moratoriums, and funding, and accountability. But it never said whether she would disclose her earmark requests going back to 2001.

We spent today back-and-forthing a few more times by e-mail with her press office, and the exchanges made it pretty clear that the oversight was intentional. The plan seems to be that since the NY press has never obsessed over Hillary's earmark requests, she can safely not release them as long as she doesn't say she won't and doesn't say why she won't.

Keep reading

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Read how Clinton donors are threatening to withhold funds from the DNC

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Read how Obama has admitted more extensive ties to Tony Rezko

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Read a HuffPost blog written by Barack Obama.


Osama and his spiritual advisor should spend their time more productively trying to rein-in those little black girls with the high percentage of STD, the black boys who can't read or write or are in jail, the black "fathers" who run out on their families, the mothers who produce babies for more welfare, the crack dealers who are destroying neighborhoods, the gang members who are destroying cities, the list goes on.


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says it would be damaging to the Democratic party for its leaders to buck the will of national convention delegates picked in primaries and caucuses, a declaration that gives a boost to Sen. Barack Obama.

"If the votes of the superdelegates overturn what's happened in the elections, it would be harmful to the Democratic party," Pelosi said in an interview taped Friday for broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week."

The California Democrat did not mention either Obama or his rival, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, by name. But her remarks seemed to suggest she was prepared to cast her ballot at the convention in favor of the candidate who emerges from the primary season with the most pledged delegates.

Obama leads Clinton by 142 pledged delegates — those delegates picked in nomination contests to date, in The Associated Press' count.

Barring an unlikely string of landslide victories by the former first lady in the remaining states, he will end the primary season with a delegate lead, but short of the 2025 needed to win the nomination.

That gives the balance of power to the so-called superdelegates, prominent Democrats who are automatically entitled to attend the convention because of their status as members of Congress or other leaders. Clinton leads Obama for their support in the AP count, 249-213.

Pelosi's comments could influence other House Democrats who are neutral in the presidential race and will attend the convention as superdelegates.

In her interview, Pelosi also said that even if one candidate winds up with a larger share of the popular vote than the delegate leader, the candidate who has more delegates should prevail.

"It's a delegate race," she said. "The way the system works is that the delegates choose the nominee."
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Finally the powers that be are starting to wake up!
Good night Hillary, good night.


In fact, I'm surprised that more whites aren't just as angry about the same things that Reverend Wright seemed so angry about in those clips. Who wasn't pissed about apartheid, or US foreign policy in Central America, etc. Does anyone think the chickens aren't coming home to roost? I just don't get it.


Double standard is not the issue; the issue is the blindness of the media. Tony Rezko, Jeremiah Wright, the unrepentant ex-terrorist friends of Obama--William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, and their scummy residue on Barack Obama have been out there in the open all along, but most members of the media are afraid of being called racist by Obama camp if they were the first ones to point the dirty spots on Obama. That’s why they would have to wait till someone brings the stains up on YouTube and other Internet venues.

And their blindness still continues as the Chicago Tribune calls Mr. Obama, after having interviewed him about his relationship to Rezko, as setting a new standard of candor, the candor that made Mr. Obama look like he was born yesterday with all the innocence and ignorance of a new born baby, while fully knowing that all this is coming from a man who represented a district from the notoriously dog eat dog world of Chicago ward politics.

“I trusted him (Rezko),” so Mr. Obama says according to the Chicago Tribune interview. Well, so much for his superior judgment skill, which, beside his ability to stitch big words together, has been the only selling point of Mr. Obama’s candidacy. Apparently, in spite of his newly proven ability for poor judgment, Mr. Obama still wants people to trust him. Indeed, if Mr. Obama has his way he would have us be to him as he was to Tony Rezko; that is, naive, clueless, and blind. Needless to say, so far Obama admirers are living up to his expectation. They are well advised to stop projecting their hope and yearning on a man they hardly know, especially a man coming out of Chicago ward politics that runs on graft and kickbacks as its fuel.

Mr. Obama is a pushy, cocky, imperious character who will use these attributes to the detriment of the country (and himself in the end) if he were to become the President of the United States. Much of Mr. Obama’s vaunted legislative record (all accomplished in a single year) in the Illinois legislature came about as the result of the Democratic Illinois Senate Majority Leader Emil Jones Jr. assigning most of the high profile legislation, which other legislators had been working on, under Mr. Obama’s name. And Mr. Obama was brazen and duplicitous enough to take the full credit without sharing any of it with the originators of the legislation.

This is real Barack Obama, the harbinger of new politics and future hope of America. Democrats, nay, all Americans, should be warned that it is not Florida and Michigan voter disenfranchisement (which Mr. Obama, true to his form, is working hard to ensure behind the scene, as if he is back in his good old days in the Illinois legislature) that will be the train wreck that they fear, but the Obama presidency that will be.


Joe Hill. Are you a paid Obama supporter? Nobody could get it so wrong on their own.


Another hypocrisy on Obama's behalf, is that he chose to stay in the church even after they gave a lifetime achievement award to Louis Farrakhan? Will he plead ignorance to that as well? Because apparently he slept through 20 years of sermons too.


I see valid comparisons between Juan end Eva (Evita) Peron and the clintons. Ultra liberal, deeply engaged in class warfare, eager to destroy anyone in their way- all the while personally enriching themselves. Somehow though, I thought we were a little more developed, that we could do a little better. After all, even Argentina would not allow Eva to succeed her husband.


This election has just exposed double standards that have existed for years: one for blacks, yet another for women. Ask your typical black professional (which I am one). We are judged by a different set of bias - speaking both "white" English and "black" American is one extra expected of us. And last time I checked, there is still a glass ceiling for women. Just image the story lines if Condi, or a hispanic or asian was running. Could we not question any of their qualities? The press provides snap shots: not information; not knowledge. Learn to critically think for yourself. Bottom line -Yes there is a double standard for any minority trying to rise to the top. Racism still exists. And women are not quite on par with men. Even if the Dem's lose this election, history has been made and things will never be the same.


I grow weary of this primary. I grow weary of the fighting, the negativity. I grow afraid for the Democratic chances now that McCain has been settled on as the Republican nominee - how is ill intended cross party voting going to effect the remaining primaries?

The longer the Democratic nominee drags on undecided the more harm will be done to the eventual nominee - the nominee that probably should have been decided on already given there is a clear front runner - or at least it would be perceived there is a clear front runner if not for the fact the one that lags behind had previously been in the White House with her husband.

I've seen so many people standing up and standing together, coming together to massive events, to call for change. That brought tears to my eyes and revitalized my soul. But then I have also seen so much ugliness trying to tear that apart - that grows louder by the day and it is truly dismal. One would have thought the choice would have been clear by now, that people wouldn't work to be counter-productive to the chance of having a more positive future.

Please America, please. The world watched as Bush was re-elected - we watched in dismay - and we feel broken too. Please don't break us again.


It is good to see people like Obama running for president. Obama can relates to people from poor socio-economic conditions, who is a minority, and who has work twice as hard to get where he is today. America should be proud that he has been able to transcend race and is willing to work for the good of the whole country. I wish the people at cnn would stop address him as Barach Obama and call him Senator as they do to Senator Hilary Clinton.


It is good to see people like Obama running for president. Obama can relates to people from poor socio-economic conditions, who is a minority, and who has work twice as hard to get where he is today. America should be proud that he has been able to transcend race and is willing to work for the good of the whole country. I wish the people at cnn would stop address him as Barach Obama and call him Senator as they do to Senator Hilary Clinton.


Americans need to seriously look at the candidates. Read between the lines -BarakNEVER quit the "racist" so called church/cult in 20 years-he defends the hateful Reverend. Michelle Obama is paranoid on race (who wants a Presdient always paraniod on race issues?) -yet she makes $300K/yr, attended Princeton. More opportunity than most whites. Barack cant dance around this.


Joe Hill. Are you a paid Obama supporter? No one could get it so wrong on their own. Geez, didn't you hear him? He's a racist hate monger like many blacks who defy the system because they are failures.


Obama has attended Pastor Wright's church for almost 20 years. He was married there by Wright, his children were christened by Wright. He has called Wright the greatest influence in his life in his books and other places. The recordings of Rev. Wright's black power racist, hateful, and treasonous rantings were being sold in the lobby of his church. Yet, Obama has the gall to say that in 20 years of attendance at Wright's church and other functions he has never heard Wright's hateful racist utterings. Either Obama is a fool or a liar. I am certain that he is not the former. The black "Manchurian Candidate" almost succeeded.


This double standard has been around for a long time. Nobody wants to be labeled a bigot even if it means giving up your right to free speech.


joehill,

I'm short on time, but here's one piece from the Denver Post that adresses the allegations of racism. Although this particular article doesn't provide some of the actual quotes I have seen, it looks at the racism inherent in praising and presenting a "man of the year" award to someone who is an avowed racist: Louis Farrakhan - with Wright calling Farrakhan a man who "truly epitomizes greatness".

I wonder how Hilary Clinton would fare if she had a spiritual advisor of 20 years who she considered like "an aunt" to her, who had given an award to David Duke and called him a man who "truly epitomized greatness"?

Here's the quote from the Denver Post. After the quote, the link to the entire article is provided.

"Obama, the guiding hand to American unanimity, has for the past 20 years been a parishioner at Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ, whose leader is, by any reasonable standard, a racist.

The pastor in question is Jeremiah Wright Jr. It was his use of the term "audacity of hope" in a sermon that inspired Obama to title his best-selling book with the phrase.

Wright is a longtime supporter of Nation of Islam's Louis Farrakhan. Last year, the "Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award" was given to Farrakhan, who, it turns out, "truly epitomized greatness."

Farrakhan, in addition to making frequent distasteful comments about race, is a person who referred to Judaism as a "gutter religion" and its adherents a bunch of "bloodsuckers."

Wright even tagged along when Farrakhan visited Libya's dictator Moammar Khadafy — a terrorist financier directly linked to the murder of Americans — for a chitchat in 1980s."

http://www.denverpost.com/harsanyi/ci_8440768


Yes. There's definitely a double standard for Obama. How else can one explain the oddball views from his critics that his being black is a political advantage (Ferraro), his being black means he can't win (Rendell) and being black means he's no different from Jesse Jackson (Clinton). He can't win and he's only winning because he's black. Methinks the aged Clinton campaign generation is a little mixed up and a little obssessed about an issue that colored (sorry) their own collective experience in the millenium now past and just can't seem to get over the fact that Obama's just plain winning because he's appealing in his message and its delivery.


A NewsMax article written by Jim Davis, August 9, 2007, says Barack Obama was in attendance at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago on July 22, 2007, when Davis attended the service.

In that service, Davis says Jeremiah Wright used profanity throughout the message and referred to the "United States of White America," and "white arrongance" during his sermon - to nodding agreement by Barack Obama.

Here is Davis' account of the 8/9/08 service he attended last August. It is quite long and the FLUFF nodding statement is just past half-way down the page:
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/8/194812.shtml?s=lh



http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788&page=1http://www.foxnews.com/

As a rational person, if you are in a setting and you hear something long enough, if you dont stand up against it, you are part of it. This is particularly a problem for people in leadership position.. Hence, the 20-year long association with a radical group (such as this church) is a serious problem when he has not demonstrated any efforts to moderate their voice and unite them with mainstream.

Hear it long enough, it gets into your sub-conscious mind.. who knows, ... he probably even believes this crap.. No wonder he does not stand up against it.. And, by the way, if he did stand up against it at this stage, it would be an election sham.. After 20 years? GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION!!!



http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788&page=1http://www.foxnews.com/

As a rational person, if you are in a setting and you hear something long enough, if you dont stand up against it, you are part of it. This is particularly a problem for people in leadership position.. Hence, the 20-year long association with a radical group (such as this church) is a serious problem when he has not demonstrated any efforts to moderate their voice and unite them with mainstream.

Hear it long enough, it gets into your sub-conscious mind.. who knows, ... he probably even believes this crap.. No wonder he does not stand up against it.. And, by the way, if he did stand up against it at this stage, it would be an election sham.. After 20 years? GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION!!!

Last night, Anderson Cooper (CNN AC360)interviewed Barack [At Barack's request to debunk the stories... and there is a lot of that going on like the original article in this posting] and Barack failed the interview... It was obvious to the audience especially the bloggers that even Anderson could see through the lies. Barack showed NO CONTRITION.. NO REGRET at the mudslinging at Hillary... No regret at the damage this has caused to unity... just a political statement to denounce... and a lot of talk pushing his book... Anderson ended the interview with a question to Barack if he could clarify whether he is ok with singing the national anthem... and INSTEAD OF GIVING AN EASY DIRECT STRAIGHT ANSWER.. "yes, I have no problem with it and I do it all the time" he laughed it off with something about his poor singing voice! It was not a joke.. Anderson was giving him more a bit more time to come with rejoinder as he laughed joining Barack..and then cut him off with "I'll leave it at that."

Before I forget, AC360 also had a briefer segment on McCain's pastor whose remarks are somewhat on the extreme side.

A brief segment from Hillary's interview by Solidad on "Faith" was also broadcast.. no major new insight.. except she derives strength for doing the right things from her faith.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788&page=1http://www.foxnews.com/ [Look at also the Rezko related videos on the right hand side bottom while there]


Context. Evaluating what people say, especially when it appears to be something controversial, within a gestalt, or context, takes spiritual maturity.

I would ask those who read what follows from such a place - a place that wishes the best for all...

I am a former chaplain (Caucasian and female) who attended two seminaries and spent part of my life in "The Church."

After reading many of the posts on this latest "Wright" controversy, I decided to check out, not only the church in question, but the reverend's theological training and background. (I was assuming, based on what has been written and reported, that this was possibly some guy who had received his degree from a less-than-reputable seminary and was probably preaching his so-called "Gospel of Hate" out of his own sense of...whatever.)

Come to find out, Rev. Wright received his Master of Divinity degree from the University of Chicago Divinity School. Hmm. Not exactly "fringe" stuff. And also discovered....he received a doctorate from United Theological Seminary (Ohio)...a school that dared to graduate a woman way back in 1886! Wow. Progressive, to say the least.

Then I checked out Trinity's website. Lo and behold, I found nearly 60 specialized ministries meant to support and uplift - including a singles community ministry that even offers a group just for "same gender loving" folk!

More wow. (And where's all this hate everyone's been talking about?)

So, does this mean I agree with the way Rev. Wright expressed himself on the occasions that have generated so much controversy? No. However, knowing his impeccable theological training, and noting the extensive educational backgrounds of Trinity's staff...

...and noting as well the remarkable ministries they provide to a wide variety of people within and around their community...

...my inclination is to simply try to "walk in his shoes." And remember the era he grew up in. Remember what he probably witnessed. Or experienced directly himself. Oprah? Not even a possibility at that time.

Many are soooo quick to judge and condemn... people. So quick to crucify...people. Without attempting to understand.

Without attempting to open....the heart. And by so doing...

...choose to see only the "flaws." All the while refusing to see any of the grand and glorious.

This is a man who grew a congregation of 72 to a congregation of thousands. A man who, in his own way, attempted to preach the gospel to those who were living a radically different version of "The American Dream." Quite simply: They were his family. And they were hurting.

No, Barack did not withdraw himself from this pastor who allowed his anger to get the best of him on more than one occasion. But I admire the senator for that. Why?

Because I did the withdrawal thing from my family when it became evident our values were different. I was going to show them...that they had to agree with me or else. And it was a mistake. A huge mistake.

Three years later I returned. More mature. More able to look past our points of difference. More able to find our points of commonality. And more able to express love.

Guess what happened? I found, to my surprise, that I actually had more influence on them by sticking around and being myself...modeling those values so dear to me...than I did when I left them, rejected them.

Thank you, Barack, for "getting it." You had to know the political risks of sticking with "your crazy uncle." Yet you chose to anyway. Until the climate got so bad...

I'm sorry things are such that you feel you can no longer even talk with the man without getting condemned, ripped to shreds. Just know, I see the good in him. I didn't take offense. Rather...I tried to understand. And hope I succeeded.

P.S. Thanks, too, for allowing Geraldine the same kind of error by giving context to her remarks as well. Patently absurd comments? Yes. Just like the ones that came from Rev. Wright. But racist? You said no. And I agree. The era they lived through...no doubt played a role here. You recognized such.

Spiritual maturity at its best.


STOP Talkint about B.S.
America is sinking internally and international. America needs Obama to rise again. While Americans are talking about race, the world is advancing, China is talking over. Stop and think. America is part of the world and they need a person like Obama, who is black, white, Christian, Mulsim. He is everything that America needs. Wakeup, and join the civilized world.


STOP Talkint about B.S.
America is sinking internally and international. America needs Obama to rise again. While Americans are talking about race, the world is advancing, China is taking over. Stop and think. America is part of the world and they need a person like Obama, who is black, white, Christian, Mulsim. He is everything that America needs. Wakeup, and join the civilized world, Obama is the hope that America needs. Join the world again.


As a White woman who for a very short time considered voting for Obama i have to say that the Black racists he in the company of has completely changed my mind and of my many White friends. Honestly, how could any White American voter after all that had come out in the last few weeks even think of voting for this fraud and liar!!! Shame on you Obama, if you didn't know what was being preached at your church of 20 yrs. then how could any American trust your knowing what goes on in the WHITE HOUSE!!! Racists always stick together..is that why you stayed in that church for 20 years???


Come on! All these pro-Obama comments in the face of the recent crooked financial supporter and hate America spiritual advisor stories must be plants. Nobody is that stupid or media brainwashed, are they?


Obama is the hope for himself, Rezko, Farrakhan, Wright, Auchi, Ayers, Michelle, some filthy rich hospitals.

There is NOTHING genuine about this guy.

DONT GET HOODWINKED!!


By the way, there is absolutely nothing civil about sitting thru sermons of an extreme preacher for 20 years and then claiming to be uniter! What nonsense! Civilized???!!! Extreme. Divisie.

He uses words like hoodwink, bamboozle to rake over old wounds of "brothers" and bring them to over to his side.. and his mannerisms hoodwink the whites.. that's what he is doing. ENOUGH ALREADY! ENOUGH!! WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH!


If this was Hillary who had turned out to be attending a church run by the a klan member for 20 years, the media would be screaming bloody murder. Wright is no better than a klan member. Letting Obama get away with this will be the biggest joke ever.


I called my sorority sister over to read Nadia's comments. She said, "Looks like my vote will be negated by the likes of her I'm going to cry." Shouldn't there be a minimum standard for voters?


Once Hussein Obama is President, be prepared for a multi-billion dollar reparations bill to be passed. It's already in the works, Rep. Conyers of MI has it written and waiting to go. The taxpayers are going to get gouged to pay for something that happened 150 years ago. If he wins I'm moving to Canada.


ACH YOU FOOLS. DON'T ANY OF YOU REALIZE THAT HILLARY, OBAMA, AND McCAIN ARE ALL SPOUTING ESSENTIALLY THE SAME MESSAGE? THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS IN HOW MUCH THEY INTEND TO RAISE OUR TAXES TO PAY FOR THINGS WE DON'T WANT AND DON'T WANT DONE. #AND IF YOUR VOTE ACTUALLY MEANT ANYTHING, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY SUCH THINGS AS CAUCUSES. PRIMARIES, AND THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. SHEEP TO THE SLAUGHTER! AND YOU'LL GO THERE TRUSTING WHOMEVER YOU VOTED FOR.


If Democrats and the media select Obama as the candidate, he will
fail, and rightly so. Obama is AntiAmerican, AntiPatriotic, he won't
wear the US flag on his body, he won't put his hand on his heart for
the national anthem. If people choose Obama, they will experience the
Apocalypse.

This video shows just one example of what the republicans are going to
do to Obama if he's selected as the primary Democratic candidate:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-714997129077869382&q=Rev+Wright+%22God+Damn%22&total=21&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

Here's another example:
"Todd Harris, a veteran GOP political strategist, tells us, "There are
hundreds of churches in Chicago to choose from but Obama picked the
one with a racist preacher who is anti-American and anti-Israel. This
guy makes Louis Farrakhan look like Hello Kitty and we're going to
have a field day with this.""
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/03/obama_reacts_to_controversial.html


Of course there is a double standard. If Hillary Clinton had a "mentor and spiritual adviser" who made the same racist and anti-American statements made by Rev. Wright, she could not be elected dog catcher. Obama, on the other hand, is already attempting to rehabilitate his image with the help of much of the media. DOUBLE STANDARD, duh!


This is all a bunch of .......... Even with this small baggage, Obama will win not from double standards, but because over half of this nation cannot stand Hillary Clinton no matter what she does. Obama is new and different from the recycled candidates we have had.

Republicans are pulling out all stops to get Hillary as the Dem candidate, because they know her negatives are so high that she will be a disaster.

Hand it to the Clintons; nice smear job.


Has everyone FORGOTTEN that Obama's mother was WHITE. He would be the last individual on earth to create division among races. Also please don't forget his speech of Unity among races at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. LETS DON'T GET AMNESIA PEOPLE. LETS GET OUR FACTS STRAIGHT.


Obama's pastor disses Natalee Holloway: "White girl goes off and gives it up' in Aruba"

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59887

Wright on day 1??!!
Where's Obama's judgment on this?


Obama- "HOPE" for himself, Rezko, Farrakhan, Wright, Auchi, Ayers, Michelle, some filthy rich hospitals.
There is NOTHING genuine about this guy.
DONT GET HOODWINKED!!
He does not even share the American history (and admits it when it is convenient) but uses BAMBOOZLE to bamboozle the BROTHERS!
See history of the word Bamboozle: http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/filmnotes/bamboozled.html
NOT A UNITER.. WORST POLITICIAN WHO NEGATIVES GENERATIONS OF WORK TO BRING COMMUNITIES TOGEHTER.

He is evil. He has managed to convince so many people.. HE DROVE A WEDGE Where he saw the crack!

Dont make us loose America. LET'S FIGHT TO SAVE AMERICA AND FOR ANY CHANCE OF LASTING UNITY!


Robert, He gives speeches! That's what he is. THERE IS NO REAL WORK FOR UNITY!!

Anderson Cooper interviewed Barack yesterday and Barack didnt do well AT ALL! You may be able to find the video on CNN.. I found the blog which has viewers' live reaction to the interview: http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/14/live-blog-from-the-anchor-desk-31408/


Robert: As Farrakhan has reminded his flock, Malcolm X's mother was white also, and that didn't stop him from hating white people (at least until he converted from the Black Muslims just before he was murdered by them).


Barack Obama has the audacity to hope that we are all stupid.


Have any of you wingnut politicos noticed that we have 4$ gas in Hawaii and California, close to 12M illegals in this country, 45 million people without healthcare and an outmoded tax code that no one can understand? Forget the race issues, the whacko black pastor, the gender thing and rescue us from these things that will ultimately threaten the average American more than any other. I would vote for Donald Duck, even though he is a duck, if he could fix these things that need fixing.


Stop talking for one second.
Close your eyes.
Imagine Obama is white?
Imagine HClinton is a black?
Who would you vote for?
Please be honest?


Is there a double standard for Obama? Yes - it is obvious to everyone.

This is perhaps the least qualified individual to ever run for the highest office in the land. His resume, though impressive for a man his age, is none the less thin on accomplishments, and any time you point that out and wonder aloud how he got to the position he is in, the attraction of a certain segment of the US population to his bi-racial background is considered off limits.

Ferraro acknowledged that had she been a man, she would never have wound up on the 84 ticket. Senator Clinton likewise enjoys support because of her gender. To state that race, and the complicated history this nation has had with race relations, is off-limits to have a candid discussion is not transcending the issue, it is denying it. To hide behind your race as a tool to shield you from legitimate criticism is even worse.

Obama should not be elected because he is unqualified - he lacks the experience and the judgments (his recent Rezko revelations, his association with his afro-centric church, his missing crucial votes, his failure to conduct oversight hearings, his inability to deliver much needed change in Chicago and IL) and it has nothing to do with the color of his skin.


I do not think Senator Obama is responsible for everything his pastor says. I do not believe Senator Obama is responsible for everything done by Tony Rezko. Moreover, are the Obama haters certain that a jury will convict Rezko of any wrongdoing? Or, does that matter?


Rev Wright comments have been racist for the last 20 years that Obama has been going to his church.
His anti-American stand is shameful.
Obama has connections that all AMERICANS SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT.
Rezko, Mahdi Auchi, AlSamarrai, Wm
Ayers, Rev Wright, Farakhan, Raila Odinga,
Kahaila ...


It's absolutely nuts to say that you can't criticize Obama without being called a racist. Hillary Clinton has been doing it relentlessly and often underhandedly for weeks. When she called Obama naive, or said he hadn't crossed her imaginary Commander-in-Chief threshold, no one said she was being racist.

But if you criticize Obama by making racist statements, well, yeah, folks are going to call you "racist."


Where did all of the supposedly non-racist Ron Paul supporters go? My money says they're now posting comments for the great John McCain. It's funny how when Ron Paul said that the terrorists attacked on 9/11 because an oppressive US foreign policy it is Paul "speaking truth to power." Yet when Wright says it and he is "un-American" and a race panderer...and therefor so is Obama. Ridiculous. You people would wrap dog shit in an American flag and swear it doesn't stink.


It's funny to see the Barack Obama apologists scramble on l'affaire Jeremaih Wright.

Even the Air America lefties were almost tongue-tied.

The tape of his speech on You Tube is devastating.

It is not going to go away or be explained away. Jeremaih Wright will make Willy Horton look like a Boy Scout and will dwarf the Swift Boat revelations in electoral damage.

Barack Obama is electoral toast.


Actually, Obama did play the race card on several occasions. For example, when Hillary discussed the cooperation between Martin Luther King, Jr. and President Johnson in passing the 1964 Civil Rights Act; and when Bill Clinton was trying to correct the record about Obama's stance on the Iraq war. You may remember that he got busted for doing this by Tim Russert during one of the debates.


obama is a racist he is 50% white but he hates white folk. he is going down before the convention and wont be a factor.


Obama has surrounded himself with people like his Afrocentric wife and pastor, with Farrakhan and with Retzko. One can reasonably assume they had/have some influence in his thinking and judgment.

His pastor's words actually sounds a lot like Farrakhan's.

Scary to think if Obama becomes president, he will be surrounded by these people, in addition to Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and other supporters who will expect favors in return.


YES there is a double standard. If McCain belonged to a church who's 12 point credo includes the "White work ethic" etc, and it's so called pastor spewed white supremist hate speech, he would not be in this race. Nor should he be.
Obama does attend a Racist church
who's pastor spews Black supremist, anti-American filth, and the liberally insane try to justify it?
Obama is FINITO.


There is such a thing as ‘too much information’. The media’s agenda is what the general public wants to know, and that’s what sells. Like it or not, there’s always bias. Facts don’t sell, controversies does. And that’s exactly why we have to look at things/people objectively. Knowledge is power.

I think everyone could take a few minutes out of their busy schedules and do some homework before making a decision.

Listen to their ideas/plans they have, cross-examine it, look into their records and merits, then weigh who can get the most out of it. Because whatever ideas/plans they got, it’s bound to get watered down in Congress. If you feel there are no apparent differences between them, then vote for who you feel comfortable with.

I don’t have a problem with hiring a manager I don’t like, as long as he/she gets the job done. In a sense, a President is like a super CEO. Instead of selling us products, they sell us plans and ideas. But some plans/ideas are better than others. It’s up to us to decide which is best and right for us. Some CEOs are honest while most others are crooks.

Words do matter, but actions’ speak volumes. Right now I can’t get pass Obama, with his wife and kids, listening for over 20 years to the stuff that Wright preaches. Obama says he don’t agree with some of the things Wright says. I’m trying to understand if Obama has a severe judgment problem or hearing problem. Cause whatever he’s listening in that church, it’s music to his ears. I’m sure there’s more than one church in Chicago.

I don’t know who I’m going to vote, if I vote. But I do know I can’t vote Obama and I have a hard time voting for Hillary. It’s a democracy and it ain’t perfect. Love it, hate it, make the best of it.

Good night and good luck people.


Obama has proven that race is not an issue by getting more voters behind him. If race is not an issue to getting a majority of voters behind him, it is not an issue.

Clinton has proven that she is willing to resort to this racest / sexist BS.


Regarding racist remarks, let's go all the way back to the beginning, the days of "Is Obama black enough" remarks.

Or, like so many other " - words," is that different because they were uttered by so-called "people of color?"


DIFFERENT EARS - A 2008 STORY

I talk to friends about two sets of ears - White ears and Black ears - and how we hear things differently.

I hear about how it took a dreamer, a leader, a visionary and an old tough battle tested President to win civil rights legislation. Black people hear it took a white to finish a black man's work.

I hear an ex president talk of a BO anti war speech - followed by its delisting from his website - followed by his saying honestly he did not know how he would have voted on THE resolution - followed by identical votes all as a tail of a person who can not claim to be a consistent strident loud anti war critic. I then hear phrases such as -- give me a break - it is a myth -- as references to that claim by BO that he has been consistently loudly opposing the war. Black people hear it is a white ex president saying its a myth that a Black man in 2008 can become President

I believe the difference in hearing is flamed by BO surrogates playing the race card in reverse. I belive it is done with hypocrisy - when convenient - in plain talk and in code.

I am now very upset by the J Wright issue and how BO leaves him behind on the day of his announcement that he is running for president IMO precisely because he knows of the pastor's past ugly fiery words. Read here or say at NYT how Wright was disinvited just 12 hours in advance

So maybe? when BO needs to look white for Iowa and NH the tone of the news then accurately reflected how BO was campaigning and we saw story after story with headlines like "Is he Black enough" - reflecting how BO was campaigning.

But now we hear the church speeches WITH OUR OWN EARS and BO claims to not have known about them - to not have been there at the time. And posters here and every where hear the speech and the apology with different ears and yes with different levels of belief or rejection.

I think I might, in part, understand the tone and rationale for such words in the 70s and 80s. But their time has passed long ago even for us liberals.

BO stood by and did nothing - not even leave the Church - despite IMO knowing directly or indirectly of many if not all the racial and fiery words of his mentor. This shows a clear lack of courage - a real politician - and poor judgement -- IMO.

The BO camp knew they could use the race card (or reverse race card) at any time and bring the Black vote to them - and they did. And they were very successful.

And now BO says "I was not there" and expects everyone to again be quiet or be called racist.

Bo dennouces guilt by association. Of course he does - as he visits the Trib and SunTimes re REZKO.

But I recall an old standard wisdom like saying - you know the one -- "You can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep" -- Has it no merit?

Sure no guilt by association. That would be ugly and wrong. But one also can not use that concept or pharase as a shield one day and a sword another. That is wrong and hypocritical.

Again - we hear with different ears

Maybe next decade


John F. Kennedy had no experience when he ran for office. Many of the same things were said of him. He was also a Catholic. Another problem. He was young. Another problem. At what point do you stop your labeling, and look for leadership skills. Hillary is a woman, Obama is a man. If color were not an issue, should gender be the issue? What happened to looking at the skills that the nominee offers. I am a WHITE REPUBLICAN MALE. I would gladly vote in a WHITE FEMALE if that were my choice. However, as I am looking at the leadership skills that the nominees are offering. I see someone that can bring us together and I see someone that seems manipulative in their actions. It may be true that McCain feels he has it wrapped up, but from my standpoint based on my observations, I would like to see Obama elected as President. Perhaps his election would help turn the page in American History. Maybe you agree, maybe you don't. But for goodness sakes, lose your focus on RACE, RELIGION, AND SEX. Focus on leadership. Good Luck with the candidate of your choice.


OBAMA: 20 YEARS AND HE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING?

Is he kidding? What an insult. That's 1040 sermons. He said on the "Hannity & Colmes" show that he didn't have "perfect attendance", but "attended regularly". So, conservatively, what is "regularly"--70% of the time? That's 728 sermons. He never heard this in 728 sermons?!?! Please, humor me.

He didn't know the man's views? Pastor Wright married the Obamas. He baptized their kids. He blessed their new home. Obama's book "Audacity of Hope" was named after a sermon of Pastor Wright.

This is just another example of a Hustler/Con Man politician, no different than Governor Spitzer. He fooled quite a few more people, however.

This is disgusting. Geraldine Ferraro was right. If Obama was a white man, and Pastor Wright was white making anti-black statements, Obama wouldn't still be campaigning. Instead, he'd be home planning what he was going to do now that his political career was over.


Obama's surge is the fact that the press shows complete favoritism and is sickening. No voter wants a candidate shoved down their throat! Cable news pundits are irresponsible predicting Obamas win and MUST stop trying to control what our society thinks and how we vote and stick to reporting facts. It's sickening to hear all the endless chatter about speeches, momentum or charisma. WE NEED FACTS, SOLUTIONS AND ANSWERES all there geniuses in mainstream media, cable news, need to summon the courage to tell their audiences about important issues and facts before permitting a public coronation of Obama based on RACE, speeches, momentum or charisma, we need solutions, which seem to be absent from obama. God save us all, our great but troubled United States needs strong, experienced and principled leadership to restore faith in our government and repair its credibility at home and abroad, and to end the destructive policies that have eroded rights for all Americans, women's rights, minorities and civil liberties and increased injustice and inequality in our society. Clinton is just such a leader. She has a long history of support for women's empowerment, and her outstanding long public service record is a testimony to her leadership on issues important to women Afro-Americans, minorities and children around the globe. She has eloquently articulated the need for full economic, political and social equality for everyone in every institution of society, taking action throughout her career - as a lawyer, community leader, 2-term First Lady, Senator and candidate for the presidency - to advance the civil and human rights. HELP Hillary Clinton Make History


Pastor Wright is not a racist. He is a passionate black man who knows that you have to use strong words to get people's attention. He made it a point to remind African Americans not to get so caught up in the world that they would forget what their true purpose is - community! Pastor Wright didn't want those in his congregation who felt they had 'made it' to forget their roots, their community, or the people who still needed their help to move forward.

African Americans and people of color live in two worlds/cultures. Many people deny that we have two worlds in the U.S. but we do. If you are a person of color you understand this fully and cannot turn a blind eye to it. If you not a person of color you have the option to ignore the facts. But this doesn't make our world better.

Race, gender, sex, ethnicity, religion, they all matter every single day. It's time to realize this and embrace our similiarities and accept our differences and move on.

Speaking about our differences to enlighten is not racist. Wanting your people - whomever they are - to do better, be better - is not racist.

I don't agree with everything that Pastor Wright has said, however I understand what he was attempting to do. The motivation was right, the words were wrong.

Give the man a break. This is not Obama's issue. Move on!


How much experience did Ronald Reagan have? Oh wait, he was a seasoned veteran. OF ACTING!!!!!!

Some people really slay me. The media can hoodwink (yes I said it) hoodwink people into believing anything. I have a son that will seek financial support Fall 2009; everytime I buy milk, and eggs and gas I feel how these last 8 years have effected me.

The media and their rich owners choose whats covered and giving up those tax cuts is the last thing on their minds so they toss out footage thats been around some for over 5 years, dust it off and spin, spin, spin, keeping in mind their ulteria motive not to relinquish those tax cuts.


I am a proud American who happens to be white working in a field that employs many blacks making well above average salaries. The majority of them, yes I've done the math, cheat on thier wives, hold back thier paychecks and have the attitude that the "white man" have held them back! Held them back from what? They all make good wages and have had every opportunity to suceed that I have.
When are the Obamas, Jacksons, Sharptons and the like going to start denouncing this kind of behavior and thought process. They're all afraid that if they speak out like Bill Cosby they'll be called an Uncle Tom, but please America, wake up!. You want to see double standard? Why would a white Govenor have to step down for hiring a hooker when a black preacher and self proclaimed leader of blacks get to go his merry way for fathering a child while married to another woman. If you ask me I'd rather he hired a hooker and used protection.


Do you remember that Ronald Regan built a new house and inserted a covenant that no black person could ever own it? Do you remember that George Wallace as racist as he was was forgiven by blacks who are the only people who took care of him in his old age? Do you remember that Strom Thurmond was a segregationist to his death. do you remember that Barry Goldwater was a strong segregationist and that Hillary Clinton was a Goldwater girl? Do you remember the MLK was pilloried for being against the VietNam war? As was Mohammed Ali?

Now, please let's get past it. Older people have are the product of their times and experiences and younger people are trying new techniques to get past it and to deal with it. Respect the older people for what they went through and even for their bitterness. You didn't live what they lived. But give the young people a change. This is a new generation. Obama is of the new generation of leaders.

Give yourselves a chance


Senator Obama is not ready to be President.

He hit the wall built between his property deal with Rezko and the cement-headed rhetoric of an angry and bitter pastor.

The meteoric rise of Barack Obama recalls the words of the 18th Century poem 'The Folly of Human Wishes' Barack's ambitions 'mount, they shine evaporate and fall.'

While Obama and Clinton put out the fires to their campaigns that they themselves set, McCain is in Iraq.

http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2008/03/john-mccain-palm-sunday-in-iraq-service.html


"Obama is the only candidate that can unite the country"????? This country will never have been more divided if an out right racist, anit-American, Black Separatist gets elected. Yes, Obama is all of those things, If his pastor is, and his wife is, so is he. Anybody who votes for Obama would have to be clinically Insane.
"Liberalism IS a mental dissorder" Just read some of these posts and it is quite clear.


There is no double standard for Barack - the double standard is against Hillary. I support Barack, and do not agree with Hillary's tactics. That said, the nation press is so anti-Hillary the dead in the graveyard can see it. Personally, I think it has its roots in the Press Office scandal from 1993. Billy Dale broke the law and used government money for personal uses. But since he catered to the White House Press Corps, they lied and covered up for him, and blamed Hillary for ending their "sweet deal" (Dale would arrange for the press to illegally bring items back from overseas, using his position to sidestep customs).


Wright calls America - "United States Of White America" and Obama who was in attendance nods in agreement !!!

Do we really want a politician who agrees with him for 20 years and now that he is running for President, think he is out of line?


john K- 10:42 post-
john, john, john, when you cite historical events, you ought to make a minimal effort to get the facts right. Here's what I think I heard about it-
Travelgate-5/93
• Seven longtime employees of the White House Travel Office were fired.
• Clintons and friends tried to take over the White House travel business.
• Heavy media attention forced the White House to reinstate the employees and remove the Clinton associates from the travel role.
• Investigations by the FBI and the Justice Department, the White House itself, the General Accounting Office, the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, and the Whitewater Independent Counsel all took place over the subsequent years.
• Travel Office Director Billy Dale was found not guilty of embezzlement in 1995.
• First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton gradually came under scrutiny for allegedly having played a central role in the firings and making false statements about her role in it.
• In 2000 Independent Counsel Robert Ray issued his final report on Travelgate, stating that Hillary Clinton had made factually false statements.


How many fools are there?I stopped counting .McCain Clinton and Obama are all members of the CFR.Do you clowns know what that means?They all work for the same team.Its a friggin show sheople.All the trashing you hear on all of them is true.But then you know it deep down, don't you?You say the media is manipulating us but at the same time you deny you can be manipulated.There will be no health care no change and no unity.The wars will continue by everyone of their admissions and actions(their records).Wake up stupid people and smell the bull,its not roses you are smelling!


Americans the dumbest beasts of burden on the planet.
you all go weewee for obama nad clinton who accomplished zero in their terms in office.Who stand for 2 faced ideals spouting out something for one group and the opposite for another group.
Mccain another idiot of no acclaim
routed his opponents easily
Americans the dumbed down masses huddled in their derivative riddled houses follow the sweet talkers .they will never ever face the music and elect a reposible politician.
As such America is doomed for third world status you neither merit your freedom or your rights.So both will be taken from you,as the North American Union is brought down upon you . will you relish in the loss of your bill of rights and constitution,will it confort you to know that Canadian laws will replace them,so as to harmonize the Union.
wear your silly grins ,wave your flags and bend over to take it like a grown up. Your remaining days under the constitution grows short.
you have side lioned the only people left that would fight for you.
Gravel
kucinich
paul
you are left with the sweet talkers that have done nothing but bring you all down to hell
Good luck with that.Your going to need it .


What a choice!

Rezko [YouTube - Brian Ross on Obama and Tony Rezko]:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4SrtyFY6qTA

Background on the word Bamboozle: http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/filmnotes/bamboozled.html

Bamboozled
A decent youtube video showing how Obama's speeches are actually sppeches from others, including movies. [YouTube - Barack Obama: There Will Be Bamboozling]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuB_W8o_UsU

The Audacity of Barack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwjnT4eJJvs

Unholy circle of friends (YouTube - Obama Files featuring Pastor Jeremiah Wright)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6191C4oK6s0&feature=related
What?!!! "boneheaded mistake?" Cant recall.. After more than 100 stories in the Illinois newspapers! What a con man! WORST JUDGMENT EVER! He is SUPPOSED TO BE FOR CLEAN POLITICS, REMEMBER???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UGWdVOJcBI

Obama is all "HOPE" for himself, Rezko, Farrakhan, Wright, Auchi, Ayers, Michelle, filthy rich hospitals. NOTHING genuine about this guy.
DONT GET HOODWINKED!


HILLARY HAS PROVEN RECORD:
Nobel Peace Price winner, Gandhi Award, MLK Award
YouTube - Jamie Rubin on Hillary and Northern Ireland Peace Process
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCjgBAjZBaQ&feature=related

Are you THINKING???
The choice is clear. What do you THINK?
More than 40 people have actually expressed their references for her in www.thehillaryiknow.com based on their ACTUAL interaction with her as she WORKED!!!
Her SOLUTIONS FOR AMERICA are SOLID, COMPREHENSIVE, COHESIVE, BRILLIANT.. and they are based on listening to the ordinary people of America like you and me.

I know I can TRUST HILLARY.
GIVE THIS GUY A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT ONLY WORDS BACKED BY HISTORY OF ACTIONS IS WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE. THEY MUST GIVE AND SHOW REFERENCES.. ACTUAL WORK, ACTUAL PEOPLE.. BARACK HAS 0 CREDIBILITY!!

ELECT HILLARY!!!

Hillary: Simply the Best
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cCG5Tp4ZwZI


Perhaps the contemptuous Liz Jamieson could name for us all the people of color who have been elected to, or even considered for, high office on the European continent and, in particular, Great Britain (should take her only a couple of seconds). If ever there was a pot calling out the kettle, it's the Euros chastising America on the issue of race. Best tend to your own dysfunctional garden, Ms. Jamieson; plenty to do there, so, with all due respect, bugger off. (And probably what angers you most is so many of us don't care if we're the "laughing stock" of Europe--in fact, there are more than a few who would wear it as a badge of honor and many more than they who don't even give it a thought.)

As for the Obarama, it's way too late for the Senator to disavow and run away from the Reverend. 20 years of spiritual counseling, political consultation, mentoring and inflammatory rhetoric from the man are bound to have taken their toll (and now we see from where some, at least, of Michelle's self-righteous anger comes). As the good Rev said, there are chickens coming home to roost.

Personally, I don't support Barack Obama because he's a liberal and a flim-flam man. Race didn't enter into the equation, but it's getting harder to ignore every day. Congratulations, Democrats. Well done.


In all the hysteria over Wright I have yet to see a blow by blow rebuttal of his comments - why because there is truth in what he speaks. to quote tracy morgan "we are a racist country" and if u had been on the receiving end of that racism all your life wouldn't u be angry ?


Barack is TOAST after the scandals that have come out.. He knows it.. He has so many strikes against him.

Disloyal to supporters (Alice Parker, Hillary Clinton), Shady deals (Rezko), Poor circle of friends (Ayers, Wright), continued endorsement of extremism and anti-American talk (Wright), his own anti-American talk (wont ever wear lapel pin), difficulty to say simple yes to American song (CNN-AC360 interview), integrity issues and conflict of interest in healthcare (Michelle’s part-time job with big pay doing the work of channeling uninsured away from a good hospital).. the money trails, the winking on NAFTA to Canada (and taking 5 tries to come clean), the “forgetfulness” on money dealings with Rezko (and later now, just beginning to come out with it), the unravelling of Rezko (and it is still in the beginning of the story), difficulty explaining his platform (beyond slogans and catchy phrases), lack of clear and cohesive plans to support plan (and lack of fluency and consistency around own platform), indiscreminately co-sponsoring 400+ bills in the year he is running for office to be able to say “look what I am doing” (has he even read them?) and being one of the top people not at the voting station.. (his voting record is awful — next only to McCain’s and the other Republican guy with amnesia/health problem), voting “present” too many times, and to top it all off, taking up the committee chair role on Afghanistan and not holding a single substantial hearing for 15+ months… [and saying they are important!.. oh really!!]

Any person without significant accomplishmnets cannot aspire to leadership. There are three prior stages before leadership: Learning, Proving expertise and garnering credibility, Becoming a coach and multiplying one’s impact. These are stages that he has not completed.

Instead, he tried to get on the coat-tails of other leaders with their words. It was impactful… because of all the historic implications..

If he got there it would have been incredibly difficult because he has no support system developed from the earlier stages.

Instead now he has to figure out how to use words to keep the momentum when his shady/unholy/unpatriotic support system has been both questioned and can no longer openly support him.

Barack may not recognize what is the honorable thing to do.. His party leadership is going to have to help him get there.

There is no need for him to continue his quest anymore. He is DONE! ENOUGH!!

DNC Leaders, take note.. You can no longer put forth Barack Obama regardless of his middlename! He cannot recover from this utter failure to demonstrate a principals and core.. America can see thru this one!

AMERICA WILL NOT BE HOODWINKED!!


The double standard is obvious to everyone.

The media hasn't vetted Obama becuase of his backgorund which has been a disservice to the voters.
Rezko corruption connections and the lack of improvement in slum housing would have been covered long ago.

Until it is a color blind nation and media there will be problems.


Barack may not recognize what is the honorable thing to do.. His party leadership is going to have to help him get there.

There is no need for him to continue his quest anymore. He is DONE! ENOUGH!!

DNC Leaders, take note.. You can no longer put forth Barack Obama regardless of his middlename! He cannot recover from this utter failure to demonstrate a principals and core.. America can see thru this one!

AMERICA WILL NOT BE HOODWINKED!!


If Hillary Clinton had been attending KKK meetings religiously for the past 20 years, including building a CLOSE personal relationship with the grand poobah (or whatever they're called), relying on him as an "uncle" and a spiritual adviser, you'd better BELIEVE that the masses would be calling for her head right now. Why is there a double standard when a black man attends a racist church? Is racism okay as long as it's coming FROM blacks AGAINST whites? Would anyone believe Hillary if, in the hypothetical scenario I mentioned above, she now claimed to be unaware of the hatred her "uncle" had been preaching for 20 years? Would the public let that get swept under the rug? I DON'T THINK SO! Obama needs to drop out of the race now; only then can we HOPE that this sad part of American history will fade into the shadows along with the unqualified man who was given hero worship he didn't deserve. Obama can go off with his pals Louis Farrakhan--the Jew hater, Tony Rezko--the crook, Al Sharpton--the divisive "reverend," Jeremiah Wright--the racist, white-hating, America-hating, gay-hating, woman-hating "uncle," and any other lowlifes he calls friends/advisers.

With any luck, we'll never have to hear about Obama again. That's what I call REAL change.

DNC - PLEASE DEMAND THAT HE STOP HIS PURSUIT AND DONT FURTHER MARGINALIZE DEMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY!!!


Ok, THIS ELECTION WILL EXPOSE HOW FAR AMERICA HAS COME (OR NOT COME).

ITS UNBELIEVABLE HOW MANY EMOTIONS THE THOUGHT OF A BLACK MAN AS PRESIDENT EVOKES--ALBEIT A HARVARD EDUCATED INCLUSIONIST LIKE OBAMA-THIS NATIONAL DEBATE IS SLOWLY EXPOSING THE TERRIBLE FACT ABOUT THIS COUNTRY THAT IN SPITE OF THE HYPOCRICAL, BENEVOLENT, PROGRESSIVE POSTURING OF WHITE AMERICA, THE SAD FACT OF THE MATTER IS THEY ARE NOT READY FOR A BLACK PRESIDENT, EVEN IF HE WAS JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF, BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO FRIGHTENED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A BLACK PRESIDENT BRINGING TO THE FORE THE ATROCITIES THEIR RACE HAS VISITED ON BLACK PEOPLE. UNTIL THIS NATION IS WILLING TO FACE THE UNRESOLVED ISSUE OF RACISM, AS SENATOR OBAMA IS PROMISING TO DO, THIS NATION WILL NEVER BE FREE OF ITS PAST. THIS NATION WILL NEVER SECURE THE INTERNAL HARMONY IT NEEDS TO BE TRULY GREAT. WAKE UP AMERICA, THIS OPPORTUNITY SENATOR OBAMA PRESENTS US ALL-BLACK, WHITE, BROWN, YELLOW, MAY NEVER COME AGAIN!


READ ALL OF THESE COMMENTS POSTED BY VARIOUS PEOPLE. THEN GIVE A THOUGHT TO THE QUESTION I ASKED ON MARCH 15TH: *JUST WHAT DIFFERENCE IS THERE BETWEEN THE THREE MAIN CANDIDATES? THERE IS NOTHING TO CHOOSE FROM BUT THE FACE YOU WANT TO SEE AS YOU'RE BEING BETRAYED ONCE AGAIN. WHO'S THE BEST ONE FOR THE JOB? NO ONE. ONE CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THEY ALL LOSE BEFORE THE NATION DOES. WE CAN'T AFFORD ANY OF THEM. HILLARY ONCE USED AN OBSCENITY WHEN ARGUING WITH A JEWISH MAN. OBAMA HAS BEEN QUOTED AS USING OBSCENITIES WHEN REFERRING TO WHITES. JOHN McCAIN PLAYS A GOOD NON-RACIAL GAME, BUT IS HE REALLY FOR OR AGAINST ANYONE OR ANY THING? THE SHIP OF STATE IS SINKING, AND THREE CANDIDATES SPOUTING THE SAME BASIC MESSAGE ARE FIGHTING TO BE AT THE HELM WHEN IT GOES DOWN. WELCOME TO THE TITANIC!


Obama has gotten away with ten times more than a white candidate could ever get away with and still keep their career. The media has not done their job in calling out these hypocrisies and doing something about it. Obama should have to step out of this race because he is so divisive now. He may say he isn't but the truth is his race speech and his ties to Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, and Meeks do not show anything that is uniting. Whites do not trust a man who sympathizes with people like this just like blacks wouldn't sympathize with a man who associated with David Duke or Strum Thurman. Look what happened to Trent Lott just for telling Thurman that he would have made a good president at the mans 90 something birthday party. Guilt by association ruined his time in the Senate. Why should Obama be any better?


We need to focus on how many Americans died in this war today?. I can't understand what to say on this topic. I think the discussion is long enough to understand whole scenario.


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