McCain camp: Obama flunks 'Security 101': The Swamp
 
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Posted March 19, 2008 2:28 PM
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Sen. John McCain, right, got a little help from Sen. Joe Lieberman on their tour of the Middle East. When McCain said al Qaeda had been moving between Iran and Iraq with help from the Iranians, Lieberman pulled McCain aside, whispered in his ear, and McCain corrected himself: It's "extremists'' moving between the two lands. Photo of McCain and Lieberman in Israel today by David Buimovitch / AFP


by Jill Zuckman

In vivid rough and tumble detail, today’s back and forth between Senators Barack Obama and John McCain demonstrated what a general election campaign between the two might look like.

Obama took after McCain in his speech on Iraq, using mocking tones to suggest that the Arizona senator, who is the ranking member of the Armed Services Committee, doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

“Just yesterday, we heard Sen. McCain confuse Sunni and Shia, Iran and al Qaeda,” Obama said. “Maybe that is why he voted to go to war with a country that had no al Qaeda ties. Maybe that is why he completely fails to understand that the war in Iraq has done more to embolden America’s enemies than any strategic choice that we have made in decades.”

Mark Salter, the senior adviser to McCain, delivered a scorching response, questioning Obama’s knowledge of the situation.

“Senator Obama says that ending the war will not be easy, that 'there will be dangers involved.' Yet, in that patented way of his, he declines to name those dangers,” Salter said, echoing a criticism of the Clinton campaign that Obama is all gloss and no substance.

“Let me enumerate a few: al Qaeda, which is now on the run, will survive, claim victory and continue to provoke sectarian tensions that, while they have been subdued by the 'tactics' of the surge, still exist and are ripe for provocation by al Qaeda, which would almost certainly ignite again civil war in Iraq, a civil war that could easily descend into genocide,” said Salter, who served as McCain’s longtime chief of staff in the Senate.

“To say that invading Iraq was used as a recruiting tool for al Qaeda is one thing. To pretend that our defeat there won't provide an even bigger one is foolish supposition,” Salter continued. “Iran, which trains Shia extremists and is known to arm and equip Sunni extremists, a fact Sen. Obama is apparently unaware of, will also view our premature withdrawal as a victory, as will other countries in the region, and the biggest state supporter of terrorists, a country with nuclear ambitions and a stated desire to destroy the State of Israel, will see its influence in the Middle East grow significantly.”

Salter said Obama mischaracterizes McCain’s positions on troop levels in Iraq, and misses the point of the counterinsurgency strategy. McCain is on a week-long trip to the Middle East and Europe, meeting with the heads of Iraq, Jordan, Israel, England and France.

“The reason violence is down is because General Petraeus' counterinsurgency is, which even Senator Obama recognizes, succeeding. Those 'tactics,' are advancing our 'strategy.' Deprive General Petraeus of the resources and manpower to employ those tactics, or worse, leave Iraq altogether, and our strategy will collapse,” Salter said. “That is national security 101.”

He said McCain will bring American forces home when U.S. interests in Iraq are safe, when al Qaeda is defeated, when Iran’s influence is contained and civil war in Iraq is remote.

“That, I think, is what is called 'making us safer,'” Salter said. “Senator Obama's plan, if it can be charitably described as one, would do the reverse."

Update: Obama campaign responds to McCain campaign's response to Obama's Iraq speech:
“We wish the McCain campaign well as they try to figure out the difference between Iran and al Qaeda. Yesterday, Senator McCain said that Iran is “taking al Qaeda into Iran, training them and sending them back,” to Iraq. This was shortly after telling talk radio host Hugh Hewitt, “As you know, there are al Qaeda operatives that are taken back into Iran, given training as leaders, and they’re moving back into Iraq.” Or does Senator McCain believe the clarification that he issued yesterday, “I'm sorry, the Iranians are training extremists, not al Qaeda.” Or does he believe the statement that he issued today: “Al Qaeda and Shia extremists -- with support from external powers such as Iran -- are on the run but not defeated." Huh?

“Does this sound familiar? Back in February 2003, before the war in Iraq began, there was no operational connection between Iraq and al Qaeda. But John McCain was saying that we had to invade and occupy a country that had no ties to the terrorists who carried out the 9/11 attacks because of Iraq’s, “support for the international terrorism of Al Qaeda.” Despite all of his Washington experience, John McCain voted for, supported, and continues to support the greatest strategic blunder in American foreign policy in decades. Osama bin Laden and the core leadership of al Qaeda responsible for the 9/11 attacks are not in Iraq. They are reportedly in northwest Pakistan, which is over 1,000 miles from Iraq. So while John McCain likes to boast of his willingness to follow Osama bin Laden to the Gates of Hell, all he has done is follow George Bush into a misguided war in Iraq while Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda have regrouped, and the Taliban is resurgent in Afghanistan.

“This fall, John McCain will support George Bush Foreign Policy 101: endless war in Iraq; a policy of not talking to adversaries that has not worked; and a disturbing tendency to conflate very different threats. Barack Obama will offer a clean break from the failed policies of the past. He will end the war in Iraq, finish the job in Afghanistan, and focus on the threats of the 21st century,” said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.

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Obama is a RACIST.

Of course this NEOPHYTE knows nothing about foreign policy, and this includes Iraq.

He has HOPE, he has CHANGE, he has PRETTY SPEECHES, but he has NO SUBSTANCE or ACTION.

Now we know the guy is a RACIST as well.

He cannot win the general, and if he is the nominee over Clinton, the only other qualified candidate is McCain.


"McCain camp: Obama flunks ‘National Security 101"

Oh really?!?!?

This dumb old man (McCain) must be suffering from short-term memory loss..


I'm going to keep re-posting this (deal with it nutty wingnuts) because it proves that Obama is right about Iraq.

Here's McCain the self-proclaimed war "expert" proving that he doesn't even understand the very fundamentals of his signature campaign issue, IRAQ.


In comments to reporters in Jordan, John McCain demonstrated that he does not understand even the most basic of facts about his signature issue, the Iraq War.


From the Washington Post:

Sen. John McCain, traveling in the Middle East to promote his foreign policy expertise, misidentified in remarks Tuesday which broad category of Iraqi extremists are allegedly receiving support from Iran.

He said several times that Iran, a predominately Shiite country, was supplying the mostly Sunni militant group, al-Qaeda...

McCain said he and two Senate colleagues traveling with him continue to be concerned about Iranian operatives "taking al-Qaeda into Iran, training them and sending them back."

Pressed to elaborate, McCain said it was "common knowledge and has been reported in the media that al-Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran, that's well known. And it's unfortunate." A few moments later, Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear. McCain then said: "I'm sorry, the Iranians are training extremists, not al-Qaeda."
Al Qaeda in Iraq is of course entirely dominated by Sunni extremists who view all Shiites as heretics. The rise of Al Qaeda in Iraq and everything it has done there has been shaped by it's contempt for Shiites. The course of the insurgency, down to and including the "Sunni Awakening", has reflected that fanatical hostility that Al Qaeda brought to bear inside Iraq. Iranian involvement in financing and supporting Shiite militias in Iraq came partly in reaction to the rise of Al Qaeda in Iraq.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/18/a_mccain_gaffe_in_jordan.html


This isn't just a minor slip. This betrays a profound lack of foreign policy expertise, a shallowness so extreme that if the remark had been made by Barack Obama, say, it would have called into question his viability as a presidential candidate.

So you should expect the "serious" thinkers of the traditional media to dismiss the gaffe as 'trivial'. We are not allowed even to consider the possibility that John McCain is a foreign policy lightweight...not with all the pchychopath Neocon foreign policy advisers he's assembled.
http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/03/17/mccain-advisers/

McCain made the same assertion last night on Hugh Hewitt's program.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/18/mccain-iran-al-qaeda/


Of course Obama flunks Foreign Policy 101. The man has no experience outside of running for president.

He hangs out with bombers like William Ayers, and racists like Farrakhan and Wright.

He can't be trusted.


I'm shocked. Not. Now I'm sure we will have a lot of people clarifying what Obama really meant. And a lot of time spent on whether or not AQ has ties to iR radicals that are equipping them....


"MCCAIN SPEAKS"

SO WHAT IF I'M NOT THE "CHAIRMAN" SO WHAT IF MY AIDES ARE SPEAKING ON MY BEHALF WHILE I'M SAND BOWLING IN IRAQ. SO WHAT IF I DIDN'T KNOW SHIA, SUNNI, OR WHO THE REAL AL QUEDA ARE TODAY.

WE ARE LOCK STEP IN A "QUAGMIRE" AND WHEN YOU HEAR THE WORD "QUAGMIRE" YOU NEED DICK CHENEY TO SAY YOU AN SPEAK ABOUT HIS "QUAGMIRE"

SO "IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE PEOPLE IN THE SENATE WHO ARE CLEAR-EYED REALISTS" (GWB 2002 REMARKS IN SIOUX FALLS, SD) "IRAQ MUST DISARM"

SO WHAT IF WE MADE A MISTAKE THEN AND NOW, SO WHAT, SO WHAT, SO WHAT.

SO WHAT IF OUR MILTARY MEN RETURNING FROM IRAQ HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN. LOOK WHAT IT TOOK FOR "AMERICA TO FIND ME"

SO WHAT SO WHAT. YOU ARE STILL DEAD WRONG. SO WHAT SO WHAT. OUR GOP BEAT WILL GO ON AND ON. UNTIL DICK CHENEY SAYS WE CAN GET OUT OF HIS"QUAGMIRE"


Barack Hussein Obama flunks foreign policy because he has no cred in this area.

He lied in his speech monday too.

He said Friday he never sat in a pew where he heard racist preaching against America and whites. Buit then yesterday he said "YES" I heard it.

So, Barack, which is it?


"He said McCain will bring American forces home when U.S. interests in Iraq are safe, when al Qaeda is defeated, when Iran’s influence is contained and civil war in Iraq is remote."

I think this means never.


That's funny coming from a guy who doesn't know which way is up.


On this, the fifth anniversary of the Iraq war (aka "The Great 1,827 Day And Counting War"), I cede this space to my friends from the Republican party, who are much "smarter" than any of us lefties. They must be taken seriously, for they are the fierce and mighty warrior class:

"Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof---the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."
---George W. Bush, 10/7/02
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"We will, in fact, be greeted as liberators."
---Dick Cheney, 3/16/03
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"There's a certain amount of pop psychology in America that the Shia can't get along with the Sunni and the Shia in Iraq just want to establish some kind of Islamic fundamentalist regime. There's almost no evidence of that at all. Iraq's always been very secular."
---Bill Kristol, 4/1/03
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It's amazing that more than two weeks into the liberation of Iraq---as residents in Basra are cheering British forces and Americans occupy Baghdad's airport and Saddam Hussein's main presidential palace---the antiwar crowd is still spinning a doomsday scenario. But it's getting harder and harder to take seriously the claim that freeing Iraq will make it harder to win the war on terrorism. Indeed, there's plenty of evidence to the contrary. [...] Who said war never solved anything?
---Brendan Miniter, The Wall Street Journal, 4/8/03
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"The only people who think this wasn't a victory are Upper Westside liberals."
---Charles Krauthammer, 4/19/03
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Ted Koppel: [Y]ou’re not suggesting that the rebuilding of Iraq is going to be done for $1.7 billion?
Andrew Natsios [Agency for International Development]: Well, in terms of the American taxpayer's contribution, I do. This is it for the U.S.
---4/23/03
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[Liberals] can't deny that President Bush has won his two wars, and won them resoundingly.
---Paul Mirengoff, Powerline, 4/26/03
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"The three-week swing through Iraq has utterly shattered skeptics' complaints."
---Tony Snow, Fox News, 4/27/03


And from the man (McCain) who claims his judgment qualifies him to be Commander-in-Chief?

"I believe that the success will be fairly easy." (9/24/02)
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"We’re not going to have a bloodletting of trading American bodies for Iraqi bodies." (9/29/02)
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"We will win this conflict. We will win it easily." (1/22/03)
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"[T]here’s no doubt in my mind, once these people are gone, that we will be welcomed as liberators." (3/24/03)
---Senator John McCain


McCain is a bad joke, only a slightly less grotesque joke than Bush.

His truly uninformed comments about al Qaeda and Iran the other day in public show us exactly who flunks National Security 101.

He got that exactly wrong, as anyone who reads the newspapers knows.

Vote McCain for a hundred years in Iraq.


I believe most Americans know what issues we face as a nation as we try to decide which candidate(s) will best resolve them. We see in John McCain’s life, past and present a devotion to serve his country. Anyone who knows Senator McCain will tell you that he has passion for what he believes in and a constant drive to serve his country to the best of his abilities with sincerity, truthfulness, and dedication.

I remember seeing John on the Forrestall the morning of the flight deck fire, he was really beat up, but after some medical treatment he was transferred to the Enterprize and joined up with an attack squadron and that same day launched off in a A6A attack aircraft to provide close ground air support for our troops in Viet Nam. That same day his aircraft was shot down and he was taken prisoner.

Most Americans are aware of the courageous service John provided as a naval aviator and POW . But few can fully appreciate how bad the egregious hospitality of the Hanoi Hilton really was .His main concerns were for other POWs’ life threatening conditions and how he could help them is spite of the injuries he had received prior to and during his confinement.
Our convictions about John's character were born in the crucible of adversity. We have witnessed his courage, integrity, character and intellect. We know and respect his sense of honor and his tenacity in the face of grave danger and prolonged hardship. These qualities, combined with his life experiences, make John ready for the enormous challenges facing the leader of our country. No one -- no one – has a greater knowledge of war is really like or more qualified to be president, to lead our country and protect our nation. We know him. We know his strengths, his love of country and his commitment to serve it. He has been severely tested, and we have witnessed him under pressure. We trust his judgment and his ability to surround himself with our countries best advisors to lead our country to continued prosperity and safety in these difficult times.
.We could do a whole lot worse than vote for John Mc Cain as our next president of the United States for every man, woman and child in our country regardless of their political affiliation. In John’s administration there are no Democrats or Republicans only Americans.

God Speed John Mc Cain


A year ago I might have actually voted for Mc Cain. But lately all I hear is endless babbling from the driver of the "Pander Express".

He has become Pro-war, Pro-torture and Pro-gun.

All for votes.


McCain repeated his 'mistake' today. That's 3 days in a row--very Rovian of him to continue to lie until people believe him.


McCain is just another of Israel's puppets. Joseph Lieberman, the pro-Israeli operative in the Senate, was coaching McCain because Lieberman knows his "foreign policy" as do his fellow Israeli supporters.

The fact that Salter (another Zionist operative perhaps?) mentions protecting the State of Israel which is the only country in the Middle East besides Pakistan that has a large arsenal of nuclear weapons is almost ludicrous. Israel is the 4th most powerful nuclear power in the world. Why should Americans be sacrificed to protect it against its third world neighbors who have NO nuclear weapons. You want to talk about manipulating American foreign policy to fit a racist agenda, talk about the Zionist dream of Greater Israel at the cost of the lives of "non-Jews" (goyims).

McCain is being used by the Israelis to further their ambitions in the Middle East. Look at who his advisors are and make certain you pay attention to who his running mate will be because if his running mate is a Neo-con/pro-Israeli sympathizer, you'll know who is running the show. Then, be afraid, be very afraid.


What a scary pair in this photo...could this be our new Pres & Veep?


To think Mr. Obama has the gall to mock McCain. I would suggest, that since John McCain is a former Navy pilot that he has far more training and experience in the matters of war. As far as his voting for the war, the majority of congressmen did so after the incredable amount of evidence was present (and since proven to be fabricated for that purpose). Mr. Obama was not privy to all that information. Oh yah, he wasn't even able to vote for or against it! Yet he stands there and accuses others. I could only imagine his vote if he were in Congress then - "Present". That way he couldn't be held accountable one way or another. Usinf his lawyers guile, he can talk around any subject and divert the real issues. The more I hear of him as this election continues, the further up his bottom side goes his head! Please save us from this impending train wreck!


McCain is going to show the Republican Party just how big of Losers they really are. Can't wait.


And this comment from the two that would rush us into more wars.


Alternate Caption;

(In their heads)

Joe;
'OK, there's no freedom 'from' religion. So, what religion shall there be no freedom from?'

McBush;
'...so we put a couple US destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin, then provoke a confrontation, then....'


Jimmy Venom, Thanks. Nothing illustrates the Republicans complete lack of credibility as clearly as the words that they speak or print.


"I remember seeing John on the Forrestall the morning of the flight deck fire, he was really beat up, but after some medical treatment he was transferred to the Enterprize and joined up with an attack squadron and that same day launched off in a A6A attack aircraft to provide close ground air support for our troops in Viet Nam. That same day his aircraft was shot down and he was taken prisoner."

Hey "John's Son" maybe you should talk to daddy and get the story straight. The fire on the Forrestal happened on July 29, 1967. McCain was shot down in November.

That was one LONG flight.

Quite making up stuff to make him sound good.


John E = Jimmy Venom = Public Servant


Oh, yeah, and invading a country that wasn't a direct threat to us using fabricated intel - yeah, if thats passing "Security 101" than I need to apply to Harvard because I could be a frikin' geni ass.


Scary to think McCain could be Mr. Magoo with launch codes.

Obama never claimed to be strong on foreign experience. That would be Hillary saving the world at 3 am with everyone hugging.

Obama is a not racist. He hit the nail on the head when he said everyone's known someone that's said something that made you cringe. Michael Richards, Mel Gibson, Kelly Tilghman and many others said things that made everyone cringe. Not writing off someone takes biblical courage.


McBush flunks world-view 101. Please, the 100 year war. Economics and foreign policy are not glowing endorsements for the Mac attack. I like him as a good dude but president???

Obama 2008. Look on the bright side wing nuts, it'll give you eight years of something to b%tch about. Lord knows you have to do something in between drinking kool aid.


McCain's endorsement from, and association with, Sen Lieberman is reason enough to question his qualifications for president.

Lieberman is in a number of ways the most dangerous man in the Senate. An advocate of censorship, an advocate of bombing everyone who doesn't smile enough, a political turncoat, a geriatric advote of backwardness and privilege, and a generally unpleasant man.

With his every speech and act, he treats Israel as though it were part of his own Senate District, instead of a foreign power.

With Lieberman at McCain's side, it is fair to ask whose security is he talking about?


Grampa McCain has yet to be right about anything, so any advice coming from that nitwit has to be taken with a barrel full of salt. Even more amusing is his nasty little buddy, Loserman who's even more clueless.


A CAPTURED soldier, is a BAD soldier.


I think Dickie Durbin's guy Barrack Hussein Obama is in over his head.
The driveby media let this actor go unvetted and undisturbed for a year before Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity did their work for them asking questions about Obama friend indicted Tony Rezko and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright was so careless he sold DVD's of his sermons/rants against white people.Weather underground guy William Ayres also raises why would Obama be talking to him. It goes on and on.The drivebys never knew that he was so deep in the Democrat Chicago machine as to not have been a unique change agent.
He and Durbin are leftist socialists that won't rest until they bankrupt our nation. Jerry White, Springfield, IL


“Iran, which trains Shia extremists and is known to arm and equip Sunni extremists, a fact Sen. Obama is apparently unaware of, will also view our premature withdrawal as a victory, as will other countries in the region, and the biggest state supporter of terrorists, a country with nuclear ambitions and a stated desire to destroy the State of Israel, will see its influence in the Middle East grow significantly.”

Iran and other countries in the region will declare victory? From what? We are not at war with them. Be afraid of John McCain, he already has the "IRAN" war on the horizon. And America will fall into deeper despair and economic hardship.


John McCain on Foreign Policy:

Kill them all and let God sort it out.


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