The Swamp
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Posted March 5, 2008 12:38 PM
The Swamp

by Mike Dorning

Barack Obama is firing back at Hillary Clinton just hours after she picked up two big victories in the Ohio and Texas primaries, partly on the strength of a dramatic last-minute television ad challenging his readiness to answer a "3 a.m. phone call" as commander-in-chief.

Minutes ago, the Obama campaign sent out a memo to reporters challenging Clinton's frequent claims that she is "fully vetted" after more than 16 years in national politics and questioning her refusal to release her tax returns before receiving the Democratic nomination.

Following a standard of disclosure set by former Sen. Paul Simon (D-Ill.) and maintained by the the state's current senior U.S. senator, Dick Durbin, Obama has released his tax returns every year since he first ran for the U.S. Senate in 2004.

Here's the statement:

"More than a year into this campaign," the Obama campaign claims, "some very simple vetting of Hillary Clinton has yet to start."

In the face of her unwillingness to release her tax returns, Hillary Clinton has made the false case in this campaign that she is more electable because she has been fully vetted. When it comes to her personal finances, Senator Clinton’s refusal to release her taxes returns denies the media and the American people the opportunity to even begin that process. Though her campaign has tried to kick the issue down the road, Democratic voters deserve to know, right now, why it is she is hiding the information in her tax returns from last year.

The Clinton campaign has said that they have released copious amounts of financial information but there are many questions about their private dealings that could be answered in their tax returns but not in the information that is currently available. For example, here are eight pieces of information that could be learned from her tax returns, the accompanying schedules, and attachments:

Effective tax rate – including whether or not any tax shelters were used to reduce it
Amount of income for spouses by source
Amount of stock gains and losses
Gross income for the couple
Amount earned from stock dividends
Amount of household employment taxes paid
Personal exemptions taken
Charitable contributions made

Senator Clinton has also claimed that she is too “busy” to release her tax returns. Given the fact she is able to loan her campaign $5 million, you would think the Clintons would be able to hire an accountant. The reality is that she wants to keep this information hidden from voters. The people of Wyoming, Mississippi, Pennsylvania and the rest of the country should wonder why.

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I feel like it's a" Mickey D" commercial
and I'm likin it !!


Releasing the old returns is easy, even if they don't have this year's. (April 16th, though, 2007 better be out.)

Come on, Clinton people, choose one of the following:
•There's nothing there, but she prefers to create the appearance of a scandal.
•There's something there, but after she's formally nominated, it'll be too late, no matter what the buyer's remorse. Her or McCain.
•She's running for president because she wants to live a quiet life out of the public eye.


"The reality is that she wants to keep this information hidden from voters."


Another reality is that Obama wants to keep any information about him and Rezko away from the voters.

Obama's stonewalling makes it obvious that he has something to hide.


Why wait to April to release them, especially the 2006 returns?

What will be different in April other than more people will have voted without all the information they should have. Maybe she is hoping the primary will be over by then, but that is not how it is going.

Clinton brings this upon herself with the "fully vetted" stance she took.

How can she say she is fully vetted with this hanging out there?


What do they want with that information? Is it relevant?When will he come clean about Rezko? Now that is an issue because the guy is a crook. All those asking for her returns start posting yours on the internet for us and all your neighbor to take a look at OK! Then you will have a leg to stand on. Until then don't be in your glass house trowing stones. I'd like to see Chris Matthews and Keith Olhbermans too. What do they have to hide since they attack Hillary every chance they get. Do they have stock in Excelon like the Messiah! Can a coke snorting neighborhood organizer run a fortune 500 company by giving good speeches? I think not. What makes this guy think he is qualified to run the largest economy in the world. The Red State Messiah can't win real Democrats only those that are Democrats for a day!


Dear Barack,

You're a sports fan, so you'll understand this analogy: playing prevent defense when you're ahead is playing not to lose as opposed to playing to win--and as you know, many teams have lost their lead by this timid strategy. We need you to finish what you started in the way that you started. So please consider the following:

1. Start inspiring us again. Hillary looks silly and curmudgeonly when she mocks the power of words and speeches and the power of a movement. Words are inspiring because of the message and the messenger: we want change, and you embody this possibility. Hillary cannot compete with you in this arena because she embodies the divisive and disheartening politics of power and manipulation. Lately, you've seemed to want to prove that you can out wonk her, so as to prove that you're more than speeches--but the millions that have been voting for you know that you are. We're not that blind. We want change, and we believe that you can help administer this change by offering power back to the people. So stop trying to prove that you're more than speeches because that's just reacting to Hillary's desperation. Do not allow it to work. She'd love to make you an uninspiring wonkette. As a former academic, there's a big difference between KNOWLEDGE in one's specialties in the Ivory Tower and the WISDOM of sound judgment (applied knowledge) in the real world.

2. Defend us! Do not let Hillary off the hook when she mocks millions and millions of your voters by portraying us as delusional and starry-eyed. She's not just trying to have a laugh; she's trying to make us seem like idiots for believing in you. Defend us! Tell her to stop insulting democratic voters. Tell her it's offensive. Tell her she can attack you, but to stop attacking those voters that support her party. Tell the world that the difference between you and her is that you continue to respect her voters by stating that she's a solid candidate and welcoming their participation, while she consistently dismisses and discredits every person and state that does not vote for her. That's a big difference between the two of you and its telling. Her politics is petulant and juvenile--and you should stop helping her get away with it by calling it a good joke. We vote for you BECAUSE we're thoughtful and critical about our world, BECAUSE we're not so easily duped by the Clinton machine, BECAUSE we're tired of high school politics--so tell her enough is enough, BECAUSE she's not insulting you but the American people who are not on her side (which has always been her M.O.)

3. No need to play dirty, but it's okay to question her great claim of experience, especially if that's her primary argument for being the next President (I see that you're beginning to do just that). Experience is fine, but what kind of experience? For example, experience in corporate law or on the Wal-Mart board or on international tours with Sinbad and Sheryl Crow or in political divisiveness--is not experience we can believe in. Rather it's the kind of EXPERIENCE we can't believe in. In other words, it's not experience that matters; it's the kind of experience that matters. That's difference is what will allow you to challenge both Clinton and McCain. The kind of experience that Lincoln had (similar to your own experience) was more important than the kind of experience that Bush had (most significantly, a direct relation to a former President a la Hillary). So what is the real substance of her experience?

So, Barack, please continue to play to win, regardless if you're the underdog or frontrunner. Do what you do best: Lead, Inspire, and Defend WE, the People.


There are bigger things to tackle right now, including that Ohio has a history of voter fraud. Hillary's smug confidence that she was going to win "big time" in Ohio occurred just 48 hours before the primaries. DId she have some insider information about something?? Check out the book, 'What Happened in Ohio: A documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election," by Bob Fitrakis and Steve Rosenfeld. The 2008 election is dubious because of complaints of ballot shortages, voters sent to defunct voting sites, sounds like disenfranchisement to me...


Obama is falling apart without the press honeymoon that made him look so good up to now.

On the Today Show he claimed that he won Michigan, where he wasn't even on the ballot, and screwed up the name of the reporter interviewing him.

http://bigheaddc.com/2008/03/05/obama-rattled-2/

This truly shows you how much of a difference media treatment makes.


STOP CRYING OBAMABOY! YOU LOST BIG! sore looser! When Obamas friends and financial backers are either in court or jail. Obama and his boytoy Axelrod are grasping at straws in desperate times. " These times are a changin" Looks like the media love affair with media coronated Obama is over and he cant handle the heat! time for him to get out and stay out of the kitchen.
OR...tell us about Rezko?, Renzi?, Former Dallas Mayor Hill? Mr.Aunchi? OR, his meeting with Canada, OR According to Muslim religion, father’s religion determines the religion of the offspring. Therefore, Obama was truly once a Muslim and the law in Islam called TAGIYEH which means you can lie about your religion in order to do good for Allah! what good is Obama hoping to do for Allah? OR, Obama agreeing and highly respecting the actions and opinions of his spiritual advisor Rev. Wright who has recently awarded Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam Minister with their churches highest award. Might I add Oprah attends the same church! OR Obama camp calling African-American superdelegates to target, harass and threaten,” said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.), a superdelegate who supports Clinton. Cleaver said black superdelegates are receiving “nasty letters, phone calls, threats, being called an Uncle Tom. Rep. Diane Watson, D-Calif., also is receiving several e-mails from individuals saying they won’t vote for her if she doesn’t change her support to Obama, she should vote for him because she, too, is black. Rep. John Lewis, a black civil rights icon, sadly enough has given into the racial threatning politics of the Obama camp and switched his support from Clinton to Obama.

VOTE FOR CLINTON, WE HAVE PLAYED WITH OPRAHBAMA LONG ENOUGH! we need a True American leader and thats not Obama.


"Like a man bitten by his own dog" was how Dana Milbank described Barack Obama's expression Monday as he faced the most hostile press corps of his campaign.

The honeymoon is over.
http://www.slate.com/id/2185807/


She HASN'T released THEM??? Get on her Media!!!!


Oh Obama give it a rest, when you answer all the questions regarding your association/friendship with Rezko you will have reason to cry. In the meantime dry you eyes with the press your Michelle is creating and get on with it.


Why wait to April to release them, especially the 2006 returns?

What will be different in April other than more people will have voted without all the information they should have. Maybe she is hoping the primary will be over by then, but that is not how it is going.

Clinton brings this upon herself with the "fully vetted" stance she took.

How can she say she is fully vetted with this hanging out there?


Tony, what about the games Obama's team played with the Texas caucuses? That really needs some looking into. Come on distributing forms before the caucus when the forms were not supposed to be distributed until the voters were in the caucus rooms. Dirty, dirty, dirty.


Obama only lost 12 earned delegates in the primaries in Texas, Ohio & Rhode Island including the gain in Vermont.
Ref is npr.
u may check.
Lost 9 in Ohio
Lost 1 in Texas (Results of 10 more del not yet announced)
5 in RI
Gained 3 in Vermont
By the way, Obama may get more out of the 10 delegates in TX & win.
Earlier he had 154 earned delegates & now has 142.
I think Hillary has not gained much.


Hillary Clinton is not a real leader.

Real leaders take responsibility for their own actions rather than play the victim card over and over again. How will a leader of another country respond when Hillary pulls out the "Unfair!" card as president? Probably with a laugh. Every time something goes wrong with her, she claims that she was duped, or tricked, or treated unfairly.

Enough. Time for Hillary to show she really is tough by taking some responsibility for once in her life.

Second,

She has no experience. Her own supporters cannot name one single foreign affairs experience of hers or a single successful domestic policy. They just say she was in the Clinton White House, and then refuse to admit that there is no record of her service. Which is why they won't release those Clinton documents -- and here she goes blaming Bill and Bush for the slowdown.

She's a fraud. A total media creation. She has no business running for president, and women should be OUTRAGED that so many more deserving and qualified women, who earned it themselves, have to take a back seat to this hack.


Is this all you have Obama? A childish, pathetic attack on Senator Clinton? Why don't you actually start showing the American people what your plans are and what you really have to offer this nation. Why are you qualified to be our nation's president? Because you've served two seconds in the senate? Hillary is catching up to you, and you better watch out. GAME ON!!


Obama only lost 12 earned delegates in the primaries in Texas, Ohio & Rhode Island including the gain in Vermont.
Ref is npr.
u may check.
Lost 9 in Ohio
Lost 1 in Texas (Results of 10 more del not yet announced)
5 in RI
Gained 3 in Vermont
By the way, Obama may get more out of the 10 delegates in TX & win.
Earlier he had 154 earned delegates & now has 142.
I think Hillary has not gained much.


Can we get some coverage in the tribune of the fact that a lot of hillary votes in texas came from republicans trying to prolong the democratic primary? Rush Limbaugh specifically called on people to do this and I have seen coverage of it in blogs, but not here.


The tax returns are relevant since they will reveal the Clinton's source of income, which is rumored to include a $20 million interest in several Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds. For a candidate who has condoned the innuendo that Obama is a Muslim (as if that makes a difference), it could be embarrassing.


The American people have Questions for you. Why if Rezko is $50 million in debt how did he afford to buy that lot? Why did Rezko 3 week before you purchased your house did Rezko get a loan for 3.5 million from Mr, Auchi? Then you and Rezko took a friendly walk though. How is it a big politician like you from Chicago doesn't know that there are corruption problems, you don't live in a cave.


Apparently, the Chicago Tribune has been writing exhaustively about the Rezko deal for nothing. None of these Clinton trolls have read a thing about Rezko and what Obama has said about his deal--which was a mistake because of the perception, though it was legal.

Clintonites need to face reality that their candidate is running on her husband's record, not her own, and to top it off she even stole Obama's "Yes, We Can" mantra.

She's so dependent on men that it should make any independent woman sick.


She's done this before (her 1980 return showed a windfall from cattle futures) and for good reason. She had something to hide last time and has something to hide now - something that would cost her the nomination. What's she afraid of??? Getting caught!


So Obama is starting to feel the heat from his opposition, the Rezko trial and his support of Farrakhan. Finally, America you are waking up....


Obama is not the person to bring sanity back to the White House, and this nation. He is an eloquent opportunist filled with ideas taken out of the context of public opinion. His agenda is his own using the ploy of inspiration and so-called change. We need someone who can "practice what he/she preaches", not a mimic who gives back to his listeners those words he heard on the campaign trail. His ideas are great if he had depth; Obama's depth is the spoken or written word, no further. His campaign advisor Axelrod is in it for gain - the gain is Power to control the destiny of whomever he pleases, including Obama.


All citizens are wise enough to file their tax returns, she is not the first time tax-payer. Why is BHO losing his sleep chasing Clinton? Is that his part time job? Chill Out Team Obama!
Go Hillary 2008! 2012!!


I think the responses people are leaving suggest that whoever gets the nomination will probably not have the support of those who are for the other candidate. In other words, the Democrats (once again) are going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Come on, folks, let's stop the negativity and focus on getting our act together for November!


I hope Obama can hold on and squeak by so he can be resoundly defeated in November and gone now --rather than later.

Otherwise, we're going to have to suffer this con man year after year as he tries to talk and smirk his way into the nomination.


This really makes Obama look pathetic.


You Hillarites can keep saying "Rezko" all you want; there's nothing there, and repeating the word endlessly won't make it so. Any more than she killed Vince Foster just because people kept asking about it for years. (She didn't kill him... as far as I know.)

Now: What about her tax returns? Why won't she release them? Is she afraid that her and Bill's skyrocketing net worth the past few years won't sell so well in the primary? Are there contributors to the Clinton library she doesn't want us to know about? What is she so afraid of?


Obama is in no position to lecture anyone on hiding anything. When he releases the documents form his time a state senator in Il and when he comes clean about exchanging favors with Rezko then he can talk. until then he sounds like a hypocrite. The honeymoon is over and now the press is going to finally do their job and take an objective look at Obama and see what a corrupt hypocrite he really is. I got news for Obamabots, Cook County is where the sleaze pols come to play. IN IL the entire system is run on pay to play politics in both parties. Obama was a huge part of that as we all know.


WAHHHHHHH!!!! I lost mommy but Hillary hasnt released her tax returns. CRY ON OBAMA it just make you look like a sore loser and desperate. Hoefully the press will keep the pressure on him about his crooked cook county ways


Give me a break!! Just because Obama is an inspirational speaker does not mean he should be President..It is amazing that this new stream of young voters buy into this "Change" rhetoric. Just look at the mess Illinois is in because of the "Lone Ranger" Governor Blago. Don't forget the governor and Obama has strong ties to the now indicted Tony Rezco. Obama's stonewalling makes it obvious that he has something to hide.


Give me a break!! Just because Obama is an inspirational speaker does not mean he should be President..It is amazing that this new stream of young voters buy into this "Change" rhetoric. Just look at the mess Illinois is in because of the "Lone Ranger" Governor Blago. Don't forget the governor and Obama has strong ties to the now indicted Tony Rezco. Obama's stonewalling makes it obvious that he has something to hide.


Rick B - "What do they want with that information? Is it relevant? When will he come clean about Rezko? Now that is an issue because the guy is a crook.

Did you read the entire article? Did you skip the part where it stated that "Obama has released his tax returns every year since he first ran for the U.S. Senate in 2004." Dontcha think that if there was anything really scandalous that it would have shown up already?

This whole thing with Rezko is a red herring to keep people focused on Obama instead of scrutinizing Hillary's shady dealings. Did it cross your mind that she is hiding something what with not disclosing her tax returns?


Barack Obama is concerned about Hillary Clinton's tax returns but he cannot not answer questions about his connection with thew corrupt Tony Rezko. Obama comes out of a city that is lead by the corrupt Chicago Democratic political machine. Chicago is known for the slogan of "vote early, vote often." He is supposed to be the only true light out of this crooked city that will lead the country into a new era. One of his major financial backers was a highly corrupt slum lord name Tony Rezko. Obama needs to come clean on his connection with Rezko. If he does not he can forget about winning the Fall Presidential election.


Andrea - the religion card? Nice going. You are the perfect Billary constituent and the representation that turns moderate independents running the other way.


Why has the media given Hillary a free pass for not releasing her tax returns?


Obama may have "lost" Ohio and Texas, but he still leads in delegates. All-in-all, she only gained 4 delegates on him yesterday, and he still leads in number of states won and the popular vote.

And I do believe that Obama has nothing to say about Rezko because there is NOTHING to really say. Hillary is obviously hiding something!

YES WE CAN!!!!


I cannot wait until the General Election so that the legions of us spurned Obama supporters can vote REPUBLICAN, and you can bank on that! Do the math people. Obama is getting half and you put that with McCain and guess what. We GET to finally watch Hillary get hers. VOTE MCCAIN PEOPLE!!! ONLY THE REPUBLICANS, can stop the Clintons!


For those saying Obama is trying to shift the focus off of him.. Thats exactly what the Clinton camp did this past week when questioned on her taxes from the media. Out came the Obama Rezco comments from her camp to sway the focus.

Now hes doing it to her and hes the bad guy?


It is time for Hillary to release the tax documents, the donor list for the Clinton Library, and her White House schedule diary; since she is including her time as First Lady in her resume as she seeks the Democrat nomination and we the voters should have access to these documents.

If there is nothing to it then release the documents ASAP. It is false to claim that "she" does not have time to pull the documents together for those of us in higher income brackets have accountants who handle all our financial and tax documents so to get them would only take a phone call.

I am pro Obama, but I do wish that he and his people had handled the Rezko question, Naftagate, and questions about his faith differently; you just cannot give these muck makers any grounds to stand on.

I don't believe that Obama has anything to hide or that he has been engaged in any wrong doing, but he needs to learn how to nip these rumors mills and crews of professional lairs in the bud.

A law professor once told me, you tell before they do and this is one piece of the best advice I had ever been given


"Bama-lama" has to come up with something/// How about his statement that as soon as he is elected President he will call a meeting to discuss NAFTA with the Presidents of Mexico and Canada. Since when does Canada have a President??? So much for his foreign policies....


"Bama" has to come up with something ! How about his statement that as soon as he is elected President he will call a meeting to discuss NAFTA with the Presidents of Mexico and Canada. Since when does Canada have a President??? So much for his foreign policies....

Suppose with his name starting with "O" he will want us to think he is now Irish for St. Paddys day?


I cannot believe what kind of nuts get on these things. I am in Dallas and it is obvious to all of us here that the only reason that hillary won here yesterday was because of the stupid crossover vote from the republicans who know that she is the one they can defeat. Why do you think that nut job on the radio was telling people to vote for her. The republicans know that Senator Obama has a ground swell of support behind him and then when he gets into the office he will use his position with the people behind him to bring real change to washington. Hillary is a sham, always has been and always will be.


Why is Hillary supposed to be ready to be Commander In Chief and Obama isn't - she never served in the military, either. Merely advocating for stupid wars doesn't make you qualified to lead.

And what is all this experience she's supposed to have? What has she done, exactly, apart from being married to her husband while he was the President, and spending a few undistinguished years in the Senate?

And all this "vetting" she has supposedly gone through - isn't financial disclosure a pretty basic form of vetting? Isn't that lack of transparency what got her into trouble with Whitewater and her various other financial scandals?

Finally, if Obama is supposed to answer for Farrakhan's support of him, shouldn't Hillary answer for Rush Limbaugh's warm endorsement of her candidacy?


I don't believe that Obama has anything to hide or that he has been engaged in any wrong doing..."
Posted by: Pat | March 5, 2008 5:15 PM

Then why won't he talk to the press? Reporters from the both the Trib and SunTimes have been asking him for interviews for months now to clear up the Rezko matter. he refuses.
The only reasonable explanation is that he has something to hide.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/820948,CST-NWS-sweet01.article


Can any of the Hillaryheads on her please tell us what her great experience is?

Can you name SPECIFIC instances where she dictated and drove a policy change that actually happened? Where she took a leadership role?

I asked this earlier and all I got back was whining about Rezko. Typical Hillary Clinton supporter approach: When asked anything about your candidate not about her gender or something she can play the victim card on, you have nothing to say so you change the subject.

There is an empty suit in this race who is all talk and no action; all hat and no cattle. That suit is a pantsuit.


Remember Hillary haters and Obama cult followers,
It takes 2025 delegates to win the Democratic nomination. At this point NIETHER candidate can reach that. PERIOD. Not who has more. Thats where the superdelegates come into play, which Hillary has most in her back pocket. It ain't over til the Fat lady sings, and I don't see Oprah in sight.


What's the problem with Mr. Obama stating the facts? You can't argue with the truth! Besides, if Hillary can dish it, she ought to be able to take it!


I do find it mighty curious that Hillary is stonewalling on this information. Her personal loan of $5 million to her campaign makes it fair game as it raises questions about just where the Clintons' recently acquired wealth is coming from. We were told that they left the White House virtually broke and saddled with millions of dollars in legal bills from the Whitewater and Monicagate affairs. Now, just 8 years later, their personal fortune is estimated at somewhere between $20 million to $50 million---eyebrow-raising figures, considering she's been a fulltime Senator and he's been running a foundation since he left office. Of course, the Clintons have shown remarkable business acumen in the past, like the spectacular profits Hillary made on cattle futures trading which netted $100,000 on a $1,000 investment in a 10-month period while she was First Lady of Arkansas. So maybe they're just financial Merlins. Still, I think the public has a right to know just how many payrolls Bill is on, and whose, and for what services rendered, to bring in that kind of sudden wealth, at least to the extent those funds may be going to support her presidential campaign.


I'm pretty sur we've pretty much gone as far we go in regards to the Rezko-Obama relationship. What more is he supposed to come clean about? I dn't get it. He began a relationship and accepted donation from someone who at first seemed quite average, or even better (a developer trying to find a way to make som emoney off the affordable housing iniatives and incentives - there are plenty of them). However Rezko shadiness began to come out. Though Obama did NO favors for him. His campaigns received about $150K from Rexzo and friends, which was returned long ago. Any person with real knowledge about real estate knows that the real estate thing was nothing out of ordinary. No special prices and nothing about Obamas part of deal to indicate anything out of the ordinary - even after the press has seen all the documents relating to the transaction.

Keep trying to find something "more" about the Obama-Rezko connection. You won;t find anything, its all already out there. Other pols might get snagged, but Obama's involment si what it is - and its what everyone already knows it is - not all that much.


Odd how Clinton brings up "NAFTA-gate" when her first co-presidency had quite a few "gates" of its own, such as Travelgate, Whitewatergate, nannygate, Vince Fostergate, to name a few. She has something to hide in her tax returns, which is Bill's Middle Eastern income. Clinton showed nasty campaigning works. It's time for Obama to get really nasty. Clinton's gotten away with favorable media treatment too long. Everyone's talking about Rezko (guess what, there's nothing on Obama), and no one's talking about why the Clintons took campaign money from Norman Hsu, said they'd give it back, but then reneged. Plus, Clinton's the queen of shady real estate deals (what else was Whitewater?).


Hey Obama why won't you answer aqll the questions about Rezko what are you hiding. O(h and why deo you only go after and where young voters are why not come out and answer questions that us older Americans have also. Seems like you are trying to still do the TEXAS TWO STEP


How about this? Obama, if you agree to answer each of the questions posed to you regarding your relationship with Rezko, Hillary releases her returns. Deal? I didn't think so...


The fact that Hillary's supporters think she can beat McCain in a general election is more evidence that the Establishment Democrats are... well, politically stupid. A vote for Hillary at this point is a vote for John McCain.

Hillary can't use her 'experience' since McCain has more, she can't use the Iraq war since he's been consistent and she's flip-flopped, she can't claim McCain's too inside because she's more entrenched than he is, she can't use the amnesty argument because she supported the bill too, she can't call him a Bush lapdog because he built a career as a rebel Republican, she can't say he has too big a temper because of her "F---n jew bastards," line and other racist mumblings over the years, she can't even claim foreign policy experience over McCain because of her now-famous "medvedevev, whatever" flap. And once McCain takes Lieberman as his veep, Hillary can't even use the "let's make history" argument (again, the " I hate F___in Jew bastards" line will haunt her here).

On what grounds could any rational thinking person believe that the most hated official in the Democratic party could beat the most universally appealing man that the Republicans have to offer?

Which brings me back to my original point: Political stupidity plagues the elder Democratic base, and it has since Kennedy died... Between the miserably failed Johnson presidency, 1968's disastrous convention, Hart's "Monkey Business," Mondale's "I will raise taxes," Dukakis' nomination over more popular candidates, Gore's failure to campaign in his own home state, Kerry's "I voted for the war before I voted against it." These are all the result of establishment Democratic planning at its best. Sad sad sad, when compared to Republican strategies.

Before you Hillary supporters get indignant, remember that the only two Democrats to hold presidential office in the last 40 years, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, were the charismatic, UNPLANNED mistakes. They were outsiders. George McGovern, Tom Daschle, Dick Gephardt, Joe Biden, and Paul Tsongas having QUITE the problem with the walking liability known as Bill Clinton and the Peanut farmer from Georgia.

Simply put, the Democratic establishment hasn't put up a winning strategy since the "flower ad" of 1964, and we all know how well THAT ended. Their successes have only come from the people who give the party's establishment a headache. Obama IS that headache. Don't shoot yourself in the foot again Dems, who knows when you'll get another chance like Barack?


Ooh, Obama is turning negative!

"to top it off she even stole Obama's "Yes, We Can" mantra."

Excuse me, that is the English translation of the ILLEGALS "Si, se puede". No one OWNS that. I actually think it is a poor choice, given how many folks feel about illegals!

GO HILLARY!!!!


HRC says experience, he says 10 years legislative eperience. HRC 7 years, no first lady does not count for even 1 second!

They say Rezco, he says Vince Foster, FARC terrorist pardons, and the Rodham hillbilly boys.


They say Iraq, he says stood up in front of congress to stop it...reasons cited Afghanistan is the Al Quada haven, take a look at it now!

HRC she voted for the WAR.


Hillary=McCain=Bush, go ask Limbaugh ditto heads or whatever their pill pooping cult say.


Yes, I acknowledged one more Hillary's international achievement. That was the response of the Canadian PM to the discussion of NAFTA in the last democratic debate. And jumping on Obama only, while both candidates spoke about the same action plan to review and revise NAFTA.
Well, Bill had helped an influential Canadian businessman to aquire mauntains of uranium in Kazakhstan and make $2.5 billion during 2 years. Could we check the recent communication of the Clintons with Canada?


"Amount of household employment taxes paid " most interested in this. Nixon allways paid it!!


So much for being above the fray! Welcome to game Mr. O.


Yes, the team of Obama has reason to wonder, why, how Hilary Clinton forgot surprisingly to present her moral respectability on the condition of her incomes since she is senator...
and I shall take the liberty of asking her for his point of view in this aphorism of The rRochefoucauld " The most part of the men run the risk enough in war to save their honour; but few are meant explain always as much as it is necessary to make achieve the design for which they run the risk. "


It should be simple, since she's only had her senator job for 7 years. Should be a 1040EZ form, right?? There must be some significant skeletons in her tax returns since she's avoiding it. The Clintons can't come clean. Too much slime and corruption.

ABC (Anybody But Clinton)


Andrea - you may not realize this but perhaps it's time someone told you. You are a bigot.

You refer to Mr. Obama as a "boy". You say we should elect a "true American". And your ramblings on religion reveal your uneducated view on life. Do yourself a favor and travel the world a little. You may realize that there is a universe larger than your double-wide trailer.


I'M AMAZED THAT THE CLINTONS WHO HAS SO MANY SKELETONS IN HIS/HER BACK GROUND CAN POINT THE FINGER TO SHOW HOW SOMEONE HAD AN ASSOCIATION WITH SOMEONE ON TRIAL. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THE CLINTONS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH WHO HAS BEEN UNDER CRIMINAL SCRUTINY. IF THE MEDIA WAS RESPONSIBLE. THEY WOULD PRINT THE FACT ABOUT REZKO. IT WAS A LEGAL REAL ESTATE DEAL THAT OBAMA MADE, AND HE DID FUNDRAISING EVENTS FOR OBAMA AND SEVERAL OTHER POLITICAN. HE WAS NOT INDICTED UNDER ANY CRIME AT THAT TIME. NOW IS THIS THE TYPE OF PERSON OBAMA WANTED TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH? NO, AND HE SAID THAT. OBAMA GAVE ALL THE FUNDRAISING MONEY TO CHARITY. NOW WHAT IS REALLY AMAZING IS THAT POEPLE WILL LIE AND MAKE UP THING JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE HIM. ""LET EXAMINE WHY"? THEY MAY NOT LIKE THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN. THEY MAY NOT LIKE THE FACT THAT HE IS A GOOD ORATOR. SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT LIKE THAT HE IS MALE RUNNING AGAINST A FEMALE. PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE SOMEONE BECAUSE THERE DIFFERENT IS SUFFERING FROM A DISEASE HEART WHICH YOU'VE LEARNED AND IS NOT SOMETHING YOU ARE BORN WITH. AMERICA WE SHOULD STAND BACK AND TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT OURSELF, THERE A FEW WHO WON'T LIKE WHAT THEY SEE! BUT THIS CAN BE FIX. "TRY LOVE". TREAT EVERYONE YOU MEET THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO TREAT YOU. NOW SEE HOW MANY LIE YOU WANT TOLD ON YOURSELF. THIS IS WHAT HOPE IS ABOUT. DOING SOMETHING THAT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I BELIEVE WE CAN. LIVE ON HOPE!
LET GET AMERCIA BACK ON TRACK!!!


You want to talk scandal???? Are Clinton supporter REALLY throwing stones?

Whitewater. Vincent Foster. Fundraiser Jonny Chung. Castle Grand deal. Travelgate. Monica Lewinsky. Paula Jones. "Right-wing conspiracy against Bill". Dick Morris and the hooker. And I could go on.

C'mon people. Don't even think about playing the scandal card against Obama. That would be DUMB!


Does it really matter? This race is over and I think Obama should keep running a positive campaign and just ignore the Clintons. It's time to start focusing on the general election. The Clinton can keep the futile campain going. The fact of the matter is, the Clinton's are still more than 150 delegates behind Obama and there are less that 700 pledge delegates left. That means the Clintons have to win about 60% of the pledge delgates left. I do not see that happening.


Will surprise me in the not very honorable way only the clan Clinton takes and abuses during his primary and caucus... Agitate fright if Obama is chosen, it is necessary to say that she voted well for the proposals of attack of Iraq; report Rezko by exempting to point out the condition of its personal incomes. I have impression to be in the Tartuffe de Molière.


Perfect timing!!!

Hilary....Where are your tax returns?


Who Cares!!! Mr.Obama...hmm sure sounds like the bells of desperation are starting to set in! We dont care about taxes! We care about how one plans on fixing the mess this country is in...and thus far your plan beginning to crumble! People respect experience and leadership...you may possible have the leadership but definitely do not have the experience. Two years in the senate doesnt count as enough experience for me and apparently many others. Seems like when your attacked and if you think Hillary was dirty...well wait till the Republicans start on ya. P.S. OBAMA HAS YET TO WIN A BIG STATE!!! WHO CARES ABOUT THE SMALL LITTLE STATES...WIN A BIG ONE BUT FOR NOW YOUR JUST A RIGHT WING TOTEN LIBERALIST AND PEOPLE ARE CATCHING ON TO IT!


Mr. Dorning, I would just like to make a small correction to your article in which you say Clinton had two big wins yesterday. Winning Texas by itself means nothing, and as the caucus count now stands, Barack Obama will really win the delegate count in Texas.


He should attack her on the multitude of issues that she is vulnerable to.

Hillary is still behind in pledged delegates and popular votes. And, the Super Delegates know now that supporting her will be career suicide once the damage to the DNC and Democratic party results from such a measure. Obama needs to realize that he can't play nice and be the gentleman this time. He's got to come out swinging and beat her like a rented mule every round until the end of this fight. She's not going to just roll up and go away when there are so many Rove-esque tricks left to play.

Face it, she's not as pure as the driven snow unless Satan is doing the driving. For all her casting of aspersion on Obama's legitimacy and fitness to hold the Office, she has proven through the years to be so much more corrupt than he is. So, let's shove a cork in her pretense of victimization, seeing as how she's enjoyed the luxury of preventing her own vetting for the sake of character preservation.

Start with her campaign improprieties. She's had a few , significant trouble accounting from them all, and a bigger problem keeping up with all the lies she's been telling to account for the money.

Then, since she's laying claim to Bill's success in a co-Presidency, along with reminders that she as actively advocated NAFTA as the current Bush Administration, bring up that she and Bill actively fueled the Iran - Contra coffers from an airfield in Mena, Arkansas.

Remind her that when it came time to place all their assets in blind trust, Vince Foster was having a considerable amount of trouble reconciling the Clintons' claim of poverty to their real assets.

Also note that Hillary's fingerprints were found on key evidence connected to Vince Foster's death.

You might want to inform the selfrighteous one that Obama's connection to Tony Rezko pales in comparison to her Whitewater scandal. We're talking bank scams, drug cartels, Norriega, Capcom, BCCI, media intimidation, and the funding of death squad training in cahoots with Poppy41, whom Bill42 conveniently exonerated of any wrongdoing just by virtue of never investigating Iran-Contra.

I think the only reason Hillary absolutely has to win is to keep America from prosecuting Bush and Cheney, who, even after they have left office, can summarily be impeached, arrested, PUBLICLY PERP-WALKED, brought to trial, found guilty, and sentenced to life in prison for the more than 900 lies they told us to attack Iraq with her blessing.


Erick,

First of all Obama has been in the senate for three year, this one being his fourth, just two years less then senator Clinton. She has far less legislative experience than Senator Obama, He was in the Illinois state legislature. He has over 20 years of political experience. The only type of experience she has is rubbing elbows with the same washington politicians that have put us in the predicament that we are in now in. So if that is what you want running the country then please keep pushing the lies that he hasn't won any big States (Illinois, Washington, Washington D.C and many more). The lies about senator Obama are out ragous to me. She is the one that has lost 12 of the last 15 states not him. She might have won one Tuesday but she did not gain any delegates. This is what has happened almost evertime she wins. Even when she wins she can't WIN.


Hallo Mr. Obama, Hillary has thrown the "kitchen sink" to you, as your campaign calls it, and you have nothing to show for it, except Vermont, obfuscation and lots of denials and dodgings which finally caught you (with your "glass jaws") scurrying and whimpering to the corner!

You could have delivered the knock out blow! but you did not do so, so stop whining!

I expect my COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF to be HONEST, DECISIVE, TENACIOUS, BRAVE , UNCOMPROMISING with THE TRUTH and RELIABLE! Traits that YOU sorely lack, the last time I look, even with your TEFLON vest on!

HILARY HAS MORE COJONES/CHUTZPAH THAN YOU!


I GUESS OBAMA'S BRAND OF "BEING ABOVE THE FRAY" ONLY APPLIES WHEN HE IS WINNING.

HILLARY OUT WITH YOUR TAXES! AND WHILE YOU'RE AND GIVE A LOLLIPOP, TO BOOT, TO OUR ASPIRING COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF-OBAMA-SAN!


We want the Rezko information. This guy comes to Harvard to recruit you and you talk now as if he is a casual acquaintance?

GIVE ME A BREAK! FESS UP:IT'S GOING TO COME OUT BEFORE THE ELECTION!


24% of the "democrats" who voted in the Texas primary were Limbaugh repulsvicans who gave Billary a six week stay of execution. This to bleed Democratic money and buy more weeks of party dividing negative sink throwing. Let's see those tax returns. Other than givng false hope to over 50 low income women there seems to be no justification for keeping this going.


Remember Hillary haters and Obama cult followers,
It takes 2025 delegates to win the Democratic nomination. At this point NIETHER candidate can reach that. PERIOD. Not who has more. Thats where the superdelegates come into play, which Hillary has most in her back pocket. It ain't over til the Fat lady sings, and I don't see Oprah in sight.

Posted by: Ed Chicago | March 5, 2008 5:37 PM

Your right Ed, that dirty pool playing sea hag has plenty of dirty tricks up her skirt. I wouldn't put stealing an election past her given her conduct the last three or four weeks.


The Clintons will never make this easy-- it will always be some kind of scandal, some kind of lie, some kind of rule bent to breaking.

Tax returns should take about, I don't know, 3 minutes to release. As should the donor list at the Library.

Maybe Bill made money on cattle futures?


When asked about her tax returns by Tim Russert, HRC's body language spoke volumes. She was clearly not comfortable about discussing her personal finances and it was a relevant question due to her loaning her campaign 5 million. One could argue that her poorly managed campaign would have been finished weeks ago without that kick start from the Clinton bank account. If she can't supervise her own campaign, why should anyone trust her with our tax money?


How many times does Obama need to say he did no favors for Rezko?

How many times?

No really, how many?

"Infinity" is not an answer.


You're kidding, right? That is your big come back. She legally does not have to show you her tax returns. If you saw the Clinton’s tax returns, what it would prove is that as a couple they can make more money than you. Shouldn't we have someone in power that knows how to make money and hire a good CPA firm to do her return? I am a CPA. It is the job of a CPA to know the tax law, apply it to your client’s return, and to advice your client on how to reduce your tax by making certain investments. If your CPA does not do that for you then she or he is not doing their job. Obama, did you not hire a competent financial advisor or CPA? It appears as if Hillary would be able to choose more qualified cabinet members than you would. Seriously, Obama you are actually thinking of calling Hillary out for hiring a CPA to do their job? As for the time it would take Hillary to go over her return it would be extensive. I’m sure her return is more complicated than most. Even simple returns most clients don’t understand. They take it on faith that their CPA did it correctly. If the CPA missed income or took deductions that they shouldn’t have, the IRS would contact the CPA for it to be corrected and for additional payment to be made. Since the IRS didn’t kick back the Clinton tax return that obviously must not have happened. Hillary Clinton is accurate in stating that it would take time to go over her tax return before revealing it. Last time I checked she was busy running a presidential campaign against you!! To reiterate she is not the person who put the return together, their CPA did. Let me state again, anyone that would hold it against her for being able to make more money compared to you is a knuckle head; that is one of the many reasons to vote for her over you! As for charity, President Bill Clinton, has raised more money for charity than any other past president. Bill and Hillary have done more to help charitable causes than you or your wife. Please give this country a break and do what is best for our country; vote for Hillary Clinton. As for the inspiring thing, if I wanted a cheerleader for president, I'd vote for just that. Hillary inspires confidence of change; she has actually enacted positive change her entire career. Obama, you have given us words, but not one example of positive change that you were personally responsible for bringing to our state or country. Unfortunately, although nice of you to have done, being a community organizer doesn't come close to the positive change this country is calling for in a president. It needs to be large scale experience. Voting for you over Hillary would be similar to hiring the intern as opposed to the Chief Financial Officer to be Chief Executive Officer.


Well, the cat's out of the bag, Obama isn't really what he wants people to believe he is, a clean fighting, upstanding agent of change. He's just another version of the tired, cheap-shot flim flam politician who will resort to below the belt statements like all the rest of 'them'. Problem is, he's arming and reinforcing the Republican campaign.

If Obama is the candidate he claims to be, he'll fight hard on issues and lay out his plans concerning major issues. If he loses, he's an honorable campaigner with a good shot at the White House later. If he plays the dirt bag game, then he's nothing more than a Limbaugh in liberal attire.


Senator: shame on you for your endorsement of Cook County Treasurer Todd Stroger. Clean up the world tomorrow. First clean up your hometown.

Wall Street Journal
"Second City No More"
March 5, 2008; Page A16

Over the weekend, Chicago lifted itself to the top of a tax dishonor roll: The city's cumulative sales-tax rate is now the steepest of any major metropolitan area in America, at 10.25%. That blows past the former valedictorian, Memphis (9.25%), as well as New Orleans (9%), Denver (8.6%), and even New York and Los Angeles. Congratulations.

After five months of budget skirmishing, the Cook County Board of Commissioners approved the new sales tax, to 1.75% from .75%, by a single vote. That's on top of Illinois's 6.25%, municipal Chicago's 1.25%, and a 1% transportation sales tax for Cook and the collar counties that takes effect later this year.

This is only the latest in a succession of Chicago tax increases: a November 2007 "fee increase" of some $270 million, a January 2008 real estate tax totaling $530 million, not to mention Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich's $717 million in proposed tax increases statewide. Supposedly the deal -- Board President Todd Stroger was pushing for an increase twice as high -- will reduce the county's $234 million deficit.

Not so coincidentally, the $426 million that the county optimistically expects to collect each year will also fund somewhere between 700 or 800 new patronage jobs, and maybe more, which were lobbied for by the public-employees unions. A scathing report from a federal court monitor, released Friday, depicts rampant abuse in county hiring practices. Laurence Msall, president of the nonpartisan Chicago Civic Federation, argues that the county already spends its $3 billion budget irresponsibly, pointing to more than $100 million in possible reforms.

Mr. Msall notes dryly that the county is "not only refusing to tighten its belt, it's acting as if it doesn't have to wear a belt." Then again, it'd be business as unusual if patronage were somehow extracted from Chicago's machine politics. Too bad for the city's actual businesses and residents.


Enough of the tired REZKO mess. At least Senator Obama isn't guilty of invading a country and having the BLOOD of 1000s on his hands and he's not advocating staying in Iraq (financed by borrowed money from CHINA) AND HIS wife WASN'T impeached!!! If you people want someone absolutely PERFECT, I don't think Jesus is in the running...and I mean that with all respect.


Can anybody tell me what wrongdoing Obama is accused of with regard to Rezko?

That's right. There is no proof of wrongdoing, no evidence of wrongdoing, not even any allegations of wrongdoing. The Chicago media have been sniffing around this story for months, and there is nothing there.

The non-disclosure of Hillary's tax returns, on the other hand, is very specific and very real.


In Ohio, 11% of Hillary votes came from Republicans voting in the Democratic Primary. How many Republicans do think have posted comments on this very message board? Wake up people... if they aren't for us, they're against us... and that means nominating Hillary.


It just came out on the WGN Chicago news that Senator Obama is going to start "playing hardball" with Senator Clinton and will be addressing all of the allegations re Rezko, etc. and also "the experience factor".


How on earth is it nasty or negative to ask someone running for office to release their financial records, when ALL other candidates did so months ago, even some who are no longer running?

Why does Hillary deserve special treatment?


"How many times does Obama need to say he did no favors for Rezko?"

Error in fact. We know Obama wrote a letter to get an internship for one of Rezko's relatives. Obama needs to give an answer that's not a lie, first. I realize that's hard for him with the lobbyists working for his campaign and the "I wouldn't know what Rezko looked like" when they both toured his new house together in 2006. Get your story straight, first, Obama.


"We know Obama wrote a letter to get an internship for one of Rezko's relatives."

And that's what passes for scandalous nepotism these days? Gee whiz, people.


Hillary's too Busy? That should get the lame excuse of the year award. If she can't handle a simple thing like disclosing her personal tax return - what makes anyone think she can manage the economy? The national debt? Or even any kind of budget that needs simple oversight?


I AGREE THAT THE CLINTONS SHOULD NOT RELEASE ANY TAX FORMS UNTIL APRIL 15 BECAUSE IT WILL JUST GIVE THE MEDIA SOMETHING ELSE TO TALK ABOUT THIS WAY WHEN THEY ARE RIPING HER APART IT GIVES THE SPOT LIGHT ON OBAMA AND I THINK HE ALSO SHOULD DO SOME EXPLAINING ABOUT HIS PASS WITH REZKO AND HIS CAMPAIN MANGER NANCY PRITZER WITH HER BANK SCANDEL IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ALL THE MEDIA IS TO BUSY WORRING ABOUT HILLARY AND NOT LETTING TO COUNTRY KNOW ABOUT HIM ALSO WHAT ABOUT LARRY SINCLAIR OH THATS RIGHT HE CANT COME FOWARD BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND HE WAS THREATNED HE ALSO SAID HE NEVER TOOK MONEY FROM LOBBYIST IF YOU LOOK ON THE INTERNET WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR SENTOR IT SHOWS THAT HE TOOK FROM EVERYBODY HE COULD TO GET WHERE HE IS AT SO HOE IS HIS WORD TO BE TAKEN AS THE TRUTH ALL HE IS DOING IS COLLECTING THE YOUNG PEOPLE HAVING THEM BELIVEING THAT HE WILL DO SO MUCH FOR THEM IF HILLERY LOSES IT WILL NOT BE BECAUSE OF HER EXPERIANCE IT WILL BE BECAUSE THE MEDIA LIKE MSNBC CNN AND FOXNEWS AND ALL OF THERE NEGTIVE REMARKS ABOUT HER IF SHE HAD SO MUCH TO HIDE IN HER TAXS HOW DID SHE EVERY GET TO BE SENTOR I LIVE IN NJ AND IAM A DEM AFTER I HEARD ALL THE NASTEY REMARKS THAT BILL BRADLY SAID YESTERDAY ABOUT HER IF HE EVERY RAN FOR SENTOR I WOULD CHANGE TO REP AND ALSO IF HE WINS I WILL CHANGE TO REP OR VETO FOR NADER


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