by Mark Silva
Sen. Barack Obama is outspending Sen. Hillary Clinton by about three-to-one in Pennsylvania’s television campaign, an independent analsyst says – a sign that, even if Obama cannot overcome Clinton’s apparent advantage in the April 22 primary there, Obama plans to make Clinton pay for the fight.
“He has dropped a couple million bucks in his first week on the air there,’’ says Evan Tracey, chief operating officer for Campaign Media Analysis, a TNS company, an independent analyst of campaign media advertising. “If you judged it against Clinton’s, in a basketball game, it would be a rout.’’
The Obama campaign is spending about $150,000 a day now on TV advertising in Pennsylvania, Tracey said in an interview with the Tribune today – compared with about $50,000 for the Clinton camp.
Since Obama turned on his TV campaign in the Keystone State on the 21st, Tracey said, he has spent about $2 million. Since Clinton started her ads there on the 25th, she has spent about $440,000.
“Part of it is putting his fundraising advantage to work,’’ Tracey said. “If he spends a lot there, she has to spend a lot to keep up with him…. He is buying at high levels, a strategy to bring her into a war of attrition she can’t afford.''
“Srategically there is no downside to it,’’ Tracey said. Obama “is not going to burn through his cash… He floods the state with a couple weeks of ads… If he doesn’t see any noticeable tick in the polls he might pull back….. But any dollar she spends in Pennsyvlania is a dollar she can’t spend in Indiana or North carolian…. Tactically, you are forcing her to get into a fight.’’
With a half-dozen media markets in Pennsylvania, the biggest and costliest are Philadelphia’s and Pittsburgh’s.
By one media account, Obama is purchasing close to 2,000 “gross ratings points’’ of advertising in these markets – enough for the typical viewer to see an an ad 20 times during a cycle of ads. But the quality of those points is also critical – with news programs and prime-time TV costing more money.
Obama has bought a lot of prime-time TV – putting close to 40 percent of his money into it, according to Tracey. That’s a good way to “expand your coalition,’’ he notes.







Comments
Yes, but in his ad he LIED again.Regarding Pastor Wright and Obama where he denied being present when pastor made his headline-making sermons. I read where Jim Davis a reporter for NewsMaxx magazine says "he saw the would-be President at one of them last July 22, when the pastor blamed the "white arrogance" of America for the world's suffering and more bs.
Posted by: Sd | March 31, 2008 4:17 PM
I donated to Obama's campaign. I wish I could demand a refund after the Wright's comment about America.
Posted by: ken | March 31, 2008 4:22 PM
Sorry Ken and Sd, I have to disagree with you. My Dad has said some pretty horrible stuff, but that doesn't disqualify my from doing my job. Us white people need to understand where this Wright stuff comes from. The dude was raised in a world where blacks couldn't enter the front of restaurants, weren't allowed in movie theaters, were lynched, etc. I can understand his anger. Take a breath!
Posted by: Alex | March 31, 2008 4:27 PM
Sd, the NewsMaxx claim was retracted because Obama was in Miami that day. Get your facts straight and stop spreading LIES (as you put it in caps).
Posted by: Tom J | March 31, 2008 4:30 PM
Amen Alex! Oh and I would like to add that Obama is not responsible for what his associate said. Just imagine if we were held accountable for what anybody associated to us has said or done. Let's try not to be hypocrites here :) He is a popular guy with so many friends so how is he to manage them all.
Posted by: LSU for Obama | March 31, 2008 4:33 PM
If I could, I would donate $100 dollars today to Obama, just to spite the racist bigots who keep injecting Wright into discussions of the Democratic primary. I suspect there are many like me which is why Obama has maintained his lead despite the racism.
Posted by: Jake | March 31, 2008 4:35 PM
Obama has to spend the money on ads etc as he is far behind in Penn
Clinton doesnt have to spend as much to gain recognition in the state
Why should she drop a load of money when she doesnt need to?
I call it smart on her part and dumb on Obamas as he wont win the state.
let him go for it most un decideds decided how they felt about his run awhile back so let him go
It is most likely that with the politico articles this morning he will again suffer a set back
Posted by: Betty | March 31, 2008 4:38 PM
We all need to know where this Wright comment comes from. I still think we have the best chance with Mr. Obama. If we ended up to be other two, it is repeating same trick and same play. We would like to see something new and something we can truly related to.
Posted by: kessho | March 31, 2008 4:39 PM
Hey tom don't get so defensive. I only said what I read. Funny I haven't heard they retracted the story..or was it you that retracted the story. Show me where they did then I'll believe you.
Posted by: sd | March 31, 2008 4:39 PM
FACT CHECK:
If you are a Citizen of X-WORLD LEADER (USA), Understand your needs and VOTE.
If you are COLOR Maniac in Cowboy dressing, Please VOTE McS(h)ame.
Chill out. We are in 21st century. Many of our bosses are COLOR, other races etc etc.
Posted by: kg | March 31, 2008 4:46 PM
Sorry "Sd", either you are a plant or misinformed. Tom J is right; this particular Newsmax claim has been debunked, even Billy Kristol (NYT) had to apologize...I hope issues determine this election vs McCain, instead of jingoism.
Posted by: BW | March 31, 2008 4:50 PM
Thanks for setting them straight tomj. Although I don't agree with the statements of Wright, I can understand his point of view. I am african american and a lot of my older family members do in some ways feel that way. They don't hate America, they just have some unresolved resentment from things that they experienced. I don't belived that Obama should be blamed for his former pastors personal views.
Posted by: janelle | March 31, 2008 4:50 PM
Ken, are you voting for Write or Obama?
As for SD's claim he lied... sniper fire in Bosnia, anyone?
Posted by: xeyda | March 31, 2008 4:57 PM
OBAMA LIES IN PENNSYLVANIA AD
From NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan
GREENBURG, Pa. -- The Clinton campaign today accused the Obama campaign of "false advertising," claiming that a recent ad Obama released in Pennsylvania was disngenous because Obama has been the recipient of more than $200,000 from the oil and gas industry.
In the ad, Obama says, "I'm Barack Obama, and I don't take money from oil companies or lobbyists, and I won't let them block change any more."
Obama has taken $213,884 from the oil and gas industry as of Feb. 29th, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Sen. Hillary Clinton has taken $306,813 in that same period.
Two of Obama's campaign bundlers are also CEOs for oil and gas companies, per a list released on his campaign Web site.
Robert Cavnar, listed as a bundler who has raised between $50,000 to $100,000 for the campaign, is the chairman and CEO of Mission Resources Corp., a Houston-based firm. George Kaiser, also listed in the same $50,000 to $100,000 category, is the CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Company.
"It's unfortunate that Senator Obama is using false advertising to explain why he can be trusted to do something about energy prices," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said. "Senator Obama says he doesn't take campaign contributions from oil companies but the reality is that Exxon, Shell, and others are among his donors."
http://tinyurl.com/2on6dr
Posted by: Fred | March 31, 2008 5:00 PM
SD-
I'm afraid you're on the incorrect side of this one. You should get your story straight and maybe refrain from posting comments on news articles.
Posted by: Jeffrey S | March 31, 2008 5:02 PM
OBAMA LIES IN PENNSYLVANIA AD
From NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan
http://tinyurl.com/2on6dr
Posted by: hinnis | March 31, 2008 5:03 PM
Two years after Bill Clinton cleaned up the first Bush, democrats lost Congress. Then they lost the presidency. Hillary is not half the negotiator as Bill but twice the fighter. The more she succeeds at first in “cleaning up after the 2nd Bush,” the harder the conservative pendulum will swing against her blocking future change.
Barrack's 800+ bills from 8 years in the Illinois senate are far more extensive than Hillary's entire elected record. Barrack is the ONLY candidate to pass Healthcare reform.
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.
Here is Hillary's entire record from six years in the US Senate from the Library-of-Congress website http://thomas.loc.gov
1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
Barrack gets more done than Hillary BECAUSE he never gives up a chance to work with his opponents to move the ball in the general direction of our democratic goals. You see it in the way he has setup Healthcare, talking with enemies, his Iraq stance, NAFTA, on and on. Hilary's “shoot-for-the-moon” solutions kill pretty good ones without every getting implemented themselves. And then she cannot reach compromise because she has burned her bridges. Now is the time for a top notch negotiator, sales-person, uniter and visionary.
Posted by: Young Atheart | March 31, 2008 5:03 PM
"Ken" and "Sid" sound like Republicans in sheeps' clothing. NewsMaxx is just as partisan and biased a source of "fake news" as Fox, and Ken's "I donated to Obama and want a refund" sounds like a fib. If repeating last month's Fox News and Rush Limbaugh Wright non-story over and over and over again is the only distraction you've got from the real issues in this election, that's a pretty sad state of affairs.
Posted by: chrisr | March 31, 2008 5:04 PM
This applies to caucuses anywhere in the United States; the following I wrote in response to an editorial in a San Antonio, Texas newspaper:
R. G. Ratcliffe’s article on March 31, 2008 Dem conventions favor Obama was right on target, at least in title; the truth is, all demographic segments of the caucus system is biased towards Obama and biased against Clinton. Obama has a much greater percent of the urban voters – many urban voters had to travel only a few miles to get to their voting precinct and the corresponding regional convention. Rural voters in many cases, were required to travel fifty miles or more to attend their designated caucuses, some over 120 miles to attend their regional convention (which discouraged voters). Is this fair, is this just? Young voters, another demographic group heavily favoring Obama, are usually able bodied and can stand in line for five hours or more , and are able to sit in a semi-cushioned seat for five hours or more. Young voters take fewer medications, have fewer family (children in particular) responsibilities, and can go without eating for twelve hours or more )discouraging Clinton supporters). Affluent voters are more readily able to miss an entire days work without that days pay and are also more readily able to pay a babysitter for an extra twelve to fourteen hour shift Lower income cannot miss work/pay this (discouraging Clinton voters). Men also slightly favor Obama over Clinton, and women are more often than not the care giver for the children of the family and are less able to stay away from responsibilities for twelve to fourteen grueling hours (discouraging once again Clinton support).
This Ratcliffe article Dem conventions favor Obama failed to mention the real reasons Obama has the lead in the caucus counts. The true reason is that the caucus system here in Texas and around the country favors specific demographic groups over others and therefore is not as representative of the people of Texas, and is less Democratic than the more traditional primary system, where all registered voters are able to cast their vote during a twelve to fourteen hour window with a wait usually a half hour or so, at their (all voters)convenience.
Let us all remember, Hillary Clinton won the Texas popular vote during the March 4 primary by nearly 100,000 (98,223) votes and is the true winner of the Texas primary. It appears now however, Obama may gain a slight delegate lead or least split the Texas delegates with Clinton. This is democracy in action? This is representative of the people?
Another issue addressed in the Ratcliffe article states that Hector Nieto, Democratic Party spokesman stated “overall, (the conventions) went pretty well…it was democracy in action.” As a Precinct 4044 Delegate for the 25th Senatorial District I can tell you that this was not the case. The convention held at the San Antonio Municipal Auditorium was a nightmare, where chaos and confusion reigned during every aspect of the supposed “democratic process”. I challenge the Democrats of Texas(and the country) to do away with this ridiculous caucus system -it makes no sense, and needs to be changed to a primary-only system that is more representative of the people of Texas (and nation) and is a more democratic way to choose the Democratic Candidate for President of the United States.
William Hale
San Antonio
Posted by: William Hale | March 31, 2008 5:05 PM
The whole sad thing about the wright comments... If you actually listended to the whole transcript of the sermon and put it into the perspective of an old man seeing the times changing for the worse...
I actually hate to say it I agree with his sentiment. With all the corrupt worthless polititians we keep electing to represent us the world thinks we are a big F'ing joke. He's right to be angry. I know for certian I am angry ass heck with the crap that goes on in this country. High crime rates, poverty, lack of community, lack of respect, no responsibility... the list goes on and on. This is sad times we live in and this beacon of hope, the light in the darkness becomes available and a bunch of racist whites put him down. I am litterally at the point I am tired of being considered white and am inches from registering myself with my native american heritage so I can get away form you bigots.
Posted by: Tim | March 31, 2008 5:09 PM
Yeah sd. Obama was in Miami on the day someone "supposedly" saw him at the church service. There was a video on the net showing him giving a speech. It may be on youtube but I saw it on yahoo.
Posted by: janelle | March 31, 2008 5:11 PM
Obama is as dirty as they come. Now he wants to BUY the presidency with dirty money.
Posted by: Ms.Piff | March 31, 2008 5:11 PM
OBAMA WILL NOT COOPERATE IN RELEASING 8 YEARS OF HIS STATE SENATE RECORDS
Judicial Watch: Obama ‘intended to leave no paper trail’
By Klaus Marre
Posted: 03/26/08 01:01 PM [ET]
The president of a prominent watchdog group said Wednesday that he believes Democratic presidential frontrunner Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) “intended to leave no paper trail” during his time in the Illinois Senate.
Judicial Watch, which has been seeking access to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) records from her time in the White House, argued Wednesday that the Illinois senator, who has criticized the former first lady for a lack of openness, has his own “records problem.”
“The more we learn about the Illinois Senator, the more obvious it becomes that he is anything but the ethically upright outsider he purports to be,” said Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch.
The group rose to prominence when it repeatedly took on former President Bill Clinton during his time in office. It also sought records from the Bush administration regarding Vice President Dick Cheney’s energy task force.
In a statement, Fitton noted that his group has sought access to Obama’s records as a state senator and questioned whether the presidential candidate has been forthcoming with regard to what happened to those documents.
He said that “nobody knows where they are, if they exist at all” and claimed that “Obama’s story keeps changing.”
Obama calls Rendell with threat about election
http://tinyurl.com/ywfywe
Posted by: Fred | March 31, 2008 5:15 PM
OBAMA: DIRTY POLITICIAN FROM THE START: Chicago Sun-Times—A close examination of Obama’s first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: Obama, who runs on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless, first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. Alice Palmer, friend and mentor to Obama, served the district in the Illinois Senate for much of the 1990s. Decades earlier, she was a community organizer in the area when Obama was growing up in Hawaii. She risked her safe seat to run for Congress and touted Obama as a suitable successor. But when Palmer lost the congressional race, her supporters asked Obama to fold his campaign so she could easily retain her state Senate seat. Obama not only refused to step aside for the woman who was his friend and had recommended him for the seat, he filed challenges that nullified Palmer’s hastily gathered nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw. Had Palmer survived the petition challenge, Obama would have faced the daunting task of taking on an incumbent senator. “He wondered if we should knock everybody off the ballot. How would that look?” said Ronald Davis, the paid Obama campaign consultant whom Obama referred to as his “guru of petitions.” Davis filed objections to all four of Obama’s Democratic rivals at the candidate’s behest. All other candidates were disposed of by Obama’s challenges. He then went on to win the election.
http://tinyurl.com/2zwwte
Posted by: Fred | March 31, 2008 5:16 PM
Believe it or not, there are people who really know nothing about Obama. Until "news" makes it to the water cooler, they don't hear it. So Obama has to advertise heavily just so folks have some idea who he is. HRC has had 15 years to get her name and face out there.
What is significant is not that Obama must spend a lot to introduce himself to voters, it's that by doing so he invariably pulls votes away from Clinton. As people get to make a fair comparison, they side with Obama.
Posted by: David | March 31, 2008 5:24 PM
We have moved past the pastor. Obama leads in super-delegates 6-1 since super tuesday. Game Over
Posted by: mp | March 31, 2008 5:25 PM
Below is a couple of videos of the full Wright comments. If someone can please point to the incorrect, unpatriotic, or racist parts (at what time in the speech they occure, and how they are incorrect) of these speeches, I would be very appreciative.
http://blogs.tampabay.com/media/2008/03/rev-jeremiah-wr.html
Posted by: Paul M. | March 31, 2008 5:26 PM
He is campaigning for all of us - it is so new, or it has been so long since you've seen it, that you do not recognise it - Come together, come together right now...
Posted by: Lynident | March 31, 2008 5:30 PM
He is campaigning for all of us - it is so new, or it has been so long since you've seen it, that you do not recognise it - Come together, come together right now...Wonder why so many are now registering as Democrats - it is the Republicans who would rather have McBush try to win against Hillary...Yes We Can!
Posted by: Lynident | March 31, 2008 5:33 PM
The person posting links to "TinyURL.com" is likely up to no good. There is a reason it is banned by MySpace and others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TinyURL
Clicking on one of the TinyURL links is a good way to give your computer something really nasty.
Posted by: Dalton | March 31, 2008 5:42 PM
Read Chapter 14 of Obamas Book Dreams of my father, He says he knew WRITE was what he was from day one Contervercial. Write tells him he even turns off other Black Preachers.
Obama says words count and he calls write his morale compass.
People He has lied since day one read the BOOK!!!
Obama wrote it.
Posted by: Read all Voters | March 31, 2008 5:50 PM
Barrack's 800+ bills from 8 years in the Illinois senate are far more extensive than Hillary's entire elected record. Barrack is the ONLY candidate to pass Healthcare reform.
What a joke I live in Illinois and he voted Pres on most votes and wont even come to Event by voters when truly needed as the works at the MAYTAG factory.
Posted by: Voted | March 31, 2008 5:54 PM
Just remember to VOTE after all of this back and forth trash talking. The playgounds are alive! The blogger gangs are out and everywhere! After the election is over, let's get back to working on eduction, manufacturing competitiveness, rebuilding our roads, alternative energy, and winning the "real cold war" the one for jobs and economic supremacy which seems to be going to our former communist enemies.
Posted by: Practial_Econ | March 31, 2008 5:56 PM
Clinton's close ties (HER HUSBAND) to liars and cheats makes her someone I could never vote for.
Her support for Bill makes it obvious she supports lying and cheating.
She should denouce Bill and remove him from her campaign. She must divorce him if she expects to go on!
I believe she should also do a major speech on honesty in America.
I wish we could do a re-do of the first Clinton's years - obviously almost anyone could have done a better job than him!
Posted by: Loyal Democrat | March 31, 2008 5:58 PM
The perfect candidate for TODAY! Barack Obama
The media darling: cute slogans and no substance.
The perfect marriage of new media and a masked persona - WHO IS OBAMA?
NEW POLITICS? HA!
Just the new media version of Ronald Regan. BARACK the UNITER? YEA, like Bush? or Reagan? (his idol) The TRUTH is Barack's campaign has not united DEMOCRATS. The attacks on Hillary have been relentless - but subtle, indirect, and personal. NEW POLITICS? HA! What do you expect from a personality candidate? Some of the worst leaders in history have been charismatic and good talkers. YEA - Barack is the new and improved politician TODAY's media is selling.
DON'T BUY IT (and hope) - Check the issues and what he has done. HILLARY CLINITON's plans for America address the problems of TODAY. This is the kind of PRESIDENT we need. A real president on the issues - not the new and improved media candidate.
Hillary Clinton is the CHOICE for AMERICA.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Posted by: MO | March 31, 2008 5:59 PM
Obama is deceptively eloquent. Unfortunately, I think people fall for that eloquence because it's "refreshing" in a presidential candidate--but it saddens me to see people blinded by it. Be careful about charisma and eloquence---it can hide a multitude of sins and distract from the facts and the ability to sort substance from rhetoric. Obama was wishy-washy on Wright and is historically waffly on his views in general. Not something we need in the highest office of this nation.
Posted by: Angie | March 31, 2008 6:00 PM
OBAMA IS THE NEXT POTUS
get with it
Posted by: criss | March 31, 2008 6:00 PM
Ms. Piff: How dare you call my money dirty? The overwhelming majority of Obama's campaign funds come from over a million Americans like me. Every time you say something like that you are insulting a lot of people who care about our country enough to invest in a campaign we have researched thoroughly and decided to invest in. If you don't like Obama, don't contribute to his campaign, but there's no need to insult those of us who do.
Posted by: DoTheMath | March 31, 2008 6:02 PM
All the press and commentators are damning Rev
Wright's based on using only snippets of his comments.
Suppose they quoted his entire comment "God Damn
America for killing innocent children" then they would
also have to admit that many Right to Life Preachers
have been damning America for abortion by equating
abortion with killing children. All the press, radio,
TV and politicians use only "God Damn America" as part
of their criticism. Of course no one in the
establishment wants to admit that the US has been
killing many many innocent children in its wars. After
all as Madeline Allbright, when informed that US and
British sanctions on Iraq had led to the death of
500,000 children was pleased to say" that is a price
we are willing to pay" not thinking about what that
said about the attitude of America to the world.
America's ally Israel routinely kills innocent
Palestinian children and while the US justly condemns
the killing of Israeli children, many of the Israeli's
who are killed are soldiers engaged in protecting
illegal settlers in the West Bank and invading Gaza, I
have never heard any US politician or commentator
expressing a word of sympathy for the ten fold killing
of Palestinians, especially women and children,
and we only know about this here because of BBC news
and Israeli human rights groups such as B'TSELEM, the
israeli Center for human rights in the occupied
territories, the brave Israeli soldiers who would
rather go to prison than serve in the occupied
territories, and the group Rabbi's for Human rights,
also writers like Amira Haas and Gideon Levy in the
Israeli paper Haaretz.
I can respond similarly on every statement that Rev
Wright made in his sermon, e.g.. re Hiroshima and
Nagasaki's atomic bomb civilian slaughter, how the
settlers ethnically cleansed the native American
population and violated every treaty made with them,
US sponsorship and funding of Israeli occupation and
expansion and humiliation of Palestinians. Truth
matters but truth sometimes hurts, that America is
addicted to violence and wars in pursuit of its
economic agenda but always cloaks its wars as bringing
democracy and freedom, But the record shows [ see
OVERTHROW--from Haawai to IRAQ, by Stephen Kinzer, The
Secret History of the CIA by Joseph Trento and other
related books].
I imagine I won't hear any of the above perspective on
the truths in Rev Wright's sermon since in the US
these are "unspeakable truths". But the rest of world
is not fooled. In his Democracy in America, published
in the 19th century, Alexis De Tocqueville already
noticed this touchiness of Americans re criticism by
both foreigners and by its own citizens' once someone
has brainwashed the majority with the prevailing
dogma.
Posted by: Levine | March 31, 2008 6:02 PM
10 MYTHS AS TO WHY HILLARY SHOULD STAY IN THE RACE
I have noted a number of myths amongst the comments here as to why Hillary should stay in the race. Here are ten enduring, kudzu-like myths, with the debunking they sorely need.
Myth: This race is tied.
No, actually, it's not. Obama has the lead in number of states won, in pledged delegates and in overall delegates. Nothing will happen in the remaining primaries to substantially change that. As to the one thing Hillary does lead in, superdelegates, her quickly shrinking margin is among DNC personnel only. When you look at the elected superdelegates, Congressman, Senators and Governors (i.e. people who actually work with both Obama and Clinton) Obama leads there, too.
Myth: Okay, the popular vote is tied.
There are people who claim that because of the 3% separation, that Obama's lead in the popular vote is a "statistical tie." This is a myth because, when you can actually count things, there's no need of statistics and no such thing as a margin of error. The popular vote is not an estimate based on a sampling, like a poll. Like the general election, there are winners and losers and, so far, Obama is the winner.
Myth: Fine, but what if we count electoral votes? NOW Hillary is ahead!
Not so much. The proportions of electoral votes to population versus delegates to population are pretty comparable. So if you allocated electors proportionally in the same manner that you allocate delegates, Obama is still ahead. If you allocate them on a winner-take-all basis, then that would be the same as allocating the delegates on a winner-take-all basis, so why bring electors into it?
Myth: But if we did do it like the Electoral College, that proves Hillary is more electable than Obama, because of states like California.
This is perhaps the saddest little myth of all. It's ridiculous to suggest that Obama will lose New York and California to McCain because Clinton won them in the primaries. No, come November, those states will join with Obama's Illinois to provide 40% of the electors necessary for him to win.
Myth: Very well, then, Mr. Smarty-Math. But if we counted Michigan and Florida, THEN Hillary would be winning!
Nooo, she wouldn't. The margin would depend on how you allocate the delegates, but Obama would still be ahead. And he'd still be about 100,000 ahead in the popular vote, too, despite not even being on the ballot in Michigan. However, it would enhance Hillary's chances of catching up in the remaining races.
Myth: Ah HA! So Dean is keeping them out just to help Obama! And Obama is keeping them out.
That's two myths, but I'll treat it like one. The only people who can come up with a solution to this problem are the states themselves, to be presented to the Rules and Regulations Committee of the DNC for ratification. It was Rules and Regs, not Howard Dean, who ruled that Florida and Michigan were breaking the rules when they presented their original primary plans. If the two states cannot come up with a plan to reselect delegates, they can try to seat whatever delegates were chosen in the discounted primaries by appealing to the Democratic Convention's Credentialing Committee, which includes many members from Rules and Bylaws.
Myth: If they don't get seated until the convention but a nominee is selected before these poor people get counted then these states are disenfranchised.
There are two ways to debunk this myth: semantically and practically. The first is based on the word "disenfranchised:" these people have not been deprived of their right to vote. Through the actions of their states, their votes don't impact the outcome. Now, you may say that that is specious semantics (Myth: I do say that!) but practically speaking, this is the usual effect of the nominating process, anyway. All of the Republican primaries since McCain clinched the nomination have been meaningless, but those voters are not disenfranchised.
Florida and Michigan tried to become more relevant in the process by breaking the rules. They risked becoming irrelevant instead.
Myth: Well, I say they are disenfranchised, and Hillary Clinton is their champion.
Only when it suits her. Last fall, when the decision was first made to flush 100% of Michigan and Florida delegates, Clinton firmly ratified it. That was because the typical punishment of only 50% representation also kept the candidates from raising money in those states. Figuring that she would wrap up the nomination handily anyway, the clear front-runner agreed with all the other candidates - including Obama - to completely "disenfranchise" those two states.
Myth: Well, never mind 2007. She's doing more now to bring them in.
Not really. Recent stories in the St. Petersburg Times political blog said that 1) the Obama camp has reached out to the Florida Democratic party about a compromise and that 2) the Clinton camp will discuss nothing else but re-votes, which are legally, practically and politically dead.
Myth: Whatever! Hillary can still win! I know she can! She and her 37% positive rating will sweep through the remaining primaries and Michigan and Florida, winning 70% of everything and superdelegates will flock to her banner and Barack Obama will personally nominate her at the Convention and John McCain will give up and George Bush will even quit early so she can take over and... and... and... can I have a glass of water?
Yes, and you should lie down, too.
If you got a good laugh out of this like I did, thank Chip Collis
Posted by: Martha Davidson | March 31, 2008 6:02 PM
Alex and ilk-
So if we found out John McCain had been going to a church for 20 yrs and the pastor was a white supremacist, that would be OK as long as McCain said he did hear anything 'that bad'?
Would an excuse be that he was brought up in a racist neighborhood?
Please-
Posted by: Chris K | March 31, 2008 6:04 PM
To the commenter who said Obama LIED in his ad because he was seen in church at Wright's July 22 sermon: I guess you didn't see the retraction & correction to that statement when news video footage showed Obama at a rallies in Miami on July 21 and 22 during that church service (before campaigning in Florida was withdrawn). How interesting that a person "remembers" seeing Obama "nod his head" as Wright made the statements when in fact Obama was in Miami. News videos are helpful: they show Clinton didn't received sniper fire as she remembers. They show Obama wasn't in church July 22, as someone remembers. Who do you trust?
Posted by: WomanOver50 | March 31, 2008 6:05 PM
William Hale misses the point. The whole complex primary/caucus process is designed to allocate DELEGATES to the Convention. Well informed and organized candidates deployed their resources so as to maximize their delegate wins in each state. Hillary so disparaged Texas that she and her team didn't even know the rules for delegate allocation until very late in the game (she talked about grown men -- presumably her unprepared staffers -- crying at the complexity of the rules). Had she thought she would have to take Texas seriously, she would have done what Obama did early on: mobilize her resources so as to maximize her delegate count. The fact that she LOST TEXAS by 99 to 94 delegates tells us a lot about her overconfidence and inability to adjust. Not leadership qualities I particular admire.
Posted by: Stan Heginbotham | March 31, 2008 6:06 PM
Two years after Bill Clinton cleaned up the first Bush, democrats lost Congress. Then they lost the presidency. Hillary is not half the negotiator as Bill but twice the fighter. The more she succeeds at first in “cleaning up after the 2nd Bush,” the harder the conservative pendulum will swing against her blocking future change.
Barrack's 800+ bills from 8 years in the Illinois senate are far more extensive than Hillary's entire elected record. Barrack is the ONLY candidate to pass Healthcare reform.
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.
Here is Hillary's entire record from six years in the US Senate from the Library-of-Congress website http://thomas.loc.gov
1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
Barrack gets more done than Hillary BECAUSE he never gives up a chance to work with his opponents to move the ball in the general direction of our democratic goals. You see it in the way he has setup Healthcare, talking with enemies, his Iraq stance, NAFTA, on and on. Hilary's “shoot-for-the-moon” solutions kill pretty good ones without every getting implemented themselves. And then she cannot reach compromise because she has burned her bridges. Now is the time for a top notch negotiator, sales-person, uniter and visionary.
Posted by: Young Atheart | March 31, 2008 6:07 PM
Hey Betty!
It's not that Hillary wouldn't like to compete with Obama in advertising in Pennsylvania. She can't do so because her fund-raising for the primary period has been so anemic compared to Obama's. She has accumulated lots of cash for the general campaign from major donors who maxed out their contributions for both the primary and the general elections on the assumption she would be the nominee. But, for the period between now and the convention, she has major debts, very limited cash available for the primaries, and quite limited fundraising potential. Obama, on the other hand, has hundreds of thousands of small donors -- I am one of them -- who have, in the aggregate, given him a strong financial position for spending on advertisements for the primaries.
Posted by: Stan Heginbotham | March 31, 2008 6:15 PM
To William Hale re: Texas Caucus. Yes, Clinton won the Texas primary and popular vote by a slight margin. Obama won caucus by a bigger margin. Obama now Leads Texas with 99 delegates to Clinton's 94. In your derision of the Texas caucus system, you fail to mention 2 important facts: (1) Gary Mauro (Clinton's Texas campaign manager) was chief architect of this quirky system (2) The Texas primary is open to Republicans and independents, so the caucus system is combined with it to "compensate" for the potential skewing of the results by non-democrats. I personally know a number of Republicans who voted for Clinton because they think she's easier for McCain to beat. Rush LImbaugh advised Republicans to do just that on his radio address that week. But those same republicans aren't likely to show up at a public Democratic meeting.
Posted by: Jane | March 31, 2008 6:18 PM
Fred:
Pretty neat that you conveniently omitted the rest of the story. Obama is not lying about not taking money from oil lobbyists:
Just last month, Obama took more than $11,000 from individuals at Exxon-Mobil, per the center. At least 12 of those contributions came from individuals who contributed $250 each, the lowest listed donation. In that same period, Clinton took more than $3,000 from individuals working at Exxon-Mobil.
However, many of those contributions appear to come from workers at the firm not just executives. For example, Patrice McGowan, an Exxon-Mobil shift supervisor, who lives in Joliet, Ill., has donated $982 to Obama as of January. She also has a blog profile on Obama’s campaign Web site.
“I am a single woman who has worked shift work all my life, sometimes never seeing another woman on the job for weeks,” her profile reads, in part.
In a statement today, Obama spokesman Bill Burton, reiterated that Obama doesn't take PAC money or money from federal registered lobbyists, and "that includes oil companies and oil lobbyists."
Picking on the energy industry is a standard part of Obama's stump speech, where he harshly criticizes the 2005 energy bill and the Vice President Dick Cheney's efforts in passing it.
"Exxon Mobil reported more than $10 billion in quarterly profits," Obama told a town hall in Greenburg, Pa. today. And then referring to Cheney, he added, "He met with the oil and gas companies 40 times. So is it any wonder than that the energy laws that were written were good for Exxon-Mobil but they are not good for you?"
However, Obama did vote for that bill and has been repeatedly criticized by the Clinton campaign for the vote. Obama has defended that vote saying that despite it being a "flawed bill," it had strong provisions for alternative fuels and was the best deal that could be struck on the issue.
Today, spokeswoman Jen Psaki said the bill, supported by Pennsylvania Congressmen Murtha and Kanjorski "actually raised taxes on oil companies and made the largest investment in renewable energy in our nation's history."
Despite the attacks, Obama doesn't appear to be backing down from his criticism of the energy industry or on special interest influences.
"I don't take PAC money,” he said this evening. “I don't take money from federal registered lobbyists. I don't want those strings attached.”
Posted by: Mark | March 31, 2008 6:21 PM
Wow, the Hillary backers and republicans looking for a Hillary candidacy (that they can beat) are out in full force.
The only problem is that this time...this election....we have all heard enough disinformation and have gotten enough mirror politics by now that it won't work.
Remember that we have been through 2 Bush elections and have dealt with and heard all this before.
Senator Obama is the real deal and anyone who doubts it or him needs only read his books, look at his web site, or listen to him speak. We have had enough of Bush/McCain/Clinton, politics. It is time for a change in our government and in the way that we think of our government.
So you may want to get on board because the time for games and name calling is over. We have a quagmire in Iraq to get out of. An economy to fix. A healthcare system to implement and a nations status and respect to rebuild.
Let's get to work, grow up and get it done.
Posted by: Will | March 31, 2008 6:26 PM
I only saw it once on tv, but that was enough for me to be ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED at that black preacher calling Obama, his mother, father and I think even his WIFE AND KIDS TRASH!!! Whoever (and WHEREVER) THIS CLOWN HAS his SO-CALLED CHURCH THE MEMBERS SHOULD PUT HIM OUT OF BUSINESS, AS THERE'S NO WAY HE COULD BE BONA FIDE!!! He's probably jealous of Senator Obama and probably can't even SPELL the word TRASH!!! That's the heighth of insults...to call someone's deceased parents names!!! What a poor excuse for a human being...let alone a "mimister!!!"
Posted by: Mary Dawson | March 31, 2008 6:35 PM
Still beating the same dead horse (Wright), eh?
Give it up, guys. I know it was your last hope, but it didn't work.
Game's over. Obama won.
Posted by: Larry | March 31, 2008 6:45 PM
"OBAMA SPEAKS"
KEEP THAT FAITH!
KEEP THAT COURAGE!
LIBERTY IS PRICELESS!
BUT JOHN MCCAIN DO YOU MEAN "FAITH" IN THE CONSTITUTION?
DO YOU MEAN FAITH IN "LAWS OF THE LAND"
DO YOU MEAN "FAITH" IN YOUR PARTY OF "LAW BREAKING FELONS ON CNN NIGHTLY"
DO YOU MEAN "FAITH" IN NO JUSTICE WHEN CONGRESS PASSES "INHERENT CONTEMPT"
DID YOU MEAN KEEP THE "FAITH? IN "K" STREET PROJECT AND IT'S REWARDS.
DID YOU MEAN KEEP THE FAITH IN THE CONGRESS AND ITS JUDICIAL BRANCH, PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT, EAVESDROPPING ON THE AVERAGE AMERICAN CITIZEN.
DATAMINING FELLOW AMERICANS FOR POLITICAL AND MONETARY GAINS ONLY.
IS LIBERTY THAT PRICELESS TO "CHEAT" "LIE" "STEAL"
"DETAIN" "RENDER" AND FABRICATE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND GO UNCHECK, OR CONGRESSIONAL CENSORED?
WHAT DOES HE THINK?
WHERE HAS HE BEEN?
DOES AMERICA WALK THE WALK AND TALK THE TALK?
WELL JOHN MCCAIN, DOES IT!
LONG LIVE NANCY PELOSI!
Posted by: Roger Morris | March 31, 2008 6:49 PM
I agree with most of the people here Barack Obama cannot be held accountable for someone elses word or action my dad who is white has went out of his way to be offensive to blacks and I do not hold the same beliefs as him and he was my dad I was influenced by but if I was held accountable for everything he said and did believe me I would also be accused of being a racist which is far from the truth
Posted by: Frank Ross | March 31, 2008 8:17 PM
OBAMA’S RELIGION: WHAT REV. JEREMIAH WRIGHT BELIEVES
News Type: Opinion — Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
us-news, election, obama, clinton, race, wright
dugan49
When Jeremiah Wright got into a spitting contest with right wing TV host Sean Hannity last year, he at one point refused to answer Hannity's badgering questions and kept asking Hannity "Have you read James Cone, what do you know about black theology? Have you read Cone? Have you read Cone?Have you read Cone?"
James Cone is one of he founders, some say the founder, of Black Liberation Theology. Rev. Jeremiah Wright's ministry, his beliefs about America, and about life itself are formed by his attraction to and acceptance of the writings of James Cone.
Let's look at some quotes from James Cone.
____________________
"The time has come for white America to be silent and listen to black people."
"All white men are responsible for white oppression. "
"Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man 'the devil.'"
"Any advice from whites to blacks on how to deal with white oppression is automatically under suspicion as a clever device to further enslavement."
"Black suffering is getting worse, not better. . . . White supremacy is so clever and evasive that we can hardly name it." (2004)
" Jesus Christ is black therefore not because of some cultural or psychological need of black people, but because and only because Christ really enters into our world where the poor were despised and the black are, disclosing that he is with them enduring humiliation and pain and transforming oppressed slaves into liberating servants."
"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him."
"The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy."
"What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. "
Posted by: Fred | March 31, 2008 8:33 PM
A refund after Wright? Get a clue and a life, I assume you saw the 'soundbites' that everyone thought was so anti-american. Does anyone who has a problem with Wright have an clue as to the term 'blowback'??? It was coined by the CIA in the 50s that what we do on foreign soil will come back 10 fold against us. Most americans are completely clueless what our country does on foreign soil. Want the Russian army in your backyard? Though it okay when we do it in the name of patriotism. Listen the the whole speech before your simple mind comes to a close minded conclusion
Posted by: Scott | March 31, 2008 9:27 PM
OBAMA WILL NOT COOPERATE IN RELEASING 8 YEARS OF HIS STATE SENATE RECORDS
Judicial Watch: Obama ‘intended to leave no paper trail’
By Klaus Marre
Posted: 03/26/08 01:01 PM [ET]
The president of a prominent watchdog group said Wednesday that he believes Democratic presidential frontrunner Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) “intended to leave no paper trail” during his time in the Illinois Senate.
Judicial Watch, which has been seeking access to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) records from her time in the White House, argued Wednesday that the Illinois senator, who has criticized the former first lady for a lack of openness, has his own “records problem.”
“The more we learn about the Illinois Senator, the more obvious it becomes that he is anything but the ethically upright outsider he purports to be,” said Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch.
The group rose to prominence when it repeatedly took on former President Bill Clinton during his time in office. It also sought records from the Bush administration regarding Vice President Dick Cheney’s energy task force.
In a statement, Fitton noted that his group has sought access to Obama’s records as a state senator and questioned whether the presidential candidate has been forthcoming with regard to what happened to those documents.
He said that “nobody knows where they are, if they exist at all” and claimed that “Obama’s story keeps changing.”
Posted by: Fred | March 31, 2008 9:32 PM
Barack Obama is not Reverend Wright and he was not present when Wright made the 2 offensive speeches, out of thousands of sermons in 30+ years. I think it's wrong for people to hold Obama accountable for the words of others. Not once has Barack shown anything but a uniting spirit. Judge him on his own. Not through guilt by association. He is a good man and will be a great president for everyone.
Posted by: wanakee | April 1, 2008 1:54 AM
Senator Obama can keep wasting his money on ads in PA all he wants. We see his ads almost nonstop some days and his associations with Wright, Rezko and Ayers is having more of an impact. The Senator himself nullified the impact of Senator Casey's endorsement with his "my daughters should not be punished for a mistake with a baby" comment. Keep up the good work Senator and keep spending that money, our local economy can use it.
Posted by: Bob K | April 1, 2008 2:42 AM
I heard today on Fox News that according to the Balt. Sun, Obama supporters will refuse to vote for Sen. Clinton if she is the nominee... quoting your paper as saying "if she were the last candidate on earth" or something ridiculous like that. I just want to say that the the opposite is also true. Most of my friends are Clinton supporters like me, and we have already made the same decision about Obama. I won't vote for him if "he is the last candidate on earth"... to use the words of your paper. Obama supporters are under the mistaken impression that just because the media is biased towards him (70% of all media coverage is about him), that doesn't make him the better candidate. Thank you.
Posted by: bmwflo | April 1, 2008 3:27 AM
NBC- Aswini Anburajan
GREENBURG, Pa
OBAMA LIES IN PENNSYLVANIA AD
It's unfortunate that Senator Obama is using false advertising to explain why he can be trusted to do something about energy prices. In his ad, Obama says, I'm Barack Obama, and I don't take money from oil companies or lobbyists, and I won't let them block change any more. Obama has been the recipient of more than $220,000 from the oil and gas industry just since as of Feb/08. Two of Obama's campaign bundlers are also CEOs for oil and gas companies, per his campaign Web site? Obama needs to answer to VOTERS about his dealings with one of his largest contributors Exelon, a big nuclear power company that he cut deals behind closed doors protecting them from full disclosure in the nuclear industry. Exxon, Shell, and others are among his biggest donors
Judicial Watch:
By Klaus Marre
Obama ‘intended to leave no paper trail’ OBAMA REFUSES to cooperate in releasing 8 years of his state senate records. One main reason REZKO!
The WashigntonPost Fact Checker
ABCNEWS.COM
Senator Obama CAUGHT LYING about Kennedy Role in Helping His Father
Contrary to Obama's claims in speeches Kennedy family did not provide the funding for a September 1959 airlift of 81 Kenyan students to the United States that included Obama's father. According to historical records and interviews with participants, the Kennedys were approached for support for the program a year later, July 1960. family responded with a $100,000 donation, which went to pay for a second airlift in September 1960.
According to Citizen Wells - March 21, 2008: Obama has a dual citizenship with Kenya. His passport was breached today by inquiring minds because Obama is an anti-Israel, pro-pan-Arabian Islamic-socialist who has ties to Marxist Libyan President Muamar al Gadaffi, and a Syrian tycoon, Antoin Rezko, Saudi Arabian Scheiks and Rezko's "close friend" Nadhami Auchi, the one who gave Obama fundraiser money (and helped to buy his mansion): Iraqi billionaire, global arms dealer, Nadhmi Auchi, was Baathist best friends with Saddam Hussein, and the main financial backer (from funds stolen from Oil for Food Program0 for Saddam's - Iraqi -Saudi oil pipeline, and who stood trial with Saddam Hussein in 1959 for conspiring to assassinate Iraqi President Qasim.
Also marxist Nicaragian President Daniel Ortega is on the front line supporting Obama for the revolution of changes and then there is hard core anti-Israel, pro-Palestine PLO Enforcer Rashid Khalid, (Obama was on Kalidi's Woods Fund. Obama was a memb er of the Woods Fund with communist domestic terrorist Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground who bombed the Pentagon, the U.S. Capitol among other things and their organization raised money for anti-Israel programs, and also AAAN, for Arabs and then there is especially Kenya - where in August 2007, Obama went to Kenya to support his E. Germany communist educated cousin Raila Odinga for Kenyan Presidential election, who claims coincidentally to also be a Christian who signed NAMLEF and other pacts wutg radical muslims who set churches filled with Christians on fire, and macheted them in the streets, causing a political and religious mini-civil war over the MUO.
all of Obama's mentors, buddies, political affiliations, organizational memberships and all of his hard core militant muslim family members, like his brother Abongo (Roy" Odinga who hates America, and their communist grandfather who ran with Russia and hated America, not to mention his socialist connection to his profound childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Communist Party, CPUSA, and Obama's endorsement by the Black Panthers. Obama titled his book "Audacity of Hope," after Pastor Wright's sermon about the need to destroy capitalism and the middle-class at the hands of the rich white people and the west. Article by Citizen Wells 3/21/08
Posted by: Jose | April 1, 2008 7:08 AM
Americans need to grow up. They certain grow old fast, but they don't seem to grow up. It appears to be silly that we try to judge someone's credentials by what his father, or grandfather or great grandfather of neighbours, pastor, or uncle, untie's credentials. Look Obama as Obama, and don't look at him through the refraction of the prism of his dad, his pastor etc. Grow up, dudes!
Posted by: Jerry | April 1, 2008 9:33 AM
Chris K,
You make the same mistake that many white people make by equating angry African Americans to hateful whites. You seem to forget that African Americans have a right to be angry. They have been oppressed, some times brutally, for hundreds of years. Whites have prospered because of it. Our country became the richest country in the world in large part because of slavery. If I'm a black dude, hell yes I'm mad. Since I'm a white dude I say, "go ahead black people blow off steam, you have my sympathy."
Posted by: Alex | April 1, 2008 9:48 AM
New Yorker magazine did an in-depth article on Trinity United Church, Wright and Black Liberation Theology.
Basically, if you are altruistic and your "heart is with the oppressed" then according to Black Liberation Theology, you are black.
It was a response to the deafening silence of a lot of churches in the US on the subject of the morality of slavery, lynching, Jim Crowe and racism.
read the article.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/04/07/080407fa_fact_sanneh
Wright is no racist
Posted by: johnny canuck | April 1, 2008 10:35 AM
ok... so you made a donation to his campaign and want your money back after hearing what his pastor said??? It's ridiculous comments like that as to why our political system is a mess.
I don't care what his pastor says as long as he can seperate himself from it and convince me that he doesn't believe in the same. Which he has.... At least he doesn't claim to be speaking to God himself like the dimwit we have running things now. No one seemed to concerned about that when it came out.
People... can we please step back and look at the big picture? Lets elect a president that is intelligent, someone who's schooled in critical thought and can actually work to come to compromises on things. Not a cowboy or a woman who can't control her feelings or her husband. We finally have someone who inspires people, but he's being torn down because of ridiculous comments by his pastor. He didn't even say them... it's someone he's associated with and he's already denounced them. What else can he do???
Posted by: Bones | April 1, 2008 10:48 AM
You have to laugh at the Republics posing as 'independents' or Democrats. An example is brwnflo stating he was listening to Faux News.
Only Republics listen to Faux News. It is not a real news channel. These wingnuts are not going to vote for any Dem. candidate, so who cares what you think?
Posted by: weinerdog43 | April 1, 2008 11:01 AM
'Obama lied in an advertisement?' is a little too convenient...Like when it was leaked by Canadians the NAFTA dealings (later found to be a Clinton scam).
In simple, he talks to people like intellectuals not like Clinton who talks to people like there too stupid to realize a blunt face lie!!
Posted by: Bil | April 2, 2008 3:26 PM
Barack Obama for President of the UNITED States of America.
Posted by: PulSamsara | April 3, 2008 12:10 PM