by James Oliphant
Bill Richardson isn't going to take being called a traitor lying down. After all, he's a man who's looked dictators straight in the eye.
This week, he has taken to the editorial pages and the airwaves in an attempt to explain himself in the wake of being labeled Judas Iscariot by Cajun campaign strategist James Carville.
When the New Mexico governor came out for Barack Obama late last month, Carville, who made his name getting Bill Clinton elected, said he expected more loyalty from Richardson, whom Clinton named to his cabinet as well as ambassador to the United Nations.
When Carville was slapped around in the media for comparing a politician to the man who betrayed Jesus Christ, he didn't wither, didn't offer the usual "if I offended anyone, I apologize" platitude that passes for heartful regret in today's society. Instead, he penned an op-ed for the Washington Post in which he said, basically, "Damn right I compared him to Judas. And I'd do it again."
That was apparently too much for Richardson, who has an Old School (or perhaps, prep school; he attended one in Massachusetts) sense of honor. He fired back in his own Post op-ed the following day.
While I certainly will not stoop to the low level of Mr. Carville, I feel compelled to defend myself against character assassination and baseless allegations.
Carville has made it very clear that this is a personal attack -- driven by his own sense of what constitutes loyalty. It is this kind of political venom that I anticipated from certain Clinton supporters and I campaigned against in my own run for president.
Then Richardson appeared on CNN Wednesday, still sporting his Thank-God-I'm-no-longer-a-candidate beard. (Maybe it should be called a "Liberty Beard," remember Al Gore post-2000, hanging around his Tennessee house eating pizza and renting from Blockbuster?)
Richardson was there ostensibly to address a report in the San Francisco Chronicle that Bill Clinton turned red-faced and angry during a meeting with California superdelegates when Richardson's name was mentioned. Clinton said Richardson told him "five times to my face" that Richardson would never go against the family.
Richardson told CNN's John King that Clinton was wrong:
No. No, I never did. And I never saw him five times. I saw him once when he came to New Mexico to watch the Super Bowl with me. And we made it very clear to him that he shouldn't expect an endorsement after that meeting. And at one point, I was very close to endorsing Senator Clinton, but I held back. I waited. I felt the campaign got nasty. I heard Senator Obama. He would talk to me continuously.
I feel that he brings something special to bring the country together. And I endorsed Senator Obama. And I called Senator Clinton and told her. It was a tough conversation, but I think I've been totally upfront.
(Seriously. Clinton expected something from Richardson after he attended his Super Bowl party? Maybe Richardson just thought it was because he has the biggest TV in New Mexico.)
If the Clintons truly knew Richardson, they would know that he's never been one to wear the leash well. He's a man who has free-lanced his way across the globe, negotiating with hostile regimes such as North Korea and Sudan to free prisoners. And he's someone who chafed in his role of Energy Secretary because he was uncomfortable heading a snail-like bureaucracy. He's much more at ease being the dominant political figure in a small state like New Mexico, where he can call most of the shots.
At any rate, if Richardson was two-thirds-of-the-way in for Obama before, he's all-in now. Take that to the bank.




Comments
Bill Richardson is a political opportunist and Carville is right after Clinton gave him two big postions he is acting like a traitor. It's the old saying in politics what have you done for me lately? I think Richardson is overrated by the media. Jerry White, Springfield, IL
Posted by: Jerry White | April 3, 2008 9:04 AM
Did he shave? Or does he have a ponytail now?
Posted by: Mainer1776 | April 3, 2008 9:16 AM
I like Bill Clinton. I forgave him for the affair, respect what he's been doing since he left office, and I like Hillary. I also like Richardson. He had a ton of experience, but a kind of loveable bumbling demeanor about him that made it impossible to win the contest. Above all, I believe Richardson, because while he is bumbling, he also seems honest to a fault.
Bill Richardson owes the Clintons nothing. He has a right to endorse whoever he wants with no apologies to anyone. He is a decent man who is getting slammed by some very powerful, vindictive people.
Posted by: Grandblvd03 | April 3, 2008 9:18 AM
I can't stand Carville but he is dead on about Richardson.
Posted by: The Donald | April 3, 2008 9:25 AM
Everyone has a right to change thier mind. Isn't that the argument they are making with asking the Pledged Delegates by asking them to change thier minds??? They can't have it both ways. It looks shady and desperate.
Posted by: frustateddem | April 3, 2008 9:26 AM
The obsequious foot-washer has just found different feet to wash, as he continues his vice-presidential campaign obvious to everyone but Oliphant apparently.
Posted by: Joe Guyton | April 3, 2008 9:32 AM
Clintons are liars, have no doubt! They can lie their way to win.
Hillary famosly resuced GI Joe in Bosnia, she fight for HillCare! Bill 'never had s3x with that woman' - all sound too femiliar?
Welcome to the world of Clintons! Princess Chelsea is on her way to White House!
A bog round of applause for Clinton monarchy!
Posted by: roger | April 3, 2008 9:33 AM
I don't know what the controversy is all about. Bill Richardson should have known that the Clintons own him. It's as simple as that. Their attitude is that because he is latino who they gave a job to he should be loyal for life along with his whole minority group. Why do you think they felt that way about the Black voters who dumped them in South Carolina and elsewhere? They have not shown so much hostility toward any other democrat who jumped ship on them have they?
Posted by: GW | April 3, 2008 9:35 AM
"At any rate, if Richardson was two-thirds-of-the-way in for Obama before, he's all-in now. Take that to the bank."
Exactly. Carville's comments have only hurt the Clintons.
Posted by: Tim Smith | April 3, 2008 9:37 AM
It appears to me that Bill Richardson knows the Clintons
well. They are a venomous couple and neither has shown any tendacy for truthfullness, honesty, or morality. Thanks for taking a stand. By the way, I'm a McCain supporter.
Posted by: C. PRUITT | April 3, 2008 9:38 AM
Who says that just because someone helped you in your career that you have to do whatever they say. Do the Clintons think they OWN Richardson? Like slave labor maybe?
Posted by: kentro | April 3, 2008 9:42 AM
Bill Richardson is a political opportunist,acting like a traitor, not only to the , Clinton's, but to THE HISPANICS!! which group he says he IS. It seems he cares nothing about , what Hispanics wants and care. He is giving his BACK to Hispanics!!
Posted by: rleb2002 | April 3, 2008 9:43 AM
Sorry but Carville is absolutely correct. Richardson would be nobody without the Clintons who gave him the only posts he can boost about. He probably would have never made govenor had he not had the Clinton jobs in his background. At the very least he should have shut his mouth.
Eres un perfecto traidor punto.
Posted by: Mary Bec | April 3, 2008 9:44 AM
Richardson never impressed me! He's has a lousy command of the English language and is way over rated! If I were Obama, I wouldn't beat my chest over this guy! Look! He betrayed the Clintons period!
Posted by: T. Barr | April 3, 2008 9:45 AM
Sometimes we have to hire the best person for the job and not hire out of favors owed. I've learned that as part of a hiring team. Hiring the most capable candidate instead of hiring out of obligation, is usually better for everybody, including the less qualified person who didn't get the job. I think this is the case with Richardson's endorsement.
---John
Posted by: John Johnson | April 3, 2008 9:46 AM
To whoever thinks Bill Richardson let Clinton down: Government is for the citizens!, Richardson works for citizens! and not Clintons. It is not like he did not serve Bill Clinton either. If he was not a big guy, Clinton would not be upset. It shows they value his support.
Posted by: Kris | April 3, 2008 9:47 AM
Bill Richardson's beard fits the Judas part
Posted by: Richard E. Baer, D.V.M. | April 3, 2008 9:49 AM
And Carville is a bald Mary Magdalane
Posted by: JoePep25 | April 3, 2008 9:50 AM
As a life long Republican, I had hoped Richardson would get the nomination because he would have been the first and only Democrat I would vote for President. Unfortunately, I have to vote for McCain because I simply cannot support either of the current Democrat Candidates.
I wish Bill well, and hope he gets a good cabinet post if the Obama wins in November. Because, Shrillary will galvinize the Republicans like only Ronald Reagan could....
Posted by: John Getty, Orlando FL | April 3, 2008 9:52 AM
What is interesting is how few of Bill's appointees, outside the inner circle of which Carville is a member, have supported his wife's candidacy. It's hard to find a sub-cabinet Clinton appointee in Carville's corner. This says more than a little about the Clinton duo.
Posted by: Jim from Virginia | April 3, 2008 9:54 AM
DO you think governing the Wealthiest and most Powerful nation in the world--to say nothign of of being YOUR nation--should be based on Jr. High clique politics?
What MATTERS is how the nation is governed, the polices.
This is a nation of Laws, not Men.
Richardson's loyalty SHOULD BE to his nation and to his conscience, not to some other Person. If he thinks what is best for the nation is to have Obama rather than Clinton as President, do you think he should ignore that in order to be "loyal" to a person?
If you don't value loyalty to the nation and our best interest as #1, you're poltically immature.
Posted by: jackstpaul | April 3, 2008 9:57 AM
So the Clintons continue to display the "loyalty" mindset that Bush was lambasted for. (and rightly so). Did Richardson sign a loyalty oath like the Bushies had to?
The Clintons are hypocrites. The writing is on the wall. For the good of the party Hillary should throw in the towel. If she is so keen on her healthcare project then maybe she should accept a cabinet appointment from Obama so she can solely work on her pet project. (unless it really isn't that important to her)
Posted by: ws | April 3, 2008 9:58 AM
I don't think he's an opportunist at all. His positive campaign style and pleas for civility and focus on the issues were consistent. He has said here and elsewhere that what made him get off the fence was Clinton's scorched-earth personal attacks (and praise for McCain). If anyone is a political opportunist it's the Clintons. In spite of years of claimed experience, she hasn't showed backbone for any truly progressive agenda item since her failed health care reform attempt in the 90's. She was for the war, and then (read today's LA times piece) her "opposition" to the war had been in name and sound bites only. She has no principle. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Laura '08 - Ready on Day One.
Posted by: Jake C. | April 3, 2008 9:59 AM
Several points:
1. Hillary Clinton has made the argument that super-delegates should exercise independent judgement, which is what Richardson has done. Apparently, independent judgement actually means, endorse Hillary Clinton.
2. Bill Clinton, not Hillary, is who gave Richardson those positions. So he really doesn't owe Hillary anything.
3. This is the job of President of the United States. It should not be a popularity or loyalty contest. It is about picking the person who you think will do the job best. Richardson believes it is Obama.
4. The only other person who seems to govern based on who is the most loyal is . . . President Bush. So do we really want someone who uses the "loyalty test" to select who is going to run the government? Sounds too much like nepotism to me. Choose the person who will best run things, not the person to whom you owe or whom owes you, loyalty.
Posted by: Alex | April 3, 2008 10:01 AM
And Carville is a bald Mary Magdalane
Posted by: JoePep25 | April 3, 2008 10:04 AM
There seems to be a pattern of really bad negative vibes that surrounds the Clintons. No wonder the superdelegates are leaving her. No wonder Hillary is pulling 2nd place to a guy she totally underestimated.
Posted by: Paul Kadrmas | April 3, 2008 10:04 AM
Carville's comments were ridiculous. Comparing Richardson to Judas is about as accurate as comparing Bill-ary to Jesus. Give me a break people. Richardson is his own man, plain and simple. He made a tough decision to break with the Clinton Tyranny and support the person he feels is clearly a better candidate suited to the challenges we currently face as a nation. I will be glad however when Carville suits up and supports Obama in the general election, which he has promised to do when he wins the nomination.
Posted by: Josh | April 3, 2008 10:06 AM
Bill Richardson worked for Bill Clinton and not Hillary Clinton. Is Bill Clinton asking Bill Richardson to show loyalty to his wife?. Did he forget that he betrayed his wife all his life?
Posted by: Joe Rossman | April 3, 2008 10:08 AM
Bill Richardson owes the Clintons NOTHING. As a public servant he OWED the American public the truth; and tthat is what he gave us.
James Carville and the Clintons feel that they are 'entitled' to loyalty from ALL minorities. Yet the Clintons (and I’m sure James Carville) has never shown that same loyalty to the very minorities they depend on.
The Clintons have totally thrown their Black supporters under the bus in favor of their new favorite minorities the Latinos. This is pathetic and what is really sad is how willing the Latino community is accepting the Clinton’s blatant lies and hypocrisy.
Seriously…I would like to know WHAT EXACTLY HAVE THE CLINTON’S (ESP. HILLARY) EVER DONE FOR THE LATINO COMMUNITY???
Why does Bill Richardson OWE Hillary Clinton ANYTHING? I could understand if Bill Clinton was running for President; but to call him Judas for Hillary?? That’s ludicrous. SO ..who is Jesus? Hillary or Bill? The hypocrisy of the Clinton’s is ridiculous.
I believe that if Bill Richardson was white he would NOT have been attacked in such a personal way. David Gergen supports Obama and worked for Bill Clinton. James Carville & the Clinton’s attacked him? Plenty of black and white people who once supported Bill Clinton have jumped ship and now support Barack Obama. Why haven’t the Clinton’s or James Carville tried to castigate their political career by calling them Judas (the lowest form of betrayers known to mankind)? I think they allowed James Carville to attack Bill Richardson because he is Latino and they have no respect for their Latino constituents.
Latino supporters of Hillary Clinton should pay very close attention to how she allowed 'a close friend' to be thrown under the bus. Latino voters in Puerto Rico and other places need to realize that accepting Hillary Clinton will not alter their status. They will still be Latino and she will still be a rich white woman trying to use them on her way to the top.
Posted by: Yvette | April 3, 2008 10:10 AM
Anyone who approves the remarks of Carville is nothing less of a staunch supporter for oligarchy not democracy. This is the worst gutter politics I have seen from the Clinton camp.
Posted by: Mike K | April 3, 2008 10:13 AM
Hey Grizzly Bill, Is it true that once you go Barack, you never come back? I certainly hope so..
I rather like angry Bill Clinton. I can understand the source of his anger- I can't stand an opportunistic parasite either. And the tenacity that Hillary has shown through all of the insect-like partisan cicada calls to ditch her campaign is a true display of presidential metal.
Posted by: Dave | April 3, 2008 10:13 AM
I can't believe these posts about how Carville is correct. This is America people, a person has a right and a duty to choose at their will, not because they are expected to lean a certain way. Sure Bill Clinton helped him get his start on the world stage... but does this mean a person has to bend his beliefs because one is expected to 'owe' a favor in return? It was Clinton's will do that for him, I'm sure there was no pressure and then he expects lifetime loyalty like a dog following his master? Ha! I commend Bill Richardson. Maybe when it's John Q. Neighbor down the street borrowing the electric hedgeclippers in return for a night of babysitting, but when it comes to this... I'm sorry but these posts of Carville being right deeply trouble my sense of the fellow American.
Posted by: Brian K | April 3, 2008 10:13 AM
I don't particularly care for James Carville and I am inclined to vote for John McCain anyway, but they have a word in Spanish (actually several) for a person like Bill Richardson. Judas is much nicer than any of them. He was a fat little nobody two-bit Congressman until Bill Clinton gave him his big break. He's just playing by Washington's OLD rules: suck up and kick down.
Posted by: Greg Diaz | April 3, 2008 10:14 AM
CLINTONS have shown their hand. They had us all fooled that they were for minorities. But it was a you-scratch-my-back thing. They have collectively dumped the entire African-American community in hopes that they could turn Barack into the "N" candidate. And listen to the reports from ALL the stations, they are calling him the African-American candidate!
Throw in his name, toss in the Jeremiah Wright comments and there you have it a BLACK RACIST. And Fox is in bed with the Clintons on that. Nobody wants to debate or Godforbid write their own speeches so they come out and play "the race card", which i thought white people HATED. But the Clintons got everyone scared senseless. BUT NOT RICHARDSON, and the other minorities that are surely watching this play out. THEY DONT OWN NOBODY! Obama's support is going to come from YOUNG Americans (of all colors) and the dissed minorities. Clinton is counting on RACIST Americans - and shameless FEMINISTS. I would not want Obama under these kinds of circumstances.....but I have pride and a counscience.
Posted by: Keith Lifetime Chicagoan and Southsider | April 3, 2008 10:16 AM
The fact that Richardson broke with the Clintons even after being appointed by Bill says alot of about THEM. They don't inspire loyalty & it's their below the belt politicing straight out of an RNC playbook that has lost them any momentum they had after Hillary's big wins. No wonder so many of her supports will vote for McCain if she doesn't win the nomination. Pretty sad but I guess gutter politics works among the less educated.
Posted by: Celeste | April 3, 2008 10:17 AM
Wonder, what 30 pieces of silver will buy?
Posted by: sandi from Ohio | April 3, 2008 10:19 AM
The reality is that in order to move up the ladder in businesss, politics or life we need to build and be part of a team. Teams stick together and promote each others best skills for the success of all. That means remaining loyal to each memeber of that team. Bill Richardson endorsement is an act of disloyalty to not just Hillary but to all of the Clinton team members that supported him in the past. Sorry Mr. Richardson but you are a traitor of the worst kind. You left when the going got tough.
Posted by: Ann T. McGough | April 3, 2008 10:19 AM
Richardson, Clinton, Carville - it's all so standard - everyone missing the political point - Obama runs on a single platform - Change - meanwhile he's buying everyone's support (Richardson will be Something if he wins) So, where's the change
Posted by: Mike Edwards | April 3, 2008 10:21 AM
ill Richardson is a hypocrite. When he was on CNN he said that the Super Delegates should follow the will of the people.Yet when John Roberts pointed out to him that Senator Clinton had won the New Mexico primary and that per Richardson's own statement of "following the will of the people" that Richardson should then be endorsing Senator Clinton, Richardson's response was that"sure Senator Clinton won the primary but that was just a technicality."So according to Bill Richardson the "will of the people" counts as long as it agrees with him. Hypocracy, thy name is Bill Rcihardson.
Posted by: notjmariotti | April 3, 2008 10:21 AM
Richardson, Clinton, Carville - it's all so standard - everyone missing the political point - Obama runs on a single platform - Change - meanwhile he's buying everyone's support (Richardson will be Something if he wins) So, where's the change
Posted by: Mike Edwards | April 3, 2008 10:21 AM
Gee, he doesn't have to convince the Obama supporters about his "wisdom", the Republicans could care less.. So, who's he trying to appeal to? God? Yes, he's a "good" man.. :\
Posted by: Inthetail | April 3, 2008 10:21 AM
I think Bill Richardson has every right to endorse anyone of his choice. I do think, however, that Richardson went too far when he publicly pressured Senator Clinton to drop out of the race. Richardson also touted Obama as a once in a lifetime leader, which implicitly demeaning his former boss Bill Clinton and his presidential legacy. I would understand why the Clintons must be upset and rightly so.
Posted by: ysyoo1 | April 3, 2008 10:27 AM
The Clintons are owed NOTHING, and neither are their egotistical overbearing supporters, who are just as nauseating as the most knee-jerk dittohead or Fox News flake.
Richardson made the best decision (which is in line with most other "superdelegates" in his party), and he will make a great Vice President (just as he was the best choice that Dems had in the primaries, and most of them were too clueless about what a president actually does to realize it).
The dream (or in the case of sane Americans, the nightmare) is over. All of you hypocritical Hillaroids can go vote for McCain with an arrogant smirk. Then ask yourselves who the real Judas is. Ill be passing out free mirrors on election eve to aid you in answering that question.
OBAMA / RICHARDSON 2008
Posted by: Saint Subversive | April 3, 2008 10:27 AM
James Carville, is a die-hard Clinton man that taught Bill how to lie and all his underhanded attics to get elected what would you expect?
Posted by: Leon | April 3, 2008 10:28 AM
James Carville is married to one of the country's top Republicans. He was effective in getting Clinton elected. Clinton went on to drag the country to the right and destroy the remnants of the Democratic Party.
So why is it we should listen to Carville or the "Clintons"; let alone vote for them?
Posted by: Patrick Hunter | April 3, 2008 10:30 AM
To the writer of this articule: James Oliphant. Your position should be neutral. You shouldn't wirte this article at all if you like Richardson. We just want to know the facts, NOT your opinion! The last 2 paragraphs of your article is very non-professional, it show that you are not an objective reporter!
Posted by: Holt | April 3, 2008 10:30 AM
Richardson is honorable. Carville and Bill Clinton are not. None of us know the circumstances between Clinton and Richardson but based on character the truth lies closer to Richardson than Clinton.
Either way Obama will bring the change needed in this country. The Clinton's are looking back to when he was president. Big Mistake.
Posted by: Ron M | April 3, 2008 10:34 AM
I applaud Bill Richardson for having the courage and integrity to stand up against the corrupt Clinton political machine and do the right thing. He knows in his heart that Obama is the best thing that could happen to this country, and to Latino citizens. He's definitely looking out for his people, and at the risk of his own political career. If only all politicians were so honorable.
Obama/Richardson '08 - what a wonderful country this would be!
Posted by: Lisa Anderson | April 3, 2008 10:37 AM
Carville, like the Clintons, AND like the Bushes, suffer the fatal flaw - the Oliver North flaw - of confusing personal loyalty with loyalty to the Constitution. To paraphrase Harry Truman, if you want personal loyalty, get a dog. Long live Bill Richardson. He remains the most qualified candidate who ran for the presidency in 2008.
Posted by: John | April 3, 2008 10:40 AM
Mike, to answer your question: CHANGE is what you'll be left with if Obama gets elected.
Posted by: Dave | April 3, 2008 10:46 AM
Back to good ol' mud slinging. Yep, that's the Clinton way.
Posted by: egc52556 | April 3, 2008 10:55 AM
Carville is accusing Richardson of taking a bribe in exchange for his endorsement of Obama, yet the press is not calling Carville on this. I suggest that they do.
Posted by: nazcalito | April 3, 2008 10:56 AM
Those of you complaining about what Carville told the media and what Bill told super-delegates, are really ignorant. I guess that's why you're not political strategists.
Look at the effect.
1. Richardson took a week off campaigning for Obama.
2. He's now doing damage control instead of talking about Obama.
3. He's damaged goods either way. He either lied or betrayed his longtime friends. Lose-Lose situation.
He's smart enough to know what his endorsement meant and now he has to pay the political price. Pure genius, imo, by Carville and Bill.
Posted by: DavidO | April 3, 2008 10:58 AM
The Clintons want to have it both ways. On one side, they want to be able to persuade delegates pledged to Obama to change their allegiance. On the other hand, they are upset that a super delegate they have been wooing chose to endorse Obama.
Likewise, they want to count in Hillary's experience as a lawyer, Walmart board member, charity club member, State First Lady, National First Lady and Senator. But they want to count out Obama's experience as a community organizer, social worker, lawyer, law professor, State Senator and Senator and then call him in-experienced.
If Obama borrows words from a friend and supporter to bolster his speeches, they call him unauthentic. If Hillary exaggerates her foreign jaunts "under fire", they want the media to overlook it.
This list can keep on going.
If there is a straight path and a dishonest path, the Clintons are bred to choose the latter.
It is this kind of deviousness and hypocrisy that drives decent and loyal Democrats into Barack Obama's camp.
Posted by: John Peters | April 3, 2008 10:58 AM
I used to like Gov. Richardson. I think his true colors are showing now. He does have the right to endorse anyone. He does not owe the Clintons. It was the way he handled the situation. I was stunned by some of the things he said when he endorsed Senator Obama. He certainly slapped President Clinton across the face and he lost credibility when he stated the conversation with Senator Clinton got heated. That's when he lost my respect! Also, I think Judas is fitting!
Posted by: charlieb | April 3, 2008 11:00 AM
Isn't this supposed to be about what's best for the country, rather than who you owe personal favors to? Richardson thinks Obama brings something special to this race and this nation, and has gone public with that feeling because he wants what's best for the nation. I respect that. If someone who had history with Obama went public with support for Clinton, I would respect their right to do that as well, but there don't seem to be any examples of that to point to. Everyone I know of who has known Obama well supports him. That speaks volumes.
Posted by: David in NC | April 3, 2008 11:04 AM
truth:
all latinos voted.
CLINTONS BETRAYED BILL RICH.
Posted by: kg | April 3, 2008 11:05 AM
Whatever took place between Bill Richardson and Bill Clinton... It got personal.
Richardson is screwed politically as a national candidate. He can forget about ever becoming President... Take that to the Bank!
What many of you don't know is that former Presidents are always Presidents ... "understand?'
By Richardson "double-crossing" Clinton, has put him between a rock and a hard place.
JUDAS is a harsh term. But, If the shoe fits...?
Posted by: Randy | April 3, 2008 11:08 AM
To Ann T. McGough. I agree that team building is important in both business and politics. But, when does team building turn into lemming-following? Blind allegiance will sink both a business and a country. The honorable thing for the Clinton camp to have done was to allow Richardson to disagree and move on. That would have demonstrated far more character than Richardson's alleged treachery. But, their response reveals more about their character than Richardson's.
I am a life-long Republican and for the first time EVER, the Democratic party may actually have a chance at my vote. A lot depends on how they manage their inner-party conflicts. THAT will tell me whether they can do any better than my party has done recently. If they can't manage their own party honorably, then I might as well vote for McCain... who is at least a little closer to my views from a policy perspective. Yes, you read that right. I am actually willing to give some ground to someone who differs from me on policy if I can be persuaded of their genuineness, honor and ability to change.
This is a crucial time not just for the Democratic Party... but for the country.
Posted by: Robert S. Lentz | April 3, 2008 11:10 AM
Richardson owes the Clintons nothing. Endorsements/votes are not owned; they are won through a test of character. Hillary failed, and I am not surprised by the vindictive character assault on Richardson for that. Its really expected of Billary. Rich is a highly respected person nominated for a nobel peace prize 5 times. Maybe Bill clinton gave him one job, but like Bill himself he could have left a scandalous legacy if not for his own character.
He has followed his loyalty to his conscience and his nation and is not following the cheap"Washington rules" of mutual appreciation between powerful people. He is doing what he thinks is better for the nation, even if it means supporting an underdog. I have a lot of respect for such people. I wonder how ANYONE can support billary...
BTW WHERE ARE THEIR TAX RETURNS?!! Why the secrecy before the primaries?
Posted by: Anne | April 3, 2008 11:18 AM
Nobody own nobody, that's right, as soon as i have graduated college and get the job at Exxon, i cut my tied with my parent before they ask me help them to pay their grocery bill, because they have no saving, my tuition depleted it. How dare they ask me help them when i need to build a new life for me. This is America, man...
Posted by: Danny | April 3, 2008 11:19 AM
Richardson owes the Clintons nothing. Endorsements/votes are not owned; they are won through a test of character. Hillary failed, and I am not surprised by the vindictive character assault on Richardson for that. Its really expected of Billary. Rich is a highly respected person nominated for a nobel peace prize 5 times. Maybe Bill clinton gave him one job, but like Bill himself he could have left a scandalous legacy if not for his own character.
He has followed his loyalty to his conscience and his nation and is not following the cheap"Washington rules" of mutual appreciation between powerful people. He is doing what he thinks is better for the nation, even if it means supporting an underdog. I have a lot of respect for such people. I wonder how ANYONE can support billary...
BTW WHERE ARE THEIR TAX RETURNS?!! Why the secrecy before the primaries?
Posted by: Anne | April 3, 2008 11:19 AM
People should revisit Bill's second term. Most people in his cabinet felt betrayed by him because they devoted a substantial portion of their lives to his adminisrtation only to see it all go to waster over the Lewinsky scandal - his lack of self control. All their programs and goals went out the window.
Most correctly felt that their loyalty ended then.
Posted by: mark | April 3, 2008 11:19 AM
WHY WOULD BILL RICHARDSON CARE WHAT SCUM LIKE THE CLINTONS SAY. HE KNOWS THEY ARE ALL LIARS AND WILL SAY ANYTHING TO TEAR DOWN ANYBODY THEY DISAGREE WITH. THE HELL WITH THEM BILL.
Posted by: BOO-HOO | April 3, 2008 11:21 AM
Clinton dog Carville bark the wrong tree. Who do you believe? Clinton's "five times to my face" or Richardson's 1 time superbowl? Clinton has a history of lie so I take Richardson's words over Clinton everyday of a week
Posted by: Natalie | April 3, 2008 11:26 AM
You can bet that Bill Clinton not only raised money for Richardson's campaign for the governorship of New Mexico, he probably stumped for him as well.
While I acknowledge Richard's position in Clinton's administration, it was Bill who gave him the job in the first place.
I believe Obama just doled out enough rope to Richardson to hang himself.
Posted by: GoAwayNow | April 3, 2008 11:31 AM
I don't understand why people in general are upset by Bill Richardson being his own man. You want lapdogs, join the GOP! Bill Clinton did give Mr. Richardson the job in the Energy Dept and at the UN. Bill R. performed both of those jobs admirably. He got through the FBI witch hunt over Dr. Lee who was supposedly a spy at Los Alamos and he certain gained more respect for the USA at the UN than current moron in the WH has done in 8 years. As for being a big fish in the small pond of NM all I can say is that it is very rough and tumble politics here with the democrats just as much out for the Gov as the republicans. My own opinion is that Gov. Richardson has been ok. He certainly is no Gov. Gary Johnson (Google him and you will see what a progressive republican can be!!). With Carville and the Clintons I think all we get is business as usual and I would like to see real change and Obama offers the best chance of that. To me in the long run it makes little difference, I only push one button. I do want to see the GOP swept from the US House and Senate and we do stand a good chance of that in New Mexico this election.
Posted by: Bill T | April 3, 2008 11:32 AM
James Carville is a very clever theaterical political strategist.
His comparison of Bill Richardson to Judas Iscariot on Easter weekend was a multi-layered critism, posturing, and historical revisionism.
His biblical reference on/near a Christian holiday is a caluclated attention getting approach. Like or hate it, it was effective.
The the sting of the sensationalized attack on Richardson was intended to resonate beyond the Governor. Underneath the first layer of the insult, was a distractionary (the attention went from another endorsement to Obama, -> to a highlevel traitor) attempt undermine the clout his endorsment brought to the Obama campaign. Carville's comparison arguably mitigated the damage of Richardson endoring Obama to Hillary's campaign.
Carville also attempts a very sutle point.... within the analogy comparing Bill Richardson to Judas Iscariot, also and skillfully likens Bill Clinton to Jesus Christ.
Just as the strategists on the right attempt to cannonize the memory of Ronald Reagan in the same light as George Washington. As he is hired to do, Carville is manipulatively working to get Hillary elected, while revising the historical preception of the Bill Clinton presidency.
Both James Carville and Mary Matalin are entertaining players in ongoing political theater.
Posted by: Lloyd Lachnite | April 3, 2008 11:46 AM
What a waste of breath, defending your honor to people who have none.
Posted by: John Chuckman, Toronto, Canada | April 3, 2008 12:08 PM
Why did Richardson wait so long to endorse anyone at all? Wonder what's in it for him? No CHANGE here just politics as usual. And to those who say he can endorse "whoever he wants", well then, if he liked BO so much, why didn't he endorse him from the start? If he was going to betray Clinton, (and yes he is a Judas) he could at least have the guts to be honest and up front about it to the Clintons. I lost total respect for Richardson.I do think its interesting that New Mex went for the HRC, yet Richardson talks about "the will of the voters". Carville was right.
Posted by: Em | April 3, 2008 12:17 PM
Male menopause is what's happening with Bill Richardson. A few months ago you were gray...'Just of Men'? You are a fake. Has anyone told you tha you are the older generation!! You are "old Washington" personified gut and all!
Posted by: charlieb | April 3, 2008 12:19 PM
Danny: Wow...proof-read man. You can't talk about a college education and write like that. I mean incorrect spelling is one thing, but your comment was like listening to a cave man. Loyalty to your former boss' wife eight years after he is no longer your boss is an absurd notion. What would you think if your boss from eight years ago called you and said, "My wife is applying for a job and you're on the board that is hiring for the possition. Because you worked for me eight years ago I expect your full recomendation of her regardless of whether or not you think she's the best person for the job." You'd be pissed at even the insinuation that you shouldn't use your own judgement. We can hash and rehash that President Clinton gave Gov. Richardson "opportunities" durring his administration. The truth is, he made cabinet appointments that every President makes. He got EXACTLY what those appointments called for. Loyal service durring the time of his employment. Richardson DID HIS JOB for the eight years thus fulfilling his "contarct" with his boss. Lay off the guy. He's doing what he thinks is right. Even is he does have some sort of political agenda, don't pretend that EVERYONE in our culture doesn't ask, "What's in it for me?" on a daily basis. We all have self-promoting agendas. Why should Bill Richardson be any different? Because he's a leader? So are former Pres. Clinton and Sen. Clinton but they have their own self-promoting agendas too. All the canidates do. Otherwise they wouldn't be where they are in life...y'know, running for President of the United States of America. You aren't considered for the most powerful job in the world unless you've done things to promote yourself.
Posted by: JDH | April 3, 2008 12:26 PM
If it is true that Bill Richardson would be nothing without the Clintons, what does that say about the Clinton's integrity in choosing nominees for political positions? You can't have it both ways: Either he was worthy of the positions he had, and therefore "owes" nothing to the Clintons, or the Clintons are not fit for the White House. I personally am glad for a politician that is more concerned about what is right for the nation than about their own political alliances.
Posted by: JD | April 3, 2008 12:34 PM
I have a problem with James Carville. Didn't he and his wife Matlin both write and sign a letter to Judge Walton requesting leniency for Libby after Libby was found guilty?
Throughout his primary campaign Richardson seemed to be acquiesing to and protecting HRC. It made me a bit ill. During certain debates Richardson looked the least presidential--he often had a pained or confused look on his face--like a guy who was in way over his head. There seems to be some sort of sap factor about Richardson.
Regarding Bill Clinton--the Repug congress never took impeachment off their table--even for a lie about sex. What would a Repug congress have done if Bill Clinton did all that Chimpy/Cheney have done? Also, Bill needs to stop pointing his finger at the crowd while he is stumping for his wife. The visual of his crooked index finger pointing at us is only a reminder of his initial denial re "that woman". He would do better putting his entire arm in a sling while on the trail. Lastly, WJC did leave a budget surplus to us and W. Bush when he left office. W. Bush will be leaving the largest budget deficit in the history of our nation--not to mention an invasion gone wrong with never an exit strategy, and the 1 Trillion plus in "war" supplementals--to us and for the next president succeeding him. Which of the two men was more responsible to and for the USA? Under which of the two men have you had more money in your pocket? I have to say it was Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Vivian | April 3, 2008 12:43 PM
I like Bill Clinton. I forgive him for his marital infidelity, as well as his endless string of scandals, and that whole perjury & obstruction of justice thing. Further, if he gave somebody a cabinet position, he owns them, and they shouldn't think they can go endorsing somebody else. Even moreso if Bill graces them with his presence at a Superbowl party.
Posted by: Clinton hagiographer | April 3, 2008 12:59 PM
The only loyalty the Clintons show is for donors with large wallets. I use to really admire Bill, until they pardoned all those criminals who had made large donations to there campaign. They’re probably making larger donations than ever, now that they are not fugitives. Where was the Clintons loyalty when Al Gore ran his campaign? They knew that if Al won, that would kill Hillary’s run at the presidency in 08. Taking about Judas.
Posted by: Mark Songey | April 3, 2008 1:07 PM
Obama and Richardson, to me, are tearing apart the democratic party. Obama has consistently belittled Bill Clinton's legacy and touted Reagan (who almost drove us into an economic Depression). How does Obama think this will cause the party to come together behind him. I won't.
Posted by: lizzie | April 3, 2008 1:22 PM
Wow I read all the posts before me and I'm actually offended that so many americans are close minded.
Let me ask you this question those who support what that piece of gutter trash Carville said. If your boss hired you to do your job, then years later you find out your boss was underhanded and deceptive you'd still work there? Hell no, you'd more than likely be looking for another job. What Mr. Richardson did really isn't any different. He knows the Clintons better than anyone who has posted or read this article. So how can you sit there and call him a Judas? Do you know anything about these people aside from what you've read? NO, you do not so how in the hell can you say Carville is right? The man is ignorant and I'll even call him downright evil. I pity those of you that are so small minded that you believe Richardson owed Hillary or Bill anything.
Btw yes BC did give him the job but he in no way helped him excel in the ways he did. Richardson did that all on his own. Just because you're given an opportunity doesn't mean that person is given blind loyalty.
And what is this garbage I read about Hillary pretty much should have been given the nomination? Hell no, this is what its called a democracy, you want your leaders to be automatically given power without your say? FINE go to a third world country where there is no choice and see you how like it there. Hell ask someone from Cuba, ask them how they enjoyed the Castro regime....yeah don't talk about stuff you know absolutely nothing about....morons
Posted by: Ryan | April 3, 2008 1:22 PM
Do we need more evidence that the Clintons are just Bush-lite? Now they think that Cabinet posts should not go to the most competent people, but the most loyal. Government departments are not there to work for the American people, but to provide patronage rewards to cronies.
Posted by: David Grenier | April 3, 2008 1:27 PM
Sometimes competence trumps good old boy politics. Heck of a job Brownie.
Posted by: Jean Chevreille | April 3, 2008 1:30 PM
Bill Clinton said Richardson told him that he would never go against "the family"? Sure, whatever you say Don Vito Clintone. Should we all kneel and kiss your ring or do you save that for the interns?
I've never been able to figure out what benefit Carville brings to the Democrats or why the networks put him on TV. When he's on I'll be watching "CSI: Wherever" re-runs or reading a book.
Posted by: Tom O | April 3, 2008 1:42 PM
Seems like boo hoo pitiful me cries from the Clintons, get over yourselves, this is one of many reasons why no-one likes the Clintons anymore, quite right Bill Richardson, stick to 'em, more should be like you, stick it to the bully's !
Posted by: Steve | April 3, 2008 1:44 PM
Richardson ought to have remembered who Dante placed in the Ninth Circle of the Inferno, the deepest pit of Hell. It was those who sinned by betraying their benefactors. There's no way Richardson can come out of this imbroglio looking anything but untrustworthy; the Clintons are playing it up, because they hope some of Richardson's slime sticks to Obama. They may have judged things correctly, from a tactical point of view.
Posted by: Fossil | April 3, 2008 2:16 PM
I am currently in a Guirgis play called "The Last Days of Judas Iscariot" opening soon in Washington, DC.
I wish James Carville and Bill Richardson would come together and see this production by Forum Theatre.
Being called Judas is not as simple as everyone seems to make it. Judas obviously had a role to play in the cruxifiction. Without him there would be no salvation according to the New Testament.
This play poses all the questions and leaves the audience to their own conclusions.
Posted by: Margery Berringer | April 3, 2008 2:29 PM
Jean Chevreille, what's the brownie comment about???
Posted by: hey | April 3, 2008 2:37 PM
"Hell hath no fury like a Clinton scorned!" ...lol
Bill Clinton betrayed his wife so...why shouldn't Bill Richardson??
Posted by: Yvette | April 3, 2008 2:50 PM
I will teach all my children to not ever behave like Bill Richardson. Dis loyalty may pay off sometimes but loyalty is a character trait hard to acquire. If a soldier changes side, he would be called defector or worse, traitor. The other camp always welcome defectors or traitors, just to weaken their enemy.
If Bill Richardson is Judas Iscariot then Obama is Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli.
Posted by: nT | April 3, 2008 3:17 PM
If Bill Clinton betrayed his wife so...why shouldn't Bill Richardson??
Look in the mirror before you open your mouth Bill.
Posted by: Nancy | April 3, 2008 4:11 PM
Bill Richardson has no honor. He promised the Clintons he would not take sides until after the contest was over. He lied.
Posted by: c. perry | April 3, 2008 4:45 PM
"He's has a lousy command of the English language and is way over rated!"
I was wondering who was still voting for Clinton. Thank you for the answer.
Posted by: Jesse | April 3, 2008 6:14 PM
By all accounts Hillary should be in the lead, raising more money and utilizing a well polished political machine to spread her message to the masses. Bill Richardson is only one of many Democrats who looked at both candidates and decided not to support the Clintons again. It should be as simple as accepting his position and moving on to win other delegates. But the sad truth is its a common practice of the Clintons to apply bullying tactics to secure the race when they find themselves in a difficult situation.
Being loyal does not mean you endorse the candidate you honestly can't support. In fact, any real person would vote their conscience and decide for themselves. Unfortunately, the Clintons refuse to share this viewpoint and the Democratic Party will suffer because of it. Sleeping with a President does qualify you to be President. If it did, then Bill Clinton knows a lot of people who would qualify for the highest office in the land.
Clinton supporters tend to forget that the Democratic Party just took control of the House and Senate after losing because of the Clinton legacy. I guess her supporters are more interested in getting her elected then the state of the party as a whole and record number of new voters attracted by Obama..
Posted by: Mark C | April 3, 2008 8:15 PM