Clinton camp: No 'blowout' in Pa.

Here we go with Team Billary moving the goalposts....again.

Clinton has to win Pa by at least 20% to even remain "somewhat" competitive in this race, End Of Story.....

Maybe Clinton's fellow Republicans will help her pull it off?, who knows.

No goal post being moved.
JUST THE FACT THAT THE OBAMA POSITION IS FAKE---PUT IN THERE BY REPUGNICANS AND PEOPLE STUFFING BALLOT BOXES( BOTH SIDES--BUT WE KNOW WHICH SIDE HAS YOUTH, NUMBERS AND ENERGY TO MAYBE TILT IT A LITTLE?).
GIVE IT UP.
If this campaign had not started out and continued being horribly sexist, ageist, racist, classist---it would have UNANIMOUS support.
Instead, Obama (and Hilary too) stood by and watched Kucinich and Edwards trounced by the news media. Only Obama complains NOW that for the first time his feet are held to the fire.
And If Michelle puts on this "I'm just a humble housewife" crap anymore I'm gonna be sick.

The Clinton camp can't be sure of a blowout because of the undecideds. They are right to hedge a bit on this. But undecideds are breaking for Clinton so she looks pretty good. Moreover, she is now ahead of Obama in the national Gallup poll, and leads McCain by more than Obama does. Obama's dreadful debate performance and Clinton's excellent performance has really had an impact (which explains why the MSM has stopped reporting Gallup numbers over the past couple of days).

GO HILLARY!

Well, Austin Austin. I hope you're right.
But dont' get too excited about the polls-remember, we don't VOTE like the polls, due to the electoral college.
And you're still gonna need a ground game to police the messiah team's voting. HIlary and John Edwards weren't on top of that earlier.
I hope we can beat McCain in the fall. I'll vote for whomever's on top of the ticket, but I'm really alarmed about all this.

Thugs R US – The Obama Campaign

Obama is nasty, ruthless and utilizes techniques not unlike those of a street hoodlum. He recently gave Hillary the finger and laughed about it on Public TV. How did he get away with this? He also stole his position as senator by stealing it from the other contenders by having all his competition unfairly disqualified.

Besides this he is surrounded by unsavory characters such as Ayers of the violent group Weather Underground, the white hating Rev. Wright and Senator Meeks, a wife who openly hates America, his Kenyan half brother Islamic Jihad terrorist Abongo “Roy” Obama, or his Jewish/Israeli hating best friend Rashid Khalidi, or his close advisor Robert Malley who advocates supporting and helping the terrorist group Hamas, or Mr. McPeaks, Obama’s military advisor who open believes American Jews are the "problem." and “Christian Zionists were driving America's policy in Iraq to benefit Israel,” or Obama’s super delegate and major long term supporter Senator Meeks who openly hates and distrust all whites and gays or Obama’s most dangerous affiliation to Mr. Auchi who was Saddam Hussein right hand man and made billions in Iraq and has been a important supporter and behind the scene man throughout Obama’s rise to power.

Is this the role model we want for our children?
Do we hate ourselves so much as to elect someone into office who is so clearly intent on destroying this country? Or are we blinded by our fear of not wanting to seem racially prejudice so we vote for a color and not for a man.

And If Michelle puts on this "I'm just a humble housewife" crap anymore I'm gonna be sick.

Posted by: ladies against women | April 19, 2008 6:21 PM

Catherine,

Yeah that reminds me of the time Hillary Clinton told the press that she wasn't going to stay home and bake cookies for anyone or the time she told Bill, "Scew'em" when she was talking about the blue collar white working people in America:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html

Yep, that Hillary Clinton is a real class act.....NOT!

Go burn your bra somewhere else, Catherine.

CLINTONS LOSING FREINDS & MONEY:

Two articles were just published on the NYT site from tomorrow's edition. One chronicles how some friends have been leaving the Clintons in their time of need, and why they are doing it. To me the key quote is:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/us/politics/20loyalty.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

But there is something more wrenching at work as well, a reckoning of whether the Clintons, on balance, have been good or bad for the party.

Another article chronicles the money problem Clinton's campaign has run into, highlighting the fact that, as so many of us knew, the old way of raising money would inevitably run into a roadblock once big donors are maxed out
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/us/politics/20donor.html

But her big-dollar fund-raising apparatus that was once the envy of the political world is encountering obstacles as many of those in its regular networks of donors have reached the maximum on their personal contributions or grown tired of the relentless press for donations.

The first article goes so far as to classify the various tiers of "disloyal" offenders to the Clintons (as the campaign itself sees it - how childish is that?):

People within the Clinton orbit say there are a varying gradations of perceived disloyalty. In their eyes, the least offensive (if somewhat annoying) group are “likely” Hillary Clinton supporters who have not defected, in part out of recognition of past ties, but have not made public commitments to her, either. Until Friday, this would have included Mr. Reich, who had said he would not formally endorse Mr. Obama out of “loyalty” to Mrs. Clinton, a friend for over four decades whom he actually went out on a date with in their college days.

Next:

Then there are those whom Mrs. Clinton worked hard to win over but who have actually taken the step of endorsing Mr. Obama. These would include newer senators like Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, or older colleagues, like Senator John D. Rockefeller, of West Virginia.

Last but not least:

But the worst offenders, associates say, are former Clintonites who not only endorse Obama, but who also publicly criticize Mrs. Clinton’s campaign as they do so. Mr. Craig, a former law school classmate of Mrs. Clinton’s, became a charter member of this club when he wondered aloud (to Jonathan Alter of Newsweek) “if Hillary’s campaign can’t control Bill, whether Hillary’s White House could.”

Mr. Richardson moved instantly atop the blacklist after he endorsed Mr. Obama and then took the added step of saying that people around the Clintons practiced “gutter” politics and that they felt entitled to the presidency. He was tarred as “Judas” in The New York Times by James Carville, still a fierce defender of the Clintons.

Lest there be any doubt as to the courage it took Richardson to endorse Obama...

Articles like this - showing the Clinton campaign engaging in childish "classification" of degrees of disloyalty, and showing their difficulty raising money - certainly will do them no favors among Super Delegates. Nor should it.

"God, gays, and guns": Bill Clinton agrees with Barack Obama:

This seems like another case of "then and now" triangulation from the Clintons:

In 2004, Bill Clinton said that even though the Democratic approach to government is favored by most Americans, the Republican approach to cultural issues like "God, gays, and guns" helps keep the GOP competitive in places like Oklahoma. He also cited white racism (euphemistically described as "white Southerners who were opposed to civil rights") as an important part of the Republican coalition.

In 2007, Clinton said that economic anxiety leads to anti-trade and anti-immigrant politics. The problem, he said, was that there wasn't "enough good new jobs."

Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYaJHAnmjtk

As a Democrat, I'm probably an anomaly in that I like both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton for their virtues and despite their faults. I also admire John McCain as an individual, although I disagree with his political positions. What I dislike is the level of acrimony and name-calling into which this election campaign has descended.

In particular, I find continued sniping between Clinton and Obama supporters disheartening. I favor Obama as someone with a potential for greatness that comes once in a generation, but if Clinton were nominated, I would support her enthusiastically. Both are imperfect human beings, as we all are, but both would be excellent presidents in my view.

It seems to me that many of us who have been caught up in the conflict have lost our focus. It's important to remember that our allegiance cannot be to any individual candidate, but to the 300 million Americans whose future rides on the outcome of an election that will decide between a McCain view of health care, war and peace, social justice, and the environment, and a shared Obama/Clinton perspective that understands far better what it means to struggle with the problems of ordinary people. Obviously, McCain supporters will disagree with my assessment, as is their right, but for those conflicted between the two Democratic candidates, we would err if we forget that when we vote, we are really voting for a constituency of millions rather than attempting to confer a personal reward on any one individual.

Given the likely damage from a continuing exchange of accusations, I would be dishonest if I did not state that I hope Hillary Clinton will soon withdraw. That is not because she is unqualified. Rather, given the arithmetic of the nomination battle, she no longer has any realistic chance to become president, but she can still ruin Obama's chances. I expect that many superdelegates who are not yet publicly committed will urge her not to play the role of spoiler, and I also expect that despite her disappointment, she will eventually agree.

What people fail to realize is, it doesn't matter what McCain and the Republicans intend to throw at Obama, Clinton betrayed the Democratic party and all it stands for. Nobody crosses that line. Nobody. The sore loser kitchen sink tactics that are 'toughening him up' are not for a fellow democrat, who has no chance of winning, to do! She is a traitor. A horrible team player who cannot be trusted. Hillary has proven time and time again, that she is disloyal to the party and people who made her first lady and a senator. She has cursed, spat upon and even taken a crap on the Democratic party, and there is no end in sight. It's fine for Sean Hannity, Fox and Republican 527s to do it, but eating your own young is a cannibalism that will forever define the monstrous character of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

As a moderate Democrat, I have supported HRC since the early days of the campaign.

It was a difficult decision--I agonized over the decision for quite some time. I liked both candidates. Nearly all of my friends are huge BO supporters.

Still, I questioned the experience factor and came down in favor of HRC just barely.

Now I say...

Enough is enough

I am thoroughly convinced that BO will be the Democratic nominee and that it is vital to put the interests of the American people first and foremost--certainly above the individual aspirations and ambitions of a candidate, whether that be HRC or anyone else for that matter.

With each passing week, HRC is simply laying out the groundwork that the GOP will be following. To those who argue the contrary, I would simply state: one way to win a political argument is to engage in the "Big Lie." History is replete with disingenuous political figures who were able to captivate the public with repeating a big lie multiple times over and over again until the lie permeates the conscience.

This is what is now occurring. By openly questioning and attacking the patriotism of BO, HRC is unwittingly stating arguments which can only be given strength by the neo cons who are surrounding JM. In fact--her arguments are providing the essence of the GOP and their 527's swift boat goons with sound bites.

Is BO the perfect candidate?

There is no such thing.

Is his campaign perfect?

There are flaws in every campaign.

The last straw--the one that broke the camel's back--was HRC's comments castigating Democratic activists.

Mrs. Clinton--I am one of those activists. I stood by your husband even at the height of his impeachment. I stood by when the GOP took over Congress during his first mid-term election.

And I stood by you even though the writing has been on the wall the past few months that BO was riding a tidal wave and this just was not in the cards for you.

I stood by you when President Clinton engaged in tactics which appeared to inject race into this campaign. I argued with my friends and others that this was simply magnified by the media and by a skilled BO campaign.

But now you have attacked my brothers and sisters--men and women who also stood by President Clinton. Men and women that made it possible for him to win two terms. Men and women who came forth with their hearts, their sweat and their pocket books to support him during the darkest days of his political career.

Perhaps this is only fitting.

I for one implore the people of Pennsylvania to end this charade. It is time for the Democratic Party to do everything possible to ensure that we do not face Bush's third term.

It is vital that we do everything to preserve the lives of our troops--to reunite them with their families.

It is vital that we punch back at the GOP and their 527's who are already getting their ads together to smear and tarnish the reputation of BO, whose only sin was to aspire to a political position that has been coveted also by a former first lady.

There are no coronations in America.

Being married to a president does not entitle one to take his role. This is not a monarchy. This is a democracy.

This is a land where a child whose father deserted can grow up to become the first AA editor of the Harvard Law Review and can become President of the United States.

Sorry for the rambling message.

I have a lot that has built up inside of me for the past several months.

I now feel like the weight of the world has been lifted from my shoulders.

Mrs. Clinton--please do your country the best service you could have ever imagined.

Work for the defeat of a Bush third term.

Stop smearing a truly decent man destined to be President of the United States.

This former HRC supporter says quite simply what my mother used to say to my brothers and sisters when we used to act up--

Enough is enough

John E,
Speaking as a Republican, please never insult us that way again. She is not a member of the GOP and never will be. Please understand that by insinuating anything else you are insulting us more than you are her.

Politely,
Green

Obama is a fake for sure! He doesn't discuss his answers, only rehashes the problems! We need a president who will start working day ONE in the Whitehouse! And did his wife not say that she just RECENTLY, for the first time in her life, felt proud of the US? Do we really need a woman like that as first lady? No way! He claims he doesn't take oil $ and yet HC's website shows where oil execs to the tune of $200,000 gave to his campaign! Obama lies! Stop being fooled by the lies people!

You get caught in a lie, you have to apologize, right, because people know you LIED. is that supposed to be integrity? Which lies would she NOT get caught on once she's president? Haven't we had enough of casual dishonesty at the highest level? Is telling a lie like the Bosnia whopper really okay with her supporters? Is it really okay to lie to win an election?

If PA goes for Hillary, they'll be the new Florida 00, helping to ensure that the Repubs take the White House, meaning more war, more tax breaks for millionaires, more environmental despoiling (despite what he says--his party won't go for any nonsense about "environmental protection." Are you kidding?

She can't win, she doesn't have the votes. All PA gives the nation by voting for her is a weakening of our eventual nominee. A lot of the talk from her supporters is about sexism. Well, all I can say is it's embarrassing to have the first serious woman candidate be so self-obsessed. Is that really what woman are supposed to bring to the process, more of the same egotism that's polluted the process for all these years?

Vote for a winner.

Hilary Clinton - the best friend a lobbyist or a Republican could ever ask for!

Here's video of Clinton in a concise moment talking about who she considers "Real Americans"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaAkcXynqLA

In response to Fred,consider me anomaly number 2. Well stated. I would have loved to see Hillary win the presidency and even have Obama as vice (i know...i know...) but most importantly to have a Dem who can clean things up on Capitol Hill since the last tenants seem not afraid to lose their bond.

Sue, Obama only takes contributions from individuals, and if some of those are employees of oil companies, so what? The sheer number of his small contributors makes it inevitable that hundered of thousands will come from any and ever major segment of the economy. (Did you not realize that, or is this another cynical attempt to spread BS?)

Sadly th Clinton campaign continues it's poltics of division. We just don't need another president who's a liar and will divide the country. Woman or not, Hillary would do just that.

A true leader stand up for the sacred tenets of democracy - how can we elect a presidential candidate without representing ALL of the United States. Barack Obama refuses to recognize FL and MI votes - he refused to agree to a MI re-vote - Self-serving, our democracy is broken - a true leader stands up for the rights of others, for inclusion, not exclusion - Ask yourself - who is your leader? I know mine is the candidate that honors and respects the right to vote. The answer: Hillary Rodham Clinton!

HRC has sunk so low in her tactics; its unbelievable. No integrity. Now I just can't see her as president, period.

barack obama's chances of becoming president of the greatest country in the world are very slim to nil

Nice to see people like Bobby Alexson using terms like "hoodlum" to describe Obama.

In any case, Clinton's main argument for continuing the fight is that other races this close, such as the Democrats in 1968, 1980, and 1984, and the GOP in 1976, the challenger took it all the way to the convention. Of course, what Obama supporters like to point out is that the party that had a convention fight (or close to one) lost every single time. Dean knows this, too, which is why he's urging the Superdelegates to put an end to this race once and for all.

If Obama wins the presidency, that means we will have two consecutive deer-in-the- headlights presidents. That will also mean that we will have two consecutive shadow presidents. Who will he pick to be his Cheney?

If Obama wins the presidency and the Congress doesn't go along with what he wants, will his supporters storm Washington, D. C. to force our Congress to do what he wants or else?

Obama isn't an elitist. He and his wife are angry and arrogant and don't love our country. Don't let Obama's personality fool you. He's just as mean as Michelle. Yes, he and Michelle would bring a CHANGE to the White House, but it won't be what Americans had in mind.

Posted by: denise F | April 19, 2008 9:24 PM You get caught in a lie, you have to apologize, right, because people know you LIED. is that supposed to be integrity? Which lies would she NOT get caught on once she's president? Haven't we had enough of casual dishonesty at the highest level? Is telling a lie like the Bosnia whopper really okay with her supporters? Is it really okay to lie to win an election?
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All political candidates lie. In fact, everyone lies at one time or another. The question is what are they deliberately lying about and what do they want to get from the lie?

Obama is lying about not taking money from lobbyists. My research: Obama's campaign received $50,566 from 49 lobbyists, but aides flagged the checks during initial screening and said they will return the money. Still, for hosting events and otherwise raising money, the Obama fundraising team is relying on partners in lobbying firms who are not registered for specific clients, former lobbyists who recently dropped clients and spouses of lobbyists. The strategy allows Obama's team to reach the wealthy clients of lobbying firms while technically complying with his pledge.

What is Obama getting from his lie? He is getting votes from people who believe he isn't taking one cent from lobbyists AND he is getting millions of dollars for his campaign from the people I mentioned above. He has fooled his voters by deliberately lying to them. But I guess Obama's supporters think that's ok.

It's a hoot to see Obama supporters here talk about dirty tricks; they should see the campaign ads that Obama put out in OH, TX, and now PA. I'm a Dem, and I have decided to vote third party of Obama is the Dem candidate. And, so have about 8-10 of my friends, who are moderate Dems (some will vote McCain, if Obama gets the nod).

What blows me away is the naivete of the Obamatans, most of them. They snarl at the press for its "irrelevance" ONLY when the MSM comes after their candidate.

Obama has been given an incredible gift by the MSM; they left him alone for almost a year.

Seriously, even though I'm a Dem, I want to see Obama get ripped to shreds if he gets the Dem nod. He is no Progressive (look at his advisory group); in fact, he's to the RIGHT of Hillary.

Also, I've had it with these Move On morons, most of whom were in diapers when Bill Clinton was saving the Democratic Party's rear end.

Hillary has had to go negative because she has suffered relentless sexit, reverse-racist, and MSM attacks since day one - while Obama said NOTHING.

The Sexism has been rampant.

Hillary should take this thing right to the convention floor, and cut the heart out of sick "Progressive" wing of the Democratic party, with their effete intellectualism.

McCain will slaaughter Obama in OH, FL and PA - and even though I don't want McCain to win, I will get a perverse pleasure seeing Obama getting his face rubbed in it, because he has used every passive aggressive and dirty trick in the book, while a great female politician has been mercilessly slammed, and sacrificed on the altar of bringing this charlatan into power.

Kerry, Dukakis, Gore (before he rescued himself), etc - they promise, and they fail. Obama is cut from the same cloth, and if he gets the Dem nod - which I fervently hope he doesn't - we're going to watch him get turned into mince meat in November. I, for one, will enjoy every minute of that.

PA VOTE FOR HILLARY!! OBAMA CANNOT WIN GE B/C OF: WRIGHT, MEEKS, AYERS, REZKO, AND OTHERS SEE:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=61907

I was a working man and disability hasn't foogged me to vote differently. I beleive in Hillary and voted for her, but if Obama wins I still am a Democrat! If you vote Republican, and a lot of you have YOU W I L L regret this!!!!

Hopefully, PA voters will break the stalemate. It's clear that as Hillary betrays her own party she will betray the nation. More Clinton/Bush scandals and corruption would be a tragedy. At least she can't beat McCain.

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!

Here's how Hillary can still win the Democratic nomination: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBGyuYKlxIg&eurl

Good luck with that Hillary!

Posted by: denise F | April 19, 2008 9:24 PM You get caught in a lie, you have to apologize, right, because people know you LIED. is that supposed to be integrity? Which lies would she NOT get caught on once she's president? Haven't we had enough of casual dishonesty at the highest level? Is telling a lie like the Bosnia whopper really okay with her supporters? Is it really okay to lie to win an election?
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All political candidates lie. In fact, everyone lies at one time or another. The question is what are they deliberately lying about and what do they want to get from the lie?

Obama is lying about not taking money from lobbyists. My research: Obama's campaign received $50,566 from 49 lobbyists, but aides flagged the checks during initial screening and said they will return the money. Still, for hosting events and otherwise raising money, the Obama fundraising team is relying on partners in lobbying firms who are not registered for specific clients, former lobbyists who recently dropped clients and spouses of lobbyists. The strategy allows Obama's team to reach the wealthy clients of lobbying firms while technically complying with his pledge.

What is Obama getting from his lie? He is getting votes from people who believe he isn't taking one cent from lobbyists AND he is getting millions of dollars for his campaign from the people I mentioned above. He has fooled his voters by deliberately lying to them. But I guess Obama's supporters think that's ok.

Posted by: LisaS | April 20, 2008 1:21 AM
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Obviously you haven't heard any of Obama's lies. LisaS told about one of his lies, and her information is backed up by the ads he is running on television and radio spots. What about his integrity? Oh, I forgot. His supporters AND the media have been giving him a pass, so his lies don't count.