Nice emphasis of the 'cling' as well as the 'bitter' in this post. It highlights how naive this unvetted candidate is.
What’s wrong with waiting 8 years, Obama and Gobamas? Wait for LBJ’s 3rd generation of Dixiecrats to kick the bucket.
I used to say that. And I may say that again.
But, give a listen to the audio posted by Mayhill Fowler (the not so pretty girl recently on the bus who savvily recorded the disturbing speech in California).
It’s a disturbing speech and shaking a ‘you are naughty’ finger at Hilary Clinton will not work.
In fact, the whole strategy for ‘dealing’ with his comment disturbs me even more.
Because, there seems to be a pattern emerging from not just the Obama campaign, but from the lips of Obama himself:
Exclude from the ‘movement’ or otherwise silence the non-enthusiastic or
‘offending’ middle aged white or elderly women.
Listen to the audio Mayhill recorded—and be sure to thank her and show your support for her. She will need it, if Tavis Smiley is any example of how people non-conforming to the Obama message of ‘hope’ get treated.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-exclusive-audio-on_b_96333.html
His comments to the crowd that we need ‘new people’ in the Democratic party kind of chilled me to the bone. I find him very intolerant. I find his campaign intolerant. He responded to a question about his ability to really unite the party after such a divisive campaign by saying that “people get their feelings hurt” and they’ll be back (basically).
I don’t think that’s the case. People left his campaign because we felt it was using the wrong strategy and felt (but couldn’t quite put our finger on WHY it was fundamentally wrong-minded.
In his speech last night, in which he mentioned that ‘abstinence” and teaching appropriate behavior would be a good idea—heck—the people he BASHED last night have been speaking about this stuff for years! In fact, the Planned Parenthood crowd in Kalamazoo, Michigan (who later came to Chicago) managed to get a K-12 systematic sex education curriculum passed in the late 1970s. The JOHN BIRCH society worked to get it removed from the schools—and the Planned Parenthood clinic was actually bombed.
Would 70s style peaceful activists be part of the mature crowd Obama now wants replaced with his Gobama crowd? No. Not if he can help it.
That’s what it’s looking like to me.
Particularly when I heard Obama last night say talk about the pro-choice people he said were reluctant to infuse a “moral dimension’ into the abortion issue.
Patently false. Shame on Barack Obama.
Shame on him also for the recent clarification that in fact he DID attend a Muslim school (the public schools in Indonesia were like the community—women didn’t have to wear the veil, but…) seems like he was earlier being less than forthcoming. Even in liberal Islamic settings, women have a back of the bus status. I do NOT think Obama has been honest enough about this.
I think he’s sexist. Not just for the relentless bashing of Geraldine Ferraro, but for something really revealing in his speech last night, he ‘could not remember’ whether he’d had a conversation with his daughters about God. Well, if you’re in a 50’s throwback marriage where mommy is the main person interacting with the kids when they’re not in the expensive, enriching U of C daycare---then you perhaps are leaving a lot of that stuff to the wifey.
And perhaps that’s why Michelle (back when she let reporters cover her fund-raising) cut loose with the “ladies against women” style rant against Hilary (“How can she handle the White House when she ‘can’t manage’ her own house (sic).”)
The problem with sexism or any ‘ism’ is the elitism at its heart.
But there’s another reason why the Obamas must mature more before they’re at the top of the ticket.
They’ve let the newfound celebrity go to their heads.
Call it the ‘diva factor’.
Bonnie Raitt (you might remember she and Jackson Browne played a New Hampshire benefit for John Edwards’ superior approach—since adopted by Hilary Clinton—regarding nuclear power, greenhouse gases, and whatnot) chafed at being called a diva on a blues show last night. She said it reminded her of the old saw “Don’t look Miss Ross in the eye as she heads on stage.”
Barack Obama as diva.
Annie Oakley at least was a class act.

If the Democratic Party decides it wants another shameless panderer as its candidate, by all means Hillary should be your #1 choice.

She could open a fast food place in those working towns called Pander Express - where the menu looks fantastic and reasonably priced, but the food you actually get is someone else's garbage. She'll make store visits every few years to tell people how the food is gonna get better, but it never will.

The wrong strategy? You think bashing another Democratic candidate is the right strategy? Please don't give me the utter nonsense that you are doing this for our country. The only thing you seem to be trying to do, is, get a Republican elected. Your tunnel vision has caused you to lose your way. Weren't we going to elect a Democrat to our White House? Now it seems like the strategy has narrowed to: Every woman for her self, forget honesty or truthfulness. Let's just get our candidate elected and if we can't do that, we'll make sure her opponent does not get elected, either! What a narrow minded view, but I know it is not all women who have closed their minds to supporting Senator Obama. He is an admirable candidate and those women who have chosen to support him are admirable in their independence from the lock-step formation of the Senator from New York's campaign!!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE. NOW.

Hillary misleads voters. Hillary Clinton has made statements unequivocally trumpeting NAFTA as the greatest thing since sliced bread. The Buffalo News reports that back in 1998, Clinton attended the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, and praised corporations for mounting "a very effective business effort in the U.S. on behalf of NAFTA." Yes, you read that right: She traveled to Davos to thank corporate interests for their campaign ramming NAFTA through Congress. On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton "touted the president's support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region." The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that "the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement." In her memoir, Clinton wrote, "Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn't hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill's successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA."

Who is the elitist? Hillary cares more about the health care industry than the health of people. Nobody can argue that the biggest problem with health care in the United States are pharmaceuticals and insurers. Hillary Clinton became the second largest recipient in the Senate of health care industry contributions. "As she runs for re-election to the Senate from New York this year and lays the groundwork for a possible presidential bid in 2008, Mrs. Clinton is receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from doctors, hospitals, drug manufacturers and insurers. Nationwide, she is the No. 2 recipient of donations from the industry, trailing only Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, a member of the Republican leadership." Raymond Hernandez and Robert Pear, "Once an Enemy, Health Industry Warms to Clinton," New York Times, July 12, 2006. Lastly, her vote for the Iraq war was the greatest error in judgement for the health of thousands of U.S. men and women in uniform. Not to mention the health of millions of Iraqis.

Bill Clinton - 1991

"The reason (George H. W. Bush's tactics) work so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death," Clinton was quoted saying by the Los Angeles Times in September 1991.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/bill-clinton-flashback-al_n_96433.html

Early 90's Hillary Clinton spoke of not standing by her man like Tammy Wynette and not baking cookies...

-yet now that she's running for president, recipes and pretending to love guns is the modus operandi.

-people who are actually in touch are bitter and angry. It doesnt surprise me at all.

failures - WHAT FAILURES ??? OBAMA WILL STILL BE WAY AHEAD OF YOU HILLARY -- EVEN IF YOU FOOL PENNSYLVANIA INTO VOTING FOR YOU

BILL CLINTON PARDONED MILLIONAIRES WHO CHEATED WORKING CLASS PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR LIFE SAVINGS -- IF THAT IS NOT "ELITISM" , THEN WHAT IS ????

I heard everything he said, and to twist it into him not caring about ordinary people or being an elitist is absolutely ridiculous. Even McCain isn't jumping on this the way Hillary is.

Once again, it is unfortunate that Senator Clinton chooses to attack Senator Obama, instead of the Republican candidate. Obviously, her objective is to gain the White House, at all cost! I find it amusing that her claim to fame was her husband, former President Clinton, and to falsely claim, from that role, the role of an experienced executive, is ludicrious, to say the least.
As for some of her lock-step supporters; would someone please remind them that there is a general election after, the Democratic nomination. If they think that all of their tearing down of a fellow Democrat will encourage those supporters to switch their allegiance to Senator Obama, they better get back to the real world.
I regret that I am being critical of a fellow Democrat, but I have held back from criticizing Senator Clinton and her supporters for too long. Their tactics are right out of Bush's playbook and that is unDemocratic!! I hope they realize the error of their ways, but I would really doubt that they can change their strategy. They are committed to a scorched earth policy and that is unfortunate for the Democratic Party and our great nation.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME,ALIVE. NOW.

Maybe Hillary needs to wait 8 years to become president, it worked for Nixon and he had less ethical dilemmas than she does.

Obama, like Kennedy, can have 8 years, and then Hillary when she learns to have a better message can come in like Nixon did...

Look, Don--you aren't going to vote for HIlary regardless--you've already stated you'd rather throw your vote away on Nader.
Again?
At least some of us at least for a time were actually thinking of voting for any Democratic candidate who makes it to the top of the ticket.
I still will.
It's just that if Obama tops the ticket, McCain wins.

"If [Republicans] could cut funding for Medicare, Medicaid, education, and the environment, middle-class Americans would see fewer benefits from their tax dollars, feel more resentful paying taxes, and become even more receptive to their appeals for tax cuts and their strategy of waging campaigns on divisive social and cultural issues like abortion, gay rights, and guns."

-- Bill Clinton, in his 2004 memoirs, My Life

"CLINTON SPEAKS"

WOMAN TO WOMAN, HE CHOSE THE WRONG WORDS.

OF COURSE OUR HUSBANDS, SONS, DAUGHTERS, CLING TO THEIR RELIGION BECAUSE OF ECONOMIC DISPAIR. THAT IS WHY THEY PRAY FOR A BETTER DAY NOT JUST FOR THEMSELVES BUT FOR ALL.

OF COURSE MEN CLING TO THEIR GUNS, JUST LIKE THE VICE PRESIDENT CLINGS TO HIS "EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE" HE IS HE TOO THEN AN "ELITIST"

WOMAN TO WOMAN, HAS A MAN EVERR REALLY CLUNG TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN HIS WIFE, HIS GIRLFRIEND, HIS SIGNIFICANT OTHER, HIS NEEDS, HIS "QWEST" FOR THAT WOMAN, OR THIS WOMAN, OR THOSE WOMEN DURING TIMES WHEN HIS GOVERNMENT FAILED HIM, EVERY MAN IS AN "ELITIST"

WOMAN TO WOMAN, HE JUST GOT IT WRONG, AND SO DID I. BUT WOMAN TO WOMAN, LIKE MAN TO MAN, I TOO AM AN "ELITIST" AND I TOO WILL CLING TO MY BELIEFS, MY CHILDREN, MY HUSBAND, WHEN THE GOVERNMENT I SERVE, FAILS TO SERVE ME.

WOMAN TO WOMAN, IF THAT MAKES EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US AN "ELITIST" THEN I TOO WILL CLING TO MY FAMILY DURING BAD ECONOMIC TIMES.

JUST WOMAN TO WOMAN!

Hillary is a drunk!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skIlZflDs9Y

It's Hillary Clinton who doesn't get it, who's out of touch with the voters. We Pennsylvanians know that Obama hit the nail right on the head when he made the comments he did. Hillary thinks that throwing back a whiskey is making her one of the boys when all it's doing is showing her alcoholism!

Signed by one of the group, "Bitters for Barack!"

It is sad to say that should Barack get the nomination, the Democrats will lose their bid for the White House. There is still too much animosity and suspicion among white Americans who will vote with McCain or sit it out rather than have Barack and Michelle Obama in the White House. We're not there yet folks; a Black President is not going to make it this time until he proves his worth beforehand, and I am afraid that Barack has not proved anything other than he is eloquent with the spoken word and the "comeback rhetoric."
So, it would behoove Democrats supporting Obama to consider supporting Hillary because it is crucial that the Republicans do not win this November, and they will because Obama would be the weaker candidate in the general election. Egos aside, the middle class needs a strong winner in November, and Obama is not it! At least not yet - maybe in 2016.