Clinton to go past Pennsylvania

How noble of her. She'll fight for the right of these states to disregard the party rules that she supported back when she was the presumed favorite. She'll work hard to insure that they count the primary where she was the only candidate still on the ballot. I'm so impressed.

The official term for what the Clinton Campaign has become: Spoiler.

It is very very telling the 'no politics as usual kid' doesn't want to go on CBS and face questions like the FX his 'present' votes on gun control in IL had TODAY on violence ridden Chicago; the finger salute and (PLAY IT WITH THE SOUND---ALL 43 SECONDS AND YOU GET A REAL IDEA OF WHAT IT IS--DON'T EDIT IT LIKE MSNBC DID).
More telling is how Obama treated the McClatchey correspondent behind the scenes at The Daily Show.
Margaret Talev is to be commended for challenging the Messiah (and that's why I call him that--he or his organization or his 'bloggers' (I think Elizabeth Edwards coined the word 'trolls'?) intimidate journalists or other bloggers who challenge him on his 'message'--no deviation, please.
Everyone should MEMORIZE this paragraph:
" On the way into the studio, I asked Obama why he felt it important to respond to the late-breaking Clinton ad with an ad of his own and what he thought of her ad. “Are you supposed to be doing this with the pool?” he asked, and laughed. Then he sat down and had the earpiece put in. I asked him if he’d give us a comment after the taping and he said, “Maybe, it depends on how well behaved you are.” But then after the taping, I was whisked off ahead of him and didn’t get to bug him again."
What will happen when and if he assumes the presidency? Real Journalists to Guantanamo? We already have an Arab cameraman rotting there. But no screaming from the left, from Keith Olbermann about that. They only scream when somebody other than Messiah seems destined to win.
Michael Moore and Jon Stewart are on the Messiah Ship of Fools. Let's finish with Jon Stewart, first. Where's the FCC? The FCC? To host a candidate the night (and day) before the election, another attempt to rehabilitate himself from FINGERING a fellow candidate (a more statesmanlike one) who painted Petreus into a corner the other week (Alert Move on.org--that's still ignored) --that should be a violation of the Fairness Doctrine. Oh wait! We don't have one! (Alert Free press =--oh wait! The only unfair debates they care about are the ones who make Obama be accountable.
So of course 'naughty' pool journalists must be hustled away from candidate.
HOW IS THAT NOT 'POLITICS AS USUAL?'
And Michael Moore's diatribe against Hillary is unconscionable. It's interesting he's not paying attention to the tidbit in the (horribly biased with its adjectives--but not facts) article about Michelle Obama's so called 'humble roots'--Daddy making 40 grand plus is pretty darn good. But why didn't Mike point out that Michelle's U of C hospital also allowed an insured man to die--a lot like one of the examples in his excellent Sicko.
I had so much respect for all three men--Stewart ( for taking on big media's biased and stupid practices), Obama (for saying he'd end the war, gun control, environmentalism--all words, turns out, no action), and Moore (for being, well, real).
I realize all politicians, and people who want to interview them have feet of clay. I know who HIllary is. I'm liking her more and more as this campaign continues

"But Clinton was defiant Monday night, telling CNN's Larry King, 'I'm going until we get Florida and Michigan resolved.' " Wasn't that issue resolved some months ago when these two states renegued on rules they had previously agreed to in hopes of influencing the primaries which were to follow? I sympathise with the voters in those two states, who had no choice in the matter, and cast their votes in good faith, but to even consider rewarding such a breach of contract would be an injustice to the rest of the states who played by the rules.

I wouldn't expect anything else from a madwoman.

"But Clinton was defiant Monday night, telling CNN's Larry King, 'I'm going until we get Florida and Michigan resolved.' " Wasn't that issue resolved some months ago when these two states renegued on rules they had previously agreed to in hopes of influencing the primaries which were to follow? I sympathise with the voters in those two states, who had no choice in the matter, and cast their votes in good faith, but to even consider rewarding such a breach of contract would be an injustice to the rest of the states who played by the rules.

Senator Clinton should go past Pennsylvania and run until she gets tired of it, if that is what she chooses! That is her right. I am saying the same thing for Senator Obama, if he finds himself in an untenable situation. That includes Mr. Ralph Nader, as well! Every and anyone who chooses to run for any offfice, has that democratic right to do so! That is one of America's tenets that makes her so great and let us never forget that!!!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE. NOW.

Gosh, "Debate or Quit" sounds so bitter. From what I can tell, Hillary's actions, as opposed to her words, indicate that (a) she doesn't care what the people think, because she persists, despite having less votes and less delegates (situations that are not likely to change), and (b) she won't live up to her own agreements (see: FL and MI) if it's not to her advantage.

How is this different than George Bush? And won't McCain be likely to use this in the general election?

At some point I have to question her motivation - continuing this benefits neither the Party nor the Nation. Democrats like "Debate or Quit", and myself to some degree, are getting bitter. I also don't think Hillary can beat McCain.

Hillary and Bill have become Lieberites, bitter, self-centered and self-delusional. Her continually running is helping no one except the gop, ppl like Don Fitz, who get off on the repug tactics that hillary is employing. How can anyone really believe that a person hated as much as hillary is would be an effective president? We deserve better than the 51% rule of the past 7 years.

What is it, she has a bet with Bill to see how many delegates she can get out of this thing? It clearly isn't about being the nominee anymore and most definitely isn't about being President. She's poisoned that well too thoroughly.

Now about Michigan and Florida. Saying she won those states is rather like saying Kim Jong Il won the election in North Korea.

Debate or quit. The losing candidate wishes to debate as this may be his/her only hope to win...nothing to loose. The candidate who is ahead, on the other hand, doesn't have anything to gain. That Senator Obama agreed to umpteen+ such debates gives credit to his confidence in his ideas to change the old politics. In my opinion, the last debate hosted by ABC was flawed from the beginning when they opted to have George S. as a moderator. I'm not questioning Mr. S.'s objectivity, but to have a former Clinton staff member as moderator doesn't bode well for ABC's objectivity.

Well, judging by the comment of Debate! Or Quit!, Hillary certainly has the delusional vote sewed up. Declining to answer a question is one step away from sending journalists to Guantanamo? Working as a hospital administrator gives you life-and-death responsibility for every single pa

Debate or Quit wrote:

"I'm liking her more and more as this campaign continues"

Enjoy the next couple of weeks. Clinton will win this one by a whisker, got clobbered in NC, and tie in Indiana.

Clinton has the media spin on her side, since they want her to be the candidate. But the supers will speak, and shortly after NC, Obama will gain so many that it will be essentially over.

If the candidates split the the 588 remaining, he will be 94 shy of 2024. She will be 233. And by May7th, the day after NC, If he picks up 40 supers and she picks up 20 (their current steady pace since mid february), He will be projected at 50 shy and she will be at 210 shy of 2024. That's when the rest of the supers will assume that it is over.

Why, because she will need 88% of the remaining supers to win, and he will only need 21%.

Since mid Feb. Obama has gotten about over 2/3 of the supers that have announced. That isn't suddenly going to veer into Clinton gaining 88%.

Most of the remaining supers are in states Obama won. And they know that unless Clinton makes an overwhelming case, which she hasn't, they are not going to go against the will of their voters. Period.

You can hope it will be different, and you can say that there is a probability, a small one, that it will be different. But in reality, there's two weeks left.

Patrick

How can you write that Clinton "won both states" (Michigan and Florida) ? Obama's name was not even on the ballot in Michigan, and he did not campaign in either primary - which was in accordance with rules that had been agreed upon in advance by all the players, including the Clinton campaign. I am mystified by the extent to which the press seems to have swallowed the Clinton campaign's historical revisionism on this subject. As she told a radio interviewer in NH early on, the Michigan primary "means nothing" because it was being carried on in violation of DNC rules. Now, because she desperately needs more delegates and popular votes, she is carrying on this phony crusade to validate the flawed primaries in MI and FL. It's patently dishonest and self-serving.

Sane people support Obama.

So, she's changed her mind and now she wants the votes in Michigan and Florida to count so that when those totals still don't change the math she can urge the Superdelegates to overturn the will of the voters.

Code blue.

Let's get something straight - (1) it isn't RUDE for Clinton to continue in the race. Girls/women have traditionally been asked to step aside whenever men/boys decide they want to play with the toys, being told they are rude if they don't. (2) Clinton didn't campaign in the two states being contested - she merely kept her name on the ticket, a choice permitted in the Dems' rules she and Obama agreed to. Finally, (3) It is terribly unfortunate that these extraordinary candidates have to run against each other in the same race. However, I'd like to ask for just one thing: DON'T HATE THE OTHER CANDIDATE OR THEIR SUPPORTERS. This is best thing we all can all do to make and keep the peace among ourselves.

"Let's finish with Jon Stewart, first. Where's the FCC? The FCC? To host a candidate the night (and day) before the election, another attempt to rehabilitate himself from FINGERING a fellow candidate (a more statesmanlike one) who painted Petreus into a corner the other week (Alert Move on.org--that's still ignored) --that should be a violation of the Fairness Doctrine."

Were you complaining when the Daily Show had Hillary on the night before the Texas Primary? Was that not an equal violation of the fairness doctrine in your mind?

http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/clintons_daily_comedy_rounds_p.html

She's in fantasyland. How on earth does she expect to pay for her campaign for the next few months ?