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by Johanna Neuman
New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine, who has already pledged as a superdelegate to support Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential bid, said today that Clinton has to overtake rival Barack Obama in the overall Democratic Party popular vote to continue.
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"I think she needs a good, big win" in the upcoming Pennsylvania primary, Corzine said on CNBC today, describing himself as an "aggressive supporter" of the New York senator. "You have to see a real cut into this popular vote, and I think she's going to get it."
Corzine, one of 794 superdelegates who could decide the Democratic presidential nomination, was asked what he will consider before casting his vote.
"Who's got the most, I'm going to look at the popular vote," he said. "I think you need at least the popular vote ... I actually believe Michigan and Florida need to be part of that."
(Photo of N.J. Gov Jon Corzine, superdelegate, by Matthew Gilson, Chicago Graduate School of Business.)
Obama, an Illinois senator, leads Clinton by roughly 700,000 popular votes in primaries and caucuses from states that have already voted, not including Florida and Michigan, both punished by the Democratic National Committee for holding their primaries early.
"I think it's crazy for Democrats to walk away from two of the biggest states, tell them that we're uninterested in their point of view," he said.
Corzine warned that the big beneficiary of disheartened Democrats in Florida and Michigan could be Arizona Sen. John McCain, who has all but clinched the GOP nomination. "There's no reason to end up having people feel like this wasn't a fair fight and somebody got pushed out of it prematurely," he said, adding that the two states should hold new primaries, to be paid by Democrats.
Comments
Well of course she will win big in PA, she's got half of the Republican party trying to vote her in for the slaughter that she would get in November. Mr. Corzine is eiher ignorant of this fact, or too involved to see the obvious. Obama 08
Posted by: Xcellentform | April 3, 2008 12:15 PM
Xcellentform @ 12:15 p.m.,
I would be assured to know that there are Republicans even in the keystone state, at this historical moment in time. Arlen Spector, AS variety republicans, u can't count those. They are just lagging on the paperwork.
Posted by: Scott - Houston, Tx | April 3, 2008 12:39 PM
"SENATOR CLINTON SPEAKS"
THIS IS WHY I'M HOT AND THIS IS WHY "JOHN MCCAIN" IS NOT.
CAMPAIGN FINANCING.
56% NO VOTE ON VETS
"PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS"
THIS IS WHY I'M HOT AND OBAMA IS NOT.
IT'S 3AM "WHAT MARRIED MAN CAN ASWER THE PHONE?"
THIS IS WHY I'M HOT AND THIS IS WHY THEY ARE NOT.
I AM WOMAN, I'M A MOM, AND A HUMAN BEING, STRONG WILL, AND STRONG MINDED, SO PUT A "H" ON YOUR CHEST AND HANDLE IT.
BECAUSE THIS IS WHY I'M HOT AND THIS IS WHY THEY'RE NOT!
A BUNCH OF DIVORCED, VOW BREAKING, WIFE ABUSING, ALCOHOLIC, DRUG REHABING MEN IN A POLITICAL ARENA SELLING THEIR POLITICAL FOREFRONT TO AMERICAN PEOPLE. "TYPICAL" AT BEST.
I DON'T SEE NO "ROGER RAMJET" IN ANY OF THE TWO.
THIS IS WHY I'M HOT, THIS IS WHY THEY'RE NOT.
LONG LIVE NANCY PELOSI!
Posted by: Roger Morris | April 3, 2008 2:26 PM
Scott, I'm having a hard time following your comment. A little elaboration please?
Posted by: Xcellentform | April 3, 2008 2:54 PM
Excellentform,
Rick Sanatorium was unelected in 2006. Lynn Swann did not seem to have much of a chance to become governor. Philly Town is like, what, 95 to 99 % democratic. Arlen Spector is not a Republican that a Republican should ever want to count on. He may and he definitely may not. Arlen Spector republicans just have not formally changed their party affliation yet.
I think that, many times, Republicans get far too much credit for being capable of manipulating the outcome of something like this. That ever- present Karl Rove thing. CERTAINLY, I could be wrong, but I would question if Republicans in the Keystone state, what few that there genuinely seem to be, would really care enough about a primary outcome of the other party to ripple up the waters.
I understand the concept, but working for the perceived weaker opponent of the other party for a favorable November outcome is not something that I personally would ever bother with. It plays out however way it plays out by my rules of engagement. As always, I do hope for the best, for me and for America, but I will live / co-exist with the results, either way. That, of course, is just me.
Respectfully, that was the essence of my comment.
Posted by: Scott - Houston, Tx | April 3, 2008 4:42 PM
Scott, Couldn't you throw in a few insults, do some name calling, or disparage someone's ancestors? I'm afraid your answer crosses the border into reasonable dialogue and I'm not sure the moderators will tolerate that kind of talk here.
Posted by: Tom O | April 3, 2008 6:53 PM
Tom O, you initially stunned me, but then I got it. I am honestly trying to become a more rational, calmer, clearer thinking, blah, blah, blah person. Now, just don't go and read my RANT, and that it was, within the last 20 mins, on the legendary Jimmy Carter.
I am, (seriously) trying to stay more respectful, and by my own true nature, I really am. A Republican, trying to have some respect for the opposition, all of 'em, and that's truly a test.
I may have lost it though, on Jimmy Carter. May have to buy a guitar. Strictly as penance. Thanks. You almost had me there.
Posted by: Scott - Houston, Tx | April 3, 2008 7:49 PM
Scott: It makes so much more sense now!! I'm not sure what the current vibe in the state of PA is, as I'm in WI, but from hearing the calls of Rush, and reading many posts online, there is a more concerted effort this year from the Republicans, or so I believe.
I really hope the DNC (as well as the nation) goes back to the drawing board and figures out a better way to choose candidates. This new format is stretched out WAY too long, the Republicans have an upper hand by clinching their candidate sooner, and states should have to vote Reps and Dems on the same day.....just to name a few of the overhauls that need to take place, in my eyes.
Posted by: Xcellentform | April 3, 2008 8:41 PM
Xcellentform,
No, you are not necessarily off base on that. I did hear Rush say that also, and it truly surprised me because I, like Rush, think that the Republican party needs to develop a winning message, that could at least have some appeal to Independents, without any special assistance from either one of us. Kinda had to include myself in there, didn't I.
In defense of Rush, I know that many times he is throwing some levity into the mix so that his CBS / CNN media friends can have some protein in their diet, and they do get suckered in. If it is a satirical kind of undertaking, I usually get it, but I'm without my AM radio here of late. We had the same set-up in Tx, in March, but I would not be in on slanting the process like that. Also, there were other reasons for Tx Republicans to vote in the R primary, and not game the system.
It's an election, though. I know that anything is possible, but I would not be a player in that game. Would not think that Pa Republicans are a particularly Force of Reckoning, but of course I am not there.
Posted by: B. V. Scott - Houston, Tx | April 3, 2008 10:35 PM
This isn't really a problem for Hillary anymore. With Howard Dean announcing that the delegates from Florida will be seated she's now ahead in pledged delegates.
Posted by: Jeff | April 4, 2008 12:12 AM
Scott, I'm not sure we'd agree on a whole lot of issues, but I do agree with your posts here, for the most part. I'm not entirely convinced that there are enough Dems-for-a-day to make a big difference in the race. I think certain radio hosts like to think they can influence the outcome.
On the other hand, while Jimmy Carter wasn't my favorite president ever, I really didn't think he was all that bad. I didn't read your Carter post though. Buying a guitar counts as penance?
Posted by: Tom O | April 4, 2008 1:30 AM