Hagee: NOLA punished for 'sinful conduct': The Swamp
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Posted April 23, 2008 3:43 PM
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(Rev. John Hagee photo by JACK GUEZ/AFP/Getty Images)

by Mark Silva

The Rev. John Hagee, the one who told National Public Radio some time back that Hurricane Katrina was God's way of punishing the city of New Orleans for celebrating homosexuality, was asked again this week if he stands by that judgment.

On the radio, conservative talk show host Dennis Prager asked Hagee about it, and the Center for American Progress is only too happy today to report what Hagee, one of Sen. John McCain's supporters, had to say in response. (McCain has said that he does not agree with everything Hagee stands for, but hasn't renounced his endorsement.)

"What happened in New Orleans looked like the curse of God,'' Hagee told Prager. "In time, if New Orleans recovers and becomes the pristine city it can become, it may in time be called a blessing. But at this time it's called a curse.''

A gay pride parade had been planned in the city, Hagee explained. "In the case of New Orleans, their plan to have that homosexual rally was sin. But it never happened. The rally never happened.''

But, Prager asked, "In the case of New Orleans, you do feel that God's hand was in it because of a sinful city?

"That it was a city that was planning a sinful conduct,'' said Hagee. "Yes.''

Prager apparently never asked why the coasts of Louisiana and Mississippi got blasted in the bargain. And Hagee didn't explain. Hear the tape at ThinkProgress.com.

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(McCain has said that he does not agree with everything Hagee stands for, but hasn't renounced his endorsement.)

I just wanted to post this for Jeff who will have you believe differently.


Why isn't the media asking McCain more questions about Hagee, Paisley, Robertson, etc?? He gladly accepts this bigot's endorsement!!! Yet Obama is the one who is being castigated for his own minister, whose remarks he has repudiated.

I guess Dan Abrams' description of McCain as "Teflon John" is very accurate.


Hagee - speaking for God - stating what and why God thinks and acts. Amazing. Has he not read that God is no respecter of persons? This is not only presumptuous but dangerous. McCain will not repudiate Hagee any more than he will repudiate and denounce the ad in NC to the extent that state party folks cease and desist. And, if it's true that John has respect and following within his ranks, then why wouldn't the NC GOP chair do what's right? Because it's all for show. McCain appears to be offended and he gets free play of the Wright tapes and NC gets to attack and profit from the ad with attention-getting attacks on patriotism and nefarious alliances of Dem candidates. Absolutely essential Dirty Politics 101.


What has the response been by the GOP politicians to this man, John Hagee? As you would expect, it's been very warm and embracing.


"And more to the point, John McCain has not only failed to reject John Hagee's endorsement ... which he sought, but yesterday, McCain said he was "very honored, and very proud to have Pastor John Hagee's support.'' See video of Hagee speaking/preaching on John McCain's website".


Background on Hagee.


"Hagee was, if you'll remember, the guy who said that Hurricaine Katrina was God's revenge for a gay pride parade. He thinks war with Iran is essential so as to bring about Armageddon (when you can say bye-bye to the Jews). But as Glenn Greenwald says, Magee's a white Christian evangelical bigot, and therefore entitled to respect from the pundit class":


"White evangelical Ministers are free to advocate American wars based on Biblical mandates, rant hatefully against Islam, and argue that natural disasters occur because God hates gay people. They are still fit for good company, an important and cherished part of our mainstream American political system. The entire GOP establishment is permitted actively to lavish them with praise and court their support without the slightest backlash or controversy. Both George Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert sent formal greetings to the 2006 gathering of Hagee's group".


"By contrast, black Muslim ministers like Farrakhan, or even black Christian ministers like Rev. Jeremiah Wright, are held with deep suspicion, even contempt. McCain is free to hug and praise the Rev. Hagees of the world, but Obama is required to prove over and over and over and over that he does not share the more extreme views of black Ministers".


"How come Tim Russert -- in all the times he sits and chats with Lieberman, McCain and various high Bush officials -- never reads all of the inflammatory, disgusting, crazed "Rapture-is-Coming/ All-Jews-will-Burn/ Kill-All-Muslims/ Hurricanes-are-Punishment-against-Gays" pronouncements from John Hagee and James Dobson and Pat Robertson and demand that John McCain and George Bush and Joe Lieberman "denounce" those views and "reject" their support? What's the difference, exactly?"


http://wizbangblue.com/2008/02/29/the-acceptable-side-of-the-minister-rejection-debate-john-mccain-and-john-hagee.php


A well known Obama supporter compared our military men to Nazis, Soviets, and Pol Pot but all was forgiven after an apologetic, "If anyone was offended" statement.


"HAGEE SPEAKS"

ARCHIVES DON'T LIE!

TO THE ELDERLY THAT LOST YOUR LIVES ON DAY ONE, DAY TWO, DAY THREE, AND DAY FOUR!

I WOULD OF SENT "GOD'S WORD" BUT I CHOSE NOT TOO.

I WOULD OF SENT "JOHN MCCAIN" BUT I SENT HIM TO ARIZONA TO BE WITH GEORGE AND KARL.

I WOULD OF SAID A "PRAYER" BUT GOD TOLD ME NOT TOO! I'M A MAN OF GOD, BUT GOD TOLD ME NOT TOO.

I WOULD OF SENT "WATER" BUT GOD SAID HE ALREADY DID!

I WOULD OF SENT "PRAYERS" BUT THERE WERE LESBIANS, AND GAYS FLOATING BY!

I WOULD OF SENT JOHN MCCAIN, BUT "MEDICARE AND MEDICAID" ENROLLMENT WAS A MUST.

MY CHURCH JUST INVESTED IN "MERCK AND FERC"

I WOULD OF SENT JOHN MCCAIN, BUT HE NEEDED THE MONEY MORE THAN A KATRINA VICTIM. HE NEEDED THE MONEY MORE TTHAN THE ELDERLY WOMEN, AND MEN DYING IN NURSING HOMES. IT'S THEIR FAULT, AND GOD TOLD ME SO!

I'M NOT A SICK, SELF MINDED, SELF LOATHING, RACIST HIDING BEHIND THE CLOKE OF MAN, AND WOMANKIND ALIKE.

I'M "HAGEE" REVEREND HAGEE TO YA'LL. GOD TOLD ME SO! AND WILL DWELL IN THE HOUSE OF "JERRY FALWELL" TOO.

JUST LEARN HOW TO SWIM, JUST LEARN HOW TO REBUILD MY "CASINO" JUST LEARN THE LANGUAGE OF THE "CHOCTOW INDIANS" AND COME ON DOWN AND PLAY BINGO BECAUSE WE NEED MONEY.

MONEY FOR LOST SOULS, LOST ELDERLY SOULS THAT CANNOT AFFORD HEALTCARE OR A RIDE OUT OF A "HURRICANE ZONE"

NOLA DID IT, RIGHT ACROSS FROM HOMELAND SECURITY, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE VICE PRESIDENT AND GEORGE BUSH.

EMAILS DON'T LIE, BROWNIE DID A HECKUVA JOB.

JERRY, TED, PAT, JOHN, PAXSON COMMUNICATIONS, AND VICKIE ISEMAN, WELL WE THANK YA'LL FOR GIVING US SUCH A "CHAIRMAN"

IT'S KATHERINE HARRIS DAY, AT THE HOUSE THIS WEEKEND, SO YA'LL KNOW ITS A BYOW AND A BYOC DAY!..


When our president and his cabinet instruct our military men to torture prisoners, just who should they all be compared to? Ghandi?


You all crack me up! What does McCain have to do with the comments John Hagee makes. If Hagee endorses McCain in an effort to sway the conservative public following that Hagee has to vote republican so be it. We all know that McCain is not all that conservative anyway, he is simply playing the card since Huckabee is no longer in the run. Don't sit and make your own comments about these people and passing your judgement on them. You don't know any of the people you've mentioned other than public speculation. Try calling or emailing your questions to the person directly. Clean up your own verbal messes before you try convincing the mass' to hang someone. I thought witch hunts were over.


"HAGEE SPEAKS"

ARCHIVES DON'T LIE!

TO THE ELDERLY THAT LOST YOUR LIVES ON DAY ONE, DAY TWO, DAY THREE, AND DAY FOUR!

I WOULD OF SENT "GOD'S WORD" BUT I CHOSE NOT TOO.

I WOULD OF SENT "JOHN MCCAIN" BUT I SENT HIM TO ARIZONA TO BE WITH GEORGE AND KARL.

I WOULD OF SAID A "PRAYER" BUT GOD TOLD ME NOT TOO! I'M A MAN OF GOD, BUT GOD TOLD ME NOT TOO.

I WOULD OF SENT "WATER" BUT GOD SAID HE ALREADY DID!

I WOULD OF SENT "PRAYERS" BUT THERE WERE LESBIANS, AND GAYS FLOATING BY!

I WOULD OF SENT JOHN MCCAIN, BUT "MEDICARE AND MEDICAID" ENROLLMENT WAS A MUST.

MY CHURCH JUST INVESTED IN "MERCK AND FERC"

I WOULD OF SENT JOHN MCCAIN, BUT HE NEEDED THE MONEY MORE THAN A KATRINA VICTIM. HE NEEDED THE MONEY MORE TTHAN THE ELDERLY WOMEN, AND MEN DYING IN NURSING HOMES. IT'S THEIR FAULT, AND GOD TOLD ME SO!

I'M NOT A SICK, SELF MINDED, SELF LOATHING, RACIST HIDING BEHIND THE CLOKE OF MAN, AND WOMANKIND ALIKE.

I'M "HAGEE" REVEREND HAGEE TO YA'LL. GOD TOLD ME SO! AND WILL DWELL IN THE HOUSE OF "JERRY FALWELL" TOO.

JUST LEARN HOW TO SWIM, JUST LEARN HOW TO REBUILD MY "CASINO" JUST LEARN THE LANGUAGE OF THE "CHOCTOW INDIANS" AND COME ON DOWN AND PLAY BINGO BECAUSE WE NEED MONEY.

MONEY FOR LOST SOULS, LOST ELDERLY SOULS THAT CANNOT AFFORD HEALTCARE OR A RIDE OUT OF A "HURRICANE ZONE"

NOLA DID IT, RIGHT ACROSS FROM HOMELAND SECURITY, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE VICE PRESIDENT AND GEORGE BUSH.

EMAILS DON'T LIE, BROWNIE DID A HECKUVA JOB.

JERRY, TED, PAT, JOHN, PAXSON COMMUNICATIONS, AND VICKIE ISEMAN, WELL WE THANK YA'LL FOR GIVING US SUCH A "CHAIRMAN"

IT'S KATHERINE HARRIS DAY, AT THE HOUSE THIS WEEKEND, SO YA'LL KNOW ITS A BYOW AND A BYOC DAY!..


John W McBush sought out Rev Hagee's endorsement, this isn't the same as being a member of a church that has a pastor (Rev Wright) who occasionally says some crazy things, IT'S WORSE!


http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/21/john-mccain-sought-pastor-hagees-endorsement/


Rev Wright was the first person Bill Clinton turned to when he got caught committing adultery with Monica Lewinsky in the White House.


Wannabe Queen, Hillary, is SO finished now that Pa is over!


http://www.docstrangelove.com/2008/03/20/bill-clinton-to-reverend-jeremiah-wright-i-have-sinned/


Why hasn't the press publicized Mr. Hagee's remarks like they have Minister Wright's remarks? Of course, we know the answer, most of the journalist are now on the take! No longer can America expect an independent press, now they are well-heeled and well-fed and overpaid! Welcome to the Land of Greed and The Home of the Knave!!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE. NOW.


Ok, I'll say it: Hagee is nuts. I renounce his silly comments.
Now, Mark, will the Tribune have more about the hateful comments from Rev. Wright, some of which took place at Pincham's funeral? Or how about Wright getting a $1.6 million mansion in the evil, rich, white neighborhood -- and with a $10 million line of credit?
Or how about a campaign appearance with Michelle Obama in which an Obama campaign person said, "we need more white people up front"?

Just asking.


No way Hosea. The two are as far apart as two ministers can be. One Curses God the other calls sin sin and all over the Bible sinners suffer and so has New Orleans. God Bless even his enemies as is his nature and his love for you the sinner.


Don,

See Rupert Murdoch's recent dealings to see where journalism is headed.

Crazy liberal media!


don't worry dumb dumb, you can absolve your racism sunday at church. Just try to really mean it, then everything is ok. ten hail marys, two our fathers and be sure to place a few bucks in the straw hat.

tool.


Rev. Hagee speaks the truth without being predguist


Hagee=Scary and funny at the same time
Hagee=Judgement by a fat man
Hagee=Ms Piggy--like Rove
Hagee=Whats wrong with religion in America
Hagee=Example why Evangelicals don't have a country of THEIR own
Hagee=Embarrassment for America
Hagee=All that is wrong and hypocritical with the Pugs
Hagee=Be very afraid--or be condemned to Hell
Hagee=antiGolden rule
Hagee endorsement=Figurative kiss of death=Less votes.


Hagee = Disgusting Bloviating Slug


Roger Morris
Well said. Ya cracked off another good one.


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