Is Obama elitist, McCain is asked: The Swamp
 
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Posted April 14, 2008 10:57 AM
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by Jill Zuckman

Asked whether Sen. Barack Obama is an elitist because of his comments about people in small towns, Sen. John McCain deflected the question, saying Obama's comments are elitist and disparaging.

"These are the people who produced a generation that made the world safe from democracy," McCain said, adding that their values have little to do with their economic situation.

Pressed a second time about whether Obama's comments make him an elitist, McCain refused to answer.

"I don’t know, because I don’t know him very well. I don’t know Senator Obama very well,” he said. "Those are certainly not the vision I have of America and its strength and its greatness.”

McCain did say that Obama's positions "are fundamentally different from mine," and he said there is "a stark difference in our vision of America."

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It's the exact right thing to do. McCain doesn't know what's going on in Obama's mind and heart, but he knows what he said. Focus on the comments.
I don't know Obama very well and I'm glad Senator McCain doesn't. I've seen enough of what he's done to Illinois to know he's not someone you want as a friend.
McCain doesn't need to condemn Obama. Obama's doing a good enough job of that himself by essentially saying that if you're offended by his comments then he's sorry that you're offended by his being right.
I guess Obama can read the minds of small town America. McCain doesn't need to get into the mind-reading business with him.


'Perception is reality' as the saying goes. But this notion breeds hypocrisy........
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/04/14/hypocrisy-is-a-bridge-to-nowhere/


adding that their values have little to do with their economic situation.

What kind of politics is this? No one ever questioned value of these people. This is pure BS from one more out of touch with America than any candidate. He simply plays on patriotism like Cheney and Bush. If people don't feel bitter about the way our government has lead us to these problems then they only vote with their hearts (flag pin) and not their heads. Jeff....you can now call me an idiot because...hey...you're so above politics.


What a fluff piece.


Bill, what Obama said was that small town Pennsylvanians "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment" out of frustration. Whether you like it or not he's making a values judgement on why these people like guns, religion and are against free trade and illegal immigration. He's not even considering that one might not have anything to do with the other. The argument goes right to values.
I don't need to call you an idiot, Bill, you do a good enough job of that yourself.


I support Apple pie, hotdogs, baseball, and one large flag pin. If your about to lose your home, don't worry, lose it like a good American...with pride.


Yes, Bill R., military experience has nothing to do with the ability to lead the country:

McCain's confidential military fitness reports, which were released to The LA Times by his campaign staff, judged him an "exceptional naval officer with an unlimited future" and "unequivocally recommend him for accelerated promotion to captain and major command." There's someone who's certainly qualified to address the problems of this nation and it's not the JUNIOR senators from Illinois and New York.
Keep insulting the USA. You're doing one heckuva job.


bill'Hussein'--if it's a fluff piece--why are you reading it?
You just blog and blog and pretend Hilary is your enemy.
She's not.
We who support her are not your enemy. But Obama is telling you we are. He even called Clinton Annie Oakey! Further evidence he's not yet vetted at the national level sufficient to take the G.E. for us ALL. Not yet.
What’s wrong with waiting 8 years, Obama and Gobamas? Wait for LBJ’s 3rd generation of Dixiecrats to kick the bucket.
I used to say that. And I may say that again.
But, give a listen to the audio posted by Mayhill Fowler (the not so pretty girl recently on the bus who savvily recorded the disturbing speech in California).
It’s a disturbing speech and shaking a ‘you are naughty’ finger at Hilary Clinton will not work.
In fact, the whole strategy for ‘dealing’ with his comment disturbs me even more.
Because, there seems to be a pattern emerging from not just the Obama campaign, but from the lips of Obama himself:
Exclude from the ‘movement’ or otherwise silence the non-enthusiastic or
‘offending’ middle aged white or elderly women.
Listen to the audio Mayhill recorded—and be sure to thank her and show your support for her. She will need it, if Tavis Smiley is any example of how people non-conforming to the Obama message of ‘hope’ get treated.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-exclusive-audio-on_b_96333.html
His comments to the crowd that we need ‘new people’ in the Democratic party kind of chilled me to the bone. I find him very intolerant. I find his campaign intolerant. He responded to a question about his ability to really unite the party after such a divisive campaign by saying that “people get their feelings hurt” and they’ll be back (basically).
I don’t think that’s the case. People left his campaign because we felt it was using the wrong strategy and felt (but couldn’t quite put our finger on WHY it was fundamentally wrong-minded.
In his speech last night, in which he mentioned that ‘abstinence” and teaching appropriate behavior would be a good idea—heck—the people he BASHED last night have been speaking about this stuff for years! In fact, the Planned Parenthood crowd in Kalamazoo, Michigan (who later came to Chicago) managed to get a K-12 systematic sex education curriculum passed in the late 1970s. The JOHN BIRCH society worked to get it removed from the schools—and the Planned Parenthood clinic was actually bombed.
Would 70s style peaceful activists be part of the mature crowd Obama now wants replaced with his Gobama crowd? No. Not if he can help it.
That’s what it’s looking like to me.
Particularly when I heard Obama last night say talk about the pro-choice people he said were reluctant to infuse a “moral dimension’ into the abortion issue.
Patently false. Shame on Barack Obama.
Shame on him also for the recent clarification that in fact he DID attend a Muslim school (the public schools in Indonesia were like the community—women didn’t have to wear the veil, but…) seems like he was earlier being less than forthcoming. Even in liberal Islamic settings, women have a back of the bus status. I do NOT think Obama has been honest enough about this.
I think he’s sexist. Not just for the relentless bashing of Geraldine Ferraro, but for something really revealing in his speech last night, he ‘could not remember’ whether he’d had a conversation with his daughters about God. Well, if you’re in a 50’s throwback marriage where mommy is the main person interacting with the kids when they’re not in the expensive, enriching U of C daycare---then you perhaps are leaving a lot of that stuff to the wifey.
And perhaps that’s why Michelle (back when she let reporters cover her fund-raising) cut loose with the “ladies against women” style rant against Hilary (“How can she handle the White House when she ‘can’t manage’ her own house (sic).”)
The problem with sexism or any ‘ism’ is the elitism at its heart.
But there’s another reason why the Obamas must mature more before they’re at the top of the ticket.
They’ve let the newfound celebrity go to their heads.
Call it the ‘diva factor’.
Bonnie Raitt (you might remember she and Jackson Browne played a New Hampshire benefit for John Edwards’ superior approach—since adopted by Hilary Clinton—regarding nuclear power, greenhouse gases, and whatnot) chafed at being called a diva on a blues show last night. She said it reminded her of the old saw “Don’t look Miss Ross in the eye as she heads on stage.”
Barack Obama as diva.
Annie Oakley at least was a class act.


I don't need to call you an idiot, Bill, you do a good enough job of that yourself.

Posted by: Jeff | April 14, 2008 11:33 AM

You're as clever as you and your candidate are ignorant to real America. You support a candidate that lacks any substance of a way forward for America. His economic plans are nothing but generic fluff and you tout it as genious. You and he wish to use Americans patriotic feelings the same as Cheney and Bush...cause it worked for them. Don't blow smoke up our butts with all this rhetoric...give some detailed plans. For all those wishing to see McBushes "detailed" economic plan...just visit his website. Can any one say GENERIC?


You just blog and blog and pretend Hilary is your enemy.
She's not.
Posted by: Soujourner Truth | April 14, 2008 11:55 AM

I might blog and blog but it is evident you don't really read them. If you had read my post on a previous thread you would see that I said I lean towards Obama but would support Hillary. This was a point I was making where you cheerleaders of either Obama or Hillary need to see the bigger picture. On the issues, the democratic candidates are as similar as can be...the big difference is with the GOP. I find this bickering stupid with a capital S. If you truly support your candidates stand on the issues, how the hell can you not see the big picture?


Posted by: Soujourner Truth | April 14, 2008 11:55 AM


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ps....please find ONE POST where I have ever attacked or said anything against Hillary.


McCain makes values judgements about other Americans all the time.


McCain has judged Non-christian americans as unacceptable to be President.


McCain has judged that Homosexual americans cannot be good soldiers.


McCain is simply an elitist of a different stripe. He believes that straight Christians are an elite in this nation, and as a result he is as well.


Keep insulting the USA. You're doing one heckuva job.


Posted by: Jeff | April 14, 2008 11:52 AM

Thats good Jeff. Keep calling Americans, many like myself that have served in Nam, Un American. If you think fluff is what this country needs, you go right ahead and support fluff like you did with Bush. Hes done a heck of a job too. How people like you have the Package to call other Americans anything is beyond me. Keep dividing the country with your nasty rhetoric......you and Cheney would make a great couple.


According to reports on HuffingtonPost.com, in a private gathering of upscale donors to his campaign, sans reporters, Senator Obama was asked specifically about his failure to attract the support of large numbers of "white" voters in critical swing states like Pennsylvania, presumably in anticipation that, the answer to this question could provide talking points to supporters assembling in the commonwealth to work on the 22nd primary on his behalf. He responded that, being a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama, he was not able to convert these racist xenophobic unemployed gun-toting religious zealots to his side. (Or maybe they just weren't that into him.)

P.S. Senator McCain probably meant to say, "...safe for democracy..."


I suggest we all slurp up the fluff and rhetoric coming from McBush and supporters like Jeff so we can follow him as we did Cheney and Bush to near ruins. If you would rather hear real ideas, be prepared to be called an America hater. Thats the plan to divide an conquer, just ask Jeff.


Genius, Bill. McCain's plan for reversing the housing bust IS detailed. You just won't read it because your democrat blinders are on.
The McCain housing plan would allow certain homeowners whose houses are worth less than their mortgages to apply for assistance. Their lenders would agree to write off part of the loan. In return, the Federal Housing Administration would guarantee the new loan.
Experts say it could help up to 400,000 Americans keep their homes. How is that fluff? How is that generic? It's a HUGE leap from the debate going on in the administration right now about whether or not the federal government should provide any role.
CNN/Money and "Fortune" magazine have called McCain's healthcare plan the best of the three remaining candidates. It's the only plan that ties the cost of healthcare more closely to the people who use it (mostly the elderly). Unlike the Obama and Clinton plans it won't make the government responsible for insuring the exploding population of baby boomers retiring. How is that "generic?"
I know saying McCain doesn't have any plans is a talking point you're going to repeat until November, but I merely ask that you look at the plans before you launch your politically-motivated attacks.
I don't have all day to sit here and blog like you do, so this'll probably be my last post for awhile. I'll just end with it's funny that you accuse the one man who has gotten things done in Washington for 20 years of "blowing smoke up our butts" while you support the man who endorsed Todd Stroger and Rod Blagojevich and made Illinois the mess it is today. Even Blagojevich acknowledges his health plan for all Illinois children is flawed and the system that funds it is near bankruptcy. Not only does Obama not have a record of getting anything done in Washington, every indicator of his political background says he won't reach across the aisle to work with the Republicans or end the gridlock in congress. He may even not get along with the conservative wing of his own party, just like Blagojevich. But maybe that's what you want. Maybe you want a reverse Bush administration headed by a liberal. One question, though, how can an administration so horribly partisan POSSIBLY hope to fix the housing crisis, healthcare, end the war or do any of the things you say it can? Without an ironclad majority of 60 senators you know it can't.


Yes, Bill, we all know you served in 'Nam. It's what you've done since that I was talking about, particularly promoting Blagojevich/Obama/Rezko as the answer to all our problems nationally while ignoring the ones they've created locally like the good little Chicago Machine lackey that you are.


I really hope the Wingnuts try to play the "elitist" card..


McCain's Marriage Is Key To His Finances:


"Wife made millions in beer industry, keeps most assets in her name"


Sharon Theimer, Associated Press

Friday, April 4, 2008

(04-04) 04:00 PDT Washington --


"On a spring day last year at a speedway in the South, John McCain posed with his wife, Cindy, and racing star Dale Earnhardt Jr., highlighting the couple's political and business interests in a single snapshot".


"The Arizona senator served as honorary starter of the NASCAR race that weekend in Charlotte, N.C. Earnhardt drove the Budweiser car, painted military camouflage, rather than its trademark red, to honor the troops".


"Budweiser, then NASCAR's official beer, is brewed by Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc., whose products have made Cindy McCain and her family a fortune".


"The brewer sold toy replicas of its race car to aid the Special Operations Warrior Foundation and publicized its support for the group, on whose board John McCain served and whose chairman later endorsed him. The speedway appearance helped McCain court NASCAR voters, and his campaign circulated video of the event on the Internet".


"The McCains' marriage has mixed business and politics from the beginning, according to an expansive review by the Associated Press of thousands of pages of campaign, personal finance, real estate and property records nationwide. The paperwork chronicles the McCains' ascent from Arizona newlyweds to political power couple on the national stage".


"Worth $100 million-plus
As heiress to her father's stake in Hensley & Co. of Phoenix, Cindy McCain is an executive whose worth may exceed $100 million. Her beer earnings have afforded the GOP presidential nominee a wealthy lifestyle with a private jet and vacation homes at his disposal, and her connections helped him start his political career - even if the millions remain in her name alone. Yet the arm's-length distance between McCain and his wife's assets also has helped shield him from conflict-of-interest problems".


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/04/MNKRVVATR.DTL


The problem with Hillary and McCain trying to drown out Obama is that people know their own lives and believe me, someone who's been without a job for years knows he or she is bitter -- and angry. I doubt they want to be told they're not by the Clinton family who's income in the last seven years topped $100 million or from McCain who dumped his first wife and proceeded to get married into wealth (Cindy McCain) to farther his political carrer.
http://agonist.org/schecter/?p=8768


In a country in which people are wohlly judged by their wealth, McCain and Hillary are the FACE of "the elite." Obama not so much.


Jeff is the new Bruce. The McCain apologist.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gwqEneBKUs


It's what you've done since that I was talking about, particularly promoting Blagojevich/Obama/Rezko
Posted by: Jeff | April 14, 2008 1:11 PM

Thats all politics. I can bring up Keating and affairs if thats what it's all about.


Yes, Bill R., military experience has nothing to do with the ability to lead the country:
McCain's confidential military fitness reports, which were released to The LA Times by his campaign staff, judged him an "exceptional naval officer with an unlimited future" and "unequivocally recommend him for accelerated promotion to captain and major command." There's someone who's certainly qualified to address the problems of this nation and it's not the JUNIOR senators from Illinois and New York.
Keep insulting the USA. You're doing one heckuva job.


Posted by: Jeff | April 14, 2008 11:52 AM


Keep drinkin' the kool-aide, Jeff!


"McCain Lost Five Military Aircraft"


McCain, the "below par" pilot, eventually lost 5 military aircraft, the first during a training flight in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while trying to land. The Navy ignored the crash and graduated McCain in 1960.


While deployed in the Mediterranean, the hard partying McCain lost a second aircraft. Timberg described the crash: "Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."


Unscathed, McCain returned to Pensacola Station where he was promoted to flight instructor for Naval Air Station Meridian in Mississippi. The airfield at Meridian, McCain Field, was named in honor of McCain's grandfather.


Flight instructor McCain lost a third aircraft while flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. Timberg wrote that McCain radioed, "I've got a flameout" before ejecting at one thousand feet. McCain parachuted onto a beach moments before his plane slammed into a clump of trees.


The Navy dismissed the crash as "unavoidable" and assigned McCain to the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal in December 1966, which was patrolling the Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean. In Spring 1967, the Forrestal was assigned to join the Operation Rolling Thunder bombing campaign against North Vietnam.


McCain lost his fourth plane on board the Forrestal on July 29, 1967 when a rocket inadvertently slammed into his bomb laden jet. McCain escaped, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors. McCain was transferred from the badly damaged Forrestal to the USS Oriskany.


http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_unfit_2.htm


John McWar!!! Bomb, Bomb, Bomb. Bomb, Bomb elitist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gpVcB5vdMg&feature=related


It's what you've done since that I was talking about, particularly promoting Blagojevich/Obama/Rezko
Posted by: Jeff | April 14, 2008 1:11 PM

I see.. My service to America was fine with you...but since I support a candidate that is different than yours...I'm Un-American.

Divide and conquer!


You gotta admit, the picture is downright hilarious (Hillary-ous?). The crossed eyes are just wonderful.

Just watch - if HRC somehow nabs enough Superdelegates to get the nomination (which doesn't sound particularly likely, but whatever), that photo is going to show up somewhere in the general election.

Here's my question - do you mean to tell me that these are the best 2 candidates to represent the Democratic Party? Both have huge holes and blindspots, and neither have a legitimate shot at beating a moderate Republican like McCain. Obama's too liberal, and Hilary has too much baggage. And neither has been in the Senate for very long - both ascended to their respective positions in "power-grabs" that somehow, "magically" occurred when the opposition party had no legitimate candidate available to run.

The longer this goes on, the more obvious it becomes that McCain isn't trying to sell anyone anything - heck, I'm not even convinced that he's all that interested in being president. He's like the Saturn dealer, who quietly offers you a solid product, while BMW (Hillary) and Saab (Obama) throw stones and cast aspersions about each others' repair histories and reliability surveys. No, I won't be excited about that new Vue, but it beats the crap out of driving a Beamer that might just be as bad as the Saab dealer says it is.

How does the old saying go - you should always watch out for those who stive for political power - the best politician is the one who doesn't necessarily want the job, but reluctantly acknowledges that he's the right person for it. I'm not saying that's John McCain, but I am saying that Hillary and Obama are so hungry for the nomination that they'd eat their own young to get it (which in Hillary's case, is pretty close to the truth).


Read (or better yet listen to on CD to get the full effect) Obama's first book. In it he says:

"To avoid being mistaken for such a sellout, I chose my friends carefully: the more politically active black students, the foreign students, the Chicanos, the Marxist professors and structural feminists, and punk rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Frantz Fanon, Euro-centrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet, or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting Bourgeois society’s stifling constraints. We weren’t indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated."

Neocolonialism? Frantz Fanon? Euro-centrism? Patriarchy?

This guy is so much the stereotypical limousine liberal elitist.

Boo Hoo… Poor B.O. living such a rough life in 1974 at Occidental College. By they way, 2007 tuition at Occidental College, $35,373; with room and boar another $9,500 (the room were he deemed it appropriate to "ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet").

This is a far cry from $181 per credit hour at Honolulu Community College.

I am hoping the only change he will be worried about after November 4 is if the 7-Eleven clerk can make change for a $100 bill when he picks up a pack of smokes.

It's all about making change…


Jeff,
Did McCain ever and RECENTLY endorse the AZ Congressman who was indicted, MR. RICK RENZI??????


Bill, what Obama said was that small town Pennsylvanians "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment" out of frustration. Whether you like it or not he's making a values judgement on why these people like guns, religion and are against free trade and illegal immigration. He's not even considering that one might not have anything to do with the other. The argument goes right to values.

I don't need to call you an idiot, Bill, you do a good enough job of that yourself.

Posted by: Jeff | April 14, 2008 11:33 AM


Actually, what he said was that in "some of" these small towns, this happens. He did not make a comment about all small town Pennsylvanians. He made a comment about "some."

Are you suggesting that there are "none" who fit Obama's comments?


Once again, Americans seem unable to handle the truth about themselves and want to shoot the messenger. A lot of us are bitter about certain government policies that have brought us to this low level we are at right now. While we are not all clinging to guns & religion, we are not very satisfied with the state of the union. I am enjoying the Obama bashing because he is showing that he can handle all the negativity that is thrown at him. What have YOU done to make your country a better place?


Bill/Jeff,

Unfortunately, Obama is going to inherit a disaster domestically and internationally. He is going to have more of a mess to fix than any recent president. That is why he will also get the 60 majority needed come November. A huge majority in the House and Senate and a chance to appoint 3 new SC justices. I suggest you get used to the complete reversal of the government we've experienced for the last 8 years. It's going to happen.


"Bitters for Barack!"


Not if the electorate has anything to say about it, Bubba.
Bill, it's not that you support a candidate that's different than mine, it's that you support one so blindly. You know that Obama hasn't been vetted and has the potential to be a disaster for the democrats in April. I feel as strongly as I do about McCain because I supported him 8 years ago and know that he can bridge the partisan divide based on his experience working with democrats. I supported him in the primaries when it was unpopular and had knock down drag out debates with Jerry White and Bruce because I believe going to the center is the only way to make our government work again. Do you really think it was easy for us to defeat Mitt Romney and the talk radio machine that was behind him? I support McCain now because I honestly believe he's the only one of the three remaining candidates that can end the partisan mess in Washington.
You and Bubba freely admit you want to keep the partisanship going. You just want your side presiding over the mess. It won't help your party and it won't help mine and it won't help the American people. But you're doing it anyway because it's what the Chicago democratic machine tells you to do. Sorry, pal, that's not what America needs.
P.S. Erica, "some," are you kidding me? Do you expect Obama to outline which small town Pennsylvanians are bitter and which aren't? C'mon, qualifying his comments with "some" doesn't make them any better if you love in one of those small towns.
p.p.s. Bill, since you're a Vietnam vet I expect you'll have the same problem with your pet, John E., citing "Vietnam Veterans Against McCain." We both know that that organization is a political crusade started and run purely by one man. Will you denounce them the way that John McCain denounced the "Swift Boat Veterans Against Kerry?" Or will you stand idly by while someone who never served, John E, denigrates a fellow veteran with lies?


Bill, it's not that you support a candidate that's different than mine, it's that you support one so blindly.
Posted by: Jeff | April 14, 2008 3:32 PM

Please Jeff...that is weak an argument as anything. Blindly? Again whether you agree with my choice, I have not made it blindly. No more than your choice. Yet again...I don't question your sanity or your patriotism.


All political argument aside, I believe Jill meant to quote Senator McCain as saying "These are the people who produced a generation that made the world safe FOR democracy" as opposed to "from democracy."


Americans have every right to be bitter about how our elected leaders have been running our country for the last 8 years! Can we say that our country is truly better off now that it was 8 years ago? If any CEO ran the cuntry like GWB has he would have been fired a long time ago! Bitter? You bet we should all be bitter!!!


Actually, I don't think this is a fluff piece. They repeatedly gave McCain a chance to go low, and he took a (slightly) higher road.

Now contrast that with what Hillary has tried to do with it. And if you think that it's all just politics, just try to think forward to a general election. How uncomfortable will it get if/when the Billary attack machine goes after McCain's war record? I think most of us were disgusted by the Swift Boat garbage in '04 - can she even control the attack machine at this point?


How do I know you haven't made it blindly? Everything you suggest in your posts says that any criticism of Obama is either stupid or racist. And then you attack us for saying that some of the things he and his wife say are an unamerican and that supporting them is unamerican. Here's news, Bill, they are!
You STILL won't condemn John E for shamelessly attacking a veteran with lies about his service. Why not? He's attacking you and every other Vietnam Vet when he falsely denigrates McCain. How could overlooking such a personal attack be anything BUT blind faith?
Every 50-state national poll I've seen says that I should be rooting for Obama because places like Pennsylvania and Minnesota would go red if he's nominated. But you know what? I don't want to take that chance. This guy has made a mess of Illinois and you know it. The tax hikes that came directly from people he endorsed are going to stifle our local economy for years. On top of that he's done nothing to distinguish himself as our senator. He hasn't served his constituents effectively and I do honestly think McCain would destroy him in November.
I'm not telling you or anyone else in your party what to do but the more you allow the radical left to take over your party the more it's going to drive away voters like me who would consider voting for you guys and drive them into the arms of republican moderates like McCain. Maybe you don't care about that, but I never thought of you as an unreasonable, far-left person like the John Es of this blog.


I would like to express my opinion about the democratic party's presidential candidates and the wide spread corruption thats going on within the Democratic Party.

Both candidates: Hillary Clinton & Barach Oboma have been and are continuing to provide payoffs to the super delagates.The payoffs total over several hundreds of thousands of dollars.The imediate question is where did they get all that money from and is it legal?

Now both of them are actvely campaining
and spending money as if they had a never ending supply. The stupidest part of this is that they do.

Including with the campaign funds supplied by the Federal Govt.both have received unreported/undisclosed sums from George Soras who may be the master mind of this wierd scheme.

So what is George getting for his money and free advice? Who knows, will Hillary, Obomma or even Bill admit to this alliance with George or will we have to stay tuned to find out the result of in the next episode of "the dirtiest and slime filled politicial corruption that could possibly be imagined".

George Wasington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln and other great presidents are probaly rolling over in their graves right now, all wondering what happened to their country and how we allowed it to.


Once again, Americans seem unable to handle the truth about themselves and want to shoot the messenger.

I am enjoying the Obama bashing because he is showing that he can handle all the negativity that is thrown at him. What have YOU done to make your country a better place?

Posted by: Phillip Banks | April 14, 2008 2:30 PM


Good comment Phillip. I couldn't agree more. The American people (the FAR right in partucular) seem to have a very hard time coming to grips with what our government has done. I think we are a good and honest people, but our leaders like that pack of crimminals who currently prowl the White House often engage in very corrupt acts. Don't shoot the messenger folks, change the message. Obama 2008


Senator John McCain has retreated from his longtime commitment to public financing of campaigns since he started planning his 2008 bid for the presidency, according to nonpartisan advocates who had hoped McCain would be a strong voice for reform during the most expensive presidential campaign in history.

McCain, who angered conservatives when he coauthored a bipartisan law aimed at taking big money out of politics, in 2003 cosponsored legislation to expand the federal matching system to help fund presidential campaigns, but failed to add his name to similar measures in 2006 and 2007. And while McCain once supported a law in his home state of Arizona providing full public financing of campaigns, he now says he opposes that idea at the federal level.


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/30/mccains_commitment_to_public_financing_questioned/


McCain vs McCain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI


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