Media created 'delusion' Clinton can win?

Was Matthews' leg tingling due to his proximity to the Obamessiah at the time he made those comments?

Clinton had a 20% lead in Pa just two weeks ago and she owns the inner political workings of that state, mayors, gov etc.

The 9% win for her last night is terrible, she's done.

Mathews is an unabashed Obama supporter. Of course he is going to say that. While a win for Clinton will be hard it is not out of the question. If Florida is included she can win. IF not than she probably can not. Until that issue is resolved its not impossible. Obama supporters like Mathews and Olberman operate under the assumption that Florida and Michigan dont count. WHile Michigan looks like it wont. Florida is trying very hard to make it happen. If you add in Floridas vote Hillary has closed the popular vote difference. After all the party that complained about Bush not being a real president due to losing the popular vote to Gore now is going to give the nom to someone who doesnt win the popular vote? That is very hipocritical. If Hillary wins the popular vote she should be the nominee. If Obama wins the popular vote than he should win. It really is that simple. Also neither one can win the nom w/out help of the superdelegates. Also isnt this about the will of the people. Obviuosly the will of the people doesnt want this to be over. If they did Obama wouldnt be losing all the primaries this late.

Yes. She can't win. Before yesterday, she needed 66% of the remaining delegates to win the nomination. Now she needs 71% of the remaining delegates.

She actually lost ground with that "big" single-digit (down from nearly 25%) win.

She MUST win both Indiana and North Carolina or she's done.

And she's done.

It may be impossible for Clinton to catch Obama in the delegates race. However, the Super Delegates must understand their role is to choose the best candidate to win in November, not who they think is the best Democratic nominee.

So Billary will need to win 2 "little States" coming up? Hmm....why should she cater to little states?

If she loses, which I think she can still pitch a fit and steal this thing, but if she loses, she will take her ball and go home like a spoiled 5 year old and leave the Dem party completely shredded going into November. Then she'll say "I told you so" and try to run again in 4 years - unless Chelsea Clinton is priming for a run. How ridiculously selfish.

Oh Jeff,
You're just jealous because McCain has been a public figure for years and hasn't moved on from Public Speaking 101 while Obama has already graduated a Jedi Master in the fine art of public speaking.

If they did Obama wouldnt be losing all the primaries this late.

Posted by: Vinny | April 23, 2008 2:03 PM

He has won 2 of the last 3 primaries (Wyoming, Mississippi, Pennsylvania) so your statement in itself is factually wrong and shows a bias.

A win is a win and Sen Obama is winning 30-15. PA is Clinton country, but now we are returning to Obama country. IN and KY will be a fight, but NC, ID, MT, OR are all in regions that have gone strongly for Sen Obama. Things dont look good for Sen Clinton by any assessment that is based in reality.

I dont blame her for running through the final primary in June (i would too), but the writing has been on the wall since March 4th.

Here come the Clinton supporters.
I'm not casting opinions, only relating facts.
Clinton is still behind, according to the best case estimates, by 150 pledged delegates. Hillary will still probably net more after the final counting.
Indiana and NC total 188 delegates. 30 more than Pennsylvania by itself. The difference is that NC has 37 more delegates than Indiana. Right now Obama has a solid 15 point lead in NC and Indiana is leaning to Clinton, but within the statistical error.
Hillary will probably lose all of the ground she made up last night on may 5th. After that the lead will be the same and she won't be able to catch up without about 80% of all delegates, including the super delegates.
That being the case, will the Democratic leadership select a potential George McGovern, as Hillary would like to portray Obama, or do they nominate Hillary and run the risk of alienating all of the new Democrat registrants that Obama brought in?

It may be impossible for Clinton to catch Obama in the delegates race. However, the Super Delegates must understand their role is to choose the best candidate to win in November, not who they think is the best Democratic nominee.

Posted by: James | April 23, 2008 2:12 PM

James.. and how exactly do you tell the candidate who ran the better campaign. Who won more delegates (that was the point of the campaign after all). That the other gal, who ran a horrible, discombobulated, stupid campaign in the primaries and effectively lost.. that she still has the better chance in the General?

You don't. that's how.

The theory that someone who got thouroughly outmaneuvered and outcampaigned in the primary... and lost... is somehow the better option in the General is dam near re tarded.

Y'all Hillary supporters are crying "a win's a win!" today with regards to the Pennsylvania primary, but refuse to acknowledge that in the overall thing...

????

Billary CANNOT mathematically win this barring some catastrophe that causes Obama to drop out. Even if she wins EVERY remaining contest by 10% PLUS gets a 55% - 45% split of the remaining undeclared SUPERdelegates, she STILL CANNOT mathematically win. The media are helping to keep this going because they NEED a "horserace' to attract viewership.

It's Obama vs. McCain.

McCain wins.

One big fact has largely been lost in the recent coverage of the Democratic presidential race: Hillary Rodham Clinton has virtually no chance of winning.

Her own campaign acknowledges there is no way that she will finish ahead in pledged delegates. That means the only way she wins is if Democratic superdelegates are ready to risk a backlash of historic proportions from the party’s most reliable constituency.

Unless Clinton is able to at least win the primary popular vote — which also would take nothing less than an electoral miracle — and use that achievement to pressure superdelegates, she has only one scenario for victory. An African-American opponent and his backers would be told that, even though he won the contest with voters, the prize is going to someone else.

People who think that scenario is even remotely likely are living on another planet.

Continued at:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9149.html

go to a website like tradesports, and you will see that people that are betting think that obama has an 80% of winning (you can bet $80 to win $100). if matthews is so sure that obama is a lock he should mortage his house and fly to las vegas or london to bet big on obama to beat hillary.

We continue with errors in math. Clinton won by 9% not 10, as reported by the media. The media has fed this Clinton machine. It has helped create the delusion and is itself unwilling to report that which is accurate. Matthews and a few others are speaking it as it is. If the Dems lose the race to the White House it will be in large part due to the media.

Forget about pledged delgates it is the popular vote. Whoever wins the popular vote will have the strongest argument to make to the superdelegates. DUHHH!!!

All of this is a smokescreen. They are going to take it from Barack. I think he already knows.

All of this is a smokescreen. They are going to take it from Barack. I think he already knows.

Posted by: Keith Lifetime Southsider | April 23, 2008 5:40 PM

Yep, they are. African Americans will get another harsh reminder that they are still second class citizens in this country. An African American will have the greatest number of votes and the greatest number of delegates, but the white person will get the nomination. Sent to the back of the bus yet again.

the Super Delegates must understand their role is to choose the best candidate to win in November, not who they think is the best Democratic nominee.

Posted by: James | April 23, 2008 2:12 PM

James, your distrust of the American people to think there is a difference is why Dems have been losing all of these years.

If you build a good campaign, they will come. The best candidate will build a good campaign. The worse will make the poor choices Hillary has repeatedly made since marrying Bill.