Obama: 'Underdog' still, from Iowa to Pa.: The Swamp
The Swamp
Posted April 19, 2008 9:30 AM
The Swamp

by Josh Drobnyk

For a candidate who leads the delegate count in the bid for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama has cast himself in an interesting role heading into a long-anticipated and hard-fought primary vote in Pennsylvania on Tuesday.

Obama gave his first full-fledged public speech in Philadelphia last night, addressing an outdoor audience of tens of thousands on Independence Mall. And he slipped in a line that seemed out of place, but was clearly aimed at the expectations-setters over the next few days.

"We began this race as the underdog, and we're still the underdog here in Pennsylvania," he said.

That will likely be repeated over and over this weekend by Obama as he makes a furious final run at the state. Hillary Clinton's campaign is countering the argument by highlighting Obama's nearly 3-to-1 TV spending advantage.

Gov. Ed Rendell, backing Clinton, is working at some expectation-setting of his own. "Anywhere from 7 to 13 [points] is pretty impressive," Rendell said about a possible margin of victory for Clinton in Pennsylania.

Still, other surrogates are trying to argue that a win is a win. State Democratic Chairman T.J. Rooney, a Clinton backer, has been fond of saying that a one-vote margin would be a great victory for the New York senator.

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He is the underdog in Pennsylvania... not too long ago he was 20 points behind Clinton. It is hard to believe, but there are people in Pennsylvania that don't even know that there is this guy named Obama running for President of the United States "by golly."


Obama is the underdog all the way to the finish line. The Clinton Machine keeps on rolling and will use anything in its quiver to strike out at Obama.

There is nothing scarier than a frantic, desperate HRC. That is one person and one family that you don't take for granted.

Obama must fight his best fight all the way to the Presidential nomination in November and we must do all we can to support him.


obama and clinton are unelectable......look at the polls.....the super delegates need to draft al gore for victory in 2008!!!!!!!!


Obama likes to pretend questions that cut to the core of his character, judgment and credibility don't matter. He's dead wrong. Obama is the great pretender and a first-rate con man who will, thankfully, be defeated by intelligent, decent Americans everywhere. This guy is bad, bad news.


Obama is the underdog. Clinton has national name recognition (8 years in the White House will give you that) and she has the PA political machinery backing her.

So yes, Obama has the spend 3-to-1 to make any headway against all that.


It really doesn't matter the Clintons won't give up no matter what the results are and they will claim victory no matter what happens. The have an amazing ablity to ignor the facts and stay on message. If Ayles the weather underground guy is so bad why didn't the gov. press charges? Is not that the bigger issue here if this guy is so awful.


All the major candidates lack integrity. Plz back a third party. McCain is the worst, derailing all efforts by Vietnam Veteran families to open the POW/MIA files. He even killed a legislative attempt to open the files, The Truth Bill, with The McCain Bill.

See the evil treatment McCain has shown these families and why his reputation as a straight talker is all a big lie:

www.VietnamVeteransAgainstJohnMccain.com/cin_secretworldofmccain.htm

VietnamVeteransAgainstJohnMccain . com/cin_secretworldofmccain.htm


I think at this point in time we all have our candidate and we are dug in. I too heard Rush Limbaugh tell his audience yesterday that the Dems are in serious trouble. He said neither Clinton nor Obama are electable and they need to bring in Al Gore. Now the fact that Rush Limbaugh is "concerned" about the Dems is a clear signal that they fear Obama. Nice try Rush! The poster that said that is definately a GOPer. I listen to Rush so I can identify his ditto heads. they are amonst us. lol lol


Why would anyone want a loser like Al Gore to lose again. If the bitch Hillary would just get out Obama could focus on McCain. As long a she stays in he cannot do that. If Obama fails then its Hillarys fault and she and that husband of hers can rot in hell where they belong,


Yeah, true that. You guys are in seriously bad shape. I mean, it's the same old story. Back in 04 all you people had to do was come up with a half-decent candidate and old Bush should've been blown down like a house of cards. But instead, you draft John Kerry, a candidate who fit the impossible bill of a person actually more awkard and less likeable and than Bush. And now you're at it again, and the best you can come up with this time is some rookie senator whose eloquent yet idealistic speeches are totally bereft of any real solutions and who also happens to be part of a minority which has yet to attain true equality in this country, and some rabid she-pitbull who's been around for decades and who nobody really ever liked, who will say anything to please anybody who might aid in satisfying her blatantly obvious lust for power, and who understands absolutely nothing about the implications of the policies she supports. You really know how to pick 'em. Just try to do a better job in 2012 when you try to oust mccain (if he doesn't die before than :P)


However, "wm musson," al gore is just pretending to support 'going green' while he lives in a huge mansion-like house powered by good 'ole coal and nuclear energy.
Obama seems more trustworthy, so i am definitely going to vote for him to be the democratic candidate for 2008.


THE RACIST THEOLOGY OF OBAMA''S CHURCH:
The “theology” that Wright teaches at his church is nothing like Christianity as most people understand it. The brand of theology which Wright has been teaching Obama and the others at his church is called “black liberation theology.” Wright admits this and it is stated on the church's website. Black theology is based upon the premise of the white oppressor against the black oppressed. This is why, for example, that Wright refers to Jesus as black, and his killers as white. This is the only way the story of Jesus fits within this brand of “theology.” Rev. Wright cites James Cone, another proponent of black liberation theology, as his theological inspiration. Here are just a couple of James Cone's quotes: (1) “To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." (2) "While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." (3) "All white men are responsible for white oppression." (4) "Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." (5) "If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." (6) “Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.” *** These statements, and this “theology,” are fundamentally racist and divisive. The fact that Obama has chosen to belong to this racist church for 20 years speaks volumes about his character and judgment, and flies in the face of his pronouncements about his ability and intent to “unite” this country.


The Clinton establishment has a history of blatant disregard for every group they have ever been a part of. They nearly destroyed the democratic party in the 90's. Bill nearly decapitated the military during his stint as the HEAD of state. Arkansas was reeling after the Clinton Clan left. They always walk away smelling like roses and everyone around them is left in shambles. The question is: How for will Hillary and the Clinton elites go in this futile process? How badly are they willing to damage the Democratic party this time? Would they flush the entire country down the toilet to claim their own personal victory? Probably so.
When you are facing this kind of calculating ruthlessness and "win at all costs" machinery, how can you not be the underdog? If it takes 3 to 1 spending to cleanse this country of the Clinton cancer, Where's my checkbook?


You people really think your vote counts, what a pathetic bunch of brain washed robots.


For all those who think that McCain is ahead in the National race just wait until Clinton drops out and see how he start to dominate McCain. Obama will run circles around McCain, there's probably a 30 maybe even 40 point difference in IQ between the two.


I still don't know what most fear and dislike Hillary so much. Is it because she is so assertive? Do men feel threatened by her strength? That's pure insecurity. What is all this sexism going on? Shame on American men. And the women??? Just because she stood by her husband... I thought they were supposed to uphold the sanctity of marriage no matter what. Stop looking at personal issues and look and how well they will perform their jobs. I support both Obama and Hillary. As a Democrat I am dumbfounded by other democrats dissent on the best Democrat President in ages... what's up with that? Since when the Clinton years were so bad. Did the Rep. machine convert you all? Wake up!!! And stop the sexism. Don't be threatened by strong women.


Will that man stop at nothing to get elected? Is any spin beyond his reach? How long can this go on? His egomania is way past silly season.


doesn't ANYONE remember how great our country prospered during the Clinton admin.?? He got the National Debt down to zero! Gas was under $3! there were plenty of jobs, economy was soaring an no "off-shore outsourcing" sending companies to foreign countries? IT'S A "NO BRAINER" people!! Bring back a Clinton!! Obama is nothing but 'THE MUSIC MAN" a great talker...fires up the country...but doesn't know how to do anything....


Obama is the underdog in a General Election. And Big Time. Why? Because middle Americans, as well as many other Americans are not buying into the Wright controversy. It insulted America and Americans. It would not matter if he were just another church member, but he is not, he is running for President to represent America and all Americans. When combined with his lack of experience, and his "unity" rhetoric, he loses and in a big way to McCain. Pennsylvania is as close to middle America as any state in America. Luckily, they understand Clinton truly represents all Americans and will fight for all Americans, and has the experience to fix the economy, bring home our troops, and has a great health care plan . Yes, they will vote for Senator Clinton. Go Pennsylvania, put Hillary in the White House! We need you!


America loves an underdog alright, but Obama has used as many "Washington as usual" tactic as anyone except for the fundraising which has been exploited as well. (not the first one to do this) yeeeeeehaaaaaa !!
Obama has climbed up the backs of the Clintons who have made this party what it is today. They are singlehandedly responsible for all the good things said about the Dems. (the 90's, it's the economy stupid) and are still relevant today."Hiliary invented Healthcare" !! "Obama's the devil" !!


Obama is a dangerous, dangerous person. Anyone who can smooth talk their way into votes without people even knowing ANYTHING about what that candidate has done for this country or even why they are even voting for him (except his pretty speeches) is beyond me.

If a white candidate said the things Obama or his "spiritual advisers" have said- they would have been kicked out already.

America is in for some big problems if Obama gets the nomination.


@ mr. chadwick

If you would keep up on that story, after Al Gore bought that mansion, he remodeled it to be totally green.


HOW CAN WE TRUST SOMEONE WE DONT KNOW?


I have never read any comments any more venemous than many of those on this site. I must hope that the majority are Rush supporters weighing in on the Democratic primaries. If these comments in fact come from memeber of the Democratic Party I need to move to Bolivia because all or you are really sick. I was listening to Rush 10 years ago the Clintons scared him then and he is still scared of them today. I don't care who wins this presidential election I am just looking forward to making some progress in this country. Both parties are freightening, neither are willing to make the tough decisions about illegal aliens, taxes, the deficit, and world wide trade.


Amen, Fred Jones. Black Racist Theology - "The fact that Obama has chosen to belong to this racist church for 20 years speaks volumes about his character and judgment, and flies in the face of his pronouncements about his ability and intent to “unite” this country."


THE REAL DEAL IN CHAPEL HILL DEBATE

I heard that Obama is actually going to call for a final debate tomorrow that will be held before the North Carolina/Indiana Primary. I heard he is going to call it the REAL DEAL IN CHAPEL HILL and that he will not take umbrage to any personal questions, as long as for every personal question, they in turn ask a policy question.

I heard he is even going to hand a fig leaf to Sen. Clinton and say she doesn't have to answer any personal questions and only join in on the policy questions. It sounds like a real Rocky Moment if it is true.

IS THIS TRUE SWAMP?

Interested Voter


I support obama. The math is strongly against Hillary. I used to think let her stay in until the last primary but these primaries are sucking up a lot of money and the ammunition for McCain keeps piling up. I would much rather him be vetted by a republican he can fight with out pulling punches rather than another democrat. I think I saw McCain on Hillary's buddy list. At this point the only way she can win is by some political magic trick, not because she has the support of the people. PA will be won by only 5 or less % and close does counts in horse shoes hand grenades and democratic primaries. A win is a win? Apparently somebody didn't tell these people that the delegates are split proportionately? Even if she won every contest left she has to win by a margin she only got in one state - Arkansas. And this argument that she can carry the big states? That's a joke. The real issue is style. They agree 90% of the time.


If Hil-liar-y is so electable why are Bill's staff members supporting Obama? HRC needs to pack her bags and head for the hills, maybe she'll be supported by the wild life where she is in her own element.

We will, we will Barack-On!


Looks like the HRC staff is doing overtime sending in all these messages. Go home you need a nap because you are clearly misspoken again.


As a white 72 year old woman, I have been for Obama since I read his books. The venomous rhetoric attacking him certainly gives credence to "the same old politics". I long for the day when we as a nation really want to unite for the benefit of all.


I am an Independent. BOTH parties have sold out the AMERICAN CITIZEN and now represent big business. I will be voting "None of the above" in November.

Having said that, why does ANYONE think that Hills can win when she already lost months ago? It is mathematically impossible for her to win the popular vote. Therefore, the only way is for the super delegates to ignore the people and elect her.

Does anyone really think the DEMS actually have the nuts to do this? Does anyone think they will stiff a black like that over a white? If the roles were reversed, definitely. But not like this.

The whole thing has been damn curious to say the least.


Now he's the underdog ? Is there anything he won't say to get a vote?
I am truly ashamed I ever voted for him, and unlike Obama, I have integrity and won't make that mistake again.
When the only thing left for his supporters to say about him is that Hillary is no good, or he delivers a good speech, It's time for Obama to leave.
If this is the best of the Democratic party, we are a party that will not exist for much longer.


Obama IS the underdog, because he is still being attacked not only by the Republicans, but by a spiteful, egotistical machine politician, Hillary Clinton (supposedly of his own party). She is doing McCain's dirty work, and ruining any chance of a Democrat in the White House.

Hillary REALLY needs to exit with whatever grace she might be able to muster.


well said Smart Spender. People just don't realize the level of criminality the Clinton's have sunk to over their political careers. Bill Clinton was a rapist and a drug smugglers shill as Governor of Arkansas. Hilly was a land investment and commodities trading swindler, and they were BOTH as radically ANTI police and military as any two ex hippie socialists I've ever even heard of.


And when they blundered into the White House gig they upped their game to include campaign fraud, money laundering, and outright treason (Chinagate). They intimidated witnesses, pardoned convicted cronies and henchmen who could have incriminated them, and had the ones they couldn't control eliminated outright (ala Ron Brown, Vince Foster, etc.)


What's really amazing is that The Starr commission could only come up with a stained dress (Monika's). and at a cost of $42 Million. If that isn't incompetence I don't know what is


And now everybody wants Obama to take Hilly as a running mate, but to do so would be to sign his own death warrant. Hilly wants to be PRESIDENT, not Vice President.


And if Barack Obama should "Commit suicide" (like so many of the previous Clinton associates, over 40 of them in all, who mostly died of gunshot wounds to the back of the head, or shotgun blasts to the face), that would leave Hilly right where she wants to be.


I honestly don't believe that most people truly understand what a precarious position we have all been placed in by allowing the Clinton's to get a "Foot in the door" of the white house (AGAIN). If that woman gets even CLOSE we're all of us very very deep trouble.


As an actual thinking individual who looks at the issues and at the candidates, I would not vote for Obama if someone offered me a million bucks. I love my country and that man is an evil, anti-American jerk. I don't understand how people keep forgiving his racist crap.

I am a life long democrat but am now considering Mc Cain. While I don't agree with a lot of his policies, I believe him to be an honorable man.


Obama is the trojan horse for hard-left hate in America. Nothing more.


Check out youtube type in Obama flip off Clinton if you dare! Obama is the underdog and will never be anything else.Obama is a disgrace to the United States he should Quit !!!!!!!!!!! During his speech this week in front of a big crowd he says Clintons name and flips her off !! Then there are all the shady people he is friends with Rev. Wright, Rezko, Ayers, Farrakhan and I am sure there are more. I would like to know how the democratic party can still back him they should make him quit!!! NOBAMA


To Brigitte...

Sometimes it is better to go with the unknown rather than with the known. For the known makes bad decisions that costs lives.


Hillary's gender has nothing to do with the strong negatives she emits from voters; she is a poor candidate, who is mediocre at best, with minimal experience, and an ego larger than Alaska. She is a negative, spiteful person who just brings out the worst in people. There are several women we would love to support, and who have earned our support, but Hillary is not one of them.

Obama may lack experience and he is a risk, but people like him for the most part. Hillary is a known liability, and over half of the nation cannot stand her. She is NOT her husband, Roy.

"I still don't know what most fear and dislike Hillary so much. Is it because she is so assertive? Do men feel threatened by her strength? That's pure insecurity. What is all this sexism going on? Shame on American men. And the women??? Just because she stood by her husband... I thought they were supposed to uphold the sanctity of marriage no matter what. Stop looking at personal issues and look and how well they will perform their jobs. I support both Obama and Hillary. As a Democrat I am dumbfounded by other democrats dissent on the best Democrat President in ages... what's up with that? Since when the Clinton years were so bad. Did the Rep. machine convert you all? Wake up!!! And stop the sexism. Don't be threatened by strong women."


You are all nuts. HRC is the only chance we have in November. BHO is unelectable the Repubs will never let go, it will get ugly and BHO will whine. VOTE HRC... I predict between 5 and 10% victory for our girl.


He ain't the underdog. Has never been. He has liberals on his side and they have helped him get through college. He had the brains to know how to play the game and even get elected in a state like Illinois which still has racial bias with sundown towns in its bible belt. This is not an underdog.



Obama is and isn't the underdog.

Yes the Clintons and the Democratic pols in Pennsylvania oppose him, and they are formidable.

But stronger still are the people. 1.3 million have contributed cash to Obama, averaging a little over $100 a head.

Obama has the people, and the people will elect him President.


It's absurd for Obama to cast himself as the "underdog" when he has outspent Clinton 3 or 4 to 1 in ads (many negative) in PA as well as every other state (OH, TX). That he still cannot close the deal despite all that $$$ speaks volumes.


LOL! You better keep the light on and look under your bed too!


"I honestly don't believe that most people truly understand what a precarious position we have all been placed in by allowing the Clinton's to get a "Foot in the door" of the white house (AGAIN). If that woman gets even CLOSE we're all of us very very deep trouble.

Posted by: Jim Griffin | April 19, 2008 12:32 PM "

Please give my regards to the rest of your brood.....
Brian, Lois, Peter, Stewie, Chris, and Meg


It's telling that every hateful, anti-American group/individual loves Obama. Move On, Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, The New Black Panthers Party, Bill Ayers. Vote Hate in '08. Obama.


julescator listens to Rush Limbaugh to identify his Didiots.

I supose somebody should, but to me it's a waste of time. Rush, Hannity, and all the lesser wannabes on talk radio have little use for McCain. But they lack the clout to nominate somebody they like or fully trust.

Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney, Guliani; they were too weak to deliver. "Oh, Huckabee messed us up", they whine. If Mike Huckabee can stop you, how lame is that?

Rush and the others have been living fat and happy in the aura of a President who has been gone for 20 years. They are about to detox from their psychadelic trip to Reaganland.

And rehab can get ugly...


ok ...wow....now there's someone... I want to depend on!


I CAN'T BELIEVE THE UNDER EDUCATED ABILITY AT COMMON SENSE PRECEDED THE DIRECT COMMENT OF TOM C ON A EARLIER STATEMENT. HOW CAN ONE EVEN TALK ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF ANYONE WHEN BACKING THE LIKES OF HRC? SHE OUT RIGHT NOT JUST LIED TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, BUT MADE UP A HOLLYWOOD STORY AND TRY TO SELL THAT TO CAPTURE THE MOST IMPORTANT SEAT IN THE WORLD. IF SHE IS DOING THIS NOW IMAGINE LATER. IF SHE GETS AWAY WITH NOT JUST LYING BUT BEING DELUSIONAL AND IS ALLOWED TO TAKE PRESIDENCY WHAT DOES THAT SAY OF ALL OF US IN THIS COUNTRY? WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO THE WORLD? ESPECIAL COMING OUT OF THESE LAST 8 YEARS WE ENDURED. ITS IMPORTANT FOR A CHANGE, YES. WE HAVE THE OPTION TO NOT JUST MAKE HISTORY, BUT THE KIND WE CAN BE PROUD OF. THIS IS NOT A QUESTION OF A BIRACIAL MAN OR A 1ST WOMAN IN OFFICE. THE HISTORY BEING MADE IS WAY BIGGER THEN THAT. IT'S HOW WE RELATE TO THE WORLD AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE. IT'S HOW WE ESTABLISH OURSELF IN THE RELATIONSHIPS WE HAVE AND WILL BUILD WITH DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND WHERE AND HOW WE ASSERT OURSELVES. I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF THE PEOPLE RUNNING, HOWEVER ONE WHO BELITTLES MY COUNTRIES INTELEGENCE WITH THERE PERSONAL HOLLYWOOD LIKE DELUSION IS NOT THE RIGHT COURSE. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS IN A FORMER CLITON ADMINASTRATION. WE AMERICANS APPRECIATE ALL THE GOOD THINGS PRESIDENT CLITON HAS DONE, BUT FEEL THE NEED TO PROSPER USING TRUTH AS A SEED. WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT LIES BRING AND WHERE IT WILL PUT US ALL. IT'S NOT FACT THAT WE'RE ALL HUMAN AND MAKE MISTAKES. BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL HAVE FALTERED AT SOME POINT.BUT THERE IS A LINE BETWEEN OUT RIGHT DECEPTION AND LIES ON SUCH A LEVEL OF MAKE BELIEVE, AND GETTING SITUATIONS SLIGHTLY CROSSED. SEE WE ALL KNOW TO MISSPEAK (WHICH IS A NEW DECEPTION TO COVER FOR THE OTHER CAUSE IT'S CALLED LYING) WOULD BE TAKING A CERTAIN SITUATION THAT DID HAPPEN AND POSSIBLE FORGET WHERE IT HAPPEN, BUT NONE THE LESS HAPPEN. HOWEVER THAT WOULD STILL BE A LIE. NOT TO MENTION A SITUATION OF THAT TRAUMATIC MAGNITUDE WOULD DEFINITELY BE REMEMBERED. UNLESS IT'S AN EVERYDAY OCCURRENCE WHICH WOULDN'T BE THE CASE BY ANY MEANS FOR THE FORMER 1ST LADY. ALOT OF US LIKE BILL AND HIS WIFE SENATOR CLINTON, HOWEVER THE JOB OF GETTING US TO WHERE WE ALL NEED TO GO FOR THE SAKE OF OURSELVES AND OUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN NEED US, WE THE PEOPLE. AMERICA USE YOUR PARENTAL INSTINCTS. YOU WOULDN'T LEAVE YOUR CHILD IN THE HAND OF SOMEONE OR FAMILY WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN PROVEN THROUGH THEY'RE OWN PUBLIC ACTIONS NOT HAVE THE ABILITY OF TRUTH WHICH IS THE PARAMOUNT MORAL OF TRUST. YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO LEAVE A CHILD IN A UNCOMPROMISING POSITION NOR YOURSELF. BECAUSE THIS DECISIONS IS NOT JUST FOR OURSELVES BUT FOR OUR CHILD AS WELL. THE OTHER TWO CANDIDATES TO THIS POINT HAVEN'T PERSONAL DISCREDIT THEMSELVES ON THIS LEVEL. YOU CAN POINT THE FINGERS ALL AROUND YOU AND OTHERS, BUT IN THIS CASE YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUST POINT AROUND HRC BECAUSE THE HER CREDIBILITY AND CHARTER IS EMITTING FROM THE SOURCE, HER OWN MOUTH. WE CAN ALL MAKE A CHANGE, HOWEVER WE NEED IT FOR THE BETTER. BE WISE FELLOW AMERICANS BECAUSE YOU CAN STAND BEHIND ANYONE YOU WANT BECAUSE IT'S A RIGHT TO DO SO. BUT MAKE SURE YOU STAND BEHIND THE ONE WHO IS NOT GOING TO FALL ON YOU. I LOVE OUR COUNTRY AND I LOVE ALL OF US THAT MAKE IT WHAT IT IS, HOWEVER WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER BECAUSE IT'S IN OUR POWER TO DO SO AND BECAUSE WE'RE CAPABLE.


He's is no longer an underdog. His name is recognized nationally and internationally. He leads in all things needed to clinch the primary. He has a lot of money to spend-apparently. He's backed by many people. Most of the journalism writes about his campaign from a leading role while writing about Hillary's campaign from a need to "rehabilitate, last ditch effort..ect" ever since he won 11 states. Rev. Wright would be an underdog.


It will be a miracle if Mr. Obama even comes within 20 points in PA. He is facing several opponents all combined in a single woman. We have the cattle baronness or yore, the land speculator of the Ozarks,
the champion of health care, the sleuth of lost documents, the negotiator of Irish peace, the secret sabateusse of NAFTA, the heroine of Bosnia, the millionairess of Chappaqua, the gunselette of western PA and Indiana, employer of Mark Penn, and mistress of every political trick in the book. She will do whatever; she will never quit; she will say anything. Mr. Obama doesn't have a chance, only a hope!


Check out youtube type in Obama flips off Hillary Clinton All t.v. media should be showing this to the world!!! check it out if you dare!


Hey Obama. I'm scratching my cheek, too, and using the same finger you used in reference to Clinton.

What a childish, peevish act. And this arrogant hack really believes he's going to be elected president? Please.

Goodbye and good riddance Comrade Obama.


Citron, have you noticed that none "none" of the stations have shown that speech where he flips Hillary the bird? First this is so juvenile for someone that is running for president and second his supporters claimed he was just scratching his cheek, but the look on his face and the vicious smile on his lips said it all. It is still a disgrace the way the media covers for him. I watched CNN and even sent them an e-mail and still nothing was said. Chances are my comment wont make print. Over the last two days I have put 5 comments on the Swamp about this and none have shown up on the blog.


James John, how can you talk about Hillary's lies, whe Obama lied about knowing about his ministers hate speaches in the church that he attended for 20 years. How can you degrade Hillary's character when Obama showed his ill breeding, gutter personality, back street persona, by flipping the bird to Hillary in his speech and then using hand gestures that mean even more distasteful sexual implications. Oh Yes, he is really what is needed to run this country, NOT! If you havn't seen it check out youtube Obama flip out Hillary, and if you still want him for president, you are definately more stupied than anyone deserves to be.


HILLARY CLINTON should be praised by every true, red-blooded American as the Saviour of the Republic! obama is an incompetent babbaling baffoon, anti-Christ, Osama bin Laden wanna-be who will ruin the chances of the Democratic Party to win in November because of his own selfish ambitions. He can not now ever win because he has been exposed as the MANCHURIAN Candidate agent of extremist Islamic fascist interests to destroy Israel AND America. obama needs to do the honorable thing and get out of the race now and leave the Democratic nomination to a true American patriot with our values. HILLARY CLINTON is the only person who can defeat the evils of McCainism in November. We need a Democrat version of Margaret Thatcher and Golda Mayer. obama will set this country back 10 generations! Only HILLARY can lead us into the future and defeat the vast right wing republicans. HILLARY ROCKS.... YOU GO GIRL!!!! Wake up America, the mainstream media is part of the Al-Qaida conspiracy to destroy this country.


Originally posted on: The Swamp website:

Just watch the videos. He did it twice, in the same day, at two separate events. He made the gesture at the same point in his speeches - the crowd understood what he meant. Actions speak louder than words. This man is not fit to be a US Senator.

First speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DygBj4Zw6No

Second speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhkq11UExcw
Posted by: james | April 18, 2008 3:47 PM

If Obama gets the nod it will be due solely to Black hypocrisy and White guilt. Great way to get a president! You think the last 8 years were a mess...just wait!
Posted by: Sandee Enriquez | April 18, 2008 5:30 PM
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I add this comment: Obama's "swooning" press coverage is due to the fact that GE owns MSNBC & NBC; Westinghouse owns CBS; & they've got LOTs of ADvertising $$$ to spread around to every form of media.

Obama voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill ... 29 more Nuclear power plants ... GE & Westinghouse are planning to reap $BILLIONS in profits from those nukes.

Hillary voted AGAINSt and says her Energy Plan does not include nuclear - unless & until they can make it CHEAPER AND find a way to stor the nuke waste SAFELY.

It's about MONEY & Corporate Control of the MEDIA/ "news".


Obama’s devotees, who have an unattractively worshipful tendency to blame his mistakes on everyone but him, would do their candidate and the Democratic Party a favor by acknowledging the damage he’s done to both and it wasn’t accidental. Obama betrayed his own and his Party’s essential weakness, and in the process handed the opposition a great gift. He won’t be able to turn this weakness into the kind of strength that ends eras and wins elections until he understands what happened over the past few days. He aslo flipped Hillary. Vote Clinton to win.


Hey Roy -- it's not sexism that makes people dislike Hillary -- it's that we remember the mess she made of a health plan when she had the chance to come up with one before; it's that she and her husband stole artifacts out of the White House when they left (he was impeached, remember?) which belonged to the people of America (true, when threatened with a lawsuit, they managed to return $28,000 worth), it's her penchant for lying; it's her blantant disrespect for the American people; it's her nastiness, her relentlessness in pursuing the presidency which she obviously regards as an entitlement and many, many more reasons.

We don't object to a woman becoming president of the U.S., just not THIS woman.


Even though I am a Hillary supporter I thought the "middle finger" incident was really silly and insignificant. Until now, when I see he did it TWICE! He did know what he was doing, and so did the crowd (I heard boo's in the second clip, but don't know what they were directed at). He is a disgrace. I can't believe the Democratic party I have supported for over 30 years is as corrupt as the Republicans. How can the DNC abandon Clinton to support this idiot?


By the way it's not true about the debate, it's just another example of shoddy journalism and tabloid statements from the media (myself) a lot like the debate. Answering questions about Rev. Wright is fair, IF you ask Hillary about her 'baggage' and what will that baggage be doing all alone in the White House? Or to ask John (Scarlet Letter) McCain about his Eliot Spitzer days and why his lack of morality in his youth will not affect his Presidency.

Someone called Bill a pig yesterday on MSNBC; what do you think the Republicans will do? And after throwing MOVE-ON.ORG under the bus; she could lose California. If I recall don't they have a Maverick Governor? Apparently she is saying she isn't leaving Iraq (per the anti-Move-On speech) and from the debate she is apparently going to expand the war to Iran. Can we say Nader and 15%???


I have been posting comments on-line about what it has been like to deal with some of the members of Obama's Senate staff.

Perhaps I am the only constituent who they have given the shaft to, but I cannot say for certain because the media has not bothered to report about the relationship between Senator Obama and his constituents.

The manner in which a senatorial staff relates to their constituents should reflect the philosophy of the boss. If that is the case with Obama’s, then yes, he is a con artist.


Shoddy Journalism! Of course!


It is always shoddy journalism when Obama gets asked anything he does not want to answer.


Yes, of course he will not do any more debates. If he is forced to speak off the cuff his incompetency comes shining through.


Huh . . . I was talking about coverage of all three Patty. They just started covering Obama because Hillary was the Queen and she was inevitable. Now they are trying to catch up and fine the new 'shiny thing' with Obama and totally let her slide on the 1990's. She said the 1990's over and over but they not once said Monica? They can't say Hsu? I can't say Flowers? If Bill was with an intern in the White House and it literally took DNA to finally stop the guy from lying. And I guess Hillary was 'misled by Bill the same way she was by Bush? Is that a strong President? The whole thing was stupid; but all he had to do was tell the truth??? The President showed an utter lack of Morals and Class; either tell the truth or tell them its none of their business. He was stopped from killing Osama Bin Laden because he could not be faithfull to his wife. Hillary's entire campaign is the 1992 campaign updated. She will go into the White House like she did then, screaming Health Care; and we'll come out 8 years later with NAFTA, Normalized relations with China, a Republican Congress, and a Republican President.


I can't believe that some people are still supporting hillary after this article:

http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/what_hillary_clinton_and_the_media_are_hiding_from_the_voters/


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