Obama's VP: 'Knows a bunch of stuff': The Swamp
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Posted April 7, 2008 11:15 AM
The Swamp

by Mark Silva

When, and if, it comes time to look for a running mate, Barack Obama will be looking for "somebody who knows about a bunch of stuff that I'm not as expert on.''

This was the senator's word at a closed-door fundraiser last night in San Francisco, the Huffington Post reports. Obama fielded a question on what he's looking for in a running mate, HuffPo''s Mayhill Flower writes.

"I would like somebody who knows about a bunch of stuff that I'm not as expert on," the senator is quoted as saying. "I think a lot of people assume that might be some sort of military thing to make me look more commander-in-hief-like. Ironically, this is an area--foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Sen. Clinton or Sen. McCain.

"It's ironic because this is supposedly the place where experience is most needed to be commander-in-chief,'' he continued. "Experience in Washington is not knowledge of the world.

"When Sen. Clinton brags, 'I've met leaders from eighty countries-- I know what those trips are like! I've been on them. You go from the airport to the embassy. There's a group of children who do native dance. You meet with the CIA station chief and the embassy and they give you a briefing. You go take a tour of a plant that [with] the assistance of USAID has started something. And then--you go.

"You do that in eighty countries--you don't know those eighty countries,'' he said. "So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa--knowing the leaders is not important--what I know is the people. . I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college--I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. . . .

"Nobody is entirely prepared for being Commander-in-Chief. The question is when the 3 AM phone call comes do you have somebody who has the judgment, the temperament to ask the right questions, to weigh the costs and benefits of military action, who insists on good intelligence, who is not going to be swayed by the short-term politics. By most criteria, I"ve passed those tests and my two opponents have not."

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"I know what those trips are like! I've been on them. You go from the airport to the embassy. There's a group of children who do native dance. You meet with the CIA station chief and the embassy and they give you a briefing. You go take a tour of a plant that [with] the assistance of USAID has started something. And then--you go."

This sounds like he is aiming to describe his nuclear facility trips with Richard Lugar.

"Obama to visit nuclear, biological weapons destruction facilities in former Soviet Union
Schedule for Obama, Lugar Trip to Russia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and England"

http://obama.senate.gov/press/050823-obama_to_visit/

I would think that if he's going to down play the knowledge and experience one gets from visiting other countries, muddling generalizing and over simplifying the experience, his trips don't mean that much.


Give me a break. Obama has none of the qualifications needed. Who cares where he lived as a child??..Lots of us have seen poverty and strife but that does not qualify us to have such an ego that we aspire to become President. Let's see his schoold transcripts, birth certificate and all of the documents he refuses to produce...He certainly expects HRC to whip out whatever he requests..Try to figure out who the true person is before you jump out and blindly accept all of his cliches and pompas remarks. Seems there is a hot temper buried in there somewhere. Do not be deceived America...


This is the bashing I'm talking about. Daily the Obama campaign cuts at Hilary.
Why?
I think this link perhaps offers an explanation.
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008
Election.html
Before all the Obama youth get on their high horses again in attack mode, please understand we're supposed to be on the same side!
I'll vote for whomever is at the top of the Democratic ticket in the Fall.
But I wonder WHY the Obamas are putting the Democratic party through this? If this continues, I fear we will LOSE and LOSE BIG in the Fall.


But I wonder WHY the Obamas are putting the Democratic party through this? If this continues, I fear we will LOSE and LOSE BIG in the Fall.

Posted by: geraldinetoo | April 7, 2008 12:08 PM


Gerry, you have it backwards. Hillary is putting the party through this. She is behind in both delegate count and votes cast. She is the one drawing this out. If anyone should drop out, it is Clinton, not Obama. I'm sure you'll call me sexist for saying that.


"I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."

Here here. Obama needs to start saying this louder and more often. It contrasts him starkly with both George W. Bush and John McCain, who have happily conflated the two since day one in Iraq. Whether they are doing it out of ignorance (high probability in Bush's case, though McCain finished 894th out of 899 in his Annapolis class so he's not keen on being informed either) or deliberate disinformation to the American people, either way it speaks to their credibility.

We need a president who cares about reality, and getting it right.


Luke, I find it hard to believe you had time to find the article, read it and the links in it before you started spouting for your messiah. This is important Luke.


Obama needs to drive that point home again and again about foreign policy 'experience'. If McCain mentions it, then he should be asked why he supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 if foreign policy experience is so important, because he opponents both times had much much more.


Luke, Hillary is barely behind Obama in delegates and popular vote. With many states yet to vote, why should she drop out? I thought your Lefties always want every vote to count?

Anyway, Obama doesn't know much about everything. Is it even possible to find a VP for him who take up all that Obama slack??


Obama is 100% correct on this. I love how Obama's counter arguments to Clinton's 'more experienced' claims are called attacks by Clinton supporters. I have concluded that the only support left for Clinton are those who are voting for her because she is a woman or voting against Obama because he is black. There is no sensible reason to vote for Clinton. She is slowly killing the Democrats chances to make major gains in the fall.


In reality I don't think any of us bloggers are intentionally bashing per se'..We each feel so strongly in our convitions regarding our chosen nominee that there is some little part in our psyche that believes that possible by putting our opinion in writing for all to see there is the possibility that maybe one or some will see our side and vote for the right candidate..that can only be HRC of course!!!


"a bunch of stuff"

A front runner.

Harvard educated.

A grown man.

Our political process, obviously, is irreparable.


"somebody who knows about a bunch of stuff that I'm not an expert on.''

Well, since Barry's shown little knowledge other than how to endorse people who raise our taxes in Illinois he could really pick anyone he wanted and they'd most likely "know a bunch of stuff I'm not an expert on."

About the only thing he's demonstrated expertise on to this day is raising our taxes and doing photo-ops.


Oprahma lived in Indonesia as a schoolboy and he's passing that off as "experience"? And he's bragging that he claims to know the difference between Suni and Shia... all of this presumably with a straight face?
This is like a bad joke. Nevertheless the Obamabots lap it up. The rest of America isn't though. Look at his poll numbers vs McCain.


"EXCUTIVE BRANCH OF THE VICE PRESIDENT SPEAKS"

.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

"IMPERMISSIBLE EXCERCISE OF THE EXECUTIVE POWER"

THAT WAS THEN, AND THIS IS NOW, AND WE HAVE "ARCHIVES"

SOMEBODY GET MY RIFLE, I LIKE TO HUNT TOO!


"I think a lot of people assume that might be some sort of military thing to make me look more commander-in-hief-like. Ironically, this is an area--foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Sen. Clinton or Sen. McCain.

"It's ironic because this is supposedly the place where experience is most needed to be commander-in-chief,'' he continued. "Experience in Washington is not knowledge of the world."

John McCain enjoy your retirement!!!


"bunch of stuff"? Is this a grown man speaking or 10 yr old kid. Does he think its "cool" to speak like this? I dont think kids can vote so he should start acting and talking his age.


Hillary will be the nominee. Barack Obama should just face reality and pull out of the race.


He will insist on good intelligence. This is all that is necessary to expose his inexperience. More often than not events occur faster than imagined let alone predicted. A president must steer the situation with incomplete knowlege. You can't learn this in a class room.


Gerry...you want Obama to stop Campaigning!

Why? To let Hillary Clinton be the Democrat candidate!

Must be you are not aware of her latest staff screw-ups, her lies, still throwing garbage at her opponents, campaign debts unpaid, weak record as a Senator and behind in the popular vote... yet Hillary - a multi-millionaire - says she'd 'make the best judgments when that White House phone rings at 3 a.m.' (Pause for laughter).

As the entire world watches her shameful tactics and wonders if the USA might actually decide to elect this irresponsible person to the most powerful leadership position on this planet, Hillary continues to relentlessly fight, argue, whine and scramble 24/7 to be elected President of our United States!

Gerry, do you really want the CLINTONS in the White House for another four, possibly eight years?


She is behind in both delegate count and votes cast. She is the one drawing this out

Posted by: Luke | April 7, 2008 12:24 PM

In reality Obama has not WON the delegate count, and until he arrives at that 2024 number Hillary is still viable. Keep in mind that only 134 delegates separate them. Moreover, Clinton has won the big states such as New York and California. While Obama has won "red states", this win may be a strategical one for Republicans who voted Democratic during the primaries to allow the weaker of the two Democratic candidates to go forth to November's general election. What appears to be Republicans crossing over to vote Democratic during the primaries may just be a ploy to fool real Democrats that Obama is the stronger candidate. In those states where the white registered voters predominate, you will find Republican whites playing the race card to make certain Obama IS the running mate in November.

Be careful, Obamites, your prince may be the pawn in a fool's game concocted by shrewd Republicans to maintain the White House. Hillary is the best bet for Democratic reform, and it is with sincere hope that Democrats don't lose the opportunity to support Hillary as the the most viable candidate to win in November and bring the "red conservative" strategy to failure.

To those Dem.superdelegates - the popular vote may not represent the vote of the Democratic party voters, but may represent votes in a turncoat effort to deceive the party by Republican strategist.


Hey I know a bunch of stuff, just maybe.....


Luke, you're missing the irony gene. There's no reason for any candidate to stop running for president as long as they have the money and support to do so. Otherwise Ross Perot and Ralph Nader would have dropped out before they started.

Obama wins poker games by his bluffing style. Hillary shouldn't fold -- her cards really are stronger.


I have more foreign affairs experience as does my husband from our service to our country from the time we spent in the United Statea Navy. At least that is my take from Obama's claims. Actually we do. What does a couple of trips to Africa and some family have to do with foreign affairs? He might and I say might know about the people but that does not mean he knows about foreign affairs. The foreign affairs of a country in my opinion start at the top down. That reads president, prime minister or whoever.

And I am astounded that Obama thought Canada had a president. Since he does not even know that what experience does he really have?


Obama is such an arrogant fool. The more he speak, the more he reveal how ignorant and shallow he is.

His foreign advisor admitted on national television that Obama is not ready for 3 am call. Obama admitted in 2006 that he won't be ready to run for President in 2008.

He doesn't have a clue about the fact behind 9/11. 7 years later, he still said "nobody can predict 9/11", the investigation report showed that it's not the case. And Obama still didn't know that 7 years later?

He should starting doing some homework and spend less time trying to cut the corner. Edwards is more qualified and ready to be President than Obama.

For me, it's Hillary first, McCain second, Obama never. I would vote for Mickey Mouse before I vote for Obama. At least Mickey is more patriotic than Rev. Wright's nephew.


Maybe those were the kind of trips that Obama experienced, like getting those kinds of traditional outfits. Shook hand, smiled, praised them, and gave each a pat on the back. That’s about it. And the life in Indonesia, it’s only about having those local stories from the local baby sitters, or being taken to those types of traditional markets. Give me a break, Obama. Are trying to tell your bed time stories to the American people?


LMAO @ hey I know a bunch of stuff, we all know a bunch of stuff just maybe we stand a chance ;)


What a nut case Obama is, feeling invincible. Someone is going to pull him off his cloud one of these day...I hope it is Hillary!


As an Obama supporter I was a bit surprised by his comments, too. It does come off sounding a bit arrogant. But when you consider Hillary just a few days earlier said that the only experience he had was "a speech he gave in 2002" while speaking highly of John McCain I can see why he'd be a bit punchy.

Let's be honest, Hillary's credentials have been called into question or proven without a doubt inaccurate. She should have to prove her claims, and that is what his statements will hopefully make her do.

Yes, his judgement on foreign affairs are better, if you believe Iraq was a mistake. In voting for the war, Clinton invoked her "8 years of experience" as first lady. Experience is nothing without wisdom and discernment. And yes, experience in Washington does not equate with experience in world affairs. The world is a constantly changing place and we need to weight decisions by the candidates very heavily towards recent events because of this. I've heard all 3 candidates speak about the middle east and feel strongly that the one that gets both what is at stake and how best to deal with the players involved is Obama. Clinton may have the right prescription, but her diagnosis of the problem has only recently caught up with Obama (i.e. Afghanistan should be the focus, not Iraq).


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