I can't see how this can be false when he actually said it.

What obligation?
Isn't this what they wanted?

How is it illegal?

Those words are McCain's own words and he said them when he was courting the rightwing warmongering Republican base during the Republican primary. If he didn't believe what he saying at the time he shouldn't have lied about it in the first place and if wasn't planning on bombing Iran he shouldn't have sang about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2kyXN4ZVQg

I can't see how this can be false when he actually said it.

Posted by: Cheryl | April 28, 2008 3:05 PM

Cheryl-

Of course you do- you just won't admit it...

So if I parsed your comment down to " I can't see" does that mean I would be "truthfully" describing your vision?

The RNC hates lawyers....except when they think they can be useful to them.

Republicans can say anything they want in an ad, but when democrats do it, we need "regulation." It's a free market -- if you don't like it, turn the TV off. And be proud, 'cause we learned that from you.

"REPUBLICANS SPEAK"

WE FOUND THE "LAW OF THE LAND" BOOK IN COLO SOLO PANAMA CANAL ZONE DATED BACK TO 1936! JOHN MCCAIN CANNOT BE REPEATED NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS. MUMS THE WORD. OR IMPRISONMENT, DETAINMENT, TOTURE, AND MORE AND MORE "EMERGENCY WAR SPENDING BILLS" AND NO DOMESTIC SPENDING!

DAVID VITTER, LARRY CRAIG, LARRY FOLEY, TOM DELAY, KARL ROVE, HARRIET MIERS SAY IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO "REPEAT" WHAT A COLO SOLO BORN CITIZEN SAYS OR DOES. IT'S NOT BECOMING OF AN AMERICAN OR "NATURALLY BORN" OF AN AMERICAN.

IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO "SHOW VISUAL AIDS" PERTAINING TO ANYONE BORN IN COLO SOLO PANAMA CANAL ZONE IN 1936.

IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO "UTTER" THOSE 100 YEAR WAR WORDS FROM JOHN MCCAIN, MR. 305 MILLION MAN, AKA HANS COLO SOLO OF PANAMA CANAL ZONE 1936.

WE HAVEN'T PASSED A "NON-BINDING RESOLUTION" DETERMINING HIM A "NATURAL BORN" CITIZEN.

WE CAN'T TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HOW WE LOST 100 BILLION DOLLARS IN IRAQI "RECONSTRUCTION" CONTRACTS BUT WE CAN TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT IT IS AGAINST THE "CONSTITUTION" TO REPEAT WHAT COLO SOLO BORN JOHN MCCAIN SAID, AND CONTINUES TO SAY!

BY STRIKING "ATTORNEY GENERAL" AND BY INSERTING "SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY" IN CONSULTATION WITH AMERICA. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO REPEAT JOHN MCCAINS 100 YEAR WAR IN IRAQ.

THE REPUBLICANS HAVE FOUND THE "LAW OF THE LAND" PAMPLET IN THE DARKEN DOORS OF THE DICK CHENEY'S EXECUTIVE CLOSET IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

THE REPUBLICANS HAVE FOUND JOHN MCCAINS 100 YEAR WAR WRITTEN IN 1936 COLO SOLO PANAMA CANAL ZONE. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO REPEAT "THE MCCAIN"
HANS COLO SOLO!

If McCain didn't want his own words used against him he never should have said them in the first place. McCain made these crazy statements when he was courting the far rightwing base during the Republican primary at which time he also sang about bombing Iran. McCain was either lying then or he is lying now, either one is bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2kyXN4ZVQg

McCain had the SC republicans pull the Wright ad that had all the chopping of his words in it. Now Howard should do the same. Everyone who's not a knee-jerk liberal knows that McCain said "as long as Americans aren't dying and Americans aren't getting hurt I'd be fine with us keeping a presence in a very volatile part of the world and I hope you would be, too."

Aw, poor RNC. Now they know how Obama and Rev Wright feel when their statements are misrepresented and caricaturized. Welcome to the front. Just wait till the Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran ads come out (did the Beach Boys hit him for copyright on that?)

Even if you include all of the McCain words, it sounds like McCain does not understand the was we are fighting. Iraq is not Germany, Japan, South Korea. It is more like Lebannon with many factions that would die for a cause for 100 years. McCain just does not get it. I think he is too old.

Too bad Mitch McConnell is blocking new appointments to the FEC. leaving it without a quorum in this election year. There can be no enforcement of the election laws in cases like this until that situation is changed. the RNC and McCain should be pressuring their Republican collegue to allow the votes to go forward.

Jeff,
Americans are dying and Americans are getting hurt in Iraq? How long is that acceptable to you?

McCain had the SC republicans pull the Wright ad that had all the chopping of his words in it. Now Howard should do the same. Everyone who's not a knee-jerk liberal knows that McCain said "as long as Americans aren't dying and Americans aren't getting hurt I'd be fine with us keeping a presence in a very volatile part of the world and I hope you would be, too."

Posted by: Jeff | April 28, 2008 4:23 PM


But it's OK to parse the words of Obama's former pastor for the conservatives to use as smear?
All's fair or none - can't have it both ways.

The best thing that could happen to the McCain campaign is that the DNC continues to show their true colors and runs the lies in this ad as much as possible. Any discerning voter can see it as the lie and smear that it is. It will turn off moderate democrats and independents and they will flock to McCain since he IMMEDIATELY condemned the similarly offending Carolina GOP ad with Wright. They will see which side has class and join the McCain camp.

Roger, see my earlier post about how McCain condemned that ad and got it pulled. Where is Obama's "leadership" on this one?

Jackson, Americans are dying and getting hurt on the south side of Chicago. How long is that acceptable to you and the democrat junta that run the city?

Hasn't McCain also said that he doesn't believe in a policy of retreat? So if he doesn't believe in retreating, but won't stay in Iraq for 50 years if we are still fighting, then what if it takes 50 years to achieve victory? (see Israeli/Palestinian conflict) If the Democrats weren't stupid, they could point out this obvious contradiction and make the same point without having to produce an ad full of lies and distortions. Unfortunately, the Democrats are stupid.

If they can't get anyone to vote with then telling the truth, why would anybody be suprised that the dems are doing this?
No wonder they have won so many national elections in the last 150 years, I guess 7 is a lot.
If all the college kids who were Democrats stayed with the party as they grew older and wiser, they would have at least 90% of the vote and wouldn't have to llie the way they always have too. But, people do you grow up and most of them get wiser and leave the party.
They better start changing themselves before anyone would consider believing they can change anything nationally for the better.

If they can't get anyone to vote with then telling the truth, why would anybody be suprised that the dems are doing this?
No wonder they have won so many national elections in the last 150 years, I guess 7 is a lot.
If all the college kids who were Democrats stayed with the party as they grew older and wiser, they would have at least 90% of the vote and wouldn't have to llie the way they always have too. But, people do you grow up and most of them get wiser and leave the party.
They better start changing themselves before anyone would consider believing they can change anything nationally for the better.

McCain had the SC republicans pull the Wright ad that had all the chopping of his words in it. Now Howard should do the same. Everyone who's not a knee-jerk liberal knows that McCain said "as long as Americans aren't dying and Americans aren't getting hurt I'd be fine with us keeping a presence in a very volatile part of the world and I hope you would be, too."

Posted by: Jeff | April 28, 2008 4:23 PM

That's exactly what I mean he said. I see no point in keeping our people over there for a hundred years, fighting or no fighting. We just need to get out.

I thought Obama was above all of this? I thought he was the great uniter?. Oh my. LOL Obama is a first-rate con man. Nothing more.

The people supporting these ads (in the comments above) are probably the same people who complain about Rev. Wrights comments being "taken out of context."
It's a blast seeing your candidates fall on the sword of their own incompetencies as the Democrat Party is laid to waste around them. Keep clinging to your hypocrisies, as if a blatant misrepresentation such as this will actually make any difference. Never has there been a more opportune time for the Democrat Party to take the White House, and it is just wonderful that your party has seen fit to accomodate us Republicans by falling apart at the seams.

McCain had the SC republicans pull the Wright ad that had all the chopping of his words in it. Now Howard should do the same.

Posted by: Jeff | April 28, 2008 4:23 PM

Actually Jeff, McCain ASKED the RNC to remove the Wright ad. They did not.

Obviously as the presumptive Republican nominee, McCain is the presumptive leader of the Republican party or at the very least the leader of the campaign. So for him to say that he asked them to remove an ad and they refused is nonsense.

Which is to say that McCain wanted to present the appearance of running a magnanimous, positive campaign, while still letting someone else take the cheap shots for him.

RNC = Stupidly Hilarious (TM)
Illegal?! Illegal?! Whhhhhaaaaaaa??
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The party that has destroyed the Constitution and our fiscal health for the next generation is saying a political commercial is illegal?
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My credulousness is challenged by this bit of disingenuous, red herring waving, croc tears.

What? Our "bomb, bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb Iran" candidate, through his RNC surrogates, is upset that his own words are coming back to haunt him?

Given ALL his war-mongering statements over the past year, this is the least of his problems...

Rev. William Hayashi

The DNC would be smart to pull it. I don't think Obama will like the Rev. Wright ads, the mad bomber, Ayers, ads and the Tony Rezko ads, to come if this stays.

At least the Dem's ad didn't mention McCain's out of wedlock black baby or his deep, permanent psychological damage at the hands of the torturous North Vietnamese.

Scott, then wouldn't you say it speaks volumes that Obama didn't even ASK that this lying ad be removed?

p.s. Cheryl, if you don't see the point of keeping a military base in a very volatile part of the world then you're showing your ignorance of military matters. There's a reason we're in South Korea, Japan and Rammstein, Germany, too.

Oh, and Scott, what would you have McCain do? He told them he wants it pulled. There's nothing more he can do. It's a state ad aimed at two gubernatorial candidates. There's no McCain campaign money in it to pull or national campaign money behind it. It's an entirely local ad.

"as long as Americans aren't dying and Americans aren't getting hurt I'd be fine with us keeping a presence in a very volatile part of the world and I hope you would be, too."

1st, McCain didn't say that.
2nd, Americans are dying & being hurt. Everyday. If Americans are in a "very volatile part of the world", how can expect anything else?

The best strategy the DNC can employee is running adds with McCain speaking in his own words.

Go ahead republicans, hire your lawyers to squash free speech.

Do you Democrats really want to start censoring exact words and phrases? Do you really?? Over the last 6 months Hill Hill and Barry have uttered enough phrases to kill their chances and the democratic party as we know it. How many times has Barry been called to the carpet only to have him say..."what I really meant was..."

Good Luck with the war on words.

Greg Brady
Those were your words Greg

Wait a second ... we're at war? I thought we declared mission accomplished years ago. Obviously the DNC couldn't be accusing McCain "of stating that prolonging the Iraq war for '100 years' would be 'fine' with him" if the war is already long over...

"So if I parsed your comment down to " I can't see" does that mean I would be "truthfully" describing your vision? Posted by: heartburn | April 28, 2008 3:29 PM"
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This is what Rove and the RNC have been doing for 3 decades.
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But like that spoiled brat in the sandbox, once some one throws a little sand back in their eyes, they run crying like a baby to mommy.

7 elections in 150 years? "Changing" is the usual conserv that wants to revamp history to fit his purposes. He also cannot count. By the way it was North Carolina, not South Carolina and the party refused to pull the ad. So the GOP reaps what it sows.

If the RNC is concerned about deceptive ads that misquote people, they should go after Oberweis for those sleazy and deceptive ads in his congressional campaign.

I understand how this ad works. It smears McCain by using his own words, that's great.

Now, when others' words from the Antoin Rezko trial start speaking of Obama, what will happen? Will the Dems not brush that off as slander?

The Dems are only digging their graves deeper and deeper. The past two Democratic candidates have been terribly chosen by their constituents, and the next, be it Hillary or Barack, will be as well. The Democrats need to get a grasp on reality and soon, or they won't win this election...or the next.

Yes, the Dems have had 7 people voted into the White House since Abe Lincoln was living there.
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On the November 27, 2007, edition of PBS' Charlie Rose, McCain was asked by Rose if South Korea "is an analogy of where Iraq might be ... in terms of an American presence over the next, say, 20, 25 years, that we will have a significant amount of troops there." McCain replied, "I don't think so." Rose then asked: "Even if there are no casualties?" McCain replied, "No. But I can see an American presence for a while. But eventually I think because of the nature of the society in Iraq and the religious aspects of it that America eventually withdraws."

Another flip-flop from Mr. straight talk.

The RNC should be ashamed of themselves for trying to push McCain down our throats. Let the RNC cry, they got nothing better to do.

Obama and Clinton both want to keep our troops in iraq hundred years guarding our embassy.

McCain was talking about a small force of military advisors.

Clinton and Obama have both said they will keep troops there fighting al queda and Clinton has said as a buffer to Iran.

Gee. Republicons cry when the truth comes out.

If only they were as concerned about the lies George Bush and Dick Cheney have told -- such as the lies that got us into Iraq in the first place.

When do the war crimes tribunals start?

If McCain and the RNC can't stand the swiftboating heat from the DNC, then maybe they should get out of the election kitchen. It's payback time.

Ain't that like calling the kettle black. What's wrong with the RNC, a bunch of little whiners.

i had hoped this election would bring more people into the process of an election. now i see at as maybe even more divisive than any other campaign.

check out this video for some political comic relief - you deserve it at this point!

(cut, paste, add www.)

youtube.com/watch?v=IcZwHuR_BMc

Does anyone know how much it cost American taxpayers now to station 60000 troops itn Korea and Japan?

If so, let me know so I can send a letter to McCain to multiply that amount by 100. He said he wants to cut wasteful spending.

The Republican party will always feel war will bring the economy back, that war solves everything. Democrats don't use war. They use peace and talking openly with those we are opposed to and war only as a last result...

We have been in war so long that our economy simply can't keep up with the heavy cost and keep people working on things such as infrastructure repairs and using the economy to convince those in opposition.

We have to find more peaceful ways to stop violence and use technology to insure that if someone plans an attack that they are guarded with laser weapons to destroy the weapon safely without endangering the community. There is technology available and it is time we use it...

Threatening one community because of ideology or religious differences is these days barbaric. We have become more intelligent and have other means without total destruction to one or more areas of the Earth, none of us can afford. with global warming

Illegal? I'd laugh but since the Repubs control the supreme court, they do decide what's legal and what's not. That's a depressing thought...

Gotta love the two-faced Republican cry-babies. Hey! Politics ain't bean-bag. They've screwed up this country so badly it's going to take years to fix it. Now they want to clog up the courts with 'frivolous lawsuits'. Tell it to those 'activist judges' Ha!

If John McCain actually thinks that we can have our military in Iraq for 100 years and not be under constant attacks then he is even more deluded than the commercials indicate.

If the legal definition of insanity is that one is not able to understand the consequences of one's actions (and that is the legal definition) then John McCain, and in fact every like minded conservative, is completely insane.