All-Wright already, 'nuff of that pastor: The Swamp
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Miley Cyrus has had a rough week too.

Posted May 8, 2008 4:55 PM
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by Mark Silva

This posting may defy the sentiment behind it: People say the media have over-covered the story of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

"The latest round of news about Barack Obama and his former pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright dominated campaign news coverage last week,'' the Pew Research Center finds its latest news-interest survey. "Wright's comments are by far the biggest political event of the campaign to date: Fully 62 percent say they have heard a lot or a little about Rev. Wright's recent speeches.''

And look at this: "Most Americans (59 percent) think that news organizations have overcovered the Wright controversy,'' Pew's Andy Kohut reports. "About two-thirds of Democrats (66 percent) and nearly as many independents (59 percent) say that news organizations have devoted too much coverage to Wright's recent speeches. But as many as half of Republicans agree that Wright's comments have received too much coverage.''

With all of that exposure of Obama, the Democrat who stands the strongest chance of claiming his party's presidential nomination now, and the most inciteful remarks of the fiery, longtime and now-retired pastor of Obama's church on the South Side of Chicago, comes a certain political price.

. "By the end of the week a quarter of all Americans, including 26 percent of Democrats, said their opinion of Obama had become less favorable in recent days;'' reports Kohut, president of the Pew Center. "Fewer than half as many (11 percent) said their opinion of the Illinois senator had become more favorable. ''

Those whose opinions had changed were asked about any specific incidents that prompted that. "Overall, a majority of those who said their opinion of Obama had become more negative volunteered a specific incident, with the Wright controversy mentioned most frequently (by 60 percent of those who cited a specific event).''

Of course, nearly four in ten Americans surveyed said they also had seen the photographs of Miley Cyrus that had stirred an uproar over the young skin of Hannah Montana. And that didn't do much for her image either -- among those who saw the bare-backed photo and more, 59 percent thought they were inappropriate.

Read more, here, from the weekly News Interest Index, a project of the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press and The Project for Excellence in Journalism.

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I expect to see about about 20 fake post names on this thread from "MJ" who will pretend to be outraged by Rev Wright all the while failing to bring up Revs Hagee and Parsley (McCain).


5....4..3..2...1 DING DING DING..


"I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened over the spectacle that we saw.''


John E beat me to it.


Enough of Wright already! It is not as if he were David Duke. Don't you know, we have a double standard in this country?


As you can well see by this poll...Rev. Wright will not go away. He will always be Obama's legacy...This issue plus the lack of Catholic, Jewish and Blue collar vote will ensure that Obama will never become President...He has not even been vetted yet so wait and see...HRC is our answer...


I'm guessing John E thinks that Obama was pretending to be outraged by Wright. I mean it's not humanly possible for anyone to be outraged. It must be "MJ." You know the "MJ" that "John E" invented to pretend to be offended. Ding Dong.


Cheryl and John E beat me to it.


John E do you have a point? There is no comparison between Obama's long time buddy Rev. Wright and the endorsement McCain received from Hagee earlier this year. Will you tell us about the history of John McCain's relationship with Hagee and Parsley? You keep living in your little land of fairy tales. Hagee and Parsley did not bring McCain to Christ, didn't baptize his kids, didn't marry he and his wife, didn't have a sermon that later became the title of any of his books but of course I am sure you are well aware that the loony Rev. Wright did all of this and more for Barack "All Talk" Obama! You and all the other desperate liberals trying to equate the two reveals you have a really low IQ. I can see why you support Obama though because I am guessing you are one of those who also likes to lie and say that McCain wants to be at war for 100 years in Iraq too right?

You better get back to the Daily Kos now to gather up your liberal talking points! Loser!


who cares about Rev. Hagee or Parsley? Did McCain call them his mentor or did I miss that? This isn't covered enough - as Obama still hasn't answered the questions, so we're left to assume he agreed with all the racist baloney for 20 years - until the TRUTH came out, then he defended his mentor, then he finally disowned him. If it weren't for FOX news bringing this to the forefront, he'd still be an active member. I hope they have shots of him jumping up and down in the aisles, cheering for his mentor's racist rants. He should have Kerry be his mentor now - seeing he seems to flip flop when the polls dictate. I wonder how the Iranians will feel when he sits down with them and tells them they cling to religion and guns cause they're bitter.


I prefer to vote republican after hearing several clips of Rev. Jeremiah Wright's
reflections on society. The man preaches hate and lives in the past.

Welcome to the lesser of fears for our future; John McCain.


Just here to agree with John E.


You better get back to the Daily Kos now to gather up your liberal talking points! Loser!

Posted by: Siouxperman | May 8, 2008 6:12 PM


I'm guessing John E thinks that Obama was pretending to be outraged by Wright. I mean it's not humanly possible for anyone to be outraged. It must be "MJ." You know the "MJ" that "John E" invented to pretend to be offended. Ding Dong.

Posted by: EPB | May 8, 2008 6:10 PM

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"THEY'RE" BACK!!!


McCain's Spiritual Advisers:


I think it's time to shed some light on the brilliant gems uttered by some of McCain's own spiritual advisers, Pastor John Hagee and Reverend Rod Parsley. When Hagee endorsed McCain, because he is a man of principle, McCain said he was "very honored by Pastor John Hagee's endorsement." Reverend Parsley calls McCain a "strong, true, consistent conservative" and McCain calls Parsley "a spiritual adviser." Because the liberal media refuses to give any credit to McCain, it is up to us to be fair and balanced. So here are the top 10 Memorable Quotes said by McCain's religious advisers:


1. "Do you know the difference between a woman with PMS and a snarling Doberman pinscher? The answer is lipstick. Do you know the difference between a terrorist and a woman with PMS? You can negotiate with a terrorist."
- Pastor John Hagee in his book What Every Man Wants in a Woman (Charisma House, 2005)


2. "The Quran teaches that [all Muslims have a mandate to kill Christians and Jews]. Yes, it teaches that very clearly."
-Pastor John Hagee


3. "I believe that the Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans...I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are -- were recipients of the judgment of God for that...There was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came. And the promise of that parade was that it was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other Gay Pride parades.... The Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the day of judgment."
-Pastor John Hagee


4. "The military will have difficultly recruiting healthy and strong heterosexuals for combat purposes. Why? Fighting in combat with a man in your fox hole that has AIDS or is HIV positive is double jeopardy."
- Pastor John Hagee on Don't Ask Don't Tell


5. "[Gay marriage] will open the door to incest, to polygamy, and every conceivable marriage arrangement demented minds can possibly conceive. If God does not then punish America, He will have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah."
- Pastor John Hagee


6. "It is impossible to call yourself a Christian and defend homosexuality. There is no justification or acceptance of homosexuality.... Homosexuality means the death of society because homosexuals can recruit, but they cannot reproduce."
- Pastor John Hagee


7. "Only a Spirit-filled woman can submit to her husband's lead. It is the natural desire of a woman to lead through feminine manipulation of the man...Fallen women will try to dominate the marriage. The man has the God-given role to be the loving leader of the home."
- Pastor John Hagee in his book What Every Man Wants in a Woman (Charisma House, 2005)


8. "I cannot tell you how important it is that we understand the true nature of Islam, that we see it for what it really is. In fact, I will tell you this: I do not believe our country can truly fulfill its divine purpose until we understand our historical conflict with Islam. I know that this statement sounds extreme, but I do not shrink from its implications. The fact is that America was founded, in part, with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed, and I believe September 11, 2001, was a generational call to arms that we can no longer ignore."
- Rod Parsley in Silent No More (Charisma House, 2005)


9. "Gay sexuality inevitably involves brutal physical abusiveness and the unnatural imposition of alien substances into internal organs, orally and anally, that inevitably suppress the immune system and heighten susceptibility to disease."
- Rod Parsley


10. "Only 1 percent of the homosexual population in America will die of old age. The average life expectancy for a homosexual in the United States of America is 43 years of age. A lesbian can only expect to live to be 45 years of age. Homosexuals represent 2 percent of the population, yet today they're carrying 60 percent of the known cases of syphilis."
- Rod Parsley
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http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5517


Keep bringing the hate GOPer's, both sides can play this game.


The man preaches hate and lives in the past.

Posted by: mark booker | May 8, 2008 6:22 PM

Wow...a whole 40 years ago...did you wash your hands pontius? Can't see it from your house...right?


I would like to know just what Republican Catholics here think of Hagee and McCain's acceptance of his endorsement.
I never get a response to this.
At least Obama has renounced Wright, but McCain still seems tight with Hagee.


Posted by: John E | May 8, 2008 6:51 PM

Does anyone know why this Republican clown is hanging himself out to dry? The list is right up the alley of a sexist, Mulism hater, age-ist, racist, homophobe. Right up "John E's" alley.


C. Morris @9:43 p.m.

I am a ' Republican Catholic ', apparently with time on my hands. The difference, as I see it, is, really how close are Hagee and McCain. Leftists want to make it look like they are tight beer drinkin'- fishin' buddies. I very honestly have not seen any evidence of that.


Getting an endorsement from an evangelist that may be on the fringe a bit versus the mainstream is just not the same thing as a ranting, raving, lunatic that goes on and on, and that the political guy has clearly had a very long term relationship with, of some kind.


If a "pastor" has an anti-Jewish modus operandi, he could just about as easily be anti-Catholic too. Although I am not that good of a on-the- mark Catholic, I would have a very serious issue with that pastor and his guy.


I honestly am not seeing anti-Catholicism or anti-Judaism as a tenet of McCain's philosophy. The democrats keep trying, but that connection REALLY has not been made. To me, the whole Hagee issue just seems to be a diversion and I don't bother with propaganda web sites for either side.


IF the Hagee connection were ever solidly made, then he definitely would not have my vote. Would have to then spend the 1st Tuesday after the 1st Monday in November with one of my fine guitars, chillin', but it just has not been made anyways close to my credibility bar. And that's how I see it.



Bringing in the Rev Wright is pure political sleaze. First, who wants to be judged by the views of another, one you may have spent an hour a week with in the mere formality of going to church? For most politicians in America, going to church is a mere formality.


There are so many ridiculous religious freaks out there with dashboard Jesus figures and superstitious nonsense filling their heads, no politician can afford not to be seen crossing a church threshold occasionally.


You don't seriously believe either of the Clintons is genuinely religious, do you? They are both consumingly ambitious and worldly, to say the least. Or that swearing, drinking, skirt-chasing man, McCain, who doesn't even sleep with his wealthy wife?


You condemn your own judgment in saying that is what should be done. Wright is an ego-maniac, but then so are all of the American televangelists and leaders of super-churches. You name the man - Falwell, Swaggert, Hinn, Roberts, Robertson, Graham, Bakker, Schuller - they are all ego-maniacs and about as genuinely Christian as Wall Street swindlers.


I also think, although I do not like the form it is presented in, that Wright does have some truths buried in his rhetoric. Crazy-sounding stuff like government manufacturing AIDS to attack blacks may be understood as parables and symbolic ways of talking about bitter underlying truths. God knows, America's blacks have truly suffered inordinate burdens and great injustice for more than two centuries.


Wright's more extreme expressions rank right up there with Falwell saying the Anti-Christ exists and that "he is in the form of a Jewish male." Or suggesting that the Clintons had Vince Foster murdered. Or blaming 9/11 on homosexuals. Or any of scores of other vicious, stupid words.


Moron Franklin Graham, right after 9/11, called for America's enemies to be attacked with nuclear weapons. When this exemplary Christian was younger, one of his favorite fun things to do, other than drinking and driving, was to use a machine gun on trees. His favorite gift to friends on birthdays or other occasions is an automatic pistol.


How about Pat Robertson publicly calling for the assassination of a foreign leader? He wasn't treated as a terrorist, as he very much should have been under America's ugly anti-terror laws.


The greatest underlying truth over the ego-maniac Wright is that America’s reaction to him is so extremely unbalanced.


Posted by: John Chuckman, Toronto, Canada | May 9, 2008 8:36 AM

When the Wright controversy broke, you thought you were going somewhere with your incessant defense of the "truths" of Rev Wright, and now you end your post labeling your truth teller as an ego maniac. Couldn't see that from the start? They were just "clips out of context." I'm surprised.

You offer-- an ego maniac who's capable of telling a truth...that could only be swallowed by a Canadian ego maniac who "tells the truth." Your reaction to Wright extremely fluctuates


Kudos to you Garry Big @ 12:05 p.m.,

I seem to recall that diatribe also, filled with so many krazy assertions that where would you ever start if you were to make a run at sorting it out. Accolades to you, GB of Toronto, Canada for bringing forth the Light.


Friday, great day to be in Tx. Too hot, but more Pretty Latinas than you can shake a stick at. No reason to bring ruin to it by fencing with America Hate-ing Marxists.


I love this Country.


Hagee and Parsley are pure unadulterated SPIN, the misuse of the term 'Spiritual Advisor' up above is an outright lie and should be retracted.
Rev Wright was officially part of Obama's campaign staff on his spiritual advisory committee, Obama called him his friend and mentor, attended his church for 20 years and claims he did not know he was a racist. Hagee was just one of a multitude of people who have endorsed McCain, McCain has not been part of his congregation and probably never heard a racist word out of his mouth. If he had been a member of his church for 20 years and said he hadn't heard any racist comments, then of course he would be lying. If Obama does not share Wright's views, he would not have remained a loyal member of Wright's church for such a long long time. The fact that you need to spin the truth shows that even you know how despicable Obama's association with Wright is.


I would like to congratulate Barack on condemning Rev Wright's comments. Being a person of colour, and being a Christian, I am very aware of how some Christians & some people of colour think very irrationally & defensively, and are forever blaming the rest of the world for their shortcomings. They count on other people of colour and/or Christians to back them up into a frenzy of emotion as a means of clouding the true reason for their failings - their own inadequacies. It has nothing to do with discrimination against them. It is actually a race card and a religious card that the "Rev Wrights" of the world use to bully Christians & people of colour into supporting their cause to further their own selfish needs. It is the "Rev Wrights" of the world who are doing this for their own gain, not Barack Obama. I totally empathize with Barack on this really emotionally stirring and controversial issue. It cannot be easy to do what he has done. It is a no-win situation; he will receive accusations no matter what he says & does. He has done the brave and correct thing in responding the way he has. He has my prayers and blessings. He is a wise and strong man with great convictions who does ALL people proud, not just people of colour. I pray that this petty issue will not affect voters' judgements in voting for Obama. I feel helpless and saddened that I cannot vote for him as I live in New Zealand.


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