McCain: Iran missile-test proves threat

Hey, America: BOMB, BOMB, BOMB IRAN!! How's that for using common sense ? Don't count on it from Senator " Questionable Conduct " McCain. He'll have us in another war before his Inaugurational Ball is over!! You can always count on the Republicans for war- and fear-mongering !! It is the cornerstone of the platform!! Vote for them America, if you want you sons and daughters dying and getting maimed in another senseless war !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

It proves nothing of the kind.

It is called defence.

Iran in its modern era has neither threatened nor attacked anyone.

The U.S., occupying two countries, regularly threatens a third (Iran), and has started making noises over a fourth (Pakistan).

It maintains a huge fleet off the coast.

Israel, still occupying a people after forty years, regularly speaks of attacking Iran and practices bombing runs.

Just who is the real threat?

I thought Senator McSame wanted to attack Iran with cigarettes!

Can someone tell me exactly what a missile "shield" is? Is it more missiles? Is it a big umbrella? is it Star wars? What?

Iran must stop self-defense, our President Bush has demanded; we will be better able to savage them as a weak nation. Iran ability to defend herself is a threat to Israel's dominance of the Middle East. Thanks to USA hardware and economic supports, Israel a nation of about 6 million has cowed all the regional Arab nations of over 100 million people.

Please read: http://straveler-myamerica.blogspot.com/2008/06/foreign-policy-of-president-bush-and.html

You can always count on the Republicans for war- and fear-mongering !!
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, Chicago | July 9, 2008 11:15 AM

Looks like Don "These Arabs are great" Fitzgerald must be referring to those great Republican Presidents like Roosevelt, Kennedy and Johnson , at least the Democrat Nixon got us out of Vietnam

Don, John, Michael, do you even hear yourselves? Are you that devoid of understanding the history of the last 75 years? If Israel and the US wanted we could wipe out the arabs with a massive missile strikes. We don't. If they had the same armaments they WOULD use them. These people hate us. That includes you. Grow up boys, we're playing for all the marbles.

Posted by: michael bingamon | July 9, 2008 12:47 PM

So are you suggesting that we should wipe them out.?

michael bingamon,
I believe it is YOU who does not know history. Iranians are Persian, not Arab.

A nuclear Iran is bad for everyone that wants to see the region stabilized. Everyone but Obama and his sheep knows this.

Both sides like to exaggerate Iran's missile arsenal (Bush, Cheney, McCain and Israel). Iran exaggerates to deter anyone from attack. The neocons in the US and in Israel exaggerate to scare people and build the case for war. However, there really isn't anything new here.

Bush and McCain are just looking for excuses to blow up Iran and start WW3.
McCain doesn't have the temperment to be President, he's got anger management issues that he really should seek psychological help for:
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Why would it be odd for Iran to test their missiles when Bush and McCain have been showing a great desire to attack their Nation? What World Government in their right mind wouldn't prepare for attack from the United States after what was done to Iraq?

This isn't surprising at all. The first responsibility of the President of the United States is to ensure the security of the American People ... why would any other World Leader Iran or otherwise view their responsibility to their own countrymen any differently?

Lets see here... the US on the Iran borders, Israel is running test war games to prove they can preemptively attack Iran, saber rattling on behalf of the US.... are they rational? Um.... YES! That's ok. Let's let McCain be President so we can destroy the whole region, cause gases prices to $10 a gallon and start WW3.....NOT!
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Hey, America: BOMB, BOMB, BOMB IRAN!! How's that for using common sense ? Don't count on it from Senator " Questionable Conduct " McCain. He'll have us in another war before his Inaugurational Ball is over!! You can always count on the Republicans for war- and fear-mongering !! It is the cornerstone of the platform!! Vote for them America, if you want you sons and daughters dying and getting maimed in another senseless war !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

A nuclear Israel is bad for everyone that wants to see the region stabilized. Everyone, but the Republicans and the Corporations and their lackeys !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Hey, America: BOMB, BOMB, BOMB IRAN!! How's that for using common sense ? Don't count on it from Senator " Questionable Conduct " McCain. He'll have us in another war before his Inaugurational Ball is over!! You can always count on the Republicans for war- and fear-mongering !! It is the cornerstone of the platform!! Vote for them America, if you want you sons and daughters dying and getting maimed in another senseless war !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, Chicago | July 9, 2008 2:39 PM

A nuclear Israel is bad for everyone that wants to see the region stabilized. Everyone, but the Republicans and the Corporations and their lackeys !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, Chicago | July 9, 2008 2:48 PM

Don- does someone pull a string in your back before you post? Or do write everything in advance and then just copy in your response regardless of the subject?

Don Fitzgerald,

I love your posts, don't listen to heartburnedout. Wingnutters like him are starting to see how small of a minority they're going to be in 2009 and it's making them lash out and cry even more than usual.

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Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, Chicago | July 9, 2008 2:48 PM
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Don:
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Israel already has nuclear weapons. That has been the case for many years. However, they have not destabilized the region by their possession of nukes, as you predicted. To the contrary, attacks against them have been fewer and far between since they acquired nukes. That pretty much does in your theory.
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Oh, and Don, "Everyone, but the Republicans and the Corporations and their lackeys !! - is a fragment. It has neither object nor verb. Please try to communicate in whole sentences.

John McCain is a great man who has served our country with great sacrifice. I have tremendous respect for him. I hope if he wins, he will realize that without engaging Iran, there can only be more conflict. As Colin Powell remarks in his insightful article "The Craft of Diplomacy," we have to leave our enemy an honorable path of retreat.

While diplomacy with Iran may have its challenges, it should be pursued at every length. Iran has a conscription army and nearly 10 million eligible males between the ages of 18 and 32 (Posen, 2003). Iran’s conventional military potential aside, US Intelligence assesses that Iran will likely have nuclear weapons capability within the decade (Select Committee on Intelligence, 2006).

"Je vois plus que jamais qu'il ne faut juger de rien sur sa grandeur apparente." - Voltaire

We should be careful what we assume about Iran, or any country.

The United States needs to be very aware of Iran’s growing political influence in the international community as well. In a sermon commencing the month of Ramadan 2007, the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei accused the Bush administration of war crimes in Iraq, and of attempting to undermine Islam in the Middle East. Amidst chants from worshipers: “Death to America,” Khamenei stated that he has “a firm belief that one day this current US president and the American officials will be tried in a fair international court for the atrocities committed in Iraq.”

American popularity worldwide has plummeted over the 2003 invasion of Iraq and Khameinei’s word’s are falling upon a rising number of sympathetic ears. Any inclination the Bush administration has toward regime change in Iran should be given very, very careful thought. Ultimately, the situation confronting the United States regarding Iran is identical in many respects to the threat of terrorism itself:

A clash of cultures, a stubborn battle of wills, two very different ways of looking at the same reality, a global game of chicken in which neither side wants to back down. This of course is a gross oversimplification of a very complex problem, but there are some basic truths to the argument. The United States and Europe are largely divided on their views of Iran, as well as their views of how best to counter terrorism. One of the greatest challenges facing the United States in its efforts to counter terrorism, is learning to understand those who resort to its use, and developing a coherent construct within which to address terrorism.

The same can be said of Iran. And few can argue that there is no small amount of testosterone in the air, and this stubbornness can be seen on both sides of the standoff. Henry Kissinger has aptly stated that “so long as Iran views itself as a crusade rather than a nation, a common interest will not emerge from negotiations.” But this observation is equally applicable to the Bush administration as well.

Puor bien savoir les choses, il en faut savoir le detail, et comme il est presque infini, nos connaissances sont toujours superficielles et imparfaites.

Unfortunately, what we do know is that the Bush administration cannot be trusted to do what it says. Iraq taught us that lesson. Many experts have long been predicting that Bush would invade Iran before he leaves office. But of course, the Bush administration would never admit to such a thing.

On ne donne rien si liberalement que ses conseils.

But it is the man who follows his own counsel, he's the one that should lead.

John, well said. On how many fronts do they wish us to fight at once? While I do in a way find Mccains singing humorous I agree that it is not the representation that I would choose. Certainly not the cautious comments of a president to be, and how fast will we be at war with iran should he take office. I relate more with republicans than democrats, neither are evil, just different. Honestly I dont like either candidate, or ideas of either. To enter another war in a 3rd country at the same time is irresponsible, and foolhardy. Are these people blind to the ecconomic issues effecting business, and familys surrounding them? evidently so.