Barack Obama: White Sox 'serious' ball

See-
He dosen't know when to keep his mouth shut---
Especially Baseball in Chicago

My God, the man does have an intellegent thought.

He looks like a woman throwing the ball in the picture. Hey someone said they thought Michelle looked like a man in a wig. Maybe there is only one Obama. The female side and the male side.

I can't wait for the empty suit and Daley to have to put on Cubbies hats when they go to the playoffs this Fall and the Sox don't.

I think he just lost the north side vote. And I thought he was a good politician.
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He really knows how to stir it up.

I didn't know he was a LEFTY!

Jeff:

Everyone knows that true baseball fans are at Comiskey, not at Wrigley Field. I bet most of those idiots up on those rooftops don't even know what the infield fly rule is. And this fact proves how intelligent Barack is.

Cub fans not serious? How is this guy going to talk to world leaders when he can't even be diplomatic to fans at Wrigley - not going to win votes with that type of statement Senator. I love when he puts his foot in his mouth which seems to be quite frequently.

Obama is not only naive on world foreign affairs but he also does not know anything about baseball. The Chicago Cubs at the moment have the best record in baseball. And according to Obama that is not "serious" baseball. Obama must have been asleep again just as he was through 23 years of Jeremiah Wright's hateful and racist sermons.

Obviously he must not have stayed long at the Cubs game or had one too many, because I know lots of serious fans who go to games not just for the beer but to WATCH GOOD BASEBALL.

Terry - Cubs fans can spell "intelligent" (and our team is better)

His comments were definitely made in good nature and its good to see a politician stay by his "team"...then root for the team that's getting all of the attention. It's like when Michael Jordan would go to the Wrigley and be seen in a Cubs jersey. He played for the Soxs and it never seemed right. He was only there because that was the "place to be". I'm a Cubs fan and I have no problem with Barack saying that the White Sox are better...because that is he favorite team. If it was me...and in 2005 I rooted for the Cubs...even though the White Sox won the World Series.

I like Obama and will vote for him, but his comment is a complete misconception. I was at the White Sox game on Sunday, a rare occasion when the park was full. Half the fans walk around the shopping mall/airport concourse looking for churros to eat, and you are treated to ESPN jock jams on the loudspeaker after every pitch. No one was 'seriously' watching the game.

Memo to Cubs Fans:

It's just a game, folks.

GO OBAMA !

Let's see, the Cubs have John Cusack as their fan and the Sox have the soon to be Most Powerful Man on Earth as their fan.
Sounds about right.

OK, I like Sen. Obama... And this is really frivelous stuff that doesn't affect my vote in any way. But still, Senator, did you have to open your mouth and stick your foot in it like this?

Here are the Cubs, with one of their best teams ever and legitimate pennant contender, and you had to go and belittle them and their nationwide following? That's just dumb, and certainly not befitting of someone trying to win votes.

That's fine if you're a Sox fan, Senator, but the smart thing would've been to congratulate the Cubs on a great season so far and maybe hope for an "L Train" World Series this year.

At the very least, perpetuating the myth of Cubs fans not caring about the game, etc., is really tasteless.

somebody needs to get this man some jeans that fit him properly... i can't believe his wife let him stand in front of all those people looking like that. and wow, is he TRYING to lose all the cubs fans votes or what?

This goes to show what integrity our next president has! Smart man!!!

Well, there goes my vote to McCain. If he can't figure out that Cubs fans are serious about their team and can't find a way to express his "Chicagoness" other than proclaimming himself a southsider then he's got some serious issues with becoming President.

There are so many fair weather Cubs fans since they haven't started to choke yet! It's great that Obama is a true White Sox fan!

Way to stereotype. Very Presidential.

Jeff,
Only complete fair weather tools call the Chicago Cubs the Cubbies. It's a proven fact, many surveys have shown that consistently almost 66% of "fans" exiting Wrigley Field cannot name who the opposing team was.

The Cubs are the most inept franchise in the history of all sports, not just baseball. No major sports franchise in any sport has displayed the pathetic futility any where near that of the Cubs. For any Cub fan to find the gumption to display any kind of cockiness because they are FINALLY fielding a competitive team shows their lack of sports awareness. Obama's point is that the popularity of the Cubs has absolutely nothing to do with what takes place on the field. Any Chicagoan knows this. I don't have a beef with true Cubs fans...but these arrogant ones would do well to remember that their nickname is "Lovable LOSERS". If the word "loser" is in your nickname, you might hold off on any arrogance until your team actually accomplishes something(maybe in the next 100 years). Having said that, it wasn't a smart comment from a political perspective because there are a lot of Cub fans.

Once a JERK, always a JERK. His knowledge of baseball is the same as his lack of knowledge--- period. President? He couldn't even make a good dog catcher.

He should have said the tourists who sit in Wrigley Field are not serious about the Cubs. But to say Cubs fans are not serious is a slight mistake. I'm a Cubs fan. I'm serious. And I'm still undecided.

I hope he shows up at Wrigley for an October playoff game and gets the heck booed out of him on national TV. What a jerk -- which of course is redundant since he's a Sox fan.

Oh, don't get carried away. It was ever thus - the stereotype that Cub fans want to be seen while Sox fans are more serious about the game has existed for decades. My father was an Andy Frain usher back in the '50's, and he always said that Sox fans were more serious.

Honestly, Cub fans, would you rather have Obama lie about this? He spoke like a true South Sider, which he is, after all.

If all the "serious" baseball fans are at Comiskey, then I am ashamed there are so few baseball fans in Chicago. They are in first place and still can't sell out a stadium.

Hmmmmm, let's see: on the South Side you have an unending barrage of blaring music, silly scoreboard "entertainment," and the fans have to be prompted to "make some noise." With all of that crap going on, how can anybody be watching the game? Gimme good old north-side ball any time!

"Everyone knows that true baseball fans are at Comiskey, not at Wrigley Field. I bet most of those idiots up on those rooftops don't even know what the infield fly rule is. And this fact proves how intelligent Barack is."--Bob

True baseball fans at Comiskey (sorry, US Never Sellout Field)??? All 3,000 of you???? Sorry, I'd rather sell out our stadium every night and have you Sox fan morons claim it's because Cubs fans aren't real fans. The Sox will never have a fan base as large as the Cubs fans. Get over it.

FYI, South Side is two words. Just like, you know, North Side. Obama will be hosting his World Series-winning White Sox at the White House in January. Go Sox.

Not a smart political move. Why say anything alienating? He's just a typical White Sox Fan. Can't be satisfied with the strength of his own team. He has to somehow tear down Cubs fans. I went to a Sox game where they won and when I was leaving, they were chanting "Cubs suck!" How about "Sox win!"?

Bob in Atlanta:

If you were in Chicago you would know that your statement is false. If The Cell (Comisky is gone btw.) has the baseball fans, then why is the stadium always so empty? I'll admit that there are a few people who go to Wrigley because it's hip, and as with every team there are some of fair-weather fans, but there is little doubt that the true fans root for the Cubs.

Don't make it hard for me to vote for you, damn.

Obama isalready pressuring the Cubs to let him sing the 7th or throw out the first pitch in the playoffs. He has his state legislature goons threatening.

oh, and he's BETTER not show his face at Wrigley Field throwing out a pitch when the Cubs go to the World Series ....

I agree with Charlie. I'm a "serious" White Sox fan, and an Obama fan, and I'm glad that he didn't give some politically correct answer to pander to voters. Real sports fans stick with their team, no matter what.

Everyone knows you can't ride the fence when it comes to Chicago baseball. So, he has loyalty to the Sox - That's completely respectable. If he were kowtowing to the Cubs, when everyone knows he's a Sox fan, you'd be calling him a phony. I prefer it when my polititicans to stick to the beliefs, thank you.

"Let's see, the Cubs have John Cusack as their fan and the Sox have the soon to be Most Powerful Man on Earth as their fan."

Sorry Blutto, but the black and white clashes with my red, white and blue.

Plus Ozzie is like kryptonite.

Serious baseball? Yea, it may have taken the Cubs 100 years to get this far, but really, look at the standings this year. Who has the #1 record in the MLB? Sox fans, remember, this is 2008. Quit living in the past. This year IS here. At least our fans remain faithful no matter how bad they are.

even mayor Daley knows not insult the cub fans. this guy is a complete idiot!! Be careful what you wish for in a president.

Calm down people! This is why politicians lie all the time, because they make an innocent, tounge-in-cheek comment and people want to crucify him. Frankly it says a lot that, even in a semi-silly moment, he sticks to his guns and doesn't walk the fence between both teams. Let our politicians be human for once!

I guess all of those Cub fans that pack NL stadiums when the Cubs are on the road are also clueless about the Cubs, and don't know anything about baseball???

Let's face it, ALL MLB stadiums have drunk, idiotic fans that haven't a clue about what's going on with the game. To say all Cub fans only go to Wrigley Field to party in the world's largest outdoor beer garden is like saying all Sox fans are trailer park trash (all Sox fans are like those idiots that charged KC's firstbase coach). Both are inaccurate statements and are just plain stupid.

Regardless of whether you're a Cubs fan or Sox fan, why give the other team the time of day? It seems like too many fans love to hate the other team more than they love to root for their own team.

wow, if you guys are not going to vote for Obama, at least make it for a reason other than that he thinks that wrigley is a huge beer garden.

Those Cubs fans who say that the Sox aren't selling out need to check their stats!

Oh, but then again, we're talking about Cubs fans who don't know much about baseball anyway.

Christ, this guy has enough issues trying to win over the American public. But to go out and bash what has become America's team in an election year? Is this how deep the pathetic jealousy and insecurities of sox fans stretch? I mean, politicians are notorious for not trying to offend anybody while running for office. And this fool goes out of his way to take a shot at his own constituancy? Good god. Well, I was going to vote for him, shame cause it could have mattered here in Florida...

What a stupid stupid statement.

Maybe those of you complaining about the "stereotype" that is being portrayed of the Cubs fans, should look within your own organization. At least three or four times a game, the stereotype is perpetuated by the cameramen at Cubs games who continue to show the "hot girls" busy texting away on their phone in the middle of the game. They showed an ENTIRE ROW of girls completely engrossed in their cell phones in the middle of the game last Saturday, so these are the "serious" Cub fans that are being projected to the world.

"Serious baseball? Yea, it may have taken the Cubs 100 years to get this far, but really, look at the standings this year. Who has the #1 record in the MLB? Sox fans, remember, this is 2008. Quit living in the past. This year IS here. At least our fans remain faithful no matter how bad they are."

Best record in MLB? That would be the Rays. Followed by the Angels...so what's your point?

And to everyone who claims that the Cell doesn't sell out...way to go to old stereotypes. Just watch a game on TV for five minutes and you will see that they typically are selling out.

OMG! This is enough to make this South Sider do the unthinkable...Go Cubs!

Nah, still doesn't feel right.

Holy Cow! All of the Obama-haters have come out for this one. Seriously, people - he's kidding!!!! He says these things with a smile on his face. He's just foolin' around!! All you Obama-haters should read up on what your right-wing politicians joke about. Let's see... shooting people in the face, wars in the Middle East, your health care, education, the list goes on. At least Obama cracks jokes about pretty trivial things.

I'm glad to see that the right wing blow hards are lined up to comment on every article, no matter how trivial or unrelated to politics

Barack just lost something he never would have had to begin with, my vote.

Thank God, now we don't have to see him pander for votes by singing "Take me out to the ball game" at Wrigley this year.

THe Seventh Inning Stretch at Wrigley should be off limits to ALL politicians regardless of party.

Gosh, the guy was making a joke--can't handle that, anyone? If he were a Chicagoan and didn't take sides, I'd be far more worried.

It's okay. If he starts talking about the Bears, everyone here will love him again.

To all the Sox fans that say you are selling out stadiums, I am not a huge baseball fan but I was just at a Sox game last week. It was embarrassing, even to me, how few people were there. You are NOT selling out stadiums. I had a convo about this with a co-worker, who is a Sox fan, and she said she couldn't even GIVE her 3rd row tickets away because no one wanted them. Just FYI

"Best record in MLB? That would be the Rays. Followed by the Angels...so what's your point?"

Jables, You are wrong. Cubs have the best record followed by the Rays, then L.A. Maybe you should do a little fact checking yourself.

Jables maybe you should check the standings again cause last time i checked the Cubs did have the best record in baseball. Oh and that infield fly question i bet if you asked people leaving each stadium that only 25% at each stadium would know the actual rule.

I guess he’ll have to put on a reluctant smile and say something disingenuous when he has to welcome the Cubs to the White House. It would be great if one of the Cubs were then to remind him of today’s comment and force him to further elaborate. I still tend to support him (originally a Biden supporter and watching McCain), but he’s really got me wondering what he might think and say as president, if he’s going to say something so dumb about his own constituents while still their senator.

"The Sox will never have a fan base as large as the Cubs fans. Get over it." Sox fans are over it, Jonathan. It's you insecure Cubs fans who always seem to raise this point. When the Sox won the World Series, Cubs fans wrote desparate, shrill letters to the Trib that the Sox would never be as popular as Wrigley Field, oh, excuse me, the Cubs. So what? We don't care. As for distractions, at any given game at Wrigley, I'd bet more fans can name the B-list celebrity who will mangle "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" than who is pitching.

Serious baseball isn't played with a DL.

You get a glove.

You get a bat.

THAT'S baseball.

Jables-
Go to www.mlb.com
Check the standings... no other team in the MLB has won over 80 games this season besides the Cubs. Check your facts before you open your mouth.

Rays and Angels best teams? Are you kidding? Haven't looked at the standings today have you? The Cubs have been the best team all year on a constant basis, not a "who's on first" day to day like the Sox. As for Obama? Everyone is entitled to thier opinions, everyone is entitled to root for their favorite team, let him have his entitlement. As for not voting for him? Grow up people. He will gladly welcome the Cubs to the White House after they win the World Series this year as he is as gracious a man as there is. He will concede his teams failure to get past the regular season and celebrate with the Cubs, a REAL Chicago team and its FANS, REAL FANS by the way.

NObama sure is green, a good politician would not alienate the Cubs Base, it has to be a hundred times the size of the Sox's. No wonder he's losing so much ground to McCain.

Well, I was going to vote for him. But, now I think McCain might be right to question his judgement

Nobody goes to sox games anyways. The few thousands that show up, compared to the sell outs every day at Wrigley. Maybe Obama should acually go to a CUBS game, I'll buy him a beer and give him the play by play.

Looks like Obama is getting confused. He generally talks which ever way the wind blows. In Chicago, even though I myself am a Sox fan, the wind blows Cubs. And it blows Cubs nationwide on WGN.

That's why McCain should win. At least he admits he has never heard Daddy Yankee's song Gasolina yet accepts his endorsement.

Barack's totally right, no one's watching the game! They're all "band wagon" people. Go Sox!

Just because someone declares his favoritism for a team doesn't make him smart or stupid. If the man is a white Sox fan...let him be. That doesn't mean he won't be a good president. It just means he knows a World Series team from a "wait till next year" team!! Go Barack!

Anyone that says they are voting for McCain because of this is either a liar or mentally challenged.

Hey John, The Cubs as the most inept frnachise in the history of sports?? Give us a call when(ever) the Sox win their 10,000th game. And congratulations on winning the World Series after only a mere 88 years of futility. That's much better than 100 years. And only 8 playoff appearances in 107 years? Even the Cubs have 15. Try not to confuse yourself with facts.

Michelle:
You better check your facts at mlb.com/standings, best record 08/26/2008
Cubs 81-50

He can bash the cubs all he wants. It doesn't matter if he loses cub's fans votes because he is already a lock to win Illinois. Oh yeah, Pete, I agree with you on the whole DH thing, but it's a DH, not a DL. The DL is actually pretty crucial to the sport.

Yet another reason why i'm not voting for Obama

Cub baseball is "not serious"? For a man who wants to be president, Obama is, for sure, better at trash talking than diplomacy.

Regardless of being a Cubs or Sox fan this is just bad politics. Sure you can say I would go and root for the Sox in a world series but you don't have to make it a point to insult the other team (ie GOP party) What about change? Bad Bad politics. Anyone who knows an ounce about Chicago baseball knows its not a "joke" about dumping on the other team. So he has to be way out of touch b/c he isn't that dumb, is he???

Anyone--anyone--who would change something as important as a vote for president based on a candidates SPORTS affiliation is beyond moronic. It's the issues, stupid!

BCC:

Obviously you didn't read my post right. We are arguing the same thing. I was telling another poster he was wrong. The Cubs have the best record.

I bet McCain used to be a Cubs fan, before the D-backs were created. I can almost see him getting invited to a Cubs game now... ;)

I can not believe people take baseball and politics this seriously.

Wow Illinois may now vote republican congrats on possilby turning a solid lock state to a toss up.

Barney:

Have you been to Chicago?

What is it with fans who can't talk their team up without putting the other team down? Is it genetic? Nothing is more distasteful than someone who can only praise their team by putting another one down. If your team can't stand on its own merits...

As to fans and attendance, the stats prove that the Cubs have more fans than the Sox, both in total numbers and percentages. See
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance Click the column headers to sort any which way.

The Cubs AVERAGE 99.1% attendance at home throughout the year. The Sox average 75.8%. Only two teams average more than the Cubs.

Cubs are #6 in TOTAL attendance for the year (all of the ones ahead of them also have larger stadiums...), Sox are #15.

No one is going to believe that the majority of the 2.8 million fans at Wrigley this year are there just for the beer and to be seen. Or that the 2.1 million Sox fans are there to go shopping on the concourse and watch the fireworks.

Whether you're a Sox fan or a Cubs fan, give the majority of the other team's fans some credit for being fans of the game.

McCain is a Cubs fan. He was at the 1908 series.

Well, he ain't lying about the "beautiful people" at Cubs games. We've had that problem ever since '84. But the cheaper the seats, the thinner that crowd gets. Dude needs to sit in the bleachers once before the election.

Look, folks. I got no problem with a Sox fan in the White House. The Dan Ryan handles a motorcade much better than Addison or Irving Park. :P

Obama hasn't won anything yet. Neither have the Cubs.

Obama's supporters and Cubs fans would do well to remember that.

I've lived and died by the Cubs for the last 24 years of my life and I've been an Obama supporter from the beginning of his campaign. I was willing to overlook the fact that he was a White Sox fan, but this remark is enough to make me vote Republican. Where is Hillary when I need her? Also, he may be a lock to win Illinois, but not Indiana or Iowa - there are a great deal of Cubs fans in the surrounding states.

Um, Barack, my man: are you sure you want to "micturate" off a few million Chicagoans who are significantly more likely to vote Democratic than otherwise by claiming that they don't go to Wrigley to watch games? How about the tens of millions of Cub fans around the nation?

Where's your political advisor during all this? And does he have a foot/mouth-sized crowbar?

Not a smart statement. People are watching the game. The Cubs are the best team in all of baseball right now and are playing top notch ball and REAL baseball fans like myself are loving it. what happens in the bleachers or anywhere in Wrigley isnt the REAL cubs fans fault. Out of 40,000 plus people there are bound to be some there for the experience or to enjoy the history, and I wouldnt change Wrigley for anything. It is most definitely a tourist attraction, but that's obvious since its one of the few remaining classic parks left. Regardless of a Sox championship, if they didn't blow up Comisky there would be people visiting the Southside of Chicago to see that park too. I had great memories of that place even as a Cub fan. Be smarter than that Barack. You're calling out a lot of people when you say that, and you are dead wrong. Go Cubs! see you in October, IF you make it!

I feel for my brother. He's voting for Obama and is already planning his world series celebration for the Cubs. Going to be a rough fall for him as he watches the demise of both.

Y'all are kidding right? i mean, none of you take this seriously or put any political weight to it do you? No one would really change their vote based on this, right? I can't believe this crap. I don;t care if he or McCain are Packer fans. You think one of them is best for the job and you vote for them, right? You know, war, the economy, healthcare.. real life stuff folks. Baseball... entertainment.. and tha is the way Obama is treating it, entertainment. Geesh. With comments like some of these I see how our country is in the shape it is in.

Obviously, he doesn't go to Cub games--if he did, he would see all the fans sitting on the edge of their seats watching every single pitch and every single play. I think you will make a most awesome President, but your comments about Cubs baseball are much to be desired--especially to the millions of Cub fans around the world!!! Go Cubs Go!

I would have voted for him, too. Not any more with that kind of talk. McCain in '08 all the way!

Obama knows his constituents. Cubs fans are monied elites, members of the owner class. Sox fans are working class, family oriented. Go to a Cubs games and you're tripping over investment bankers and trophy wives yakking on their cell phones. Go to the Cel and you see fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, all watching the game, sharing the experience. The Sox have mullet day, the Cubs should have valet park your Mercedes day...

HA!

After watching a Cubs fan get into a fight with Elvis on Elvis night, I have little sympathy for this comment.

He's right you know!

Just goes to show he has no idea what he's talking about. Wrigley bleachers and rooftops are for partying, no denying that. But the majority of fans in the stands know the game and watch the game. It's time to give up on this argument and pay attention to your own team.

I love how the Cubs fans are so upset by this. He's a Southsider, and has done a lot of work to help communities on the south side. Do you want a president that's going to flip on the drop of the hat. If that's the case I guess you voting hopes left with Clinton, or maybe your going for McCain. If you don't like Obama just admit you don't like the guy don't use baseball as an excuse.

Go to the Cell and you see Sox fans run on the field attack coaches.

He just lost my vote!

Are you kidding me?! What an idiotic statement. Just another example of what a snob this know-nothing creep is. Obama is not even "from" Chicago . . . so he needs to give up trying to play the "lifelong" Sox fan. I'm not even a Cubs fan and this still infuriates me.

I don't care, Bob and Jackson. I know the Cubs have the best record in baseball and the Sox and their angry manager can't even keep first place in their division. I've gone to games in both stadiums and had a great time every time I was at Wrigley but I've been to the Cell Out when their were more vendors in the stands than fans.
It's going to be fun watching Daley groan through the presser where he has to put on that Cubs hat.

Agreed--anyone who said they're going to change their vote to McCain is a blundering fool. This is baseball people.

Once again I am reminded why I like this guy. Wouldn't it have been SO easy to make a safe statement? Perhaps that although he is a South Sider and has always been a Sox fan, BOTH teams are great and he would be cheering for them BOTH! THEN would all the haters be happy????

Come on, Cub fans. Would you rather he patronized you and pretended to like both teams, like our governor? Give the man credit for picking a side and sticking to it. He had nothing to gain as a politician by disrespecting the country's most popular team. He did it out of allegiance to his team. I know that's confusing to Cub fans, who regularly boo their own players, but that's what fans do.

Didn't like Obama before these comments.

Really don't like Obama after these comments.

I suspect Obama will have a lot of time to ponder "what went wrong" in November. This applies equally to his baseball team as to the election.

This is just another reason not to vote for him. There are many more......GO CUBBIES!

Brian,

I have many friends that are Cub fans that actually know baseball. Even they admit that Cub fans have nothing to be cocky about until they stop being synonomous with futility. Their only claim to fame is their huge fan base, which is the result of superior marketing(WGN), transplant fans from other cities who moved to the north side and jumped on the bandwagon(which is ok) and mostly the wrigley field/wrigleyville area experience(which I do not argue is a good time). I repeat, you are the "lovable LOSERS'! Congrats on having so many fans but they don't hand out trophies for that.

And Julie, you don't get sarcasm, do you?

Seriously, if anyone allows an individual's sport's team affiliation to determine their vote, this country is in worse shape than I thought. Newsflash idiots: Baseball is a game, being President is the most important job in the world.

Also, the idea that Cubs fans are outraged by Obama perpetuating the stereotype about them need to read the tripe about Sox fans Cubs fans consistently post on these forums. White Sox fans must constantly read how they're poor, uneducated hillbillies while the elitest north siders are loveable losers. What stereotype is more hurtful and damaging???

Get a clue you idiots!

Go Sox
Go America
Go away Cubs fans

Yeah. A jumbotron with ads, lame kisscams and shell games, anything to keep "fans" interested. "that's baseball" A whiffleball field inside the the stadium, because we don't want kids actually watching the game. "that's baseball" An actual bar behind the outfield fence. "that's baseball" Lame, tired explosives displays that only the 4 and under crowd and Sox fans find entertaining. "that's baseball"
And, Barack Hussain Obama, please explain how, if Cubs fans only go to have a beer, why do they triple the Sox in TV ratings? People are watching TV to see people drinking beer? Please explain that, B. Hussain.

Ehh, what should we expect from a guy who calls the despicable Emil Jones a mentor, gets home loans from Tony Rezko, and chants "si se puede" at rallys promoting the breaking of this country's laws? The next time anyone in his campaign complains about the Republicans stereotyping any group, it's pure hypocricy.

The fools who vote for this product of the media will be denying that they did in two years.

Obama seems to imply that "beautiful" people can't be "serious." Hasn't he seen Paris' video yet? The latest one, not the one that put her on the map.

So a guy who shows up in Chicago from Hawaii / Maylasia / Kansas / Los Angles / New York, to work for a law firm defending slum lords is a “true south sider” and feels like he has the standing to tell me that after being born and raised here fifty years ago and attending Cubs games for thirty five of them…. I’m not a serious fan.

Every voice should be heard, except Alice Palmer’s. He and his lawyer friends saw to that.

The Politics of Hope are his credo, unless sending 8,000 e mails out encouraging the media to look at an opponents sealed child custody records benefits Himself, then it’s ok to be slimy.

He’s going to “Build Bridges” unless you’re a political opponent that Himself can pilfer an entire political agenda from, then it’s fine to tell the country a thousand times that “She can’t be trusted”.

And your knight in shining armor who will reach across us all to unite us… leaves behind a state senate district that is underdeveloped, gang infested and poverty ridden and a state party that is the nations model for partisanship and political corruption, thanks in large part to his buddy Tony Rezko and his padron, Richie Daley.

He’s ripped apart his church, his senate district, his state and now the carpetbagger tries his hand at sports in his attempt to polarize America even further.

Incredible

It reminds me of the time someone asked Kerry whether he was a Rolling Stones or Beatles man. He gesticulated back and forth ultimatly saying they were both good. Well, yeah, we know they are both good, that wasn't the question...

Kerry irked me on that day. He showed that he was fearful of aggravating any potential bloc of voters to the point where he was unable to commit to even a simple opinion on a rock 'n roll band.

I give Obama some credit here. Imagine the howls of disdain he would face if he split the difference, said he liked them both, or made some other weak politically calculated glib answer.

This is a great example of how Obama is different from politicians we've seen before. That uniqueness is running head long into a lot of cynicism and this is resulting in a lot of the vitriol on the display here.

It looks like many of you need to re-read why people are upset. It's not because he is a Sox fan, it's because he bashed the Cubs. He could have said "I'm a Sox fan" and left it at that. But no. He had to be a typical Sox fan and try to bash the Cubs and their fans.
It's not the team he roots for, but the lack of class, and social responsibility he has shown in these comments.

South sider, i thought he was Hawaii 5-0bama

the cubs have more than 80 wins because they are 12-4 against the PIRATES. over valued indeed.

I am a dyed-in-the-wool Reopublican but I do admire Obama's loyalty to his team. Southsiders are Sox fans; Northsiders are Cubs fans. So what? Some people like apples and some people like oranges. The world does not revolve around baseball. Some of the responses from Cubs' fans were very juvenile. Criticizing his jeans, for instance. Come on.

I don't care he likes the Sox and not the cubs but when he trash talks the fans publicly this is just not smart. I can only imagine what kind of bush-esk comments he will make if elected president.

He stands by his baseball team, is that like the same way he stood by his pastor and stood by his grandmother - you know - the typical white person...?

I hope he never stands for me!

John:

If you check your history, we dropped that horrible nick-name years ago. We are just "Loveable".
It was done out of necessity. As we neared winning our 10000th game, we realized, that our total winning percentage proved we are not losers. We just haven't been able to make it to the big dance in 43 years.

Open mouth - insert foot

I can't stand this man. He represents the NORTH SIDE as well as the south side in the Senate. Not that one person can name something he's done as our Senator.

The Cubs have the best record in the MLB right now---what a badly timed remark.

When was the last time this chump went to a game ?!?! He doesn't know squat about the sport.
NO-BAMA

McCain was a Cubs fan, but he had his heart broken back in '06 when they lost the Series to the White Sox.

Cubs had the best record in baseball that year too.

Wow, I never leave comments but I just had to for this one! I am one of the biggest Cubs fans! When I go to a game, I sit there and never really even leave my seat, my eyes stay on the field watching the game the whole time! And I know most other Cubs fans are the same way because I have seen it! If Obama is a Sox fan, he probably never has been to a Cubs game so he doesn't know what it is really like. Of course you are going to get the people that go just to get drunk and party, but they do that at Sox games too, as well as at any game! Obama's comment was insulting and rediculous!

What a stupid comment. He wants to alienate the entire North Side? When we get to the World Series I think he should be banned from wearing a Cubs cap and attending the games. What a fool. Sign me a serious Cubs fan.

He's not really a southsider. Didn't grow up here.

MIchelle is actually the big Sox fan and converted him.

Kind of like she made him a Christian. On that point I think he probably was non religious before they met. Not Christian, not Muslim.

Yeah, I'm sure Obama spends many a sleepless night wondering if he'll carry Illinois.

Personally, I don't care what the Sox are doing. I don't care what their record is. I don't take the time to figure out what their won/loss stats are against another team. I don't find it necessary to bring up any awful moment in their history. I'm just happy cheering for the Cubs and when they are having a good year, I enjoy it all the more.

Way to perpetuate an ignorant stereotype, Barack, you hypocrite. Hey, I can do that, too: All Sox fans are borderline-illiterate, wife-beating hillbilly field-chargers. See what I did there? I took some isolated incidents, added media and fan-invented stereotyping and applied it an entire group of people. Aren't you from Hawaii anyway?

mel - perhaps he's going for the indie rocker vote with those tight jeans

Who cares what baseball team he likes? This Sox fan would vote for him even if he were (gasp) a Cubs fan, such trivial comments are funny, and show him as human. People need to get a grip.

Well I have been against Barrack from the start, and this confirms it. I mean come on, I've spoken to real White Sox fans before, and even they admit that the Cubs fans, are some of the most passionate around. Saying Wrigley doesn't consist of real fans is a stereotype. Sure in the really expensive seats, it's all business people who don't care, but look at the Maple Leafs, here in Toronto, we have the most passionate fans in the NHL, yet at the ACC, hardly anyone in the lower bowl stands up for a goal, because it's all business people, so to say something foolish like that is shallow, not thought through and quite simply bone-headed, a lot Barrack on the campaign trail. My personal favourite part is when he said, I'm not a fairweather fan, yet every REAL White Sox fan, can acknowledge that the Cubs have a good fan base, so what he said, screams to me that he is indeed a fairweather fan. Also, why would you make such a political mistake. I mean, no one will vote for you for saying that, but people will surely vote against you for saying it. This man is more slimy and stupid than I previously thought.

For crying out loud people, get a grip! The man is a south sider, of course he's going to cheer for the Sox. This rivalry has gone on for so long, you all act so surprised that Obama has an opinion on it.

And any tool that would vote or not vote for Obama based on his baseball team preference is a complete wast of carbon.

Goofy Scrubs fans. Once again you show your unjustified arrogance for all to see. It's baseball he's talking about and atleast he isn't lying to you like every other politician. You should be embracing him for being so honest w/ you.
And by the way he's absolutely right and all of you know it. That's what hurts you so bad. Tourists and people who moved to the yuppie side from other cities who care nothing about baseball fill up your park.

The man answered a reporters question honestly instead of giving a 'politically correct' answer. The few longstanding diehard Cub fans making comments acknowledge as much in stating just that. The rest of you are showing he's right about many of the people at Wrigley Field.

Mr. Obama may be quick-witted, but his comments about Cubs fans is no evidence of that. I seriously question the intelligence of any individual--White Sox fan or not--who questions whether Cubs fans are true baseball fans. The very definition of a baseball fan ought to be Cubs fans, that is fans who stick by their team through thick and thin--come hell or high water. And we've had all of that and then some and still remain Cubs fans. I won't trash talk the White Sox, but I will question the IQ of any White Sox fan perpetuating the myth that Northsiders are in it for the beer. Don't get me wrong, beer is good, but the Cubbie swagger is better. Lou for President!

Lifelong Cubs fan here and voting for Obama. I'll dumb this down so the morons can understand... THE "SERIOUS BASEBALL" COMMENT WAS A JOKE. And so what if he's a White Sox fan? You'll actually base your vote for President of the United States on that? After reading some of these posts, is there any wonder how so many people were stupid enough to re-elect George W. Bush? These are the same people who think Stephen Colbert plays himself on "The Colbert Report."

Sorry to let all of you Sox fans down... but they wont be playing come October... like a previous poster said... Obama will be sitting at home in IL asking himself what went wrong... with the Sox and with his failed campaign....

Go Cubs!!!
N-Obama

Nothing like dealing in stereotypes is there? I hope this guy never sets foot in Wrigley ... he can stay on the south side.

He was joking around, let's keep it loose people.

What an idiot. So he is a junior congressman and a junior baseball student. Sox fans aren't fair-weather fans? The ones who don't show up to the ballpark when their team stinks? That is the very definition of fair-weather fans. Moron.

I wonder if people who make blanket statements like "They don't even watch the game at Wrigley" or "Everyone knows that true baseball fans are at Comiskey, not at Wrigley" have ever actually attended a game at Wrigley field, or is this just some convenient stereotype they like to perpetuate? Broad generalizations are rarely accurate, and these examples are about as dumb as they get.

The problem is not that he is a Sox fan -- the problem is that he decided it's OK to take a shot at Cubs fans. he can root for the Sox all he wants -- that's fine. But the skinny twerp doesn't need to take a shot at me and all Cubs fans on national TV. Great judgment, BO.

Got any other stupid ideas you want to share with us?

The guy is a sports fan. It's not about alienating anybody. Just like every other baseball fan, he's passionate about the team he likes. I have yet to come across either a Cubs fan or a Sox fan that doesn't talk trash about the other team... He's a typical sports fan making comments with the typical sarcasm we all do when referring to a rival team... that's it... Let the man have an opinion.

Okay people the issue is simply this: The Cubs have not won anything in 100 years and are made out to be the greatest baseball team Chicago has to offer. Even when the Sox won in 05 no one seemed to make a peep. Now don't get me wrong the Cubs are on fire this year...but haven't we seen this same song and dance before. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing (cheering for the Cubs) and expecting a different result (winning the World Series)

I believe in some stereotypes, too.
Such as, anyone with Hussain as part of their name is a Muslim who has terroristic leanings.

i hope people do not base their vote on a candidate's baseball affiliation. whoever you vote for (and i hope you do vote), please base it on rational thoughts...step away from yourself as a cubs or sox fan - i know it's hard and i'm a die hard cubs fan (and proudly voting for obama)...this election is more important than an MLB affiliation. get over it.

"The man is a south sider"
By way of Hawaii and Indonesia. Which side of the city, again, is it that has all the "tourists" and "yuppie side from other cities who care nothing about baseball fill up your park?" Yes, it's important to have South Side Hawaiians filling up your park.

NO TRUE AMERICAN IS A WHITE SOX FAN. FIRST LACK OF RESPECT FOR THE FLAG AND NOW LACK OF RESPECT FOR THE CUBS. HE DEFINITELY LOST MY FAMILY'S VOTE.

If your presidential vote is going to be affected by a candidate's allegiance to a professional sports team, you might want to consider staying home during the election, regardless of who you're going to vote for. Kudos to Obama for not hedging his bets and not doing the politically expedient thing (like so many other politicians) who prefer to jump on the bandwagon of whichever team is currently popular. Behavior such as this (not capitulating to popular opinion when it compromises your personal beliefs) is the hallmark of a pricipled man, if not necessarily a politically astute one in this case. I'm a lifelong Sox fan, and I'm perfectly willing to admit that there are many more Cub fans than there are of us. I've also felt tremendous sympathy for those Cub fans who I know who've supported the team throughout thick and thin and not just when the popularity of the neighborhood among 20-somethings turned it into the largest outdoor bar in Chicago. Let's try moving Wrigley to a neighborhood similar to the one where Sox play, and we'll a resurgence of real Cub fans in the seats @ Wrigley, as opposed to the Barbie and Ken set which infest it these days. BTW, I haven't decided for whom I'm going to vote yet, but it certainly won't be influenced by something as insignificant as this.

this is the first thing obama has said that i agree with. cold day somewhere....go sox & mccain!!!

Obama should stick to politics. I'm a serious Cubs fan that pays attention and stay until the last out. However, I'm still voting for Obama. Hopefully, the Northsiders will shut him up come late October. This is the year! It's gonna happen!

Baseball is played with 9 players on each team. That's what they do at Wrigley. I'm not sure what sport they play on the South Side, something about a guy sitting there but just taking at bats and the guy pitching doesn't have to hit. Doesn't sound like baseball to me.

Won't effect my vote however.

James "So a guy who shows up in Chicago from Hawaii / Maylasia / Kansas / Los Angles / New York, to work for a law firm defending slum lords is a “true south sider” and feels like he has the standing to tell me that after being born and raised here fifty years ago and attending Cubs games for thirty five of them…. I’m not a serious fan."

Are you kidding me? So anyone not born and raised in the south side cannot be a current south side fan?

You're really that incensed because someone made an off-the-cuff comment playing off of a decades-long rival.

Seriously, you need to get a real issue.

Oh he will flop if the cubs win the world series. He has been getting real good at that lately.and will be an expert by the time the cubs win..

It looks like people have taken my comment out of context. I did not say he should lose votes or will lose votes, I said it was a political blunder, which is probably true, and it is simply my opinion. I also said I am not against purely for his comments about the Cubs, I have been against him from the start. Why don't you people jumping on my posts, go back and actually read it through? And no it does not "pain" us to know that it's true, it's a stereotype. I would like to say that I acknowledge that the White Sox have a fine set of passionate fans, it doesn't mean I like them, but I am civilized enough to know they exist. My problem here is, everyone is saying it's true, yet they base it on 1 thing, 40,000 people. I mean, I'm sure I could find 40,000 fairweather White Sox, they exist with every team. I'm not trying to deny they exist with the Cubs, I'm simply saying that what Obama said simply isn't true, and everyone should be able to admit that. My question to you Sox fans is a sequel to the TV ratrings comment. I would like to know how many people are on your season ticket wait list? Because I know personally I'm number 92521 on the Cubs wait list, because I could not get on until I knew I'd be heading to Chicago

I am a diehard Cubs fan who appreciates Senator Obama's passionate support of his team. A true Sox fan despises the Cubs as a true Cubs fan depises the Sox. Would you have him be a Hillary wearing, in her case, a Yankees or Cubs hat depending on the day of the week.

Well, he definitely earned the vote of the Sox fans in Chicago.....all 12 of them.

obama and the rest of white sox nation is just jealous that no one cares about them, even if they won a world series. chicago, as well as the rest of the country, will always be cubbie nation.

but its all good, the cubs will win in october, and obama will win in november. we'll call it even.

He needs to learn how to be a politician. When the cubs blow it this year (and they will) he needs to snicker and high five his family in private.

You people disgust me. Baseball has nothing to do with running the free world. This country is filled with morons, but one need only patrol these forums to find that the percentages are probably much higher than even the most bitter cynic would think.

It's OK for Obama to be a Sox fan. But don't you dare show up in October looking a first pitch or 7th inning photo op. That's just a few weeks from the election, and that's why it was a dumb move to close the door on that opportunity.

Cubs fans, lets stop the attendence remarks. If you are true cubs fans you would remember the days when they couldn't give tickets away to get into wrigley.And if you don't remember someone should have informed you or researched on your own. It didn't become the "thing to do" until Mr. Harray Caray came to wrigley from comiskey. Our popularity is from Caray and WGN in the early 80's. CUBS FANS (if you really are) GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!! You make real cubs fans like me look like a fool because I have to defend these arguments all the time.

Ronald Reagan was a Cubs fan and that's the ONLY good thing that can be said about him.

His comments make political sense. cub supporters are mostly wealthy people coming from wealthy backrounds and are thus republican. The White Sox supporters are generally working people and even the rich one's come from modest backrounds and are democrats.

"Everyone knows that true baseball fans are at Comiskey, not at Wrigley Field.Posted by: Bob "Hussein" inAtlanta | August 26, 2008 8:46 AM "

TRUER WORDS HAVE NOT BEEN SPOKEN. CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT COMISKEY DOESN'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE!!

Mr Goodbar-
They may be watching the game, but it doesn't mean they understand what is going on.

I'm a diehard Cubs fan but if you other Cubs fans out there are going to base your vote on comments like this (especially when you didn't hear the way he said it and especially when you can't respect a man's loyalty to his favorite team) then you're idiots. That's ok though, just because the vast majority of Cubs fans are intelligent and reasonable doesn't mean there aren't a couple of morons out there.

Man, Cubs fans have to be the most sensitive fans in the baseball.

The slightest statement that that they have not won in 100 years and that many fans come to wrigley and don't really pay attention to the game and Cub fans get just plain unglued.

Point one is a verifiable fact and point two is a observation that has come from many, many sources.

I would hope someone would start 12 step meetings for Cub fans..........Step 1-repeat after me-I'm powerless over the corp entities that have kept just enough talent on the field to keep the turnstiles moving, no more, no less, with no interest in winning a world championship

Hey cub fans. A little shrill aren't you? Is that what 100 years of losing does to you?

Here's what I don't get. Why is it the only way he can show his support for the White Sox is by bashing the Cubs?

I hate this type of banter between fans. If you want to argue we're better because of the players on the field, that's great. This issue of who has better fans, who cares more, who's actually watching the game is ridiculous. I've been to several major league ball parks and every stadium has a large contingent who really don't know the game that well or aren't really watching. In Pittsburgh, 14,000 people show up. In Los Angeles, they don't get there until the 4th inning. But, so what?

Are we going to make baseball an elitist game where you have to pass a test to attend? Go to the game, support your team and don't worry about the other team's fans. They are immaterial to your support of your team.

Right now, as a Cubs fan, I could care less about the Sox. I will worry about them if we meet in October.

If any of you people are honestly not going to vote for Obama because of the baseball team he roots for, you don't deserve to have a vote.

I really love how some of you are taking this so seriously. He's a baseball fan. He was asked a question about which team he preferred, and he answered it in a way that most of us would have. I'm not seeing the problem. Oh noes! He doesn't like the Cubs! Cannot compute!!

Oh my god! All of you cubs fans are so so sensitive. Grow up he said it as a joke. Yeah he is a sox's fan, but he has also been extremely loyal to the city of Chicago and the state of Illinois. His two major campaign announcements where in Springfield, and he has given numerous speeches throughout the primaries in Chicago. For anyone to say they wont vote for him because of what baseball team he favors, shows that you shouldn't be voting in the first place. I highly doubt hes had a chance to watch a whole lot of baseball this season anyways. Their are so many important issues in this election besides the fact that Barack is a sox's fan. Saying you wont vote for him because of his comments proves the ignorance and stupidity of the Chicago Cubs fan base. Some of the comments posted are just not true. They are obviously false, and come from people who have no sense of reality. Please actually win something before you post about how great everything cubs is. Somehow cub's fans think they have the best team,fans,stadium,players,management, and side of the city, but you have nothing to back that thought process up with. Winning the world series is all that matters. Doesn't the fact that Obama is a sox's fan prove he is a good decision maker. The reality is it has been a 100 years, and that doesn't changed because your in first on Aug. 26. Everyone from Chicago knows what Cubs stands for Completely Useless By September. I don't understand what the problem is Barack has come out and said he is a die hard Bears fan, and that is more than enough to get my vote. Anyone who calls themselves a true cubs fan should also be a Bears fan, so whats the problem

Kathy - First of all, take the all caps off. People shouldn't be allowed to post on blogs unless they have a basic idea of how to type.

Second, it will always be Comiskey first and foremost to most Sox fans. I always refer to the park as Comiskey.

i,m a die hard sox fan Obama you are dead right, thats the reason i hate the cubs fan thay know nothing about the game of baseball thay are still blaming Dusty for the ball players mistakes.

He forgot to mention that Cubs fans are thin skinned

Another good reason not to vote for this man.

I can't wait to see the stupid fool obama lose not once, but twice in the next couple months. First the Cubs going to the World Series and his Sox not going because they can't beat the Rays or Angels. Second the idiot losing the election big time come November. GO CUBS!!! GO MCCAIN!!!

Obama: Ok, I have to be a southsider today. It’s for a sports station… My team is the Sax?

Axlerod: No, the Sox, and you hate the Cubs, remember/
Daley: They don’t watch the game, they sit around and drink beer. And they’re not overweight, pasty and unattractive either. We hate em.

Obama: But doesn’t that go against everything I talk about?

Daley: Like our sheep care about that!
Axlerod: Just keep with the pretty speeches and leave the thinking to us ok.

Axlerod: Just mention Walter Payton no matter how stupid the context, that’ll make you look like a real Chicagoan.

Obama: Do I still hate my pastor too?

…..and at band camp, at my Muslim School in Malyasia, we would all sit around and watch the south side hitmen, and Richie Zisk and talk about those stupid Cub fans and I played the flute and after the game when everyone was gone I would…

So - Obama is a 'rookie' and he folows a Triple A ball club

How can the Cub fans be considered fair weather when the team hasn't won the Series in almost 100 years? Seems to me they are more loyal and die-hard than the usual fan. Obama the great divider, heh...

Obama is not just a bad sport with bad manners, he's out of touch, elitist and lacks good judgment. He should get his nose out of the air and enjoy the game. The Cubs are on top, not serious? Hmmmmm.

You can be a Sox fan if you want but why do you have to insult the Cubs and their fans...and does he know how many of us there are in this country?!

Figures the Marxist that throws like a girly man would be a Sox fan.

I don't understand why Cubs fans are so upset, this is classic Obama. During the primaries he was up in Green Bay and told the crowd that his team is the Bears. I mean come on, after the last eight years it's nice to see someone with some honesty and integrity might be in the White House

Mr. Obama, that comment was not worthy of a senator, nor a presidential candidate. I'm an old Chicago "south sider" who has always been a BEARS, HAWKS, and SOX fan. I've always been for all "Chicago teams"I'm also one of those old die hard CUBS fans, who now happens to live in Nevada. There are many, many CUB fans all over the country. My mom, who still lives near Chicago, called me and took over an hour to tell me all about what you said... You can be a 'SOX fan Mr. Obama, but I think you just blew it when it comes to the "CUBS fan" vote. Really...

Please, please, please. No one change your vote for Obama based on his choice of teams. This is an important election.

Jeeez...the wrigley fans sure have their panties in a knot over this! With as well as the cubs are doing, why do you care? Oh, that's right....the cubs and wrigley are all about marketing, the feel good image, and popularity.

Guess what-not everyone loves your little cubbies. Then when confronted with that fact, I simply can't believe the retorts about attendance (sarcasm intended).

Enjoy your season, your attendance, and your "celebrity" conductors cub fans. You weren't always the belle of the ball, and neither will you always be.

GO SOX!

Not only is he not white, he's a Sux fan.

McCain has my vote, GO CUBS

What is it about Democrats and the Cubs? Obama was trying to stay out of the same trap that Hillary fell into (flip-flopping teams), yet still managed to stick his foot in his mouth.

Doug and KATHY:

I spend the first 40 years of my life in Chicago. I spent many a summer afternoon being just about the only fan in the upper deck at Wrigley Field, cheering whoever was playing the Cubs. White Sox fans know their baseball. They believe in supporting their team. Let the Cubs go through some losing years and we'll see how many "fans" show up on those cold days in September to watch a loser.

Oh, and about John McCain?? When he was in PA, he told his supporters that when he was in a POW Camp, he gave the Pittsburgh Steelers "Steel Curtain" defensive line as the other flyers in his group. Unfortunately for grandpa, the Steel Curtain defense did not exist until years AFTER he was no longer a POW, and in his book, he said he gave the roster for the Green Bay Packers!!! TheOldRoman has it right - McCain is still upset that as a child, his heart was broken by the 1906 Cubs.

Oh, and for all you Cub fans who don't know who The Old Roman was?? He was Charles Comiskey, the owner of the White Sox.

Hey some of my best friends are Sox fans.

Obama's comments equates to nothing more than petty jealousy. The Sox won the series in '05 and no one cared--That's pretty sad.

The "Old Roman", what a guy...such a great owner that he drove his own players to losing the World Series on purpose to spite him, rather than try to win it. 8 Sox players would rather be banned for life from baseball rather than win one for "Old Roman". If that is "serious" baseball, than the Sox can have Obama as their #1 fan.

MLB should have a rule that if you don't win it all in a hundred years your team should be dissolved and a new one started up somewhere else. Wrigley could be used as a dog park. It still would probably sell out.

In re the writers who posted that the Sox won it in 2005 and no one cared, I seem to remember that over 2 million people showed up for the parade. How many did the cubs draw when they won it all in 1908?

Dave S. good point on the "over 2 million people" that showed up for a parade 3 years ago. That's only slightly less than the total paid attendance for all Sox home games that year.

Plus, since Sox fans can't help but always bring up what happened 100 years ago, let's also remind them that their franchise nearly ruined the game 89 years ago. Go Black Sox!

In Chicago, baseball is more than just a game. Sure the tourists that come to Wrigley are there for the experience. However, there are countless serious baseball fans throughout the U.S. that bleed Cubbie BLUE. I hope Senator Obama will be savvy enough to be more diplomatic on this subject in the future.

Typical Sox fan! But hey, if my team had such a small fan base compared to another team in the same city, I would take every chance to bash them haha. And if the Sox games are real baseball, then why caint they sell out? Unless they are playing the Cubs of course

lol@all of these sore cubs fans. voters have the most ridiculous criteria when it comes to voting. what does obama being a sox fan have to with him being better or worse than mccain? this explains why candidates spend so much time talking about the most arbritrary issues when there's so many more important things just so they can appeal to a certain set of idiots that unfortunately make up a good portion of the voting population.

BASEBALL ISN'T THAT SERIOUS.
THE PRESIDENCY IS.

DONE, he lost my vote!

GO SOX! and Obama should stick with basketball.

People that are getting upset about this are funny to me. The man is Sox fan. Get over it. He's going to say stuff like that.

Although I am a southside fan (go sox) - I can't beleive how people are getting so bent out of shape about this - Hil'bill'ary can say she was under sniper fire going on a political trip - and it was proven to be an outright LIE, yet that's ok. He says he's a Sox fan and speaks the truth and people get bent out of shape. Let's put this in context people, it's a baseball fan sticking up for his favorite team. I wonder what would have happened if he said he was a Yankee fan living in Chicago.

Sox fans don't always bring up what happenned 100 years ago. We like to bring up what hasnt happenned since then. Also, if attendance and popularity measure the worth of a team then disney world would win the championship every year. cub lemmings remember its the baseball that counts.

Because Baseball = Leading the free world, AM I RIGHT?

Please folks, he's just a fan stating his opinion.Don't base your vote on whether or not the guy likes the Cubs.

Are you people who wouldn't vote for Obama because he's a Sox fan serious? Would you really pick your candidate based on what baseball team he rooted for? The morons really have won.

These comments reaffirm my position that 95% of Americans aren't worthy of a vote

He just lost A LOT OF VOTES!!!! i used to think he was a good candidate until he dissed the Cubs.... I didnt know serious baseball is led by a Latino Clown and just because us north siders know how to party (take the White Sox WS celebration for instance) doesnt make us non-serious fans. I bet Cubs fans follow baseball a lot more than those wussy south siders!!!!

1st and foremost, joe...kill yourself. lets bring up the blacksox from over 80 years ago...when the cubs have been consistantly for over 80 years not won the dance...get real...

He was wrong about Wright, and he was wrong about this one. But he's still far less likely to start WWIII than McCain. Visit www.obamacubs.com to support both Obama AND the Cubs.

Yes, to make fun of Cubs fans isn't the best thing politically, but he was asked about a GAME. He answered that question as a FAN. What if he said he liked the Cubs and then mocked the Sox. Would you Cubs fans be up in arms then? Of course not! You'd just cheer him on like the Sox fans are doing now. Most of you are probably hypocrites (but of course will deny it).

If you really like baseball, you should be amazed that he actually likes a team enough to pick one instead of saying "both". But even then, why does it matter? He's passionate enough about baseball to have loyalty to a team, isn't that in itself important?

Some of you say it matters because he'll say something stupid as President. That's valid, but many of you are talking smack in your posts right now. When you go to work or go home, do you keep talking trash to your boss or you family? Of course not! When it comes to America, part of sports IS talking smack about the other team AND the fans! Why? Because your team is the best in every possible way, INCLUDING the stadium, the food, the cheerleaders, and of course, the fans. It's all part of the fun!

God knows you can't love the Mets without thinking about how rude and obnoxious those damn Yankee fans are....

Please tell me everybody is joking??? It was good nature humor...the kind of stuff you hear at the corner bar every day and you guys are gonna hate him for being a true fan?? i guess you would rather have somebody with no back bone or affiliation to anything! CUBS FANS, ARE YOU ACTUALLY THAT STUPID????

If you're judging someone based on sports loyalty rather than how he feels on issues at home and in the world that matter, you don't deserve to vote.

If the cubs fans are not going to vote for obama after he made those comments. Then you guys are idiots for not voting because of his preference for a baseball team. and last time i checked we have more rings then the cubs. GO SOX!

John--You state "First the Cubs going to the World Series and his Sox not going because they can't beat the Rays or Angels." That logic extended, the Cubs will not WIN the World Series, as they are 0-and-3 against Tampa Bay this season. In fact, the Cubs are 6-and-9 against the American Leage. The American League is CLEARLY the superior league this season. The AL was 149-and-103 against the NL this season. I'm not saying the Cubs are a bad team...I'm just saying their record might be a bit misleading as they play in a very weak league.

OK, I'm a life long (66) Years of Cubs! I'd rather he's honest rather than hillary whosays she Lovessssssssssssthe Cubs and lives in God for give her New York. Who do u thing McCain's going to be for?? Duh!!
Go Obama. We'll win him over when we kick the Sox butts in the World Series!!

I'm a Cub Fan and a Barack Fan. Hey, to each his own. If he loves the Sox that's his perogative! Go Cubs! Go Obama!

Well, I respect his opinion but as a Cubs fan myself, all I can say is that I'm sick and tired of folks saying that we're not serious. Go to a game at Wrigley and ask a few people in the stands questions about the team. I'm positive that you will get at least 8 out of 10 ligit answers.

As far as the Sox go, look at their games on TV, the stands are practically empty. Now he calls that serious? Please.

well, the whitesox made it farther than the cubs in the playoffs,and obama is going to be our next president,our best president to date! argue all u want with these facts and i will just be writing something to this affect after his 8 yrs are over!

WOW, apparently to cub fans,
attendance is what wins the world series.
anyway i work at wrigley and sell shirts, while working 7out of 10 customers ask me which player is best?, or which player that you sell here is a hall of famer.
oh and i agree that if comiskey field was still around we'd have a huge attendance as well,
but the thing that pisses me off the most, is that the sox fans follow games, listen to it on the radio, others are working and providing for their families,
while cub fans have all the time in the world,
and when i do get free tickets to cubs games(which are front row) i see people texting, reading books, and watch dvds in a portable dvd player for gods sake!
oh and the best is seeing all the prior/sosa shirts

Not only is Barack a winner, but he even roots for one. I bet McCain's a Cubs fan.

Go Sox, Go Obama, the most powerful man in this world is a SOX fan....can't stop laughing at all the posts predicting the Cubs' winning the world series and McCain winning...what a joke...Obama rules!!!

Obama's going to call Mark Cuban up and offer him some tax incentives to buy the Cubs and move them to Dallas.

Been a Sox fan since 1951 at the age of 13. Lived way northwest in Spring Grove, IL.

I have many friends that are good loyal Cub fans. They resent the Cubs management (until the Cubs went up for sale) never pulling the trigger on a big free agent like New York Mets/Yanlees, Angels, Red Sox -all winners. Sox can't afford it. They need luck. I think other than real Cub fans, Cub history and Wrigley attracts a following that really isn't a baseball following. Sorry - not unlike the Bulls in the Jordan era. Go Sox! Go Cubs, too! My Cubby friends deserve better.

I've been to Wrigley, and Barack is absolutely right. On the South Side people are into the game.

I've been to Wrigley, and Barack is absolutely right. On the South Side people are into the game.

haha wow did u know in baseball surveys the White Sox pull more fans from the city While the Cubs pull more fans from the burbs? and also as much as i hate the cubs(which is a lot) i respect those true cubs fans who know their stuff which if u count int probably a lot i can recall at least 10 situations in which i new the cubs roster better than a so called cubs fan. i also read something about john cusak being a cubs fan yet in his movie room 1408 i thinks its called he is wearing a white sox hat!

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