McCain: Obama 'wants to forfeit' Iraq

Yeah, so

We've know this for a long time.

The entire DNC wants to forfiet.

So, I guess the deal that is being worked out for all troops leaving Iraq by 2010 isn't the same as Obama's call for troops to be out within 16 months. Because, you know, that would be wrong to set a timeline. Oh, sorry -- "time horizon." Somehow I guess this deal means we've "won." Because McCain said we'll only leave when we win, and we're gonna win "by winning." McCain eloquence at its best.

The only rebuttal he needs is the standard.... "John McCain is again lying about my proposals." And only a week ago McCain agreed with Obama's proposed 16 month troop draw down. Forfeit Iraq? It isn't ours to forfeit.

McCain's idea of the "surge" being a success is a joke. It's like loading the bases with runners and leaving them stranded as the batter (Iraqi Parliament) watches strike three cross the plate. It means nothing if the run doesn't score, NOTHING. The Iraqi's are as far apart on the critical issues like sharing oil revenues as they've ever been (see recent developments in Kirkuk).
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article4477606.ece
We've now segregated, armed and bribed both the Shia and Sunni sects. The Kurds wants no part of either one. The warring parties will just suck us dry and bide their time till they can go at it again in a more deadly fashion. Meanwhile we sacrifice troops and $15 billion a month while Iraqi oil profits pile up. And McCain says he's do it all over again! Brilliant! So, I guess that means McCain wants to FORFEIT the welfare of America so he can continue to sell this farce called success. Nixon had a similar plan; it was called "peace with honor", and we all know how well that went.

And this rot:
"Behind all the words, Sen Obama's agenda can be.. summarized as this,'' said McCain. "Government is too big, he wants to grow it. Taxes are too high, he wants to raise the Congress spends to too much, and he proposes more. We need more energy and he's against producing it.

We heard the same crap from Bush that McBush is pushing now, and guess what?

Bush increased the size of government

The republican congress under Bush registered record pork barrel spending

Taxes are too high, so Bush reduces taxes for those who need tax relief least, putting a greater burden on the middle class

I noticed McBush didn't say the deficits were too high, because Republicans are like teenagers who think they don't have to pay back their credit cards. The just couldn't stand the prospect of paying back the national debt with surpluses like that bad man Clinton was doing. Bush has increased the national debt by $3 trillion dollars to nearly $10 trillion--no mention of that by the party of fiscal irresponsibility. Honestly, Bush has so screwed up this country that it's doubtful either candidate can fix it in their term (even if that term were 8 years). But at least with Obama, we have a chance to change course. McSame, not so much.

McCain needs to quit with the weird negative jabs and yes, focus on "taxes and surrender." It's the only way he can put forward a clear and concise message.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

mccain says obama wants to forfeit iraq as if it was up for grabs. songbird mccain is a third generation card carrying member of the military industrial complex that president eisenhower warned us about. i take the word of IKE over mccain as i don't think there is any comparison between mccain and eisenhower with respect to military accomplishment or knowledge about the military. mccain will lead this country into endless war that will eventually include a considerable proportion of the 1.4 billion muslims. misters drip & drop of the 6:01 news did a edition about the troop deployment we can expect with mccain as president. www.saintpeterii.com

John McCain, "straight" talker out of both sides of his mouth. Mr. Honorable Campaign impugns his opponent's character while adopting his proposals. The Bush administration is negotiating to do just what Obama suggests. So is Bush trying to Forfeit Iraq?

Oops, it looks like McCain is going to have to have to find a new attack on Obama.

"BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraq and the United States are close to reaching a deal under which U.S. combat troops would leave by December 2010 and the rest would leave by the end of 2011, two Iraqi officials said Thursday."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/08/07/iraq.main/index.html

Scary how out of touch McCain is with what's going on in the world, isn't it?

So, when did Iraq become ours, to forfeit. Senator " Questionable Conduct " McCain thinks this is a game, to be forfeited. Ask the women and men of our Armed Forces if this is a game. Ask the families who have lost family members if it is a game. Ask the veterans who have lost limbs or are suffering from mental stress or have been permanently disabled, if this is a game. If nothing else, I wish Senator McCain would choose his words more carefully, we have men and women in harm's way in our Occupation of Iraq's Oil Fields. They deserve to be respected in how you speak of , their service to our country !! I shouldn't have to remind someone who was captured in Vietnam, but maybe he forgot, being that it was so many years ago !! Let's call in a truly international force, sponsored by the United Nations and not let it continue to be solely American operation, with some smatterings of a handful of other nationalities. We need the world's help on solving this mistake in Bahgdad, brought to us, by President Bush and the Republicans !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Sounds like desperation time for the former straight talker.

This whole domestic drilling thing is nonsense. Even if we give the oil companies the right to drill in these areas, there is no requirement on their part to do it. They have TONS of land on which they can drill and they aren't using. And THEN, even if they start drilling TODAY, even if either one of these guys serves two terms, we will not see the benifits during their presidency. Oh, and of course this all hinges on their actually being a sizeable amount of oil out there, which we aren't 100% sure there is. McCain's lies will be the end of him. GO OBAMA!

"MCINSANE MCSAME MCCAIN SPEAKS"

BLAH BLAH BLAH!
BLAH BLAH BLAH!
THREE BLIND MICE
THREE BLIND MICE!
THEY ALL WENT TO IRAQ
THEY ALL WENT TO IRAQ
THREE BLIND MICE!
THREE BLIND MICE!
ME, LINDSEY AND WENDY WENT TO IRAQ!
IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS! 4400 MEN AND WOMEN DIED BECAUSE....
SO WHAT IF THE "ANTHRAX" DIDN'T COME FROM IRAQ, DICK TOLD ME TO SAY IT.
SO WHAT IF I WAS WRONG
SO WHAT IF THE IRAQIS ARE GOING ON "FIVE WEEK VACATION" FOR THE 5TH TIME. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!
THREE BLIND MICE
THREE BLIND MICE
CONDI, DICK AND GEORGE FABRICATED WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.
OBAMA SHOULD KNOW THIS!
OBAMA SHOULD KNOW THAT THE "SURGE" DIDN'T WORK!
OBAMA SHOULD KNOW THERE IS NO "POLITICAL OR DIPLOMATIC" PROGRESS IN IRAQ!
HE WAS JUST THERE!
TIMELINES, WHAT! WHAT!
PRESIDENT BUSH ROLLED OVER AND DID WHAT!
TIMELINES! WHAT, MALIKI AND BUSH AGREE ON "OBAMA'S" TIMELINE!
WHAT.
THREE BLIND MICE
THREE BLIND MICE
I'M BETTER ON THE WAR ON TERROR!
I KNOW THE STAKES ARE HIGH!
WE'RE NOT "GRAMMSTANDING" ON CAPITOL HILL! IT'S A BIG OIL TELETHON!

"long live Nancy Pelosi"

Nice of McCain to recognize it, but there's not an American standing who didn't know Obama wants to give up Iraq. And while he hasn't said it yet, Israel had better look out too. Check that campaign contribution from Hamas territory. Oh, you didn't read about that? Wonder why? Here's the story from OneNewsNow: "According to Federal Election Commission filings, Barack Obama has received illegal donations from Palestinians living in Gaza, a hotbed of Hamas terrorists. Obama received more than $24,000 in campaign contributions over a period of two months last fall from three Palestinian brothers from the "Edwan" family in Rafah, Gaza, which is a Hamas stronghold along the border with Egypt."

The war was based on lies, deception and forgeries, and McCain personally helped sell this illegal and immoral war to the American public. McCain, like Bush, after five years, still can't define victory yet he calls Obama's sensible plan for withdrawal a forfeit. I hope that Americans are smart enough to see what a fool this old goat is.

Glad he can afford to take a vacation, most Americans can't afford the gas, let alone an airline ticket. Might as well, after all according to him this whole election is in the bag. Pretty sure of himself isn't he?

That was a great speech! I am going to enjoy his enforcement of no pork spending, especially giving names out of those who are trying to do it. I love that!

The fact that he supports more than just drilling sounds great too.

I'm so glad we didn't pull out of Iraq when Obama wanted to. Our armed services will come home winners.

Bush's shift to a timeline was seen as a move to speed agreement on a security pact governing the U.S. military presence in Iraq after the U.N. mandate expires at the end of the year.

Sounds like desperation time for the former straight talker.

Since people say we're "winning" in Iraq (and what is that....a low death rate????) then does "winning" now mean that if things go well, we will "win"???? what does "winning" look like??? What are those things that have to go well to go from "winning" to "victory"?

Can anyone please articulate that to me or anyone else???

If the "surge is working", when what is it doing? Again, if it is merely "maintaining a low death rate", then does it have to continue indefinitely to maintain a low death rate?

Can anyone tell me how we get to "Victory", and what that victory looks like??????

If not, I say it is time to let the men and women tasked with an impossible job to come home and stop spending so much of our youth, our effort, our international political capital, and our money in Iraq.

Looks like it Bush that's going to forfeit now, eh Mr. McCain?

Tomorrow, McCain will tout how "his" surge and Bush's statesmanship is now bringing our troops home by 2010. Hoorah!

I used to like McCain, back in 2000. Now he'll say anything, on any day, whether it's contradictory or not.

Very Sad.

You're whining about Obama taking a vacation when McCain takes his weekends off to fly around in his wife's private jet to one of his 8 homes?

You hypocrisy knows no bounds.

John, this is from the Hyde Park chapter of Seniors for Obama:

Will ya knock it off, for Chrissakes?

Where would you get the idea that a rational, measured withdrawal from a debacle equates to a "forfeit"?

American cannot afford to continue to spend our tax dollars and future tax dollars on this fiasco.

It is really just as simple as that.
Without even having to discuss who was right or wrong, where the pallets of newly printed $100 bills disappeared to, where is the yellowcake, etc.
Just looking at the now snapshot, disregarding the past (to humor you), there is no way, John, that America can continue to pour $1 billion a week down a sand trap.

Continuation of the "surge"--is that your vision for America's future???

If you are elected, there will be a general strike in the US the next day.

Whoooaaaa.

Call me "Ismael",

A bridge too far, there, boy.

Don't start with that libel, that Barack is "antisemitic" because he doesn't toe the Likud Party line.

Don't go there, son.

Umm, I wouldn't believe McSame on the earmark issue, either. He's not exactly innocent of same:

"In 2006, the senator teamed up with fellow Arizona senator Jon Kyl (R) to funnel $10 million toward the University of Arizona for an academic center named after the late Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist. Even Arizona lawmaker, Rep. Jeff Flake (R), said he was planning to “lean against the measure.” The National Taxpayers Union, another traditional McCain ally, questioned why the senator was making federal taxpayers foot the bill for the center.

In 2003, McCain also slipped $14.3 million into a defense appropriations bill to
create a buffer zone around Luke Air Force Base in Arizona. As Roll Call reported in 2003, this project violated McCain’s own anti-pork rhetoric." From The Center for American Progress

Now you can debate the value of earmarks, but McCain does it, too.

Republican John Weiler, Former Staff Sgt, U.S. Air Force
supports Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvO1xELHp3k

McCain wants to declare victory in Iraq in 5 years. McCain
followed Karl Rove's December 2007 advice and embraced Bush on the economy and Iraq.

http://artofmanliness.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/mccain-hug.jpg

Karl Rove's protege Steve Schmidt now runs McCain's campaign.

Say no to a third McCain/Bush/Cheney/Rove/Schmidt term.

Barack Obam '08

Will someone tell the Republicans to keep foreign agents out of American politics. We don't need Iraelis to tell us how to pick our leaders, especially those that lie and distort, like their sponsors, the Republicans. Their means are getting more despicable by the minute !! Their dismal record in dealing with the Palestinians, whose land they stole, with the help of the English, should indicate to their nation, it is they who have a problem with picking leaders. Senator Obama will be quite different then President Bush, when it comes to the Palestinian-Israeli issue. If America is good enough to give him the chance to be our President, he will give all parties a say in the negotiations. You know, those meetings that used to take place between the two nations, before President Bush entered Office. It is obvious, the Israelis are as desperate as the Republicans, neither of them want to see Senator Obama in Office, because he will ask them to put down their narrow self-interests and work for the greater cause. In the case of Israel, work for a Palestinian Nation and in the case of the Republicans, work for a stronger, more united and democratic nation and support the possibility of a President, by the name of Senator Barrack Obama. If those two developments could happen, the world would be safer and life in America would greatly improve, for every citizen.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Yes, Obama is off to Hawaii of Friday aboard "APPEASEMENT ONE" and followed by 'WITHDRAWAL TWO" the official air force of Obama and the Democ"rat"ic Party.

VJ Machiavelli
http://www.vjmachiavelli.blogspot.com

Eight years of TOTAL failure by Republicans...BIGGER government, RECORD budget deficits, RECORD National Debt, incompetently run Disaster in Iraq, and a RECESSION. Endless GOP lies, corruption, and sex scandals. Not to mention the Republican-controlled Congress spending FIFTEEN times as much on pork as the Democrats did.

And all McCain can do is threaten Americans that Obama will do the same as the Republicans did?

What a freakin' idiot. George W McCain must think we're all as stupid as he is.

ornery==Barry is a public figure. You can't libel him

McCain whines too much!

Those of old enough to remember, know we heard all these same tired statements during the Vietnam War. A war which poor old McCain seems to still be fighting. It's sad, really.

Let's see. Obama wants to forfeit because he wants to withdraw by 2010? And Iraq wants us to withdraw by 2010. So does that mean that Iraq wants to be defeated in Iraq? And that they are unpatriotic Americans?

---It means that the hypolicans are saying "We liberated you Iraqis, and we will decide what is best for your liberty. How dare you tell us what to do with your liberated country!"

Typical hypocrisy from repuglicrites. And now Sadr is promising to disarm if the troops leave. Oooohhh... tough call there shrub. Giving in would be negoiatiating with terrorists. Not giving in means more dead Americans so the shrub mis-administration could prove its determination. But at the end, it really, and truly, is about the oil.