Biden hits coal-country nerve

Glad to see the Human Gaffe Machine running at full speed!
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And speaking of "stepping in it", the Obamessiah did exactly that in choosing Biden. Not just because of Biden's mouth -- the decision was a tacit admission that his (Obama's) critics have been right all along -- he has precious little experience and no foreign policy acumen.

Three possibilities here:
1.) Biden has been told by Obama to say embarassing things so that he can bow out in October and make way for Hillary.
2.) Biden is a true patriot and after spending his first few weeks with Obama as his running mate realized his initial assessment of the man during the primaries (that he "lacks the experience to be President") was true and is doing everything he can to stop that from happening and still make it look like a mistake.
3.) Biden is an idiot.
I'm going with number three.

P.S. If Biden tries to put his hands on Sarah Palin's shoulders like that I think he'll be in for an Alaskan smackdown.

Joe Biden is the gift that keeps on giving, yet the media choose to deride Sarah Palin for being articulate and popular. Obama wants people to trust him for decision-making, yet the one major decision he's made in his life was to pick Joe Biden as his veep candidate. What a jokester that Obama is.

They love to talk about Bidens mouth and keeps Sarahs closed? Speaks volumes.

I can see how Republican drones like Jeff are shocked and appalled that two politicians from the same Party sharing a ticket have differing views on some issues. Look at the lengths the McCain campaign is taking to ensure that there is no chance of Sarah Palin disagreeing with McCain. Republicans like Jeff believe in the blind and mindless following of their leader. Jeff's brain cannot even comprehend the notion that McCain might be wrong on any issue.

I personally think it's a positive for there to be differing view points in an administration, and open debate of ideas. That clearly will never be allowed to exist in a McCain Admistration. McCain, like most Republicans, can tolerate no dissenting viewpoints. He will not tolerate a running mate who might challenge him in any way. It's just part of the authoritarian tendancies of the modern Republican Party.

Please keep posting these stories showing that the Democratic ticket embraces differences of opinion. Please keep posting these stories showing that the Democratic ticket isn't the intellectually barren, fossilized Politbureau that the Republican ticket is.

Yeah, Biden's going to be worth at least 5% of the vote for the GOP thanks to his gaffes. Thank God Obama made such a horrible decision. It shows he's not ready to lead.

You're darn right it does, Hussein. It speaks volumes about Biden and his inability to not go off the ranch. I haven't heard Palin once contradict senator McCain in any of the MANY town hall meetings she's had or her interviews with Gibson and Hannity and not in what I've seen of the Couric interview, either.Your lie that the campaign is keeping Palin's mouth closed doesn't hold water. She's done three network interviews and several town halls. She just doesn't say stupid things like Biden does so nobody covers them.
Meanwhile over in your favored campaign the handlers have to issue a new lie everyday that says Joe Biden meant the exact opposite of what he said a few hours before.
It looks like Biden still thinks he's running on the platform he articulated back in the primaries. Maybe if everything in the Obama campaign didn't need to be about Obama he'd be kept in the loop on some of this stuff.

In 2000 there were two issues that caused Gore to lose Ohio and all other coal producing states, guns and coal. Obama has now sealed the deal with these states just like Gore did, it's over no matter what national polls say, they tend to over sample dems 2:1. Bye bye Obama!

Biden should use Obama's favorite excuse for his misspeaks. And I quote "What I meant to say was." End Quote! You never know it didn't work for Obama, but it just might work for Biden.

So he would like to do away with coal-burning energy -- is there a major problem with that? Wouldn't it be great it coal miners were able to get better jobs making solar panels and not gettting black lung while working in coal mines. I don't see what the issue is here -- it's not like the minute he becomes vp that all coal-burning plants cease operation, but that an Obama Administration would support research and development of alternative energy ... and the problem with this is?? As Woodsy the Owl used to say, "Give a hoot, don't pollute" Go Obama -- the next POTUS!

Joe Biden last week: "When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed," Biden told Couric. "He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"

1. There were no tv's in homes in 1929
2. Hoover was President

Oh yes, Liz, Biden's stupid statements show what an independent thinker he is! What "differing view points in an administration, and open debate of ideas." I just CANNOT wait until Obama has to hear that cabinet meeting where Biden tells Obama that it's just his opinion and idea that the television was in wide distribution in 1929 and that no matter what that dusty ol' history book says he's sticking to his guns that Roosevelt was president in 1929! Embrace those "differences of opinion" all day. Or at least until the Obama campaign makes you release a statement that says you didn't mean what you said after all, Stalin-style. The true home of groupthink and conformity, the democratic party.

Just goes to show how deep Biden's blue-collar, Scranton PA roots go -- not very. Just another out of touch Dem lifetime politician.

The more we see you, the more we love you!

NO COAL MINING IN AMERICA....great going Biden. Keep talkin, WE LOVE YOU ON THE RIGHT HA!

Jeff, you're just too funny.

Be honest, there isn't a single issue that you think McCain isn't 100% correct on, is there?

Nice try at changing the subject from the subject of the post , Biden's horrible "gaffe" of not completely surrendering his own independant judgement and disagreeing with Obama.

Really Jeff, try and learn not to be so compltetely blinded by your hero worship of McCain. Thinking people don't always agree on every issue. Enforced conformity like you trumpet as a virtue of McCain/Palin, is actually a vice.

Oh, and by the way, Palin has contradicted McCain on drilling in ANWR. Was that a "gaffe"?

I would like to hear Palins idea on this...Where's Waldo?

Liz, you're a joke, Biden surrenders COMPLETELY on every issue he disagrees with Obama about a few hours later via campaign press release (probably being read to him the same time it's going out to the press).
I don't agree with McCain/Palin 100% on everything, either, but I don't try to cover up for any mistakes McCain has made by saying "he's being independent" when he just screwed up.
Face it, the Obama campaign is SO much about Obama that Biden's not even in the loop on what the latest positions are. That's why this keeps happening.
Trying to pretend that Biden keeps messing up because "thinking people don't always agree on every issue" is high comedy. Biden's had a reputation for sticking his foot in his mouth for 30 years on capital hill and it's only being magnified now because there are so many more microphones in front of him.
If they're such free thinkers why does Obama always correct him through his campaign? And why does Joe have to sign of on the correction and pretend he agrees?
Are you such a sheep that you HONESTLY believe Biden never saw the ad about McCain's computer use that was a national news story and ran in every swing state? Are you really that gullible?

Also, how did I change the subject? Read Frank's descriptions the subject is Biden's gaffes and they multiply like rabbits.
Liz, you do realize that Biden went back 100% on the statement he made to that young woman a few hours later, don't you? That the Obama campaign (it's not even worth calling it Obama-Biden anymore) put out a statement wherein he said he supported clean coal here, don't you? Please tell me you've at least read that much before responding. There's supposedly no disagreement now between Biden and Obama. The statement says he "misspoke." Riiiight.

Jeff,
Which gaffe is more serious?
a)TVs were prevalent in 1929?
b) Sunni....Shiite, it's all the same to McCain
c) Iraq borders Afghanistan
For you to ignore the thrust of Biden's FDR comment shows your fierce partisan hackery.

"Face it, the Obama campaign is SO much about Obama that Biden's not even in the loop on what the latest positions are."
Posted by: Jeff | September 24, 2008 4:20 PM
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Personally, I wish we were hearing much more of Joe's "independent thoughts". As comic entertainment they're invaluable!

Biden clearly didn't advance the team with recent comments he made at a Maumee, Ohio campaign stop. He indicated he didn't support using coal to provide some of the nation's future energy needs, not even clean-coal technology. ~ F.J.
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For the very simple reason that Joe Biden, a democrat, recognizes that there could, could I say, possibly be, possibly be I say, threats made by other countries and certain rogue lunatics against our country, I basicly like the guy.

HOWEVER, once again, we have your basic No-Energy- development democrat. How can you go into the Keystone state and tell them that you are against the development of coal resources, clean or otherwise? Do democrats understand that good, bad, or indifferent, that this is the only economic means of support that some people have available to them. What about all of those regular folks that the democrats paraded out in Denver to condemn Bush and Cheney for stealing their jobs? Have they thrown them off the bus already?

Energy, National Security, and Taxes - democrats are the Extremists.

BOMBSHELL!
Hidden Audio: Obama Tells SF Chronicle He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry
By P.J. Gladnick (Bio | Archive)
November 2, 2008 - 07:26 ET

Please read update about the San Francisco Chronicle neglecting to mention Obama's willingness to bankrupt the coal industry at bottom of this blog.)
Imagine if John McCain had whispered somewhere that he was willing to bankrupt a major industry? Would this declaration not immediately be front page news? Well, Barack Obama actually flat out told the San Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) that he was willing to see the coal industry go bankrupt in a January 17, 2008 interview. The result? Nothing. This audio interview has been hidden from the public...until now. Here is the transcript of Obama's statement about bankrupting the coal industry (emphasis mine):

Let me sort of describe my overall policy.

What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's out there.

I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

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That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.

It's just that it will bankrupt them.
Amazing that this statement by Obama about bankrupting the coal industry has been kept under wraps until this time.

UPDATE: NewsBusters' Tom Blumer has found out that the San Francisco Chronicle story published on January 18 based upon this January 17 interview did not include any mention of Obama's willingness to bankrupt the coal industry which you can hear on the audio. You can read the story here when you scroll down to the "In His Own Words" section. Way to cover up for The One, SF Chronicle!