Sarah Palin: Russian offense augurs war: The Swamp
The Swamp
Chicago Tribune
Posted September 11, 2008 5:30 PM
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Sarah Palin is interviewed by ABC's Charlie Gibson. AP photo

The Swamp

by Mark Silva and updated at 6 and 7 pm

ABC News offers this headline for its exclusive interview with Sarah Palin, the Republican Party's nominee for vice president:

"GOV. SARAH PALIN WARNS WAR MAY BE NECESSARY IF RUSSIA INVADES ANOTHER COUNTRY.''

And the interview tonight supports the headline: "Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help,'' Palin says in the interview with ABC's Charlie Gibson (in which she acknowledges that Georgia is not yet a NATO member, but says that, like Ukraine, it should be.)

ABC News billed the interview, Palin's first with the national media since the Republican Party nominated her for vice president last week, as a far-reaching talk about many corners of the world. This is new territory for the governor of Alaska.

Asked about her foreign travels, Palin allows in the ABC interview that, before traveling to Kuwait to see Alaskan National Guard forces, she had been to just Canada and Mexico and never has met with a world leader -- but maintained that Americans are looking for new direction, not old portfolios in Washington.

John McCain, the party's presidential nominee, already has proposed that Russia be booted from the Group of Eight industrial nations. And now, at a time when relations between the United States and Russia have been strained by the Bush administration's designs on a missile defense shield in Poland and by Russia's incursion into neighboring Georgia, it seems that McCain's running mate has another message for Russia.

Palin also says in the interview that her church-stage remark that the war in Iraq is "a task that is from God'' is an allusion to the words of Abraham Lincoln. Asked if her son Track, deploying to Iraq, is serving a task from God, she admits: "I don't know.''

In the first of three airings of her interview with ABC's Gibson, Palin characterizes the Russian invasion of Georgia as "unacceptable" and warns of the threats from Islamic terrorists and a nuclear Iran.

"We've got to keep an eye on Russia,'' says Palin, whom supporters have credited with knowledge of foreign affairs for residing in a state that sits next door to Russia -- "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia here from Alaska,'' she says in the interview. "For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country (Georgia), unprovoked, is unacceptable.'' Was it unprovoked, she is asked, and yes, she replies, it was.

Palin also is asked if she would support Israel's right to strike Iran militarily if the Iranians posed a nuclear threat to the Israelis. "I don't think we can second-guess what Israel needs to do to defend its nation,'' she says, and repeats, when asked to clarify it a second time: "We cannot second-guess the steps that Israel needs to protect itself.''

On the question of the right of the United States to go after terrorists inside of Pakistan without the approval of the Pakistani government: "As for our right to invade, we are going to work with these countries, to build new relationshisp... in order to get to a point in this world where war is not a first option... We must do whatever it takes and we must not blink.... In where we go, and even who we target..''

Asked if that is a "yes,'' Palin replies:"I believe America has to exercise all options.''

When Gibson asks Palin if she supports "the Bush doctrine,'' she carefully asks the anchorman what he means by that. When Gibson says he understands it to mean that Bush has asserted to a right to preemptive U.S. military strikes, Palin replies:"If there is legitimate and enough intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent against American people, we have every right to defend our country.''

Palin also maintains that diplomacy and economic pressure are the first options in any potential confrontation. "We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We've learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union. ''

The Palin interview, excerpted here, airs this evening on ABC's World News at 7 pm EDT, and will be followed with more on Nightline this evening and Good Morning America in the morning. Gibson will interview Palin again in her home town of Wasilla for a series that will draw widespread attention through Friday and into the weekend.

ABC also offers these excerpts from the Palin interview:

Sarah Palin on Experience:

GIBSON: Governor, let me start by asking you a question that I asked John McCain about you, and it is really the central question. Can you look the country in the eye and say "I have the experience and I have the ability to be not just vice president, but perhaps president of the United States of America?"
PALIN: I do, Charlie, and on January 20, when John McCain and I are sworn in, if we are so privileged to be elected to serve this country, will be ready. I'm ready.
GIBSON: And you didn't say to yourself, "Am I experienced enough? Am I ready? Do I know enough about international affairs? Do I -- will I feel comfortable enough on the national stage to do this?"
PALIN: I didn't hesitate, no.
GIBSON: (INAUDIBLE -- Didn't that take some hubris?)
PALIN: I -- I answered him yes because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can't blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we're on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can't blink.
So I didn't blink then even when asked to run as his running mate.

Sarah Palin on God:
GIBSON: You said recently, in your old church, "Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God." Are we fighting a holy war?
PALIN: You know, I don't know if that was my exact quote.
GIBSON: Exact words.
PALIN: But the reference there is a repeat of Abraham Lincoln's words when he said -- first, he suggested never presume to know what God's will is, and I would never presume to know God's will or to speak God's words.
But what Abraham Lincoln had said, and that's a repeat in my comments, was let us not pray that God is on our side in a war or any other time, but let us pray that we are on God's side.
That's what that comment was all about, Charlie.
GIBSON: I take your point about Lincoln's words, but you went on and said, "There is a plan and it is God's plan."
PALIN: I believe that there is a plan for this world and that plan for this world is for good. I believe that there is great hope and great potential for every country to be able to live and be protected with inalienable rights that I believe are God-given, Charlie, and I believe that those are the rights to life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
That, in my world view, is a grand -- the grand plan.
GIBSON: But then are you sending your son on a task that is from God?
PALIN: I don't know if the task is from God, Charlie. What I know is that my son has made a decision. I am so proud of his independent and strong decision he has made, what he decided to do and serving for the right reasons and serving something greater than himself and not choosing a real easy path where he could be more comfortable and certainly safer.

Sarah Palin on Russia:

We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We've learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.
We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it's in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
GIBSON: Would you favor putting Georgia and Ukraine in NATO?
PALIN: Ukraine, definitely, yes. Yes, and Georgia.
GIBSON: Because Putin has said he would not tolerate NATO incursion into the Caucasus.
PALIN: Well, you know, the Rose Revolution, the Orange Revolution, those actions have showed us that those democratic nations, I believe, deserve to be in NATO.
Putin thinks otherwise. Obviously, he thinks otherwise, but...
GIBSON: And under the NATO treaty, wouldn't we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?
PALIN: Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help.
But NATO, I think, should include Ukraine, definitely, at this point and I think that we need to -- especially with new leadership coming in on January 20, being sworn on, on either ticket, we have got to make sure that we strengthen our allies, our ties with each one of those NATO members.
We have got to make sure that that is the group that can be counted upon to defend one another in a very dangerous world today.
GIBSON: And you think it would be worth it to the United States, Georgia is worth it to the United States to go to war if Russia were to invade.
PALIN: What I think is that smaller democratic countries that are invaded by a larger power is something for us to be vigilant against. We have got to be cognizant of what the consequences are if a larger power is able to take over smaller democratic countries.

And we have got to be vigilant. We have got to show the support, in this case, for Georgia. The support that we can show is economic sanctions perhaps against Russia, if this is what it leads to.
It doesn't have to lead to war and it doesn't have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again, counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to control much more than smaller democratic countries.
His mission, if it is to control energy supplies, also, coming from and through Russia, that's a dangerous position for our world to be in, if we were to allow that to happen.

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Wow!! Looks like we have a war monger that hasn't even been elected yet..To VP. { She seems to think she is running for President.}...Listening to her it sounds like we will be at war for 20 years instead of the 10 years McCain wanted....SCARY!!!!..Knowing tonights interview with her will be pure memorized fluff rhetoric I guess the Repubs will faint in their chairs.........


oh ... my ... god ...

well, maybe i sold her short. at least she waits for someone to invade, unlike bush.

still, russia is not a country we want to mess with. they are flush with oil money, and ...

need i go on? not ready for prime time.

she really wasn't ready for governor and proved as much in her governing: abuse of power, leaving alaskan nat'l guard short of men/women, etc.


Patriotism is apparently the last refuge of female tyrants as well. She's from Alaska where they hunt down any Russian moose that dares swim to America.


Thank gawd Sarah and the Wolverines are there for us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adsx_ZxFVtc


Why wait? Let's bomb the heck out of them right now.


Can you say "End of Times" anyone? We've got (2) Warmongers and the crazed righties are just itchin' to put them in the White House so they can get the ball rolling and Rapture on up when Armagendon hits. Pro Life my fanny!!


I Guess the difference between that hockey mom and a pitbull isn't brain capacity.


Oh my gosh!! With what troops? We've completely exhausted our ability to fight our way out of even a wet paper bag. Who does she think she is!!!!!


Another reason not to vote for McCain. He will continue Bush's foreign policy.


IS THIS WOMAN NUTS!!!! The GOP must be really hurting to pick her for VP.


she simply puts the option on the table. but if you dont mind your allies getting crushed then i guess your right she is a warmonger, but if you stand up for the weak when they need help, im sorry thats called being a friend and ally.


Is it true, the US bought Alaska for 1$ way back when? I remember hearing this story once on the radio.
What's the truth?


Palin is flat-out scary. She's so arrogant that she doesn't know what she doesn't know. Imagine how she would have handled the Cuban missile crisis. "Well, tarnation, let's just blast them russkies right now. Nuke 'em."


Of course someone would say she's a war monger. Don't you realize ABC News is doing this on purpose, just to get you to think she's a war monger? They already removed the headline suggesting she wants war.

Besides, when a NATO ally is attacked we're kind of obligated to help them out, ya know.

What do we do, just say "it sucks to be you?"


This woman would be so dangerous. She seems eager to throw our blood and money around for unprovoked war with the us.


Instead of attacking Sarah Palin (surprise, surprise), consider what she said.

If Russia invades either Poland or the Ukraine, we will have no other choice BUT to take action militarily. For those who disagree, you are living in a fantasyland.


So is Obama a war monger for saying that military force is not off the table re: Iran?


TRANSLATION: If we can't keep spending TRILLIONS in the Middle East, then we need to keep the defense industry alive and a new war would be good for Bechtel, Boeing, Carlyle, Haliburton & WorldCom.


C'mon swamp....here comes the spin. This is what she said:

"When Gibson said if under the NATO treaty, the United States would have to go to war if Russia again invaded Georgia, Palin responded: "Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help."

We are part of Nato, so if they asked for our help we would. Just like any other president would do.

Gotta love the media spin and bias...sheesh.


The set up for this story is extraordinary. The writer posits a substantive equivalence between the placement of non threatening defensive missiles in Poland and a violent cross border invasion. Russia KNOWS the defense shield missiles pose no threat and Putin's blustering and bullying about them are simply an attempt to establish a new USSR based on kleptocracy rather than totalitarianism. If Russia invades a NATO country, of course there will be war. Russia knows that, but the reminder doesn't hurt. Saying anything less would show weakness and perhaps invite the Russians to do something foolish , with unintended consequences. What was she supposed to have said: that she would do nothing? If nothing is what we want to do in the face of an invasion, we should dissolve NATO. If Obama thinks dissolution of NATO is preferable to the risk of war, he could make that argument. I myself am ambivalent: perhaps there's been enough of Americans dying for unworthy Europeans over the last 100 years. The EU is as rich as we are. Maybe it's time to let the godless EUROS fend for themselves.


It seem like Mcane got him self a fighter and another hothead. She is constantly making jokes about the Obama and lying about her own record.
It is a sad moment to see Mcane fell into this dirty polities which he was a victim and promised not to do in the beginning.
I guess the same thing he stand before he realized the Republicans don't cherish (Honesty and straight talk). He given up on both of them.
If he cannot strand at home how will he stand to the world.


Does she even know that Georgia isn't part of NATO?


There is a reason pacifists never get elected to high offices. Its because they would rather let their allies and own country die than fight for anything important. The whiney left can complain all they want. There is a reason, as much as I dislike Bush, that he was chosen over Kerry and it wasnt for his brains.


War with Russia might be necessary? Egad. Either Palin is completely nuts or she harbors a mightly big death wish for this country. WWIII anyone? I guess she thinks the Alaskan National Guard can take on the Russians if we go to war.


This is why she's been under wraps..... but she's also saying what she has been coached to say, I assume.
In all fairness, we should wait for the full interview....though I doubt I'll watch.


Cold War II ??

There are more diplomatic ways to say we should hono our commitments to NATO allies!

I'm not impressed with her (or pitbulls in general). Maybe the pitbull analogy (her words) is good. Pitbulls are famous for uprovoked attacks for no reason.


Jeff and Plymouth,
Again, with what troops will we be supporting our Nato brethren? I've got another question...Can you say "Draft". I hope so because that will kill the GOP once and for all. At least I HOPE it will. Oh, and I didn't hear anything about Georgia getting into NATO yet so maybe someone should mention that to Miss Foreign Affairs.


No choice? We always have a choice! You live in the same fantasy land as them and Bush. What troops are we going to send? And she also talks about our allies - who?? Bush has managed to totally alienate the rest of the world! Bush is the reason that Russia even thinks they can do this. They are well aware that because of Bush's lies and fantasies we have no one to help us and no troops to stop them. So we have a pit bull with lipstick and a chip on her shoulder and a POW on the verge of death with nothing to lose anymore that want to be trusted with the nuclear codes?? What drugs are they on??


Jeff, will you be volunteering to fight for Poland or the Ukraine, or will you just be telling the US soldiers that are sent "It sucks to be you", like you did to those sent to Iraq? Are you willing to pay the price? Do you believe in our obligation that much?


Surrendercrats I know you are wackos but the operative word is" may" be necessary. Get over it children! Sarah is the only adult running for Vice President Soros is calling B Hussein Obamas shots to ruin our country.
Please lighten up liberals you are looking for code words to ruin this candidate and morally you offend. You liberals including the Great One---will say or do anything to get this clod/thug elected and you know it.He is a Chicago thug as Bill Clinton said.
The driveby media is in the tank for OBAMA and you know it . Stop the BS! Jerry White, Springfield,IL


It sorta reminds you of the Bush decision to invade Iraq, doesn't it ? But then Russia is a country with a large standing army. They have modern armament and and army that hasn't been depleted by 7 years of being deployed...

All things considered< i guess the Republican party is the "Party of War". How may of you want your kids killed ot injured in Russia ? The vote in September will be a test of that...


I may be wrong but I believe that Georgia is not yet a member of NATO. So to go to war with Russia if they invade say Poland or someone who actually is a member of NATO may be understandable. But lets face it the only reason we want to help Georgia is for the pipeline running through it. We don't want Russia to have control of it. If we really wanted to protect its people we would have done more already.


Wow, take about sensationalism!! This is practically yellow-dog journalism -- does anyone at the Tribune know what that means??

"WAR -- IF RUSSIA INVADES AGAIN!!!!?!!!! "

Please, buried stealthy in this article is the fact that Gibson asked if war was required under the NATO alliance if a member is attacked. I'm now international political science prof., but I'm betting a few would answer yes to that same question!! It's a legal answer to a legal question. Would you be bound by law to a treaty??

Did you half of you posters even read the article? Or did you guys just see the headline and rush to post???


I may be wrong but I believe that Georgia is not yet a member of NATO. So to go to war with Russia if they invade say Poland or someone who actually is a member of NATO may be understandable. But lets face it the only reason we want to help Georgia is for the pipeline running through it. We don't want Russia to have control of it. If we really wanted to protect its people we would have done more already.


Sarah Palin is a sociopath.


Georgia is not a NATO member. NATO's mutual defense principle obviously does not apply to non-member countries.


I guess Former Rhode Island Sen. Lincoln Chafee's blunt remarks, calling her a "Cocky Wacko" rings true. Cocky, certainly, thinking that US is even in a position to wage war (given our baggage in Iraq) and Wacko, absolutely, if her first option to any Russian action is a military response. God save this country from fools like her.


War with Russia? With what? Retirees? Teens? Hockey moms? Pit bulls?Yeah, that's what the country needs- let's borrow more money to fight another war, as if the cost of the $341 million/day we're borrowing to fight in Iraq isn't putting enough of a debt on the future generations of this nation.


Do these "war monger" comments mean that Obama and his supporters would not honor their commitment to NATO? Maybe someone needs to ask Obama where he stands on US membership in NATO.


Russia was unprovoked? What a crock!
I guess when Reagan attacked Grenada to protect American citizens, that was unprovoked too?
How about Sebia? What did Serbia do to the USA to deserve to be bombed for 78 days?
American "leaders" sure are total hypocrites about Russia "attacking" Georgia. What about Iraq?
Somalia? Vietnam? Why did the USA get involved there?


Gotta love the right-wingers acting like her comment was not extremely undiplomatic and incautious...one does not randomly throw out hypotheticals like this. Why not say, "I'd nuke Pakistan if it nuked India!" Well, because duh, saber-rattling is not going to help anything. Also, guess what, McCain and McCain-iacs? We are NOT all Georgians. We are all AMERICANS. I couldn't care less about Georgia. The U.S. Georgia is a mess on its own; let's take care of that one first.


...and the process of Sarah Palin sinking herself and the GOP campaign by being herself should start right...about...now!


YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS. she says it is stated in the NATO Treaty that we might have to go to war. not that she wanted to. it means all NATO nations would go to war. LOL. i'm glad the people of America who vote can't read. that explains Obama's support.


Mrs. Palin can try to change her words all she wishes. So now we're to believe she was quoting Lincoln? Do you suppose her congregation took it that way? What back-peddling!


Russia was unprovoked? What a crock!
I guess when Reagan attacked Grenada to protect American citizens, that was unprovoked too?
How about Serbia? What did Serbia do to the USA to deserve to be bombed for 78 days?
American "leaders" sure are total hypocrites about Russia "attacking" Georgia. What about Iraq?
Somalia? Vietnam? Why did the USA get involved there?


It was my understanding that it was Georgia which shelled South Ossetia after signing a cease-fire, so Russia's claim to be defending its citizens could be considered to be less than complete hogwash. But then I'm wasn't governor of Alaska, so maybe Sarah knows better - and Charlie didn't challenge...


I'll say this again..........Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency makes my heart skip a beat. I'm all for getting those who whacked us on 9/11, but how about some other strategy for other crap. Why do U.S. citizens have to pay with lives and dollars for other countries while we go to hell in a handbasket ourselves?

Please, don't give our country away to this woman. Surely there were other more qualified women in the Republican party. How come McCain didn't get one of them?


Is it really that surprising if Bush Aides and Bush Campaign people have been coaching her? The only question here is whether McSame has any idea what she's saying, or better yet, if he even cares!! He's walking around in a daze, and has become issue # 2 on his own ticket. How does a campaign that is using Bush campaigners garner attention and devotion? The flock always follows the Guns and Butter candidate. America gets what it deserves when it puts morons in office. More economic hard times, higher gas prices, higher healthcare costs, jobs going overseas.


Oh my Gosh! Another War Monger.

She scares me. There was no need for her to be talking that carelessly. What is she thinking???

No more wars please.


My God, will people read what she actually said rather than just the sensationalized headline?

I swear, from some of these comments, people are sorely lacking in reading comprehension skills.

And yes John, Palin knows that Georgia isn't part of NATO, that was the whole point of the line of questioning.


All these comments about "allies being invaded..."

What about when we bait them into invading a portion of their nation that was procured by Georgian invasion, and whose residents by large want to be part of Russia, and Russia goes in to protect people who are ethnically Russian, and who want to be part of Russia?

This is EXACTLY another display of America playing two sides against each other so our politicians can reap the benefit, just like Iran and Iraq during the 1980s.

The Georgians moved into Ossetia the same way Iraq moved into the Kurdish region of Iraq after the 1991 war (you know, the whole "killing his own citizens" argument that was used to justify this invasion?) because Ossetians were pledging their allegiance to Russia (or at least we led Georgia to believe that was the case). So, Russia, acting as benevolent as we were in Iraq when we invaded in 2002, invaded Georgia to "stop them from killing their own people."

Anyone who thinks that this act was an aggressive act solely committed by Russia is either ignorant of the facts or chooses to ignore those facts because they do not fit their political agenda.

Of course, besides "tax cuts," the only thing that your average Republican understands is "war."

Pray tell, how are we going to wage a (fabricated) war against a nation like Russia, get tax cuts, and avoid a military draft? Any PLANS on how to deal with that, or are we just going to ensure this nation's ruin by depleting our young while driving the rest of us into perpetual poverty?


Just want to clear some confusion I'm noticing in this post,
1. Georgia is not part of NATO, obviuosly if Russia were to invade Poland and/or the Ukraine it'd be a different situation.

2. Russia was not unprovoked in invading Georgia.

3. McCain's camp is being 'guided' by Georgian lobbyists.....

Now for anyone who wishes to yell at me for stating facts, to each their own, but please do your due diligence before hand.


It took a dozen messages before John picked up the point that the Republic of Georgia is NOT a member of NATO!

This worries me, if this woman ever goes on to repeat myths that some voters on the far right might believe to be true, but sound right to them (e.g., that there were WMD in Iraq, that some of the 9/11 terrorists sneaked in from Canada or Mexico, not knowing that France's military is part of Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan, etc.).

If you vote McCain, at least mark Biden for VP ... I know that I will ...


It was my understanding that Georgia shelled South Ossetia after signing a cease-fire, so Russia's claim to be defending its citizens could be considered to be less than complete hogwash. Too bad Charlie didn't challenge her on that point...


She said that Ukraine and Georgia SHOULD be admitted to NATO.

Yeah - Obama had it right when he said we should talk to the UN when Russia attacked Georgia.

For those not paying attention, Russia is on the security council, and has veto power.

Meaning, just like the DNC speeches, Obama is nothing but a bunch of hot air.


Who should McCain and Palin invade first? Russia first, Iran second, and China third? Why not all three at once. If there are not enough US soldiers to deploy, we can hire some private companies to do the fighting. It will be splendidly patriotic, and the oil will be so much cheaper too!


"War with Russia"; Is this a joke, or is the joke her foreign affairs experience?
Or, maybe she really, really believes that Star Wars missle defense system will work 100% of the time against the thousands of icbm's Russia can toss at us.


So I guess using Palin's logic, Russia should have gone to war with us after we invaded Iraq. Oh wait, we should only reserve the right to do that if "small democratic countries" are invaded. Otherwise they are fair game. What a lunatic!


There is a reason pacifists never get elected to high offices. Its because they would rather let their allies and own country die than fight for anything important.
Posted by: Michael L | September 11, 2008 6:06 PM

If everyone elected pacifists, then we wouldn't have wars. But, what would be the fun in that?


C'mon swamp....here comes the spin. This is what she said:
"When Gibson said if under the NATO treaty, the United States would have to go to war if Russia again invaded Georgia, Palin responded: "Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help."
We are part of Nato, so if they asked for our help we would. Just like any other president would do.
Gotta love the media spin and bias...sheesh.
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what?!

georgia is NOT in nato! we have NO troops to send ANYwhere!

this woman is dangerous.

and dangerously stupid.


Palin needs to get the kind of experience Obama has. Go to Iraq and Afghanistan for some photo opportunities with the soldier.

Lets also keep in mind that foreign policy decisions are made along with the advisers from the NSA which has tons of real experience.

Quite frankly the Democratic ticket is messed up. Biden and Obama should swap.


Russia is a member of NATO. If they attacked Georgia would the be obligated to go to war with themselves?


If the Ukraine were inducted into NATO, they would be signing a treaty that says "If any member is invaded by another country, all of the other members will go to war to defend it." Any president or candidate who says that they wouldn't uphold their treaty obligations has no honor. I doubt Obama would answer that question any differently than Palin.

Now if you want to debate whether Ukraine SHOULD be inducted into NATO, that's a different question.


I'm with FrankK on this--our troops are already over-extended in Iraq + Afghanistan, so how could we POSSIBLY send them to defend Russia? Having the Curmudgeon and his Sidekick in the White House is unthinkable. Go Obama!


Perhaps Governor Palin is thinking of the need to protect Atlanta from the Russians.


No choice? We always have a choice! You live in the same fantasy land as them and Bush. What troops are we going to send? And she also talks about our allies - who?? Bush has managed to totally alienate the rest of the world! Bush is the reason that Russia even thinks they can do this. They are well aware that because of Bush's lies and fantasies we have no one to help us and no troops to stop them. So we have a pit bull with lipstick and a chip on her shoulder and a POW on the verge of death with nothing to lose anymore that want to be trusted with the nuclear codes?? What drugs are they on??


Has anyone else noticed the disjointed quality of her sentence construction? It sounds unpolished and it becomes all the more evident when read.


Does anyone see any similarity at all between the words she actually said when talking to the religious group, and the quote from Lincoln she now claims to have been refering to:

"Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether."

I don't. Not at all. Lincoln rightly view war as a terrible scourge. A punishment on BOTH side that participate in it. That's not at all her message.

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

She sees us as God's holy warriors, pure and rightous, sent to punish the wicked. That is a far cry from Lincoln's mournful, painful and conflicted quote, admitting that the sins of the nation as a whole in permitting slavery made even the horrors of the Civil War just punishment enough from the almighty.

Let's also remeber the words that immediately followed from Lincoln. Some of the most eleoquent and powerful ever uttered in this Nation:

"With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations."

That's certainly not Sarah Palin's vision for America's future. She just wants to move on to the next enemy.


Charlie Gibson's when "did you stop beating your wife?" type question evidently gave you liberals some false hope. She answered the question perfectly. She is the real deal, get used to it.


Spin, spin, spin. No matter what Palin say she'll be made to look bad. It would be refreshing and a unique moment if the media was to set aside the obvious bias and report news.


Palin has had her 15 minutes.
If McCain has any sense he will dump her and pick up Romney.

She would attack RUSSIA?!!!
Over Georgia? And over South Ossetia?

What nonsense.


Can you people read???
He asked her to answer what WOULD happen if Georgia WERE a part of NATO!! It was a hypothetical question???

She absolutely gave the right answer if a NATO country us attacked we have treaty obligations to come to their aid, nice try libs!!

I rather be in the position of training a number two on the ticket than that number one on the job training!!


I'm surprised. Charlie went after her a bit... and tripped her up BIG TIME. She had nothing but the sound bites she's been memorizing all week. No surprise... she knows nothing about foreign policy.


Really, she has been the governor of a state that has approx 500,000 people, in office a little over 600 days and she is equiped to lead the most powerful nation on earth, a nation of 250 M. People get real and be careful what you ask for.


If Russia acts in certain ways, as much as I hate to say it, the U.S. would have to act.

Violating a nation's soveriegnty in order to support a minority group is eerily similar to Hitler's initial expansion moves to help German speaking groups.

Of course, who is going to stop the U.S. when it invades country #3?


I like her grit. I like her honesty. I like her answers. All you left wing pansies keep mouthing off, and we'll continue for your right to do it! WIMPS!!!


Wow it sounds like a lot of you democrats forgot what happened when the Nazi's took over those "little" countries and nobody wanted to take a stand. Palin said it right- if Russia attacks a NATO country we are committed to defending them - that isn't Palin's idea that has been what this country has committed to for as long as NATO has been in existence.


What's wrong with you people, Charlie asked if Georgia was part of Nato, and it was invaded, would military action be used, SHE SAID YES. What else is the purpose of being apart of Nato if you don't come to the aid of it's members. It's part of the NATO charter. WHAT"S WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU. Know about what you are talking about before you speak.


Yikes, do we need another fake leader who has a blinding "resolve" to push forward in whatever direction the neocons point her. This lady is downright scary. I don't believe a word out of her mouth: "I don't pretend to know God's will, but here is God's will and it's the Iraq war and then the Russian war, and any other war that my godly Republican friends dictate to me."


she is woefully unprepared for this interview, forget v.p.
Didn't know what the Bush doctrine was, she was totally clueless until Gibson told her. Oh, and she said Russia attacked Georgia unprovoked. Sarah, Geogia started it, trying to invade a pro russia area that Georgia wanted.


I'm sorry, but she sounds like an idiot - a coached idiot. If I was Gibson I would've asked her to actually explain what the Orange Revolution was. Furthermore, we have no business starting wars over Ukraine and Georgia on behalf of NATO because THEY ARE NOT MEMBERS OF NATO. We would in fact be violating, not supporting, international treaties if we did that. Seriously, how many countries are we going to invade and destroy? Iraq and Afghanistan are failed states because of us, the Middle East is destabilized because of us, we are unable to fight militants in Pakistan now because of the way we charged in unauthorized. Do we really need more of this? Give me a freaking break.

And finally - I would also like to point out that the last time Alaska and Russia were connected was during the Ice Age! THEY ARE NOT CONNECTED. In order for a Russia to interact with Palin, they would have to hike across Siberia, and then swim across the Bering Sea. Seriously.


Wow their goes Amercia fighting with Russia is not wise if Palin and the old man is elected i am moving my family to CANADA SEE U


Taking the Ukraine into NATO would be tantamount to war. She is not ready for world affairs.

What is she going to do about Russia naval exercises in the southern Caribbean with Venezuela?
That's real. That's happening right this second.


She said, "...this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin .... His mission, if it is to control energy supplies, also, coming from and through Russia, that's a dangerous position for our world to be in, if we were to allow that to happen...."
Well, if it is so friggin' dangerous, then don't you think it is NOW worth the time and expense to get us off those dangerous forms of energy that put us at such risk? and leave us so vulnerable? Like maybe NOW is the time for a Manhattan Project of solar and wind and a decentralized distributed grid system -- you know energy resources with FREE fuel that can't be interrupted by foreign powers. It is more than technically and economically feasible; and it's cheaper than conventional war, and preferable to nuclear war.
To go to war with Russia or anyone over energy resources is so -- 20th Century. The way to "win" the energy war is to make them (foreign powers) irrelevant. Sustainable energy does this. It is in the national security interests to make this a reality ASAP. It IS Homeland Security
See: www.ieer.org


You can't dog Charlie Gibson for asking basic questions to determine if she has any knowledge about policy. She's given no indication to this point that she's even qualified to answer questions on foreign policy, much less have any opinions of her own not dictated by the GOP. What bothers me is how quickly she jumps to "well sure, why not war?!?" without any mention of diplomacy and as a last resort. That's why I perceive her as a war monger, her readiness to lay it out there. That there's no caution. I personally believe lots of blinking and thinking, debating and soul searching is required when dealing with such weighty matters as whether to run for VP (and its implications on her family, state and party), heading into war and choosing the direction of this country. Personally I don't want a gun slinger so close to the oval office.


Yes, Palin is discussing what would be an obligation under NATO.

The more important question to ask is whether it is in the best interests of the U.S. to support the entry of Georgia into NATO.

In my opinion, the larger McCain/neocon program of aggressively advocating for Georgia to be admitted to NATO -- as Palin does here, with a very cavalier attitude toward the consequences -- is severely problematic.

So, readers, do YOU support the entry of Georgia into NATO? Even if it risks war with Russia?


YES! War in the name of God! Let's kill them all! Kill! Kill! KILL! ...I hope the gasoline prices don't go up for this. My V8 is taking a beating at the pump. ...forget Russia, we must kill for more gasoline! ...thats the "Formula".


Clearly the right wing extremists, such as Texans Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-McCain-Palin are out to get us all killed. It is far better for President Obama to go to the UN Security Council and push for tough words in a resolution. As we know, tough-worded UN Security Council resolutions have solved tens of problems throughout the last few decades and clearly there is no better alternative. Whole nations disarm after getting the security council treatment. They stop enriching uranium. They stop leaders from chemically gassing their citizens. They stop genocide. They force countries to turn over war criminals to the UN War Crimes Tribunal. The UN Security Council and its sharp-toothed resolutions is all we need to make earth safe. Enough war mongering from the right ring extremists.


After seeing the ABC interview, Palin is not ready to be President. Anyone with even a passing interest in foreign affairs is familar with the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive war and her not being able to answer shows that she was prepped with some set talking points and has no real inherent understanding of the issues.

She is not ready to be a heartbeat away from the leadership of the free world.


She has no idea what she is talking about, war with Russia. What a dummie!!!


What a cocky WACKO!


Yeah, we need three wars going on at the same time. Are we the world's police force?


Does anyone remember that Georgia provoked Russia with military forces first in their altercation? How can the United States and its Bush Doctrine contest Russia's actions when we engage in full scale preemptive war with Middle Eastern nations that are next store to Russia?

Our country does not need another war. This was the first of many interviews that will ultimately flatten Palin's credibility.


Thank you SWAMP for putting the word for word of the interview. It shows Sarah was talking in terms of Georgia being part of NATO, and she's not just some war mongering crazy person.


attack Russia? Is she kidding? We HAVE NOT attacked anyone for far less than what Russia did to Georgia! What are we going to do,bring back the draft? Where would the troops come from? Silly and scary!


For all the geniuses pointing out that Georgia isn't a NATO member - please read the article:

GIBSON: Would you favor putting Georgia and Ukraine in NATO?
PALIN: Ukraine, definitely, yes. Yes, and Georgia.
GIBSON: Because Putin has said he would not tolerate NATO incursion into the Caucasus.
PALIN: Well, you know, the Rose Revolution, the Orange Revolution, those actions have showed us that those democratic nations, I believe, deserve to be in NATO.
Putin thinks otherwise. Obviously, he thinks otherwise, but...


I thought today was supposed to be a sacred day...without campaigning.


Has anyone seen this interview with McCain by a Maine TV reporter on Palin's national security experience. You gotta watch it! It just amazes me that the questions asked from this Maine reporter has more substance than many of the major new organizations. What do you all think?


http://www.wcsh6.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersivep
layer&maven_referralObject=850878100


strange, but i expected no less from the repukelicans. war is one of their strong points.

i doubt russia will invade anyone that is truly backed up by NATO, Us and the EU. but what to expect when we 'assumed' russia would 'embrace democracy with open arms', then largely ignored the fact that there were constant signs of a regression to a totalitarian system there since the mid 90's.

you reap what you sow. hopefully those who have high access over there aren't so trigger happy with those nukes...


Didn't anybody actually READ the article? You read the headline and decide she's a war monger and the sky is falling?

READ it.


C Braun is right. Georgia is not a NATO member. We should not intervene.


However, Georgia is a member of the "Partnership for Peace" which is the last step before joining the treaty.
On January 5, 2008 Georgia held a non-binding referendum on NATO membership with 77% voting in favor of joining the organization.


Let the liberal bashing begin!. Gov Palin has insight as to what is going on in Russia invading Georgia and that it may be necessary to take action whether it diplomatic or with military force. Maybe she should have said oh no let Russia invade who they want it is none of our business and then Russia can just keep invading who they want...next thing you know they will be taking over. I fully understood where she was coming from with the religious comments about the war and that every human being has God given rights. At least Palin isn't a sissy and she is letting the world know that America will protect herself at all costs and it will also protect her allies! She seems more knowledge then B. Husein Obama on foreign affairs. What the hell does her traveling outside of the country have to do with anything. Big deal Obama went back to his homeland Keyna and to Iraq and Germany. They were for photo ops hell he didn't even visit the wounded troops in Germany cause they wouldn't allow photographers! At least when Gov Palin went to see the troops you see her interacting with them, eating with them, shooting with them. What the hell did B. Husein Obama do he shot hoops!!! As a vet and a mom who is going to have her first born son go to Iraq in Oct. I'd rather have McCain and Palin as his commander and chief the B. Husein Obama and Chatty Cathy Biden. Oh and I've been to Germany, Scotland, Wales, England, and Iran so I guess that make me have the right criteria to be the VP or president. And I'm also a vet but I was never a community organizer!


Man,she is total mental wreck.
Does she even realize,that there would be no winners in war with Russia.


I am shocked by Palin's view that the best way to deal with Russia is a war. I was in the Marines during the cold war and trained to fight a soviet army and then volunteered for combat in Desert Storm. From that experience any war with Russia will end in a nuclear showdown. To just spout out some dumb ass view that we will in effect just attack Russia after dinner next Friday to straighten them out for invading Georgia is evidence that Palin has no business running high government and probably not even Alaska. The best way to deal with Russia is to persuade the Russian army to abandon its leadership as Yeltsin did in 1990 and insitute a reform goverment with cooler heads that want to be accepted as Europeans. I am sick of this moronic idea that war is the best way to settle scores. It is a lousy way to accomplish anything and you cannot kill a man's wife and kids in a bombing raid and not expect to have that man and his buddies become your enemy for life as a result as we have to keep learning over and over again in Iraq.