Obama attacks McCain on Keating Five

I think Republicans expected Democrats to "sit back and take it". However, since they (esp. Palin this weekend with her poorly worded attacks on Obama) opened the ball, I hope they can dance to the tune they called.

John McCain is a pathetic old man and vindictive and with no good ideas on how to clean up the horrible mess created by the corrupt Bush regime. His only anwser is to smear Obama with lies. He is a dispeckable misfit and represents everything that is wrong with our political system today in America. The GOP junk yard attack dogs are good at confusing the not too informed voters. Hopefully, enough educated informed voters will not allow this hot head into the oval office.

Wasn't one of the Bush family involved as well...one who lives in Colorado???

I'll give this to the Obama camp, they are a quick study on repeling Rovian tactics. A combination of use your own and deflect your opponent as trying to change the subject is good politics.

Voters may think so too. Keating is much more related to the current banking situation than Ayers. It's actually related which makes it topical. Add to that Obama waits until the MccAin camp tries to paint Obama as a supporter of terroists and that he is "not like us" in thinking about America and Obama looks the better man.

Ayers is related to scaring America about what Obama will do (as if voters will really beleive he is a closet terror sympathizer). Voters don;t really think Obama is some radical though.

Keating is related to what scares and angers Americans about the influence peddling in government and how we got to this bailout. Voters also have been sold this maverick line so it's fair game to show a past mistake related to a current financial influence/regulation/crisis.

I can only imagine if Michelle Obama was a member of a party that wanted a her state to seperate form the U.S. An attack like on Todd Palin that is closer to the Ayers attack.

Obam learned that you do not let the other side get out there and bash you. You divide the media with an equal distraction. Neither Ayers nor Keating are that relevant this year and the media already knows that. Obama is just trying to make sure it stays that way.

A mud slinging skirmish started by Palin but reboundind to McCain all without making the mistake of attacking the precious Palin at all. smart.

I actually think McCain is out of his league with Obama. He's simply too good a counterpuncher and the economy is what people are focused on.

By bringing the mud out related to the economy the people will get it. McCain would have been better off if Ayers looked like a radical jihadist instead of a 60's hippie.

The public (not the red meat right) will see Ayers much more as a 40 years ago flag burner than a Bin laden.

If McCain wants to wade into this quagmire in the debate he will look like a right wing mean old nut. Obama on the other hand can point to McCain own admission that Keating was an error. But thats the rub Keating is relating to the S&L bailout and therefore the current mess. Ayers is related to character assasination only.

So much for no negative campaigning! What about Rezko and all the other cronies here in Chicago? Stroger economics is forcing businesses to close or move out of cook county. More sales tax, more transit worker jobs. Is this what America needs Mr. Obama?
http://www.bop-o-rama.com
Team McCain will have to hit back hard.

Ahhhhh it's John Mcarthy McSame and a replay of the witchhunts. "What party did you go to and who was at the party? And who did they bring?"

Obama sits on a foundation board with Ayers and other people. He was 8 when Ayers was in his Weatherman days. Nothing there.

Obama bought a house at the same time Rezko did, then bought some property from Rezko at market rates. Nothing there either.

But the Keating Five? documented wrongdoing, and ineptitude on McCain's part.

I truly feel that the Obama camp is making a horrific decision producing this web video.

Unfortunately, I think the McCain camp will come back with even more horrific ads of ties that Obama currently has, and some horrific findings from Obama's past. Obama is absolutely not squeaky clean and has some extra baggage that could play a huge downfall for him.

I do not think either party needs to move in this direction. Just tell us what what the canidates will do for us as President of our nation.

No Obama/Biden
No McCain/Palin

All four of these canidates are NOT ready to run our fine nation that is in a horrific mess.

Think the Obama campaign is just going to sit on the sidelines like Dukakis and Kerry when the desperate right-wing attack machine starts up?

I too am sad to see the campaigns stoop to this level.

Unfortunately, McCain started this...and to expect no reaction is either ignorant or stupid.

Now 'Bama needs to point out that the Palin's support secessionist movements in Alaska and elsewhere.
Eva Braun Palin in the true Manchurian Candidate of 08.

A strange coincidence that of the 5 people investigated in the Keating 5 scandal, 2 were given slaps of "poor judgment: the ex-POW John McCain and the ex-astronaut John Glenn. The other three got thrown under the bus with Keating. I just find it odd.

McSame's strategists believes that they can turn their bulldog (Sara) loose and make all kinds of wild claims to confuse the voters. If they are proven to be spreading more lies, as they have been in past weeks, they can just say that it was the crazed hockey mom speaking not the McSame campaign.

Scumbag politics has always been a mainstay of the Republican Party. From Nixon to Bush 43. Before Bush 43, I would never think of voting along party lines, but the distruction his criminal administration and rubber stamp congress has done to this contry has made me a firm believer in their insincerity and since 2006 I will only vote for Democratic candidates.

Once the Republicans can no longer block Democratic congressional actions, then I expect to see some major changes in this countrys direction.

I find it humorous how the Republican candidates for office now inclued in their campaign propaganda the "They Opposed George Bush ..." They must really think the voting public is stupid and won't remember how for 6 long distructive years, they rubber stamped everything that King George requested, wether it was legal or not.

No more. It's time they pay for putting party before the people!

Pit-bull, hardly. Instead she has become a little chihuhua that keeps biting at your feet to the point you just want to kick it away. Sad to see that the so-called "Maverick" has turned into a typical Republican - repulsive, say and do anything to win a vote, regardless of the truthfulnes of what is being said. Hopefully most Americans can see through his crap and vote for real change in DC.

@Curtis: AMEN. None of these candidates are fit. Why the hell do these parties keep giving us DOGS to vote for?

Hit McSlime hard. Destroy what little is left of his reputation. He deserves everything he gets. He took the low road. He chose the tactics of personal destruction. He cheapened our political discourse for his own personal gain. A man with no honor like McCain deserves no respect, he deserves no quarter. He is a disgrace. He who sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind.

With 30 days left, I am not surprised that the GOP started "swiftboating". But the Obama camp is not going to sit back and let them lie like they always do. Sure, every politician has baggage. You don't get the be oresident without side stepping a few land mines. Now they started it. Don't start none, won't be none, but if they do, LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's about time!!
McCain truly has experience with bank scandals, like the one we are enduring right now.
Only his experience is as the perpretator of the scandals.
It's about time Obama took the gloves off, the repugs have been slinging mud for months.

Is this the "news" reporting that we are expected to use to make a decision about the next president?
Let's replace coverage of the attack ads and responses with coverage of the candidate's statements about education, wall street reform, health policies, foreign policy, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. That is, more coverage of the issues that matter and less coverage of the smear tactics of the campaigns.
The media is guilty of exacerbating the negative campaigning and not providing the same coverage of the candidate's stands on the issues that are relevant.

Pathetic! I, for one would prefer to vote for someone with intelligence, class and a real understanding of the world. When I see a negative add run by one party against the other I am completely turned off! TALK about the issues; TALK about today's problems and how to fix them; TALK about what makes your candidate qualified.
DON'T fabricate in an effort to scare the public; DON'T spend more time hurling insults at the other candidate than you do discussing the issues; DON'T field not-so-bright running mates; DON'T pretend to be someone you are not!
When McCain began his campaign I was actually taking a good look at him as a viable candidate. I thought that he had the "right stuff" to become our next president. When he said that he would run a clean campaign I tried real hard to believe him.
McCain is running a Bush style campaign that contains a lot BS, noise and outright lies. Like Bush, McCain is devoid of the intellectual ability to really understand the world we live in.
Now he has Palin as a running mate....!
Sorry John McCain, your campaign tactics, your weak grip on reality and your choice of Palin for a running mate has scared the hell out of me!
I can't, with a clear conscience, vote GOP.

Rezko is small change compared to the Keating 5 scandal. McCain is pure scum for taking the election in this direction while our glorious nation is in desperate times.

Obama should have used this, I hope, even without the "terrorist" allegations from Sarah Palin who obviously scores very low in reading comprehension or simply does not care that she is lying. The Keating Scandal is relavent to what is happening now.
As for Obama's "friendship" with Ayers, Ayers was already many years past those actions and teaching at the U of Chicago when Obama met him - he had obviously changed his ways or at least rejected violence as a means. I'm sure Obama was attracted to Ayers intellectual conversation and shared political interests. That does not mean that Obama agreed with everything Ayers has ever said or done.
Ayers & Resko sought out Obama, they saw opportunities in him and his political future to be exploited to further their own political agenda's. Obama did nothing immoral or illegal in either of those relationships.

It's not "fair game", it's ridiculous. McCain has already been investigated and exonerated. The difference is Obama has NOT told the truth about his relationship with Ayers. He acts like he barely knows the guy, rather than working with him for 7 years. If Obama just told the truth at the beginning it wouldn't even be an issue. The coverup is always worse than the crime.

I think we need to empty the Senate and then empty the House, fill those seats with regular b - flat simple Americans who make a lot less than all those FAT CATS in Washington. We need to open the voting machines more frequently to get the real American response to issues. The next president and vice president are going to be of little significance in the issues of reducing our national debt and creating a better American way of life for common everyday "work yer keaster off" Americans. These FAT CATS have no reality to 60+ hour work weeks just trying to pay for the utilities, home, food, gas etc. They've all been in politics so long that they don't have a clue about non-political problems - they only have learned how to distort the truth and deal out misinformation so well that their truth has become a reality to them. Sorry but this next election won't really mean CHANGE either way.

I'm sorry, does the name Frank Raines ring a bell with any of you Liberals?

Why is he on Obama's short list of advisors?

See folks, this isn't just responding to dirt w/ dirt, this stuff isn't lies, McCain was part and parcel of the last big bailout under G HW Bush and now right before the GW Bush bailout, he claims the economy is sound. He has no clue on economy and frankly he has no clue on the role of government in that economy. While people are blowing their brains out literally over foreclosures, McCain and his highly credible (oh boy!) VP pick resort to mudslining. Mr Honorable my aunt fannie (may)

So, let's bring up Speaker Nancy Pelois' involvement iof the $ 520 million rescue of the bank holdings of the Pritzker family. Bank pres at the time was Penny Pritzker, the campaign finance person for Obamination. The Pritziker family made up 50% of the board which mismanaged the bank, yet won big when they were bailed out to the tune of the taxpayer dollars.

OK, Lets be fair! McCain went through an investigation many years ago and was exonerated by a Democrat Speical Counsel. So now it is Obama's turn to be investigated for his numerous disceptions.

Obama is a protegy of the
Daily Political Machine and
this machine beat out the Clinton
Machine. The Daily Machine runs Chicago. Talk is cheap and Obama is from the Windy
City and is full of hot air.. We know nothing about him and his political leanings other then he plans to tax us to death..
Answer all the questions about
his associates that the Liberal
Media has chose to ignore. The
voters of this nation need to know ALL THE TRUTH. about
this man.

What about McSames relationship with convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy?

Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in "if necessary"; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a "gangland figure" to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap "leftist guerillas" at the 1972 Republican National Convention -- a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain's campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy's radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May. An online video labeled "John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07" includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an "old friend." During the segment, McCain praised Liddy's "adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great," said he was "proud" of Liddy, and said that "it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program."

Additionally, in 1998, Liddy reportedly held a fundraiser at his home for McCain. Liddy was reportedly scheduled to speak at another fundraiser for McCain in 2000.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200810040004?f=h_top

You know all this stuff about Ayers is really rich. Obama seems to have worked together with Ayers in this country on a charity. That's about the extent of the connection. Presumably , Ayers has been under surveillance forever.

George W. Bush, Cheney and all the rest of the Republicans, however, have been in cahoots with high ups in the Saudi government - which include the Bin Ladens - for decades. In fact, there is some reason to believe that the Bush government connived to spirit members of the Bin Laden family out of the US after 9-11.

With Obama and Ayers we are talking acquaintance for charity: Ayers was some kind of hippie revolutionary in the 60s and Obama was about 8 when he was doing his radical stuff. (Obama has since denounced Ayers and what he advocated.)

With the Republican Bush Admin we are talking possible connections to the Bin Ladens as recent as 9/11/2001 (and perhaps much later. Indeed, could it be that the Bushes did not prosecute the war against Osama Bin Laden and take him out because of their close Saudi ties?) To any thinking person, the Bin Laden connection - which involves Republicans - is far more troublesome since it involves actual treason. God knows what skeletons are in the closets of the Republicans who have given us the worst presidential administration in history.

REPUBLICANS OUT!

Be Specific LwB, oh you can't because you and your party have nothing but bogus innuendo and lies.

Keating Five? The Obama campaign can't find anything other than a 20 year old scandal where McCain was INVESTIGATED and CLEARED of wrongdoing? An honest media would rip this to shreds. But I expect that would be too much to ask.

American people needs to know the truth about the candidates.National security is very important,remember 911 tragedy,brought down our economy.obviously OBAMA is hiding something.If this ather way around all the networks will air this every minute.

I believe one of the reasons former republican voters like myself have jumped ship to the dem side is because of the type of campaign McCain is running. It's gutter-stuff. It is just so low life and negative.

If he can't talk to the American people and explain what he wants to do for the country then he doesn't have my vote.

Obama is constantly in a position where he is defending himself against really stupid attacks.

This election is not being won by Obama - it is being lost by McCain. Grumpy Angry McCain is handing this to Obama on a silver platter. I have no intention of living in a country with an angry, punitive president.

It's not "fair game", it's ridiculous. McCain has already been investigated and exonerated. The difference is Obama has NOT told the truth about his relationship with Ayers. He acts like he barely knows the guy, rather than working with him for 7 years. If Obama just told the truth at the beginning it wouldn't even be an issue. The coverup is always worse than the crime.
Posted by: chrisb | October 6, 2008 10:07 AM

How do you know Obama hasn't "told the truth"? What do expect him to say? "Oh yeah, we cooked up some plans to bomb some buildings"? Get over it already.

And sorry, your candidate started this game, so it's all on the table now. The Keating scandal is fair game, given the banking crisis we are now in.

I would prefer if these 'relationships' could be relegated to history and we could focus on the issues of today, but it's the law of campaigning that the weaker candidate is going to play dirty. Obama has to fight fire with fire in this case.

Posted by: Hank | October 6, 2008 10:18 AM

Does the name Rick Davis ring a bell to you Mccain supporters? Why is a man who got paid $2,000,000 dollars to fight against further regulations of Fanmnie Mae Mccain's campaign manager? Why is a man who's company was getting paid $15,000 a month by Fannie Mae until just last month running McCain's campaign?

WOW - the Obama camp must really be having a hard time coming up with anything bad about McCain if that's the best they can do! LOL - McCain was completely cleared of anything to do with it years ago. I thought Mr. Obama was so virtuous and above the smears!! The Obama campaign has been doing it all along - they just did it through the liberal media press.

Amen, Senator Obama. It's about time.

Former Sen. John Glenn is one of Obama's biggest surrogates in Ohio. He recently introduced Obama at his Bruce Springsteen fund raiser concert last week. Glenn was one of the Keating Five along with McCain. They were both cleared of wrong doing. So, if Obama is going to use this against McCain, he better throw Glenn under the bus right now. Watch the replay of Hannity's America from last night on You Tube. There was some scary stuff about Obama's association with a former PLO member who now teaches at Columbia University (Obama's alma mater). Obama and Ayers's sent money this guy's way when they served on the Wood's Foundation.

Now that Senator Obama has been "suckered" into the character issue, we should have some fun seeing some of the baggage he's been carrying around. That is, presuming the Tribune and the rest of the mainstream media decide to start covering it.

Who knows, maybe SNL will reprise the dead-on look alike of him from the Obama/Clinton debate skits.

By the way, wonder what thrown under the bus Hillary thinks of all this?

Obama is a Marxist. Google 'Audacity of Socialism' for a primer. It's time that Obama explain his past from his community organizing days with ACORN, and the dubious politics he has been involved in.

If the the McCain campaign is going to throw mud then they shouldn't be surprised or react with "righteous indignation" when mud gets thrown back his way.

Everyone knows that an ethic investigation conducted by Congresscritters and Senate Varmints is going to be a whitewash. But by gosh that one only faulted Senator McCain for "poor judgement". So it's safe to claim that he had nothing to do with taking $54,000 from Keating (who admitted he expected something in return) and he didn't do everything he could to delay the investigation of Keating's S & L until it collapsed several years later costing the taxpayers over 3 billion dollars. Oh no, he was "exonerated". In a lipstick wearing pig's eye perhaps.

Message to McCain: Won't you ever learn that your problems shouldn't be bigger than the guy you accuse? How dumb can you be? You proved it with that bimbo as a running mate....it's sooo over for you guys.

Don't forget that the Communist Party of America has endorsed Obama:

"The struggle to defeat the ultra-right and turn our country on a positive path will not end with Obama’s election. But that step will shift the ground for successful struggles going forward."

http://www.cpusa.org/article/view/975/

IN REGARDS TO THOSE THAT HAVE A NON-STOP MANTRA that BHO was only 8 yrs old when Ayers stomped on our US flag:

Barack Obama was much older than 8 when William Ayers was photographed stepping on a US flag in 2001, for an article in which Ayers said he had “No Regrets” for his violent actions in the Weather Underground. In fact, at the same time Ayers was in a Chicago alley desecrating the flag, he and Barack Obama were serving on the board of the Woods Fund together... Deborah Harrington, president of the Woods Fund... said Obama was a director from 1994 through 2001.

That overlaps Ayers’ time as a director by three years.

I'm surprised the Tribune would run the quote, "Nor has Barack Obama come clean on his close friendship with Tony Rezko, a felon convicted on bribery charges who subsidized the purchase of Barack Obama's home." Although it is attributed to a McCain spokesman, the comment on subsidizing the home purchase is simply not true. The Tribune has an obligation to point out factual errors in its quotes.

Another thought: Ayers was never convicted of anything and of course 8-year old Obama was not involved in what he supposedly did. Keating was convicted and did hard time for a crime that McCain himself abetted by meeting with regulators to try to get them to back off. Thus, Ayers is a distraction while Keating is very relevant.

We can take the Obama jab that he "knows" Bill Ayers. But was Obama himself a member of the Weather Underground. At 8 years old?

McCain on the other hand IS a member of the Keating Five. And McCain was is associated closely with members of PNAC Project for a New American Century. And McCain also sat on the board of the anti-semetic and racist Council for the Defense of Freedom. These are indisputable.

As for Governor Palin, she is associated with the secessionist group Alaskan Independence Party. The AIP condemns the United States of America and refuses to pledge allegence to the U.S. flag. The leadership of the AIP say (on video) that Governor Palin was a member before being elected Governor and her husband still is one. Sarah Palin also did a video introduction for AIP's convention. Both of these videos are on Youtube.

Both McCain and Palin are members of radical groups. If we are talking about the past, which Palin said we shouldn't, then they need to be asked about their associations with these extremist groups. If Obama's associations are in question, then McCain/Palin must be too.

This is getting gud..Mccaine thought Obama sit down and let this ppl run over him with their lies..I bet if u go deeper u wud find lotsa lies abt his POW dayz..I think McCaine's stratagy is lie everyday so ppl wont keep up with his story..This very old man is a flat out lier and now he found a moose hunting trash talker..

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. The "paling around with radicals" is kinda funny. Most of those "Weathermen" types are middle class Americans today with jobs and families. I used to call them "armchair Marxists" - and it was pretty hard not to be like this is you went to "elite" colleges back then. It's almost laughable to me that Rove is digging this up. But Keating 5? McCain sold his integrity to protect a now incarcerated felon for stealing over 20,000 people's life savings. No wonder he says he's for government bailout. After all, all of us had to pay TWO BILLION bucks because of Keating's fraud. Were it not for our crisis, the Keating 5 scandal would be more of same, digging up dirt, and they all are doing it. But this is different. How many of us gave oursevlves a little education in economics since the crash? What happened was primarily because the foxes were watching the hen house. I used to think Obama didn't have a chance - not just because of race and his name. Americans don't like too smart leaders, and if they do, they hide it. Clinton and Reagan and Bush all ooze charm, and they won partly for this. But we won't get fooled again! To be sure neither McCain nor Obama are charmers, but it's becoming more and more clear that McCain has always taken care of his rich friends first. After all, he's one of the ultra rich, now isn't he. Shame on him. It's over.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. The "paling around with radicals" is kinda funny. Most of those "Weathermen" types are middle class Americans today with jobs and families. I used to call them "armchair Marxists" - and it was pretty hard not to be like this is you went to "elite" colleges back then. It's almost laughable to me that Rove is digging this up. But Keating 5? McCain sold his integrity to protect a now incarcerated felon for stealing over 20,000 people's life savings. No wonder he says he's for government bailout. After all, all of us had to pay TWO BILLION bucks because of Keating's fraud. Were it not for our crisis, the Keating 5 scandal would be more of same, digging up dirt, and they all are doing it. But this is different. How many of us gave oursevlves a little education in economics since the crash? What happened was primarily because the foxes were watching the hen house. I used to think Obama didn't have a chance - not just because of race and his name. Americans don't like too smart leaders, and if they do, they hide it. Clinton and Reagan and Bush all ooze charm, and they won partly for this. But we won't get fooled again! To be sure neither McCain nor Obama are charmers, but it's becoming more and more clear that McCain has always taken care of his rich friends first. After all, he's one of the ultra rich, now isn't he. Shame on him. It's over.

Where does everyone think that the money is going to come from to fund Obamas government healthcare plan? Does he even really realize how his own healthcare benefits are funded??? That money comes out of every American citizens paycheck that works. I personally do not care to pay for healthcare of the many lazy Americans that sit at home (not working) with their hand held out. Obama is an excellent public speaker, but does he really understand where the funding for many of his programs will come from? Do you?