Palin's standing unchanged by debate

You want four more years of nu-cue-lar?

How can Obama get away with supporting the failed Bush policies of the bailout? McCain should not have voted for it on principle. Presidetn Bush leaves office a Socialist.
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Obam wants another half a trillion to stimulate the economy. I guess if you issue the next checks as coupons that have to be spent at the Obama store....

One question for you Acarponzo. How old are you and are you old enough to vote. If so, obviously you prefer the proposed monies for wars and building economies in other countries than paying for the health of your own country! Thats whats sad about you and your bunch! Cut taxes, borrow from the Chinease to fund the wars, ignore the constitution and allow your own country fall to pieces! The lack of patriotism in your republican philosophies is dumbfounding!

I rarely post comments to articles, but have to because I am stupefied -- just slack-jawed stumped -- at how anyone can hold a "favorable view" of Ms. Palin, in the context of her potentially being VP. Favorable in that she is ambitious, pretty, confident, whatever...I'll accept that. Favorable in that she is could hold the second highest office in our government, with the full confidence of the people she serves? A million times no. What seems to be passing for qualifications to hold such office reflects the extent to where expectations are lowered so far that Ms. Palin gets positive marks for not wholly screwing up. This woman's lack of intelligence, inquisitiveness and coherence from one thought to the next would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. She is an embarrassment.

I’m not sure if Palin answered any question directly. She was giving prepared speeches throughout the night. She had different choices for different types of questions. When they didn’t fit it looked like she just picked one or repeated a previous speech/ answer; the speech she chose on numerous occasions not only didn’t answer the question it wasn’t even related to the question. The people that prepared her probably instructed her to repeat the same speech if she didn’t know the answer to the question. There was not one thing that she was an expert on or had deep knowledge.

As for the heart of the American people, Joe Biden has the heart of the Americans not Palin. People can relate to him more. I’ve always known and history has continually proven that when the middle class flourishes, everyone does! I am a CPA and mother of 5 children. In ANY professional gathering I have NEVER seen a women speak like she does; winking and talking down to people as though the American people are in early grade school. How many times do McCain and Palin have to say Maverick? How many times to various types of questions did Palin have to repeat the same speech about Wal-Street being corrupt, advocating for a smaller government, lower taxes and more freedom? What is their plan on cutting government spending and weeding out the corruption? By the way not everyone on Wal-Street is corrupt. A lot of the people are extremely intelligent, hard working, and honest.

She at no point was giving specifics about any questions except when asked about VP she said she was going to be in charge of alternative fuel and children with disabilities because they are both near and dear to her heart. For one thing she would NOT be very interested in alternative methods of energy. Only caring about her state; she is extremely interested in “drill baby drill”. It is nice that she wants to be involved with children having disabilities. If her baby didn’t have Down syndrome would that have been a priority to her? What about all children; abused, orphans, etc.? The president and vice president should be smart and represent all people, not just the hockey moms and Joe six pack (not that she truly represents them either). Obama/ Biden’s plan on helping the economy will not only help the middle class, but the poor and rich as well. McCain’s plan will not help anyone including the rich. I exclude Palin from the previous sentence because she has not contributed to any plan and doesn’t even know McCain’s plan.

For people that are interested in crunching the numbers. Look up past financial data since the depression and note that when the president/ VP was a democrat the economy flourished more than when the republicans were in office., by flourished I mean all classes of Americans; wealthy, middle class, poor (less poor people).

Both candidates were nice to one another. However only Biden was speaking to the facts and answering most of the questions specifically with deep knowledge of each subject. It is extremely important for people to completely know and understand what is going on globally. If one does you would completely back Obama/ Biden’s strategy for handling international affairs and not McCain’s. Another plus about Obama is that he is continually improving his knowledge and that he chose a VP that would have the intelligence, experience, and knowledge to help aid him in his decision making. That is what the best leaders do, they surround themselves with smart people that are experts in their fields and speak their minds freely. I do not see McCain making the same great choice that Obama has either in his advisors and especially his VP. That is not to say that Palin is not a nice person, I don’t know her to make that judgment. I can, however, know that she would be the worse VP and definitely president based on what I’ve seen of her at the Republican Convention, interviews, lack of access to the press, and her debate.

As for US security, why would we want someone in the white house whose husband belongs to the Alaskan Libertarian party that wanted to secede from the United States of America? Sarah Palin had been to a lot of their meetings and spoke there. Note their platform and what Sarah kept repeating are one in the same, “advocates for a smaller government, lower taxes and more freedom.” Don’t take my word for it, research it. McCain chose her; what kind of judgment is that? Let’s have someone who doesn’t want to be an American, only an Alaskan, live in our White House! Great Plan!!

In conclusion, Biden will not only make a great VP, but would make a great president as well. Obama will make a great president. Palin would be a horrific VP and president. McCain, although I believe he means well, I feel that his plans for the economy and internationally would hurt us more than help us. This is why it is important for everyone to learn economics, finance, history, international affairs, etc. People can better judge the issues and the plans if they understand them. Palin and McCain are banking on most Americans not understanding the issues, which is why they don’t talk about the details of their plans, just that there are horrific problems and we’re going to solve them. Wake up people and smell the coffee! Learn the issues and make an educated decision.

I read McCain has a terrible temper. He doesn't like being called short or balding. So, remember the old "Maverick" theme song about James Garner? Who is the short bald Senator there, Maverick is his name flailingaround to who no where, Palin is his companion, gambling is his game.

As of this past weekend, it's clear that Palin's job is to act as a distraction. She will be the one to serve up one old "news" story after another about Obama -- all of which have already been dealt with in the media over these past months. However, since we don't know whether or not she reads newspapers, maybe she missed those stories. (They may want to be careful playing this way. I recommend the Keating Five video that is circulating on the internet, especially if you are too young to know about the savings & loan disaster.)

As long as she continues with the Obama non-stories, and he continues to use precious time refuting them, then obviously the Repugs will not have to waste their time actually detailing to the American people just what their solutions are for the myriad problems facing this country.

I have not yet heard McCain detail any of his specific plans. We need SPECIFICS. I don't know why that is so difficult for these folks.

Finally, I must say that the upside of the arrival of Sarah Palin is that Tina Fey is once again on SNL, and is absolutely hilarious.

I hear that Obama accomplished something from an executive level once and after 2 years of campaigning, I still don't know what that accomplishment is.

Friends,
You must dust off the Twenty-fifth Amendment to the Constitution. If Palin becomes Vice President, she will have the role of deciding when the President is unfit to serve. Most people think that she'd assume power if McCain were to die. This is not so. Read the language:

"Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President." Do you think she will blink?

It's sad when no major gaffs means a successful debate. As far as I'm concerned it wasen't even a debate. She just made prepared speeches. Anyone who would support her is obviously pathetically dumb.

Hey to all you anti-pinkos out there--the pinkos must have done something right, since they're now the rich ones and we're the poor ones. Those pinko Chinese probably own a good percentage of your mortgage.

RIDDLE

Q: After January 20, what will the difference be between a pigeon and a McCain lobbyist friend?

A: The pigeon will still be able to leave a deposit on a BMW.

While Mrs. Palin is at it, I wonder if we could also discuss her interest --along with Todd's -- in the Alaska secessionist group. Yes, THAT certainly sounds like the patriotism that she extols.

Or, when the topic switches to Sen. Obama's former church, I think it's only fair to discuss the Palins' church as well. Especially the occasion when an African minister associated with their church prayed over her, and specifically to protect her from witchcraft. And the times she stood before the congregation and prayed for a pipeline, and for her own political success. (At least the camera didn't catch her praying for a parking space at the mall.) Yeah, THAT'S certainly all about Main Street.

Surely it's fair to be distracted on each side equally.

why is the Tribune continuing to post stuff from The Swamp? Don't they have journalists of their own? The Swamp is so obviously a fan of Obama and the articles are very slanted

According to your new publisher, Chicago Tribune circulation continues to decline. Do you think it just might be all those Republican readers jumping ship from a newspaper that has adopted an "attack Palin at any cost" mentality? Why should we pay to read a newspaper that is so blatantly anti-Republican, anti-Palin, pro-Obama in its news department (not to be confused with the Editorial Department on which the jury is still out)?

A Manchurian Candidate?

How Bill Ayers was funded by foundation created by Reagan friend ...

HOW COME OBAMA GETS HIT WITH HAVING A PASSING ACQUAINTANCE WITH AYERS, WHILE THE FORMER TERRORIST WAS ACTUALLY FUNDED BY A FOUNDATION CREATED BY A FRIEND OF RONALD REAGAN???

http://www.annenbergfoundation.org/about/

The Honorable Walter H. Annenberg
"I believe in social responsibility. A man's service to others must be at least in ratio to the character of his own success in life. When one is fortunate enough to gain a measure of material well being, however small, service to others should be uppermost in his mind." - Walter H. Annenberg (1951)

Walter H. Annenberg was born in 1908 and enjoyed a distinguished career as a publisher, broadcaster, diplomat, and philanthropist.

He graduated from The Peddie School in Hightstown, New Jersey and attended the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. He entered the family publishing business in Philadelphia where he became the President of Triangle Publications in 1940 and, subsequently, Chairman of the Board.

While serving as Editor and Publisher of The Philadelphia Inquirer, Mr. Annenberg saw the need for a publication for teenage girls and, in 1944, established Seventeen Magazine. In 1953, as a result of his belief that television's growth would create a demand for more information on the part of viewers, he established TV Guide as a national publication.

Under Mr. Annenberg's leadership, Triangle Publications bought a radio station in the early 1940's in Philadelphia and built a VHF television station which was one of the first TV stations owned by a publishing house. The radio-TV division of Triangle grew to include six AM and six FM radio stations, and six TV stations. The Philadelphia station pioneered a number of broadcasting concepts among which was Mr. Annenberg's decision to use television to present a series of educational programs that ran for more than a decade. In 1951, Mr. Annenberg became an early awardee of the prestigious Alfred I. DuPont Award for pioneering education via television. He was also given the Marshall Field Award in 1958. In 1983, he received the Ralph Lowell Medal for his "outstanding contribution to public television."

A man with a deep interest in education, Mr. Annenberg founded The Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania in 1958 and The Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Southern California in 1971. In 1983, he established the Washington Program in Communications Policy Studies in response to growing awareness that difficult government and industry problems were emerging in the rapidly changing telecommunications field.

He served as Ambassador to the Court of St. James's, Great Britain, from 1969 to 1974. By the late 1980's, having sold all of his publishing and broadcast enterprises, Ambassador Annenberg devoted his attention to philanthropy and public service.

I used to respect McCain until he picked Palin as his running mate. Another Quayle. Inexcusable.

If Obama gets in, it's our last free election anyway. Hail and praise his highness Barack Obama.

Don't forget, anyone who does not vote for him is automatically racist and stupid.

Pretty laughable how all the Democrats--President Obama, Senators Durbin, Reid, Dodd, Congressman Barney Frank, continue to assert, each day, that the mortgage meltdown crisis was caused by Republicans.

FACTS, people, FACTS:

1. 2001-April, the Bush administration, in its 2002 budget proposal, asserted that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is a "potential problem," and that financial trouble in these Government Sponsored Entities, or GSEs, could "cause strong repercussions in financial markets."

2. 2003, autumn, the Bush administration pushed Congress to create a new federal agency to regulate and supervise Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

On 2003-Sep-10, then-Treasury Secretary John Snow, before the House Financial Services Committee, " We need a strong, world-class regulatory agency to oversee the prudential operations of the GSEs, and the safety, and the soundness of their financial activities."

On the same day, 2003-Sep-10, at the same hearing, the ranking Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee Congressman Barney Frank (now chairman of the same committee) said in response, "Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are not in a crisis. The more people, in my judgement, exaggerate a threat of safety and soundness, the more people conjur up the possibility of serious financial losses, to the Treasury, which I do not see, I think we see entities which are fundamentally sound financially and withstand some of the disaster scenarios, and even if there were a problem the federal government doesn't bail them out. But the more pressure there is there, the less I think we see in terms of affordable housing."

The legislation the Bush administration put forward that day was blocked.

3. Alan Greenspan, 2005-Sep-17, to the House Financial Services Committee, on Fannie/Freddie, "Enabling these institutions to increase in size--they they will once the crisis in their judgement passess--we are placing the total financial system of the future at substantial risk."

4. Alan Greenspan, 2006-Apr-6, "If we fail to strengthen GSE regulation we increase the possibility of insolvency and crisis."

The same day, Democratic Senator Chuck Schummer, "I think Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac over the years has done a good job and are an intrinsic part of making America the best-housed people in the world. If you look over the last 20 or whatever years, they have done a very, very, good job."

5. Senate floor, 2006-May-25, John McCain, "For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac... and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market... the GSEs need to be reformed without delay." In the Senate Banking Committee, the Fannie/Freddie reform legislation that McCain cosponsored, 100% of the Republicans voted FOR it, and 100% of the Democrats, including Chuck Schummer and Chris Dodd, voted AGAINST it. This bill that passed the Banking Committee on a straight party-line voted was blocked by Democrats from passing the full Senate. Senator Obama was silent on this legislation. This was Senate Bill S. 190, the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005.

As we know now, Dodd received $133,900 in campaign contributions from Fannie/Freddie (per opensecrets.org), ranking #1 in Congress. Obama received $105,949 from Fannie / Freddie (per opensecrets.org), ranking #3 in Congress.

6. 2008-Sep-25, former President Clinton indicated he AGREED with Fox News assertions that Democrats are responsible for failure to rein in Fannie/Freddie--Bill Clinton told ABC's Chris Cuomo that for years, Democrats have been "resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was President to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."

Mr. Drummond,

Good point, it makes me wonder why King George I didn't exercise that mandate when it was obvious Reagan was suffering from Alzheimers midway through his second term.

The rebuplics always put their own self-interest before country.

The criticisms against Palin are oddly familiar to the same ones tossed at Carter in '76.

He was too religious, a not-done-with-first-term governor ...

How soon we all forget.

The folks who cling to tired old Republican philosophy are just as misguided as the old radicals who spout Karl Marx. Both remind me of fundamentalist bible-thumpers who suspend all disbelief, ignore what is obvious all around them and stubbornly hold on to beliefs which fail the sanity test. Hard-line Republicans, bible-thumping fundies and anachronistic communists are all cut from the same cloth: delusional, authoritarian and hopeless.

As for Sarah Palin, she is in two of those three groups, which can only mean she is doubly deluded. And she may be good at playing to the camera, but she is as vacant as G. W. Bush or Britney Spears. She's a performer, not a stateswoman. She answers questions like a contestant at a beauty pageant: doesn't know anything so just strings together words and repeats memorized phrases. Anyone who thinks she is qualified to lead is deluded.

Bill Ayers was funded by a foundation created by Ambassador Walter Annenberg, a close friend of Ronald Reagan, who Palin and McCain profess to adore ...

HOW COME OBAMA GETS HIT WITH HAVING A PASSING ACQUAINTANCE WITH AYERS???

WHAT ABOUT THE GOP CONNECTION TO AYERS???

SEEMS DILETTANTE SARAH PALIN LIKES TO DABBLE IN RACIAL PROFILING ...

http://www.annenbergfoundation.org/about/
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The Brown University News Bureau

Distributed January 23, 1995
Contact: Mark Nickel

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The Chicago Annenberg proposal was developed through discussions among a broad-based coalition of local school council members, teachers, principals, school reform groups, union representatives and central office staff, convened by Anne Hallett of the Cross City Campaign for Urban School Reform, WILLIAM AYERS of the University of Illinois at Chicago, and Warren Chapman of the Joyce Foundation. ...

When you as dumb as Palin, anything can happen or be said. She cannot put a full sentence together and she went to six different colleges. And she accused Biden of talking about the past in the debate. Now just what is she and McCain talking about right now. The past. Confused, keep listening to their trash talk. They have no answers or solutions so they have went negative. Trying to get our mind off the economy. Good old senile McCain. Crash 3 navy planes when in the service, that he continues to hide. Yes it is in the Navy records that he was fly reckless. Wasted lots of taxpayers dollars

After 12 years of Obama, I still haven't changed my mind. He's still an unqualified, done-nothing, sham of a candidate who only an utterly ignorant person could support.

True that Palin is not qualified for the presidency should something happen to John McCain. But what possible qualifications does Mr. Obama have, other than a short-term Senator as the actual president? Many are afraid of Palin's qualifications as vice president, while I am deathly afraid of Obama's qualifications as president. What has he actually accomplished other than speaking really well and promising to be different. A better different? We all hope so. But actually, I don't understand what he believes in, since his opinions change so often. He promises college for all and health care for all. Who will pay for all?

Instead of worrying about the vice president's qualifications, we better very seriously examine the potential president's qualifications.

Amazing Palin gets ridiculed for being a real, authentic person, who actually received more votes for Mayor of her ho-dunk Alaska town than Joe Biden got for running for President of USA.

Biden got a number of his facts wrong. Did anyone report it besides Fox News ? I'd be surprised. All the other media outlets are effectively Obama's campaign media arms.

-- Will McCain's health care proposals raise taxes? Biden says that McCain’s proposal will cost people money. The Tax Foundation finds that could easily be "roughly deficit-neutral over ten years."

-- Under an Obama Administration the middle class will "pay no more than they did under Ronald Reagan"? No, the tax rates will be similar to the higher rates under Clinton.

-- Did "we spend more money in three weeks on combat in Iraq than we spent on the entirety of the last seven years that we have been in Afghanistan building that country"? No, one year’s worth of spending in Iraq equaled five in Afghanistan.

-- France and the U.S. "kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon"? No, and it wouldn't have made much more sense if he had said "Syria" instead.

-- Is it really “simply not true” that Obama said that he would meet with the leader of countries such as Iran without preconditions? No, Obama said “I would.”

-- Did Obama warn against letting Hamas participate in Palestinian legislative elections in 2005? No.

-- Do “Iraqis have an $80 billion surplus”? No. If oil prices had remained high, it might have reached $50 billion by the end of this year.

-- Finally, an amusing point as evidence that Biden is just one of the people he pointed to, inviting anyone to have a beer with him at "Katie's Restaurant" in Wilmington, Del. Unfortunately, people will have a hard time taking him up on his offer, since the restaurant hasn't had that name for probably 15 years.

Not surprised that Palin's debate performance didn't change her ratings in the polls. Yes, she looked and acted confident and feisty. She also failed to answer most of the questions, and her winking, grinning persona came accross as horribly unpresidential. She reminded me of a student that gets an essay question they don't know the answer to and rambles on about something unrelated in the hopes that the teacher won't notice! Well, in the case of Palin America noticed.

AJBF nailed it. Only post here worth reading.

One other point, Palin tried to pass herself off as an "outsider" who was unfamiliar with the ways of Washington politics. She complains that Biden is "looking backwards" by talking so much about the CURRENT Bush administration and not looking forward.

The next day, she's complaining about a relationship Obama had with someone while working on a CHARITY a decade ago. That sounded to me like a polished political operative playing the same ol' politics of "do as I say, not as I do."

The latest on squeakey clean McCain.
He denies it but now his judgement can be called into question again.

McCain linked to group in Iran-Contra case
Organization had ties to former Nazi collaborators, right-wing death squads

GOP presidential nominee John McCain has past connections to a private group that supplied aid to guerrillas seeking to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua in the Iran-Contra affair.

McCain's ties are facing renewed scrutiny after his campaign criticized Barack Obama for his link to a former radical who engaged in violent acts 40 years ago.

The U.S. Council for World Freedom was part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The group was dedicated to stamping out communism around the globe.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27062761

Alaska Attorney General Talis Colberg announced today that seven state employees will now honor subpoenas to testify in the legislative investigation of the Troopergate affair.

Colberg said the decision comes in light of a judge's ruling last week rejecting an attempt to quash the subpoenas.

All seven employees have decided, in light of Superior Court Judge Peter Michalski's decision, to cooperate with the legislative investigation, according to a statement today from Colberg's office.

"Despite my initial concerns about the subpoenas, we respect the court's decision to defer to the Legislature," Colberg said. "We are working with Senator Hollis French to arrange for the testimony of the seven state employee plaintiffs."

The Legislature's investigator, retired state prosecutor Steve Branchflower, is expected to complete his report by Friday into whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power by trying to force the firing of a state trooper involved in a child custody battle with her sister.

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Let's see -

1. Todd a member of a group that wants to secede from the Union. That means he is a terrorist folks.

2. In 2006 Sarah tells that same group hope you succeed.

3. Troopergate - and the truth will be revealed on Friday.

4. Stealing Per Diem money.

5. Falsifying her tax returns.

I am not crazy about McCain or BHO. However, since McCain chose woman-hater Palin for his VP, there is no way I would even consider voting for McCain. It has to be a third party, or else BHO with the certainty that he will leave employer health care alone, and that those earning over $250,000 will be taxed more than they already are being taxed. With Bush deregulation and policy, too much wealth has been unequally distributed to too few Americans. This has always been a recipe for nations to crumble throughout history.

it would be dangerous for the GOP to reschedule another VP, the more live air time Palin gets the more time people will have to realize that she couldn't answer a major question about the issues if her career depended on it