Palin-McCain: Van Susteren and Leno: The Swamp
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Chicago Tribune
Posted November 7, 2008 5:00 PM
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by Mark Silva and updated

Sarah Palin, calling the campaign aides spreading rumors about her are "a bunch of jerks,'' told CNN today that it's "not true'' that she didnt know that Africa is a continent.

Palin will get a chance to talk about African geography and anything else that Greta Van Susteren has on her mind when FOX News Channel offers the first "extensive post-election sitdown'' with the governor of Alaska and GOP vice presidential nominee on Monday night.

And Sen. John McCain, the losing Republican presidential nominee, is wasting no time in returning to late-night TV: McCain is slated for the The Tonight Show with Jay Leno on Tuesday night, Veterans' Day.

He'll appear along with musical guests, the Kaiser Chiefs.

FOX's Van Susteren plans to tape her interview with Palin in Wasilla, Alaska, and present Monday night's show at 10 pm EST live from that location. "The whole hour will be devoted to Palin who will speak with Van Susteren about accusations by McCain staffers of dissent within the campaign, the outcome of the election, and her future role in the Republican Party amongst other topics,'' FOX says.

That certainly will include the question of whether Africa is a continent or a country, which, according to FOX's Carl Cameron, Palin didn't know - this was among the accusations coming out of the post-election divided McCain-Palin camp.

But this isn't fair: Palin has time to study the question.-- for which, as she told CNN today,she already knows the answer.

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Forget if Africa is a content or a country. How about her thoughts on the IMF, the G7 or NAFTA.

How about the budget and the national debt and how to get at the deficit in 4 years like she had promised?

How do you get at a $800 billion annual problem by getting rid of $30 billion in ear-marks or not touching Defense spending, social security, or Medicare.

Lets see if Gretta has the guts to ask real questions, I doubt it.


Will they ask about the 57-state United States that Barack Obama talked about?

Will they ask about FDR's televised "fireside chats", which Joe Biden spoke about?

Will they ask about the Johnson-Goldwater election of 44 A.D., which Swamp regular Frank James wrote about?

Or will they ask about the Republican party, which Mark Silva knows nothing about?


Palin has time to study the question... and Greta Van Susteren to edit the answers.

Not fair indeed.


geek -- I'm sure the secret answers on how to balance the budget in 4 years will never be revealed. Just like John McCain's statement that "he knows how to get Bin Laden." Now that he lost the election, the country will never gain that knowledge.


Geek. Nice to hear the venom about Palin. The only person I can think of that was more unqualified to assume duties as President got elected to the job. It's always nice hearing great promises before an election that solve the troubles we face. Now it's time to keep them. Stand by for disappointment.


I'm convinced that many, perhaps most, of the Palin supporters who are so annoyed that she's being mocked for not knowing that South Africa isn't simply a region of a nation called Africa were just as in the dark as she was. And they resent the implication that such knowledge might actually be considered important.

The comparison to the 57 states flub is silly; there's a huge difference between misspeaking and not knowing. Ignorance is not a sign of stupidity, but it can be a sign of shallow values and intellectual laziness. I feel no "ee-lee-tist" contempt for the Palinites who share her geographical ineptitude, but they should expect more from their leaders.

And, simply as a pragmatic consideration, don't you think the Governor of Alaska, after almost two years in office, really ought to know who the Prime Minister of Canada is?


I'm going to donate early and often to the nominate Palin in 2012 campaign fund.


Nothing would make me happier than to have someone (Palin) who is dumber than a bag of rocks carrying the GOPer banner in 2012 again.
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Will they ask about the Johnson-Goldwater election of 44 A.D., which Swamp regular Frank James wrote about?
Or will they ask about the Republican party, which Mark Silva knows nothing about?

Posted by: Change in 2012 | November 7, 2008 5:51 PM


HAHAHA!

You know things are bad for the Wingers when schmucks like RNC Bruce (see above) won't even sign their posts anymore.


Hey Brucie, I've been telling you nuts for two years now that you were going to be turning into 4th party gadflies if you didn't fix your party and now you're there. Congratulations!


My advice to you guys is to start drinking...heavily.


While I think the post-election Palin attacks are petty and a little silly, she pretty much set herself up for all of it. If she had "nothing to do with" buying the clothes, why did she go along with such fancy suits but balk at debate and interview prep?? She often ignored the McCain talkingpoints but didn't have the backbone to say--hey these expensive clothes are a bit excessive? Seems like she might have thought the clothes were a VP perk she wouldn't have to pay for and might as well take advantage of without worrying about consequences. (And spending $20,000 on Todd Palin alone??? No excuse for that.) If a reporter had not investigated and published these details from the FEC expenditure reports, where would those clothes be now?? For someone who has no trouble pushing Lee Atwater style campaign attacks, it's a bit hypocritical for her to be crying "mean and cruel" at this point over unkind remarks. It's ok to call her opponent a friend of terrorists but not to call her a diva or point out some of her less than sterling intellectual qualifications??? But, of course, she's the perfect media package so the far right and the tv pundits will never let her go quietly back to AK. We are probably stuck with her for some time. On the plus side, Joe the Plumber will probably soon disappear from the limelight (I hope).


I gues I'll miss these interviews. The little I'd seen of Greta is she is all fluff and no substance. She should have stayed an attorney. Leno I gave up watching years ago...he's just not funny anymore.


Pity the McCain people who are spreading these stories don't have the guts to identify themselves.


Haven't we had enough of this woman? She didn't, all of a sudden, get any smarter. Let her go back to Alaska and resume her duties as their governor. I'm sorry Alaska, but you did, after all, elect her.


Is asking what NEWSPAPERS you read asking too much??? Since she couldn't name EVEN ONE, she must not read ANY!!!!


It is ironic that Palin would label the revelations about her as "cruel" when she tried to assassinate Obama's character and incited hatred. There is a saying in Spanish that the fox never sees her own tail.


From the post-election Rasmussen Poll, here's what Swamp journalist Mark Silva might learn if he ever talked to Republicans:

"Sixty-nine percent (69%) of Republican voters say Alaska Governor Sarah Palin helped John McCain’s bid for the presidency, even as news reports surface that some McCain staffers think she was a liability.

Only 20% of GOP voters say Palin hurt the party’s ticket, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Six percent (6%) say she had no impact, and five percent (5%) are undecided.

Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only eight percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three percent (3%) Very Unfavorable.

When asked to choose among some of the GOP’s top names for their choice for the party’s 2012 presidential nominee, 64% say Palin. The next closest contenders are two former governors and unsuccessful challengers for the presidential nomination this year -- Mike Huckabee of Arkansas with 12% support and Mitt Romney of Massachusetts with 11%.

Three other sitting governors – Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Charlie Crist of Florida and Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota – all pull low single-digit support.

These findings echo a survey earlier this week which found that Republicans were happier with their vice presidential candidate than with their presidential nominee. Seventy-one percent (71%) said McCain made the right choice by picking Palin as his running mate, while only 65% said the party picked the right nominee for president."

The above Swamp article illustrates the danger to journalism when newspapers don't hire writers with diverse points of view.


democrats, this is your time, your Moment, the moment that you have totally brought about. Are u gonna waste it on a continuing beat-down of Sarah Palin, or are you gonna just barrel right out there and "change" the World? I know that it will be the latter.


There were more than a few things that the great, now President-Elect, 57 states, Obama did not have to answer for.
democrats cutting taxes ~ those 3 words should never be in the same sentence.
National Security ~ by sheer charm and charisma.
Energy Independence ~ Drilling takes too long but new commercial forms can be developed and brought on-line in no time at all. Lots of windmills.
Health Care for all ~ doctors and nurses, load up on the Starbucks swill, and sleep like horses.


democrats, you got a lot to do. Need to get busy, not spend so much time now, worrying about Sarah Palin in 2012. The msm will be thinking up some more Republican Geography questions and stay on that detail for you.


The interview isn't with our President Elect, It's a softball, save-face interview by Republican Palin supporters, (Democrat haters), at Fox News. Many of my Republican friends have stated that they are glad Obama won, and want him to do a good job for our country. The Lord knows we need it! Other more partisan folk want him, (and our country), to fail. Support our President and our country! Put your pettiness and ideology aside!


While you're heaping criticism on Sarah Palin for the clothing expenses, do you want to send any your hero's way for the nearly $700,000 he spent on his self-adoring turn in Berlin over the summer? His campaign expenses list costs for that self-aggrandizing stunt in the high $600,000s. For just one afternoon. Costs a lot to feed all those Germans, and entertain them, and set up the big stage that's not nearly big enough for the One's ego.

But somehow that expensiture is just peachy-keen with the One's supporters, but a fraction of that to outfit a woman on the campaign trail is not.

By the way, do I think too much what spent? Yes -- but I don't think it was Palin's fault, but the campaign's. And another by the way -- I did not vote for McCain. (Didn't vote for the One, either. Did a write-in.


Even if a Governor wasn't up to snuff on the G7 or Nafta, I'd take him or her in a heartbeat over an idiot who thought the way to handle the now relatively stable situation in iraq was to divide it into three states--one for the Kurds, a second for the Shiites, and a third for the Sunnis.


Just Brilliant! Leave the Kurds to resolve their tensions with Turkey by themselves; give Iran a greater opportunity to cause problems in
Iraq by supporting the Shiite state which in turn might give Sunni Iraqi's the impetus to turn to al Queda for help in any divisions with
the Shiites or Kurds.


THIS was Joe Biden's master plan
for resolving the problems of post-invasion Iraq.


That suggestion alone indicates Palin has apparently forgotten more about foreign policy than Biden ever learned.


Why this did not scare the By Jesus out of Obama in his selection of a V.P. running mate is a mystery--unless, of course, he thought the idea not all that ludicrous, which he did.


Iraqi leaders were less flattering of the Biden/Obama solution calling it,

“a threat to Iraq sovereignty and unity . . . based on an incorrect reading and unrealistic estimations of the history, present and future of Iraq.”


This is going to be one hell of a ride.


For what it's worth, McCain won the nomination with less than 30% of
republicans in his corner. That's pretty much why Obama cashed in on conservative defectors--not because Palin torpedoed the ticket.


A poll done two days ago by Rasmussen indicated Palin is seen very favorably by 90% of republicans and thought by 60% to have helped the ticket.


Democrats didn't like her. What a surprise. Independents were split.


Obama was the right man at the right time for a party, 30% of whose members, didn't even know who Harry Reid was.


He rode a perfect wave of questionable campaign tactics (suspending address verification for
campaign contributions) and the media looked the other way.


There will never be a better setup for a democratic candidate--the mainstream media in his pocket, an almost unprecedented economic crisis, and an insanely unpopular president--and yet he won by six points.


Who would have thought?


"Change in 2012": Thank you for drawing commenters' attention to the fact that all the candidates fall short at times. It just so happens that the media has the most fun with the GOP and doesn't call the democratic candidates on their flubs. Perhaps, it is not even the media's fault or the result of too much focus on the GOP. Maybe, the consumers of US media like to hold women candidates under a closer microscope than men.


No one is denying that she is not interesting. She can be a great cheerleader, beauty queen contestant guest on a talk show or a talk show host herself. But I'll pass on her qualifications for my VP, and I would dreadt he thought of the lost twin of Ann Coulter occupying the post of presidency


A debate on world affairs between Sarah Palin and Miss Teen South Carolina would be very entertaining.


When asked to choose among some of the GOP’s top names for their choice for the party’s 2012 presidential nominee, 64% say Palin.
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Xmas has come early. Please say this is so. As a lifelong Democrat. I will do anything neccessary to see Sarah nominated in 2012. I will even change my voter registration to Republican so that I can vote for her in the primary.


Is Palin really so dumb as to not realize she's become a pure entertainment factor? It's no longer scary since she's now DONE as a politician after being exposed for being as dumb as a box of rocks. So, now it's just an entertainment thing letting her make a fool of herself. She's in so far over her empty head.


Amongst other things, I'm glad we don't have someone else in the White House who can't pronounce the word "nuclear".
Couldn't the White House afford a speech coach for Bush? And no, it isn't petty, you're talking about someone who is going to represent your country. Do you really want someone who comes across as a hick?


Yes, McCain did give a gracious speech, and frankly, he needed to prior to showing his face again in the US Senate. Though not the most noble of men, Americans expected a lot more during the campaign from a man who has served in the military and who was a POW. None of that sense of honor or civility was expressed by him during most of the campaign. He spent too much time attacking his opponent, Senator Obama, instead of addressing the very serious issues that face this country. If a candidate can't address these issues during a historic campaign, there was no way in hell that Americans were going to elect him to the most powerful political office in the world......No man is above treating another with decency and respect.


"Just Brilliant! Leave the Kurds to resolve their tensions with Turkey by themselves; give Iran a greater opportunity to cause problems in
Iraq by supporting the Shiite state which in turn might give Sunni Iraqi's the impetus to turn to al Queda for help in any divisions with
the Shiites or Kurds.


THIS was Joe Biden's master plan
for resolving the problems of post-invasion Iraq."

But you forgot to tell us your candidates BRILLIANT mideast plan - oh yeah -
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
WHile Sarah shopped.


Looking forward to 4 years of Joe Biden shooting his mouth off, it will be great entertainment. Rahm will have a time of it keeping their VP in the background, everyone know how Joe loves to talk & talk & talk.


BC: Don't worry about being an elitist ... you ended your last sentence on a preposition.


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