by William Neikirk
They don't know each other, but Kay Flanery and Mary Ann Bell share something in common. They both saw their savings plunge during the stock market meltdown. Now, they both say they will have to work longer before retiring.
Flanery, of St. Louis, a 54-year accountant and single mother, saw her 401K savings account sink by about 30 percent percent or asmuch as $75,000 during the meltdown. Bell, 61, a high school teacher in Arlington, Va., said she lost roughly 20percent in her savings. In the crash.
Flanery had looked forward to lessening her work load and traveling before retiring in five years or so. "Now I will have to wait until the market recovers," she said. Bell said she likely will delay retirement for at least a year as will many of her colleagues.
They are like many older people who watched in horror as the carnage on Wall Street shrank their nest-eggs. Even before the recent crisis, one in five older Americans had been putting off retirement. Now that figure is undoubtedly higher, say experts.
(See the story surviving an economic crisis in Sunday's Tribune and an expanded account here in the Swamp:)
That raises another question: In a bad economy, will there be enough jobs for them?
But the stock-market crash also has exposed an even greater problem: The Baby Boom population is saving far too little for retirement, putting greater pressure on a Social Security system that has its own funding troubles. There is increasing talk of enhancing Social Security benefits even as insolvency is predicted for 2041.
The Urban Institute estimated the median savings (meaning half are below and half above) of Americans 50 and older is slightly under $90,000, a figure that financial analysts say is a pittance considering that many people could spend 20 years or more in retirement.
Ideally, said Jane White, a financial adviser and president of Retirement Solutions LLC in Madison, N.J., people should have the equivalent of 10 years' salary as savings when they retire. She favors more generous corporate contributions to workers' plans, admittedly a tough sale on Capitol Hill.
"There isn't any government bailout for those who can't afford to retire," White said.
Retirement security is expected to be a hot topic no matter who is elected president. A favorite idea in Congress is to allow companies to enroll workers in 401K plans automatically. But others believe a more comprehensive approach to the private savings problem is needed, possibly including overhaul of 401K plans.
Sen. John McCain said recently he would permit Americans 70 and a half years old to escape taking mandatory distributions--and paying taxes on--their 401K savings. He also said he would negotiate a deal to save Social Security from insolvency. He favors establishing private, voluntary savings accounts that would be in addition to Social Security.
Sen. Barack Obama would require Americans earning more than $250,000 to pay more to bolster Social Security. Obama would also make it harder for bankrupt companies to shed their pension obligations.
To some, the 401K system is essentially broken and should be redone. The Pension
Rights Center, an advocacy group in the nation's capital, is looking at several new
models for boosting savings.
For example, said Karen Friedman, the center's policy director, one such plan would call for contributions both from employers and employers as well tax credits from the government. Also, she said, in echoing other countries, the risks could be pooled among all a firm's employees.
"We need to get more people to have additional savings," said David Certner, legislative policy director of AARP. "We are going to be looking to expand the kinds of simple savings and pension arrangements."
And Social Security, which faces depleted resources as the Baby Boom retires, also may come in for some major changes.
"There's a lot of talk about the next president putting Social Security pretty high up on the list of priorities, simply because it's doable," said Robert Reischauer, president of the Urban Institute and a former congressional budget director.
Almost every analyst agrees that the private-accounts idea proposed by President Bush is dead. But Reischauer said it could re-emerge in a different form as a way to provide more savings for the elderly.
Accounts would have to be highly restricted, safe investments that would be largely
immune from Wall Street's roller-coaster, he said.
David John, an analyst at the Heritage Foundation, said some form of a supplementary or investment account in the Social Security system is likely, despite the failure of Bush's plan.
Among some Washington analysts, support is growing for establishing a minimum Social Security benefit to help low-income people, even as other measures are discussed to curb benefits to rescue it from insolvency, said Christian Weller, analyst for the
Center for American Progress.
Though Social Security has saved millions of Americans from poverty, it is no bonanza. Just ask Phylicia Bos, a 76-year-old retired nurse who lives in subsidized housing in Champaign, Ill.
Suffering from macular degeneration, Bos said she depends on transportation from her sister. "I pay my tithe to the church, I shop where I can find good bargains, and every time I go to lunch, I always have something left," she said. "And I cook really good."
Bos had $100,000 in market savings that she tried not to touch, but the recent plummeting of stock prices reduced that by a third. She hopes the remainder will be adequate for the future, but added that if she had to move into an assisted-living place, her savings "could go away in a couple of years."
Still, she has time to do volunteer work and sits on an advisory council for the East Central Illinois Area Agency on Aging in Bloomington, where executive director Michael O'Donnell praises her for being "very astute" in living on a limited income.
Optimism is hard to find among those nearing retirement. By contrast, those in their 30s and 40s are more optimistic.
Irina Clements, a 46-year-old systems analyst for a defense contractor in Northern Virginia, said her individual retirement account shrink by 20 percent. "I have another
24 years before I retire," she said. "There's plenty of time to recoup."
But Phil Sparks, a 63-year-old communications consultant in the nation's capital, said the 30 percent drop in his 401K means he will have to put off his retirement.
"I hoped to retire when I was 67, but it's very clear that I am going to have to work two more years," he said."I just think it's going to be years, not months, before the stock
market gets back to where it was."
Some older people who had felt relatively comfortable before the market's steep drop now are cutting back. Harley Bennet, a 70-year-old former cost analyst who owns a small farm in Marshall, Ill., said all was well until the value of his and his wife's mutual finds
dropped by 50 percent.
Yet, both have pensions and Social Security and feel that will help them ride out the storm. They now consolidate chores when they take trips. They use the wood stove to supplement propane. They don't eat out as much. His wife freezes vegetables from the garden. They have a pond stocked with fish--and use it for food.
"This is not the time to sell," Benet says of the market. "We are going to ride this thing out."
Harlon McMillian, who owns Allied Office Interiors Inc., a mid-size firm in Bay City,
Mich., said he lost about $180,000 in the market's plunge but isn't hurting financially and plans to sell the company soon. He put an often-heard spin on the savings crisis in
the U.S.
He said he became successful after rising from poverty and he and his wife were "very frugal." But he said today's generation, because of rising prosperity, feels entitled to a middle class standard of living. And their savings reflect that. Over time, as harder times take hold, McMillian said, this generation will exercise more thrift.
Linda Hathaway, a retired 69-year-old who teaches investing in the Washington,
D.C. area, echoed McMillian's remarks, saying too many people today "don't think. They don't plan. They don't think ahead. My generation had parents who knew what is was like."
In Bloomington, Ill., O'Donnell agreed the Baby Boom population has saved less than their parents, adding that "we anticipate social service services will see more younger adults coming to us for assistance. But I am also skeptical of placing blame on generations."
Indeed, studies in recent years have shown a bigger income gap between the rich and the poor, making it harder for workers to save adequately for the future.
Accountant Kay Flanery said she learned at an early age the compounding of returns that comes with steady investments--and that more Americans need to learn that lesson despite the recent decline in stocks.
"It's good to see your money grow," she said. Most people believe that will happen again, but it will be a long slog back.
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Comments
It is so incredible to me to hear all the cries from the right that Obama is a socialist and wants to redistribute the wealth. The right has spent the last 8 years redistributing the wealth in an upwards direction, and not much has trickled back down. It is time for a change, throw the bums out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyfIoxTDD6Q
Posted by: bilco5 | November 1, 2008 3:02 PM
And the returns of the stock market beat the return of Soc Sec for any given 40 year period. Case Closed.
The market has taken a dive since Reid and Pelosi entered Congress, but no on ecomplained when their were double-digit annual returns for most of the previous 25 years. And during those 25 years, the dems only had control of both the executive and legislative branches for two of those years.
Most of these people wouldn't be in this boat if they would have beel allowed to contribute their 12.4% FICA contributions into their own 401Ks instead of feeding the gov't trough.
The question I have to ask some of these 70+ year old seniors is why they were so heavily wieghted in the stock market at their age? When they get older, they should concentrate less on growth and more on a stabile return - such as bonds.
Posted by: Terry | November 1, 2008 4:30 PM
Good grief, your 401k will come back, just don't panic. People are acting like it is the end of the world, when there will be a come back and everything will recover. When you panic it just makes it a longer process to get the economy back to where it should be. Just elect the right man for the job (McCain) and you can retire when you had hoped. I am 69 and I know that in a short time my 401k will be fluid again.
Posted by: Yes we will | November 1, 2008 4:35 PM
Here is another thing that should scare you about a democratic Congress and President working together. This has always been discussed in front of the ways and means committee.
http://www.investmentnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081012/REG/310139971
This would be your REPO (REid-Peloi-Obama) administration at work.
Posted by: Terry | November 1, 2008 4:37 PM
Yeah, Terry. Tough to keep up with inflation when bonds are returning less than 1%. I can't believe you're still trying to defend the Republican brand of social Darwinism. That's O.K., you'll be irrelevant in about three more days.
Posted by: dt | November 1, 2008 5:34 PM
dt,
Which bonds are you referring to that make 1%. You need an investment advisor. Go ahead, put your life in the hands of the fedeal gov't - have fun.
Posted by: Terry | November 1, 2008 9:33 PM
A couple of points: 1. Only an idiot nearing retirement has the majority of their savings in the stock market. Spend five minutes watching any biz program and they will tell you that diversification is a smart play at all times, with the relative contribution from “growth” and “income” components changing over time. The usual initial "trip" point is 10 years before retirement, with a second coming at the 5 year point. And contrary to what “dt” would have you believe, your money does not have to be in bonds giving only 1% returns…there are other options. 2. As noted by others...the market will be back and this will be a bad dream that hopefully everyone learns from. Unless Obama wins and implements his tax increases and huge spending plans...then we spiral into a new depression and start eating dirt. Except for those of us who have cornered the market on dirt and will be selling it to you idiots at ridiculous rates. 3. Regarding the alleged Republican redistribution of wealth we keep hearing about....wrong! It is not redistribution when you let someone keep more of their money by lowering their taxes. Why? Because they “earned” it. It was their money to start with and not taking as much is not the same as giving it to them. It's only socialism (sort of) when money is redistributed from those who generated/earned it and to those who did not earn it. Kind of like Obama’s new tax plan of giving 95% of all working families tax cuts even though close to 40% of those families do not pay any taxes. I can tell you with a reasonable degree of certainty that I will not be happy if my taxes go up and someone else gets the benefit of my hard work and sacrifice. Nope…not going to like that one little bit.
Posted by: Abby | November 2, 2008 12:17 AM
In this article you mention the difficulty people suffering from macular degeneration can have on one's independence.
Macular degeneration has been proven by many peer review research studies to be a nutritionally responsive disease. Basic dietary changes can go a long way toward helping people preserve vision.
For more information on diet and vision health, go to www.naturaleyecare.com
Posted by: Michael Edson, MS, L.Ac. | November 2, 2008 9:15 AM