Contraceptives in the stimulus package?

Boehner said:

You know, I'm concerned about the size of the package. And I'm concerned about some of the spending that's in there, how you can spend hundreds of millions of dollars on contraceptives. How does that stimulate the economy?

Who said something about a clown and gone in 2 months?

Hey Frank,
Was Boehner crying while he was speaking today? He's good at that:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGoYOSomKLw
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It seems Repuglicans still haven't learned that supply-side economics have led to one of the greatest economic crashes in recent history. Their little trickle-down theory did not work--the proof is right in the pudding in front of their fat, florid faces--and yet, they insist on repeating the same old mistakes.

Not a big surprise, you can't show new ideas to Republican dinosaurs and expect them to understand them.

Contraceptives and the size of the package have always been concerns of mine.

I don't care what's in the stimulus package, there's no hiding the facts: Republican policies caused this mess, and Democratic policies cleaned up the last Republican mess in 1993. With their track record, Republicans are the last people we should listen to about the economy.

I can understand why there is a concern on contraceptives,but we do need to see the young girls and women who have babies everyday and don't want them. I feel that the cut down on unwanted babies,then some having them with no means to take care of them dose put a strain on states with little funds to take care of them.I have a 14 year old daughter whom I love dear and my husband being disabled and me with cancer is hard to say no to her needs,so imagine kids who are brought into this world and put into the system or even worse dumped out like trash.I think there should be means of more protection for both boys and girls even men and women.Imagine how many kids are in the system and who pays we do.

Ohh, boo hooo. I can just see it now, John Boehner finger cots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_cot

It must suck not meeting expectations after all those years. lol

Congress: don't write any rubber checks

Mr. Boner didn't seem concerned when $billions in big bricks of cash disappeared into the Iraq furnace.
I wonder if any of that cool green bought a birth control pill?

IMO, using contraception is the adult, smart thing to do. It avoids unwanted pregnancy in high schoolers and adults. The Palin's need to consider this option.

Flash to the Republicans here: People sometimes have sex for pleasure, not to have a baby.

Mr. Boner is proof positive that a Republican's greatest fear is that, somewhere someone is having a good time.

Can someone tell us why this is even in the package? Is this what they mean by a protectionist economy?

That money isn't for condoms is it? It's short for condominiums.

I thought the pugs wanted to see projects in the bill where there were long term dividends and not a quick shot of sugar to the economy. I guess it's all double talk from boner again. I guess we can also hand billion dollar bonuses to greedy wall street but we can't invest in our childrens future, which does have gauranteed results.

WOW, its been awhile since I visited and throwing aside the article, some of the folks commenting here really, really need to re-think their grasp on history and spit the Kool-aid out.

Patricia, you are a prime example of everything that is wrong with America. Your statement leaves out any personal responsibility, morality lessons in the home and G-D forbid the little varmints keep their peckers in their pants and the little Paris Hilton wannabes keep their legs closed.

My G-D whats wrong with you?

How does expanding government-paid medical care stimulate the economy?

Reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this time of economic crisis is a common sense move. What is it that Republicans have against common sense?? As the mother of a 20-year-old daughter, I've been despairing about the fact that she has fewer contraceptive options now than I had back in the 1980s. Don't believe me? Try getting a diaphragm, cervical cap or contraceptive sponge nowadays: You'd have to travel to Canada. Here in the U.S. there's condoms, spermacides, and a bunch of heavily advertised variations on the birth control pill, including injections, rings, and subcutaneous rods. Oh, and IUDs, if you want to risk those again after all those lawsuits back in the last century. Hopefully the Medicaid changes will help bring back more choices, and we will see the teenage/ unmarried birth rate drop off again.

I'm interested in his thoughts about the Viagra the CIA is giving to the War Lords over in Afghanistan for "information"...does he condone that? I think that is a bigger waste of tax dollars than trying to prevent an unwanted pregnancy.

When there is a power failure in the Northeast, as in Nov. 65 or any of the subsequent ones, the birth rate 9 mos. later goes way up.

After Roe v. Wade, the crime rate went down.

When access to high jump off places like walkways on bridges is limited, suicides decrease.

So, yeah, lowering the birth rate in times of adversity might make the subsistence payments--safety net--stretch further.

I agree with Boehner. We should have more teen and unwanted pregnancies to show off conservative values like Palin’s daughter, and more people get on welfare because of it, thus to stimulate our economy. What’s not to understand?

This is wrong on a couple of levels. First, it has nothing to do with creating jobs, so it has business in the stimulus package. Second, it's a politically sensitive issue, at a time when Obama is trying to gain bipartisan support for this package. Third, this is not a temporary stimulus. It's an expansion of entitlement spending that will be perpetual. How will this be funded when the stimulus money is gone in a couple years? Entitlement spending (SS, Medicare, etc.) is already spiraling out of control and underfunded, and Dems want to add the entitlement/Medicaid benefit of "family planning" to people who are not even indigent? You can't make this stuff up.

HH,
Well, it's a political issue to the conservatives. To others it's common sense to practice birth control.
'Someone, somewhere is having a good time.'

The Republicans need something to cry about. Why not contraceptives. Geez, get to the important issues you damn neocons and stop your whining.

CM, I think the issue of "family planning" goes a little beyond birth control into something called abortion. Regardless of my position or yours on abortion, I think we can agree that it is a divisive political issue that has no place in an economic stimulus bill, no? I believe it was Obama who said he wants to strip away the fluff/pet projects and focus the stimulus bill on things that will actually create jobs and stimulate the economy. I'll bet Obama cringed when Congressional Dems wanted to stick this in there. It's a stupid fight to pick at a bad time.

HH,
The country just elected the Dems. and Obama by a large popular margin, and an electoral landslide. He has a much larger 'mandate' than GWB ever had.
I support the right of a woman to have an abortion, so why keep it out of the emerging law?
We live in the moden age, the 21st century, and the Dems and Obama need to move us there post haste.
JMO, HH.

And also in the news, though not televised nor photographed for public consumption is the return to use of U.S. money to support abortion overseas. Why all of the hoopla in front of the cameras for some bills and the veil of secrecy late on a Friday afternoon for a more contentious position? He wants to come across as bipartisan, but only for the issues that play well in front of the camera.

I want him to do well, but his "transparency" seems to only be when it suits his best interests. Otherwise, this thread has provided some titillating discussions, given the initial subject matter.

So Boehner reads the legislation, trolling for hot-button key words and all he can find is "contraceptives" - and you know there MUST be more to it, but he's not communicating facts or reality, he's pushing his own agenda. I am so sick of politics like this, we HAVE to resolve many issues NOW. It's time to move forward, progress already, we're 30 years behind AT LEAST!

C. Morris wrote:

HH,
The country just elected the Dems. and Obama by a large popular margin, and an electoral landslide. He has a much larger 'mandate' than GWB ever had.
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I agree. BO certainly has momentum and the trust of most Americans. So maybe we should listen to him when he says he wants to keep out pet projects, not pick unnecessary fights with the GOP, and focus the stimulus on creating jobs.
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I support the right of a woman to have an abortion, so why keep it out of the emerging law?
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Your personal opinions on abortion are what they are. I would keep it out because it has nothing to do with stimulating the economy or creating jobs.
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We live in the moden age, the 21st century, and the Dems and Obama need to move us there post haste.
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OK. Not sure how including this provision in a financial stimulus package helps toward that end, but your opinion is what it is.

think the GOP is trying to get to the important issues - why add contraceptives into this whole mess? Can't we have legislation without hidden agendas for once??

The good thing if this goes through is that the liberals will all contracept and abort their way into non-existence and then some people who like children can run the country again.

Regardless of one's view on abortion or the problems with teen pregnancy a stimulus bill is no place to putsuch provisions. This is the main problem with all the morons in Congress, both left and right. They can't help themselves.

Anyone that thinks this is a good should stfu when all your paychecks are robbed to pay for pork barrel spending. Get a clue. If we are going to fix government we have to hold our elected officials accountable for all pork (excuse the pun). Those of you that think this is a republican only problem clearly have you heads up where the sun doesn't shine.

HH,
Thanks for a civil exchange.

HH? A large popular margin?

Since when has 52% to 48% been a "large popular margin"?

Oddly, I think prop 8 was voted down with 58% voting against it. Liberals called that "unconclusive".

So, 52% is a "large margin" and 58% is "inconclusive".

Is this an example of liberal math?

On alot of comments there is reference of, "Republican policies caused this mess" which could not be farther from the truth. The underlying cause of the economic collapse can be attributed to relaxing the lending criteria of the banks as pushed by the liberals. The intent is admirable for everyone to own a home or business but in reality not everyone is capable of maintaining a business or home. Those individuals that did not stand up to the old lending criteria should have rented instead of being handed a huge mortgage that they walked away from. When you disrupt market forces with easy lending practices, you can now see the results. Blaming the Republicans for this mess is just a sound bite from the Democratic Presidential Race. Do your homework ( start with Fannie May /Freddie Mac congressional hearings stonewalling review ).

You people need to brush up on your reading comp skills. The stimulus package did include millions for contraceptives but was removed once it was found out to be population control. Last time I checked we are not a communist country.

If you want to pay for this program, feel free to do so, but don't ask me to subsidize the irresponsibility of others.