Cheney's attack warning: 'Then I worry': The Swamp
The Swamp
Chicago Tribune
Posted February 4, 2009 6:00 PM

The Swamp

by Mark Silva

What happened to the statute of hesitations about commenting too critically on one's successors in the White House?

Comments such as former Vice President Dick Cheney's remarks that the Obama White House may be "more concerned about - let me think carefully how I describe this - more concerned with reading the rights to an Al Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do everything they can to kill Americans....

"Then I worry,'' Cheney said this week, just two weeks out of office. These were Cheney's comments in an interview reported today by Politico.com, which interviewed the former vice president on Tuesday.

With the Obama administration promising to close the terrorist-detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, within a year, and requiring all U.S. agencies to follow the Army Field manual in the interrogation of suspects, Cheney suggests that it is, indeed, the "enhanced interrogation techniques'' of the Bush administration and other tactics, such as the "Terrorist Surveillance Program'' (listening to phone conversations of Americans communicating with suspect people abroad) that have prevented another 9/11 or worse.

"I firmly believe, based on our own experience, that if it hadn't been what we did, with respect to Terrorist Surveillance program, or enhanced interrogation techniques for high-value detainees and the Patriot Act and so forth, that we would have been attacked again,'' Cheney said in the interview. "Those policies we put in place, in my opinion, were absolutely crucial to getting us through the last seven-plus years without another major casualty attack on the U.S.

"I think there is a challenge there for the Obama administration... to understand what we did and why we did it and how we did it, before they run off and start taking down programs that I think are essential to the security of the nation,'' he told Politico.

"What I'm concerned about is that, instead of sitting down and carefully evaluating policies in each of these areas, they are under a lot of pressure to implement policies described during the campaign - their campaign rhetoric - let that be the driving force behind what they do on Guantanamo, for example,'' Cheney said.

"The biggest threat hasn't changed... that you get a 9/11 type event where the terrorists are armed with something much more dangerous than an airline ticket and a box cutter. They're equipped with a nuclear weapon or a biological agent of some kind. That's the ultimate threat. It hasn't happened yet, obviously, But if I were to sort of categorize worries or concerns that you have when you deal in this area, the potential ability of an al Qaeda organization or an al Qaeda group to get their hands on that kind of weapon and deploy it in the middle of one of our own cities....

"It's the one that you have to spend a hell of a lot of time guarding against,'' he said. "I think there's a high probability of such an attempt. Whether or not they can pull it off depends in part upon us, whether or not we keep in places policies that have allowed us to defeat all further attempts since 9/11 to launch mass casualty attacks against the United States.''

"When we get people who are more concerned about - let me think carefully how I describe this - more concerned with reading the rights to an Al Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do everything they can to kill Americans, then I worry.

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Not to worry, Dick.

The new sheriff is well aware of the threats and plenty able to deal with them.

Now, go take all that money you've made off the war and play with it in a big vault, like Uncle Scrooge.


Quick! Someone put a GPS device on Darth so we'll know where to find him when his war crimes trial begins!


Dirty Dick seems to have forgotten already; His party just lost the last election by historically wide margins.

Go away sick old man. You are no longer needed.


Old Mr. Potter just can't let go.
Give it up, Mr. Potter. President Bailey is in charge now.


Nice work staying in contact, Dick. But you're still going to be fitted with the ankle bracelet.


Nice work staying in contact, Dick. But you're still going to be fitted with the ankle bracelet.


WOULD YOU INTERVIEW CHARLES MANSON ABOUT WORLD AFFAIRS?
Then why interview this guy? You're more respectful to him than you were to Blagojevich.


First we have Rush Limbaugh saying he wants Obama to fail, now we have Cheney wanting us to be hit by a terrorist attack in order to "justify" his torture regime.

What "patriots" these guys are.


Wanted. Housing for reformed former Gitmo detainees. All have promised not to kill Americans. Flo, Bill r Hussein, C Morris, Ornery and crew hopefully to step up and provide necessary nurturing to win hearts and minds of converted terrorists.


What a nasty evil dickhead.


Dic Cheney was the master mind behind 911...all he has to do is say the words and an attack will be carried out!


I suppose the 60 years between 1941 and 9/11/01 was just lucky? It seems a bit ironic that we toppled Saddam, a tyranical dictator that used killing and torture to maintain his hold on his country, only to adopt those same tactics to defend our country. No doubt Bush was too dim-witted to see the similarities, but do tell Mr. Cheney...what did you see when you looked into the abyss?


My most sincere wish is that the Daily Threat Assessment the President gets will give him the political courage to do everything and anything necessary to protect us. I lost a cousin on 9/11. Let's remember how united we were on 9/12.


My most sincere wish is that the Daily Threat Assessment the President gets will give him the political courage to do everything and anything necessary to protect us. I lost a cousin on 9/11. Let's remember how united we were on 9/12.


Cheney is more informed than any of you who are criticizing him on this subject, he knows things that most of you probably wouldn't want to know about potential terrorist threats...To say that he is giving this advice for his own political gain is silly and ignorant, because frankly he has nothing to gain from lying. It is his INFORMED opinion that these threats are real, and no one can argue that Bush policies did not make us safer. Anyone who does needs to jump off the super liberal bandwagon and hope the fall wakes you up.


Gitmo, and the other prisons that ignored the Geneva Convention, have motivated friends and relatives of the innocent and guilty prisoners, to support Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations. Chicken Hawks Cheney and Bush will have to share the blame for any terrorist actions.


Good points Mr. Cheney!
We are all nervous about Obama...half of his cabinet should be in jail for cheating on their tax returns. And the other half believes Al Gore is credible.

Paulo


Dick doesn't know dick. This is the guy who told Tim Russert that he knew exactly where the wmd's were located in Iraq. We know now that he just makes stuff up, to see if we'll buy it. Don't.

"I firmly believe...
"based on our own experience...
"that if it hadn't been what we did...
"that we would have been attacked again...

Of course he's going to say that!

However, we weren't attacked for EIGHT PLUS years after the first Al Qaeda attack on the World Trade Center in 1993.

If you keep your eye on the ball in the first place, you don't have to sell democracy down the drain to keep attacks from happening a second time.

"Those policies we put in place, in my opinion...

His opinion is absolutely worthless.
He FAILED America and now he wants a "do-over."

"were absolutely crucial to getting us through the last seven-plus years without another major casualty attack on the U.S."

Again, he should have talked to Clinton. President Clinton got us through EIGHT PLUS years without another major attack -- right up until 9/11, when Dick was on watch.

Bush/Cheney=
Miserable Failures


Yeah, with all those unicorns and rainbows out there, we don't have anything to worry about. Any anyone who points out anything different is EVIL!


Yeah, with all those unicorns and rainbows out there, we don't have anything to worry about. And anyone who points out anything different is EVIL!


So Dick is already ready to blame Obama should the US be hit by Al Qaeda. The fact that BinLaden was not killed or captured and Al Qaeda used Bush administration policies to recrute around the world, would of course have had nothing to do with our situation. And using Dick's own logic, who then was to blame for 9/11; eight months and ample written warnings after Bush took office?


So Dick is already ready to blame Obama should the US be hit by Al Qaeda. The fact that BinLaden was not killed or captured and Al Qaeda used Bush administration policies to recrute around the world, would of course have had nothing to do with our situation. And using Dick's own logic, who then was to blame for 9/11; eight months and ample written warnings after Bush took office?


The republicans certainly are chomping at the bit for failure.


No, Bill, we conservatives are not chomping at the bit for failure. We're just predicting it as the inevitable consequence of the Boy Wonder's staggering naivete.


I'll bet Cheney is just praying for failure just like Limbaugh is. So much for working to make the country better huh? Then again, this is the architect of the invasion of Iraq. You remember, the one with the non-existant WMDs. So when do we get a criminal trial for Bush and Cheney?

Probably never.


Dr. Strangelove is in an enviable position. If no attacks happen on domestic soil, then he'll claim credit. If they do happen, he'll point fingers. Hey, Dick - remember that the greatest terrorist act in the US happened on your watch, while you had information warning you that the threat was imminent.


Cheney, with his money located outside of the US and nefarious connections is not beyond staging an attack on the US. He should be in detention--where he will be after being tried as a war criminal.


Perhaps the animals in GITMO can stay where they will feel more comfortable under house arrest at liberal homes all across the country. They will have much in common with all you disgusting hateful pukes here, who go over the line bashing Cheny.


OK, the same guy who refused to believe airliners would be used in a terrorist attack. The same guy who knew definatively there were WMD's in Iraq. This guy does not have any credibility. The same guy who said about the economic crisis, "Nobody saw that coming", when the economists have been warning about this for years. This guy makes it up as he goes along.


During the Nixon administration we had an "Arab Oil Embargo". A 55mph speed limit was enforced on all of America's highways to "save gas". After the embargo ended the 55mph speed limit was kept in place to "save lives". Why didn't we reduce the speed limit to 25mph? It would have saved more lives. It's all just a matter of degree.


Who cares what this non-entity has to say. The days when his paranoid pronouncements would have the nation cowering in fear are over. His philosophy and the implementation of that perverse system of beliefs no longer holds sway. America has awoken from a eight year long haze of disinformation, paranoia and fear to see the world as it really is. A tough, yet survivable environment where the risk of living in a free society is recognized and accepted as being far superior to living in the facist state Cheney envisioned for us. He is no longer relevant


He's right. Let's just see what Barack does in response to an attack. Will he blame Americans? You bet. Will he blame Bush? You bet. Will he not mention how he weakened surveillance thus allowing the incident to occur? You bet.


No, Bill, we conservatives are not chomping at the bit for failure. We're just predicting it as the inevitable consequence of the Boy Wonder's staggering naivete.

Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspirator | February 5, 2009 8:51 AM
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Al-Qaeda also predicts America will be destroyed!!! You people are sick!


"What happened to the statute of hesitations about commenting too critically on one's successors in the White House?"

Think that went out the window when Clinton left office.


Sounds like Dick may have a false flag operation in the works. Perhaps his conversations and communications should be monitored under TSP and the Patriot Act. After all, if he has nothing to hide, he has nothing to worry about.


Vast....Is that anything like "Mission Accomplished"? Prediction is not really something you do well. I could give a larger list like "we'll be greeted as liberators", we know where the WMDs are" "There will be no door to door fighting" etc etc etc etc...


MARK SILVA: "What happened to the statue of hesitiations about commenting too critically on one's successors in the white house"? AL BORE-JIMMY CARTER-BILL"CIGAR" CLINTON-ETC-ETC


Vast right wing, Jake, and Paulo I feel for you that you live your life the way you do and have the thoughts that you do. All that fear must be staggering. I assume you live in a lily white suburb with a gun under the bed. The fact that the President of the Free world had to announce to the world that we will be following the Geneva convention is a very sad day. Thankfully we elected someone that will now follow it. What a concept.


Didn't Obama just say the same thing, that we still face serious threats. How many more innocent people needed to die before you see the threats? After the most sophisticated attack our country has ever seen, nothing has happened since to threaten our freedom and theres a reason for that. How many more innocent journalists need thier heads chopped, i'm sorry sliced off on camera before people stop crying about Gitmo. Stop taking your freedom for granted aholes!


How interesting that the man who did more to ENSURE generations of young people from the extremist side of the Islamic world will commit their lives (and deaths) to attacking and killing Americans.
I love how Cheney, Bush, et al all love to say how they "kept us safe from another attack on U.S. soil since 9/11." That's a really great acheivement, following the fact that they ALLOWED the worst attack in history to occur ON their watch.
There's no mystery as to why another attack has not occurred. For starters, the terrorists have already ACHEIVED their goal - they've made us live in fear (under the direction to do so by our former president and vice-president), and they've essentially bankrupted our country in the process.
But the second, and much more obvious reason - one that the media (pay attention Swamp writers) doesn't really acknowlege - is that they haven't NEEDED to come to U.S. soil to attack and kill Americans in large numbers. Bush/Cheney have made it easy on them by sending about 150,000 of our citizens right into their back yard for the past six years, and for years to come, so they can attack and kill Americans MUCH more easily.
Closing Guantanamo is the first step in repairing our image around the world, and it is the best recruiting tool the terrorists have, so the sooner we close it, the better.
The two biggest terrorist threats to the U.S. - Dick Cheney and George W. Bush - are now thankfully unemployed. But the misery, death, destruction, shame and ruin that they've heaped upon our country will sadly remain in place for the forseeable future. I can only pray that they'll be brought up on charges and jailed for all they did to destroy our country.


It's a Haliburton thing. This proves that Cheney still has stock in the company that got rich in Iraq. Now he's hoping for more violence so he can make more money.


It's a Haliburton thing. This proves that Cheney still has stock in the company that got rich in Iraq. Now he's hoping for more violence so he can make more money.


WHAT AN ARROGANT S.O.B.


Don't worry Mr Fear, there's another fear monger in town only the new one prefers to threaten fear directly to the people in the form of a stimulus bill that will directly increase the revenues of foreign manufacturing by taking out the buy in the U.S. provision, terrorists? No problem have been in Washington for the last 20 years time to pass the head games to the new guy he's well versed for keep the tradition going


While Bush was bad (but he was a stupid, arrogant man), Cheney and Rove were evil. They cared nothing about protecting America just wanted to profit off the war. It's easier to invade a country such as Iraq than to fix the economy. Bravo, BCR, Bravo. So you want Obama to fail, Limbaugh? Then that means you want a deep and painful recession. Why don't you tell that to the faces of Americans who lost their jobs, homes, and/or money in their 401Ks?


During the Cold War, Cheney probably saw a Communist behind every tree: better dead than red. Since 9/11, Cheney sees Al Queda behind every tree. Of course Cheney did nothing in the way of helping Bush go after bin Laden, but did encourage him to go into Iraq, where Al Queda did not exist previously. bin Laden was forgotten, Afghanistan was ignored. Iraq was destroyed. THe U.S. made more enemies and strained relationships with friends. Everyone, but Cheney's friends at Haliburton, lost.


What a creepy man.
Good riddance.


"Cheney is more informed than any of you who are criticizing him on this subject, he knows things that most of you probably wouldn't want to know about potential terrorist threats..."

Which of us does not want to know?

"To say that he is giving this advice for his own political gain is silly and ignorant, because frankly he has nothing to gain from lying."

Except to make himself look like he knew what he was doing.

"It is his INFORMED opinion that these threats are real, and no one can argue that Bush policies did not make us safer."

Policies and activities in Iraq that aggravated Muslim extremists, provided them with recruiting tools and introduced Al Quaeda to where they had not previously existed have made us safer?

"Anyone who does needs to jump off the super liberal bandwagon and hope the fall wakes you up."

Perhaps it is you who needs to take a clear look at what has been happening.


Oh, Jake. There's plenty of arguments to be made that Bush didn't make us any safer. Just because it hasn't happened again doesn't mean it's to Bush/Cheney's credit. I mean, it happened on their watch. Seriously, if there were credible threats the republicans would have used it for political purposes to win elections. "See, we stopped this! Vote for us!" He has plenty to gain for his party and his legacy as vice president to keep Americans scared and to blame a Democratic president should something go wrong. You're naive. And don't give me the "It's too classified" or "It's a threat to national security" to inform the public about any other attacks that were stopped. The reason there hasn't been any other serious actions against us is because there hasn't been any. You're done Cheney. Hope to see you in court.


All tyrants have rules by policy of fear. Their existence depends on having enemies at all times and they justify their own dictatorship with an excuse to protect the citizens.
Just look at how Saddam and Ahmadi Nezhad have blamed their so called ā€œenemiesā€ for suppressing internal opposition.


I'm sure Dick is right, I'm sure Obama is right, Al Qaeda thinks they are right and no one is wrong. Thing is, too many uneducated, brainwashed young men want to blow us up. Regardless of right or wrong, what we do, what we have done over the past fifty years has the tension up in the eyes of the terrorist who have no solutions or desire to make anything good happen.
My solutions are two parts. One, open up as many Wal-Marts as possible in the middle east, get them use to being able to buy posters of Hanna Montana and the Jonas Brothers and then have a Burger King serve up food that will slowly make them so fat an lazy that they don't want to blow up anything any more. Wait, maybe that was their master plan and it is working well here in the USA.


This guy is irrelevant. Go back to Wyoming.


I'm sure Dick is right, I'm sure Obama is right, Al Qaeda thinks they are right and no one is wrong. Thing is, too many uneducated, brainwashed young men want to blow us up. Regardless of right or wrong, what we do, what we have done over the past fifty years has the tension up in the eyes of the terrorist who have no solutions or desire to make anything good happen.
My solutions are two parts. One, open up as many Wal-Marts as possible in the middle east, get them use to being able to buy posters of Hanna Montana and the Jonas Brothers and then have a Burger King serve up food that will slowly make them so fat an lazy that they don't want to blow up anything any more. Wait, maybe that was their master plan and it is working well here in the USA.


See this stick ? It keeps away Unicorns. What, I don't see any Unicorns!! See, the stick works. Same principle as the Bust/Cheney terrorist initiatives.


why is the press even giving this evildoer any quarter? he's full of it.


"What happened to the statute of hesitations about commenting too critically on one's successors in the White House?"

Think that went out the window when Clinton left office.


Hmmm. the prisoners held at GITMO unfortunately haven't been charged. Therefore, POWs..Isn't that what McCain based his entire election on..Why is fair for us to hold POWs but not other countries? HELLO, charge them or you have to let them go.


Hmmm. the prisoners held at GITMO unfortunately haven't been charged. Therefore, POWs..Isn't that what McCain based his entire election on..Why is fair for us to hold POWs but not other countries? HELLO, charge them or you have to let them go.


Hmmm. the prisoners held at GITMO unfortunately haven't been charged. Therefore, POWs..Isn't that what McCain based his entire election on..Why is fair for us to hold POWs but not other countries? HELLO, charge them or you have to let them go.


Chickenhawk Cheney still playing the fear card. Where was Cheney after 9/11?? He ran off to a super secret undisclosed location for weeks. Did he ever visit ground zero?? Talk about an unpatriotic lying worthless coward...that would be smarmy Cheney.


Yeah, we worried too -- for 8 years. And now you're out, and we feel much better. Our country is safer without a paranoid like you in office, and your puppet, W.


It is amazing to me that Cheney still has his defenders. This guy actually shot someone in the face while he was in office. What would he have to do for you dough-heads to think critically of him for even a second?


Bush and Cheney were voted out for a reason. Cheney was one of the big reasons. He and his views are now completely irrelevent.


Bush and Cheney ploicies were voted out for a reason. Cheney was one of the big reasons. He and his views are now completely irrelevent.


Bush and Cheney policies were voted out for a reason. Cheney was one of the big reasons. He and his views are now completely irrelevent.


"Tyaht?" Is that a country? A person? Ah, it's "that." Does anybody at the Trib edit anything before it's posted online?


I wish the liberals could see through their hatred and heed the warnings. Their insistence on giving the Bush administration absolutely no credit for the lack of a terrorist attack the past 7 years causes them to reflexively reject these warnings as well.

May God help us.


Let's not waste our time and energy on "Dick". Maybe he should make the TV talk show circuit with Rod crying how he is misunderstood. Both are in denial.


All right, Dick Cheney. Please do me one favor: Wheel yourself (or have one of your Haliburton buddies do it) away to some place where you can count your blood money, and justshut the **** up.


That is, shut up UNTIL the war-crimes trials begin. Then you can talk all you want. Thank you.


What else would you expect Cheney to say? They're responsible for the increased terrorism threat, through their illegal wars. They're responsible for all the bailouts to their buddies in the financial industries too.

Cheney and Bush are war criminals. How is this any different than what Milosevic did?

You can be pro America and have a conscience, and not look at things through blinders.


Denise hit the nail on the head. Cheney is not the leader of the free world any longer and he needs to sit down and shut up. He's the cause of most of the chaos of that embarrassingly incompetent administration and no one wants to hear from him again. All that racket you hear is the sound of the good ol' boys club crashing into reality in Washington. Thank the stars.....no....thank BHO!!!


Garbage in, garbage out. Let's keep it that way.


Cheney's always made it abundantly clear that it's a government of men and not of law.


Cheney should be worried, but not about terror.

Instead of more of this unprecedented spouting off in the first days of a new administration, Dick Cheney should either find a larger rock to crawl beneath, or start working on his legal defense fund.


Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear. Fear.


Didn't Cheney and his like label those who criticized President Bush's anti-terrorist policies as unpatriotic? By that same logic isn't Cheney now unpatriotic for criticizing President Obama?


Hey Liberals - News Flash-
You Won!
You got your guy in the White House. Stop bashing Bush and Cheney!

I remember on 9/12/01, many of my liberal democrat neighbors were VERY happy that George Bush was our President and Dick Cheney was the VP, because they brought tough, experienced attitude and wouldn't fold like the former Tennessee Senator and the wimpy lawsuit crazy lawyer. I'm willing to give this enigma from Illinois a chance to see what he can do on a national platform, since I never saw anything he did here in Illinois!

I only hope to God, (yes God, not Allah) that nothing happens under his watch.


Cheney, isn't that the same guy who stood up there and swore how much we were all in danger because of the weapons of mass destruction possessed by Saddam Hussein?

I would not believe a word he says. If he told me it was daylight outside I would get a second opinion.

Cheney is also the guy who outed a working undercover CIA agent and then allowed his Chief of Staff to take the fall for it. This guy is evil and worthless garbage.


Hey Dick, you mean like the warnings you were breifed on before 911. Oh, those kinds of warnings. Yeah, way to go Dick!


I'm worried too. Because Bush Cheney spent 7 years looking like Keystone cops searching grandmas knitting bags while Bin Laden runs free, planning his next attack.


Obama is going to have a heart to heart talk with his brother Osama and the terrorists at Gitmo. Then all will be forgiven.


"Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough." - Franklin D. Roosevelt


Hey Dick, just worry about which way you are pointing YOUR rifle.


Shame on Dick Cheney perpetuating the "reason that anyone who doesn't agree with us is for the terrorists" manner of thinking! Maybe President Obama is concerned with sticking to those core American principles for which many Americans over the years have sacrificed even their very lives. Principles like freedom, presumption of innocence, not torturing suspects, the Bill of Rights...

Shame also on Dick Cheney with this ultimate C.Y.A. justification for the abuse of power by him and the Bush Administration! If anything at all ever happens in the future, it will be because President Obama chose NOT to continue with the despicable practices and policies of the Bush Administration? Please.

Cut through his flag waving worry and you find an old man who believes that torture, unbridled governmental intrusion into the privacy of its citizens, secret prisons, kidnapping, suspension of Habeas Corpus and other civil rights, executive branch secrecy not subject to any checks and balances, pre-emptive military action and the strong arm tactics of tyrannical despots are the only ways to protect the U.S. against enemy threats and attacks. Consider that if he is right, then Pogo indeed had the correct answer.


"What happened to the statute of hesitations about commenting too critically on one's successors in the White House?"

How soon you choose to forget! That went out the window with Clinton, Gore, and Carter.


Wanted. Housing for reformed former Gitmo detainees. All have promised not to kill Americans. Flo, Bill r Hussein, C Morris, Ornery and crew hopefully to step up and provide necessary nurturing to win hearts and minds of converted terrorists.
Posted by: ObamabotsACTIVATE | February 4, 2009 9:49 PM

If I was illegally detained and tortured for 7 years, you'd bet I'd be pretty mad when (if) I got out and, since my life was ruined anyway, I'd be coming straight for you. Unfortunately, we own these guys and they now serve as symbols for future generations of terrorists. Nicely done, blockheads.


Hey libs, why are you all over here beating up on an easy target like Cheney, yet totally absent to defend your boy BHO on the lobbyist thread? Can you say "duplicity"?

That's change we can believe in. Yep.


this piece of s*** has nothing to say to or about the new administration., gimme a break., the best piece of advice he could give is- don't be like the bush administration. i think the people spoke clearly in the last election., and what they said to dick cheney and george bush was good riddance. maybe dick could tell us all how you manage to disseminate classified info., outing a cia operative and not see jail time., all in the hopes of shooting down the credibility of the person poised to shoot holes in your wmd's in iraq theory., but wait., my bad, he personally knew exactly where to find the wmds that didnt exist. i hope the next time you lay down for a charge, the bolts in your neck take on to much power and your head explodes you no-count fool. mr cheney, i have some advice for you, just shut up and go away


There is a word for people who trade their principles for safety.

Cowards.


OK - pay attention - nobody is saying we won't be less safe if we stop torturing other humans and stop illegally spying on anyone we THINK might have a different opinion than us. What we are saying is that 200+ years ago our founders decided that safety wouldn't be taken at the expense of the freedoms and rights that they - and 1000 of heroes since - fought and died to give us.


Accusations naivety and lack of judgment coming from the man that pronounced we'd be greeted as liberators and that there was no doubt that were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and continued to insist upon a fictitious link between Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda that even George Bush finally admitted was non-existent. Cheney is a laughing stock...hurry up and die old man!


Bush and Cheney were told before 9/11 that terrorists would use planes to hit our buildings. They did not act to prevent 9/11. Unfortunately, 9/11 was the best thing to have happened to the Bush/Cheney presidency and to Haliburton's bottom line. And, unfortunately, Bush and Cheney were the best thing to happen to al Qaeda. Bush and Cheney created the Pandora's box called Gitmo. Dick is done. He is an old, past VP who should not incite fear or offer invitations to our enemies. It's interesting that this terror revelation came from the puppet master and not from the puppet himself. I'm hoping that the Feds are monitoring Cheney's phone and "business" contacts very closely. America needs help. That help is not in the form of Dick Cheney.


i love how all the conservatives chiming in have issues w obama, who hasnt even been in office a month yet., when w and darth have done nothing but sink this country on every front they possibly could for the last eight years., ya obamas the problem., lol.
-and dick, thanks for the advice, you're so profound., its like the arsonist showing up to a five alarm fire he started offering ideas on how to quell the blaze. get outta here, your ideas didnt work the first time, now it doesnt matter what u think, maybe u should realize that dick.


RG; you said a MOUTHFUL, and said it well!!!!


All the jackasses who on this board are telling Mr. Cheney to "go away" and other unsavory methodologies are more to be pitied than scorned. As usual, they fail miserably against common sense intelligence, as they continue to reframe the question and topic while they try to make it conform to their ideology. The fact remains that Mr. Bush's policies kept us alive since 9/11. I doubt anyone here could make up numbers (like the one who said the election was lost by "historic" numbers, when 52 million to 48 million is hardly anywhere near a mandate) or reframe that.
Speaking for the 48 MILLION, I think these posters are the ones who should go away. Under the already surprisingly inept Mr. Obama, I'm sure some of them will be "going away" sooner, rather than later.


Remember that 9/11 was planned during a time when we were taking zero actions against al qaeda, that the 9/11 report informed us that al qaeda thinks they beat the soviet union and then set their sights on us. (And repeatedly declared war on us.) With the two attacks on the World Trade Center, the embassy attacks, the U.S.S. Cole attack ... - all unprovoked - why would we think their attacks will stop if we let down our guard? As ugly as Bush's tactics seem to polite folk - this is war and they did protect us. I'm a Democrat sensible enough to look at the evidence and admit this. And I do think, protecting Americans from attacks is our Presidents first order of business - so I do not want Obama to remove what has been working.


Complacency. I think that is where some people have decided to live. If we believe in freedom and human rights, then we need to act as if we do. Sometimes that means that bad things will happen because we didn't stick electrodes to someone's testicles to find out where they have hidden a bomb. But it also means that people die for freedom and human rights. President Obama was absolutely right when he spoke about the need for all of us to pull our weight. Its not about going shopping on 9/12, its about all of us coming together and fighting for the principles of America, which have always won in the end.


Janet, don't be so naive. We don't need torture and domestic spying (on Americans) to stay safe.


Darth, you are the naive one. You should really investigate how much "torture" we have done. I am really check it out and not just listen to what the New York Times and NBC feeds you. Let's talk again in about a year, when all this "change" has happened. And by the way, I am registered and stay Independent. Have a nice day and stay safe.


I can't believe so many Americans are so naive about muslim terrorist that they are commenting so negatively about a person trying to protect them. These terrorist cut peoples head and display them, they rape women and impaled them with bamboo stick - Indonesian massacre. They bombed train full of people - to them if you are not a muslim, they can kill you anytime, anywhere (and they kill other Muslims too - Iraq). They can make friends with you to kill you - Philippine Army general killed after being given a gift of peace. They are also very intelligent, they know they can't fight the US head on, so they attack the economy (world trade center) inspired by the leader of Jemiah Islamiya - a terrorist organization based in Indonesia whose intent is a Muslim dominated world just like Hitler. I can attest that they already killed a lot people. Guess who grew up in Indonesia? There is a saying that if you can take the head, then you can take the body too. I guess that is why the Iranian president is happy (someone who wants to wipe Israel off the earth) as well as the Taliban whose first request is to dissolve Guantanamo Bay.


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