NY Post sorry if chimp cartoon offended

As usual, everyone wants to play the race card. It is not the NY Posts fault if some people are to ignorant to understand what the cartoon was portraying. By the way people, 65 million people voted for Obama. I think the race issue is over. You'll have to find something else to argue about. See you in the unemployement line Al and Jesse, LOL!

"As usual, everyone wants to play the race card." Posted by: Jerry M

Everyone?? The NY Post played the race card.

If anyone is so dense as to not see this for the blatant racism that it was meant to be, that of ALL the news stories going on all over the world, they zero in on the chimp story, then they are just too stupid to waste time on, and are part of exactly the dim-bulb group that the cartoon was aimed at.

The cartoon was insulting, childish, in poor taste, and a typical piece of Rupert Murdoch detritus. It is best categorized as a steaming heap of bovine fecal coliform culture media.

I think the race issue is over.
Posted by: Jerry M | February 20, 2009 7:28 AM

Leave it to a white guy to proclaim race is not an issue anymore and not only that......with his deep insight.....let's them know what is offensive to them and what isn't. Should blacks look at a noose more like a Christmas bow now? Who is the "ignorant" one? He also declares that because 53% of America voted for Obama as proof positive that racism is dead. Why that's nearly everyone...isn't it Jerry?

RE: "That Cartoon", I can neither believe nor accept the explanation given by the Post and its apologists to parse the chimp cartoon from Wednesday in an inoffensive light. If the chimp had actually been intended to represent the stimulus bill, the cop would have said "They're gonna have to find another stimulus bill", not "...someone else to write the next stimulus bill." If the dead chimp was really supposed to represent the successfully passed legislation, it could reasonably have been characterized as out of control, but not as having been killed. At whatever level, conscious or otherwise, this cartoon was exhibiting an ugly and violent hostility towards an administration that has begun trying to repair the damage wrought by the previous one. It was a disgusting display of the kind of demagogic posturing conservatives use to threaten and scare when they run out of persuasive argument. They fool no one with their phony 'apology'.

They shouldn't have to apologize. The cartoon was entirely legitimate. Any racial angle was purely fabricated by malcontents like Sharpton, who have a vested interest in making sure the race-baiting industry stays alive and well.

The little simian was just lying there with his little tongue hanging out, probably not fully comprehending that, at that moment, his days as a legislative bill writer may have come to a pre-mature end. The little fella apparently went on a rampage and he paid the price.

Unlike this little guy, the President of the United States, which would be President Obama now, does not write bills. Appropriations bills are normally originated by the Ways and Means committee in the House of Representatives, goes to the Senate, and then passed or vetoed by the American president. Perhaps the W&M committee did not write this bill, but it still originated in the House of Representatives. Political Science 101 we may could call this diligent process.

Now, simians are fairly intelligent creatures. They probably have their own somewhat secret language and logic that to a human may appear to be disjointed and maybe non-linear. They are not as unconditional faithful and useful as a good loyal dog, but they can do kinesthetic things with their hands and fingers like painting and works of fiction. Why could they not expand out to legislative bill write-ing? What additional special skill could possibly be required to do that? Has anyone ever read the stuff that gets propagated on an innocent Republic?

Somewhat familiar with the Legislative bill creation process, Django just does not see the racist connection. Django KNOWS too, that liberals, movee starz, and democrats would NEVER have said, or insinuated, anything even slightly ugly over the last few, 8 or so, years about the previous Republican occupant of the office of president. Certainly nothing that would have compared him to a chimp or a m- word thing.

Maybe it would just be best, if we just pretend that there were no such thing as a simian-class of animal, their admirable intelligence notwithstanding. It is so wrong to offend Liberals and the various subsets there-of. Somebody needs to do something.

Personally, I do not know if the cartoon was racist or not. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I think the fact that the Post left its cartoon open to a situation where its cartoons may be racist is sufficient reason to boycott the paper.

It would be no different if I told each and every viewer here "you may be an idiot, or maybe you're not." Would you send me money after I said that? Would you be my friend? Of course you wouldn't and rightly so. You would distance yourself from me because I made a comment that might be a direct insult at you. The same thing should be applied to the Post.

Django, if you have to go that far to try to rationalize it, that pretty much proves the point. Where is the humor if you take out the racial element? There is none. Regardless of the cartoonist's alleged intent, any half-decent journalist/editor can see the ambiguity and the potential to be offensive. I believe they wouldn't have published it without that ambiguity, because otherwise it's not funny, and the Post loves to tweak the liberals. If a cartoon needs a 3 paragraph explanation, it's a crappy cartoon.

Now back to Alex Rodriguez, to whom the Post has recently referred in their headlines as A-Fraud, A-Roid, and A-Hole. Not to mention a photo of his team mates at his press conference emblazoned with the headline, "We're with Stupid."

Hey, what are tabloids for?

The Post did what it did knowingly. The cartoon, racist or not, makes no sense and is offensive on many levels. They are, however, loving this free pub, but I don't think it will work in their favor. I don't normally find myself agreeing with Sharpton, but on this, I agree with him. They can take their apology and shove it!

When are the Tribune and other newpapers going to apologize for printing blogger messages calling George Bush a chimpanzee over and over? And when are the media going to apologize for their editorial cartoonists' portraying Bush as a monkey? The Post cartoon wasn't even aimed at Obama; it was directed at the writers of the stimulus bill, primarily Pelosi and Reid. Don't you just love selective outrage?

Rupert,

Django loves to tweak liberals too. They are so s e n s i t i v e. The humor would have been in the simian element, but liberals seem to automaticly process simian images in an altoghether different kind of light before any other consideration is given.

Surely could not tell you what the New York Post's thought processes are, but the cartoons published in the Houston Chronicle over the last 8 years, were totally the work of an extremely fertile imagination, probably more fecal-like than fertile. VERY little humor, but much on task with the Hate-Cheney / Hate- Bush agenda. Conservatives, neo-cons, wingnuts, all the things that we (Django, et.ux.) be, just need to know, I guess, that simians are going to be nothing but trouble. Going to get big Al all stirred up. Do not introduce a simian into the story line, for any reason.

If I got frogged up by things like this, I could never go near the NY Times, Washington Post, Houston Chronicle and probably a long list of others. Regards.

It just goes to show how utterly humourless liberals are. Al Sharpton would find offence just looking in the mirror.

I'm not "frogged" either, Django. If they want to poke fun at the stimulus, they can shoot porky pig. But look at all the attention they are getting now.

And when are the media going to apologize for their editorial cartoonists' portraying Bush as a monkey?
Posted by: Sandalio | February 20, 2009 1:31 PM

Wholly molly.....did Bushs' base know he was black?

Rupert, I had to laugh at what you wrote. Just me being me, appreciating the humor wherever I may find it, but something ~ the me being me part, that I generally only get to say to a pretty Latina.

The swine substitution that you propose, if I may reference it that way, may not work quite as well because 'swine' are not kinesthetic-ready straight out of the box. Their bill-typing-bill-writing skills would be instantly discounted by the astute, discerning, cartoon reading public. Also, a simian will suddenly, most unpredictably, do just about anything in the way of what gets to be included in the final package. Have to go simi..... Oops! No, have to be careful. Regards.

What is interesting now is how the victim card is being played by the right wing noise machine as well as the Congressional republicans – this after the aggressive hate filled dehumanizing and inflammatory violent rhetoric by the right that continues today. Whether it is Ann Coulter claiming that "liberal victims" are really the aggressors, or if it is Michelle Malkin playing victim after her posing with people holding Obama/swastika signs or if it is O’Reilly doing what he does best or Congressional republicans crying about the "lack of bipartisanship" which is hypocritical, laughable and transparent to the American people or the non-apology apology that the NY Post ran for the cartoon it ran – knowing full well that it is violent and tasteless and disgusting and inexcusable.

Of course, the "I don’t mean to apologize but I have to so here is a bogus apology" is disingenuous at best, and should never let anyone off the hook. But as we see more hand wringing from Wingnutistan and the right wing noise machine and their Keyboard Kommandos on here and the increasingly clueless Congressional republicans – I figured that I would jump the gun and offer some pre-emptive apologies to them.

I’m sorry that the republican party was so dumb as to think that just putting a woman on the ticket, that women would flock to vote for them, even though said woman (Palin) can best be called the Energizer Bunny of Stupid.

I’m sorry that I need to hear your whining now that the American public has overwhelmingly rejected the Republican policies of hate and divisiveness and greed in two successive election cycles.

I’m sorry that you are too thin skinned to take that which you have been dishing out for the past eight years.

I’m sorry that you are a bunch of bigots and racists.

I’m sorry you think it is ok to steal from the middle class but then cry about the poor Wall Street executives not being able to own four cars and send their kids to private school.

I’m sorry that the right wing noise machine spent years defending criminal activity by the Bush administration and then tries to create fake outrage at things that most Americans don’t care about.

In short, I’m sorry you don’t like the fact that you all stink so bad.

Sharon K wrote: "If anyone is so dense as to not see this for the blatant racism that it was meant to be..."


Oh puh-leeze! It takes a mind irrevocably committed to race-baiting to not see this for the commentary on the Porkulus bill that it was meant to be.

Oh puh-leeze! It takes a mind irrevocably committed to race-baiting to not see this for the commentary on the Porkulus bill that it was meant to be.

Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspirator | February 20, 2009 3:34 PM
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Oh puh-leeze! The right-wing lunatic fringe (you) have a track record of being racist and bigotted. If you want the benefit of the doubt then you better start working on changing your ways and taking responsibility for your actions. And as far as your BS "pork" talking point, is that what the right-wing lunatic fringe calls it when money is being spent on creating jobs and giving tax cuts to the middle class and not the rich fatcats that you support? You have a lot of nerve calling any spending on jobs, "pork" after you idiots just got done spending the last eight years doubling our national debt, giving tax cuts to the rich and starting an unnecessary war in Iraq that we've burned up billions on (most of it still unaccounted for).
That is why the Repuglicans are not taken seriously anymore, you don't have any new idea's so you just sit around and cry about the Dems...and that's exactly why your ranks are getting smaller and smaller every single day.

"The right-wing lunatic fringe (you) have a track record of being racist and bigotted."


Evidence, if you please.

What's that, you have none? Oh, silly me, liberals don't need evidence. They have emotion. What else is necessary?

Idiot.

"Oh puh-leeze! It takes a mind irrevocably committed to race-baiting to not see this for the commentary on the Porkulus bill that it was meant to be."
Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspirator

It takes an irrevocably stupid mind not to see that its ambiguous and can be offensive to people; believe me, they knew this when they published it.....vast right wing lunatic.

Actually, if you want to talk about a "track record of being racist and bigoted," you should note that it's the demorat party that has a former KKK recruiter that's a sitting senator and who filibustered the voting rights act of 1964. Going to be tough to top that "racist bigoted" record, you demoRAT.

What's that, you have none? Oh, silly me, liberals don't need evidence. They have emotion. What else is necessary?Idiot.

Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspirator | February 20, 2009 4:53 PM

Teresa, when you start calling out Rush, Bill-O, Hannity, Malkin, Coulter, NYPost etc etc for their racism and bigotry, we'll start giving you a break. Until then, you will be considered what you are: a loyal robot foot soldier in the anti-Obama/Democratic keyboard commando brigade who has nothing to offer but excuses and whining, idiot.

Evidence, if you please.

KKK

Going to be tough to top that "racist bigoted" record, you demoRAT.

Posted by: Jeff | February 20, 2009 5:08 PM
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Your buddies at Fixed News Channel are doing their best to keep you Wingnut whiners way ahead of the Dems in the racism and bigotry dept, Jeffy.

Just ask Bill-O the Clown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edYeqzTJci4

God created us and to denegrate any other 'different' characteristics in fellow beings and ESPECIALLY to the point of eliminating them is demonic. There is no doubt to any reasonable mind that this 'cartoon'(?) symbolizes this. Hasn't this been tried before and as ALWAYS will go down?

One (Sen. Byrd) versus millions?? hahahaha

Wasn't Bush called "Chimpy" for years by many Dems and Progressives in comments posted on blogs? Just being the Devil's advocate.

There's that no evidence problem, again. And don't millions of DEMOCRATS vote for the Klansman every 6 years? Would that Byrd were the only one, hahaha.

Jeff you're such an idiot; Byrd hasn't been in the Klan for decades; meanwhile millions of Klansmen and Birchers and rednecks vote Republican today. So give it a rest.