Obama: Robert E. Lee'd be 'very confused'

No more Palin publicity!!!!

Ha! Isn't Obama a little confused also? He thinks he's Abraham Lincoln! I wonder what the Obama Army uniforms look like? Probably adorned with ACORNS!

Lieberman's a clown in more ways than one. Joking about torture? Remember that the the next time that self-righteous phony starts preaching.

The Queen of Alaska and the Senator from Israel.

Barack better have food tasters with those two in the background.

Even though Lee fought for the Confederates, he was adamently anti-slavery and pivotal in ending the Civil War. Obama sounds as though he is the one who is confused.

Come on, now. There have to be some good Democrats on this board who have some problems with this. I mean, there are real people hurting right now. How can any American president laugh when an American is without a job? How can any American president laugh when an American soldier is thousands of miles from home, in danger of death? This, at least, was the logic applied any time Bush got off a good line or two at one of these roasts. (Incidentally, I think many of these lines were quite funny -- especially the one about the labradoodle owing back taxes.) But come on now, all you good Left-wingers on this board: Lay into Obama for daring to laugh when everything isn't wonderful.

How nice to see the elected (not by me) officials enjoying an exclusive night, with a supposedly great meal and entertainment. Gee, how about enjoying some real cooking and good time: macaroni and cheese and a few folks with absolutely no political power?
Except to vote you out of office.

Our Jackass-in-chief isn't even one tenth of the man that General Lee was in any way. What a disgraceful comment.

Hillbilly Palin must have really thought she was in high cotton..Too bad the media can't just leave her alone so most of us here in the real world can foget her...

Sarah Palin, you go girl, we love ya
2012

P.S. Wonder who paid for this dress she is wearing??Should have worn her hair up. She is getting too old to try and look 25...

Oh how cute. Insider jokes abound.

Get back to work!

I am SO sick & tired of the OBAMA's and its only been a week and a half...You know what I find SO DISGUSTING.... He and Michelle are exploiting their daughters...Have you all seen the cover of US magazine... What a crock...the Obama's say they are going to try and keep the girls lives normal...pretty soon, they are going to come out swinging when someone comments about his kids or a photographer is perhaps a bit pushy....Notice to the OBAMA's if you parade your kids for the public to boost your image & your bank account....then they become fair game.....If they are bratty or get fat or whatever...... The media will talk about it, as you two obviously aren't too concerned about exploiting them...As a mother of 4, you two make me sick....Kids don't belong in the spotlight like that...Look at the kids who are chewed up & spit out by Hollywood.... And since politics IS HOLLYWOOD FOR UGLY PEOPLE!!! You are setting them up! Shame on you!

Why are Dems sooooo afraid of Palin publicity?

It's good to laugh in these tough times. I'm so happy. The President is smart and funny. Oh Joy!

Obama Girl---If you don't like it, read the New York Times.

I have a good sense of humor, but I did not find these jokes funny. I feel sad reading them.

How about this joke:

I think I will refuse to pay my taxes until I am appointed for a cabinet position.

Just have to wonder what the reaction would have been if Obama was white and Lee was black. Still the same "ha, ha, he's so funny"? I kind of doubt it.

Wow. How funny would that comment have been if a WHITE President said that MLK was "confused"?

I think our "President" needs a little more education as to Lee's attitude towards slavery. What a flippant and ignorant statement tossed out to maintain support from a particular demographic.

While a slave-owner, Lee felt that slavery would eventually end In an 1856 letter to his wife, he wrote, "The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence." His views were very prevalent among his gentrified class. They thought that they were truly providing a better life for blacks than what they had in Africa, and that eventually they would be freed.

And yet again the media, instead of jumping on his error, laps it up and fails to put him on the spot for his obvious historical blunder. Shame!

More Palin, please. Especially those with her cute son, Trig.

After the Civil War, Lee was at service in St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Richmond VA. When time came for the congregants to come forward for communion, only an elderly black man, a former slave, walked to the front and knelt. Shocked silence filled the church. Finally one person got up, walked down and knelt beside the black man-- Robert E. Lee. In 1907 his daughter Mary was arrested in Alexandria Va. for violating Jim Crow laws- she refused to move from the back of a train, which was reserved for "blacks only"

First of all I am so over hearing that Obama is the first African American President! Has anyone forgotten that he is half white or should I be more politically correct with Caucasian?!?! Secondly I believe this election was more heinous and full of scams than when Bush won over Gore! ACORNS anyone!!! And last only because I have to keep this short, I have looked for reasons to like this new "president" and I am sad to say I can't find a thing to like. He has taken every chance in front of the camera to jab at the former American Presidents and historical figures. Is there any class in this presidency? GOD help us!

Well, one thing's for sure - the people at that dinner were in better humor than the grouches posting these comments!

Obama obviously doesn't understand Robert E. Lee or the reasons for the American Civil War. About what I expect of him.

What kind of fool is Obama to think that a man as intelligent as General Robert E. Lee would be in any way confused were he to appear at the dinner. Obama and his lackeys would shrivel at the presence of Lee. Lee would bring such real character into the room - character being that manifestation of a man which demonstrates that he has internalized and lives out the great virtue - that it would banish by its mere presence the shallow cult of personality which we children of the anti-culture have come to label "personality" and which we in utter idolatry worship!

Joe, most of us Dems are far from afraid of Palin publicity. Although I think it is sad that so many Republics look to her as the new face of a badly beaten party, I would love to see a microphone in her face every day until she makes it through as the frontrunner in the 2012 primaries.

wow, funny how all the right wingers on these boards look for any chance they get to bash an african american

I can't believe how many General Lee apologists are out there. Carla, did you seriously read that quote? You people are nut-jobs.

Yeah, I'm sure Robert E Lee would really be perfectly comfortable saluting a black president. He was such a progressive slave-holder. Bonnie Blue, maybe you should get back to your civil war reenactment, but I have bad news for you, The Yankees won!

JB, Bush joked about looking for WMD's, his strongest (read weakest) justification for going to war while thousands of men, women and children were dying because of it. Hardly a comparison to any of the jokes Obama stated above.

I do agree though, I hope he lays off the one-liners, rolls up his sleeves and starts bailing the Titanic his predecessor left him.

Lee would have not believed his President and Commander-in-Chief could have an African father and the First Lady was not pale. Quote:
(From Freeman, Douglas Southall (1934). . Lee: A Biography. New York and London: Charles Scribner's Sons., p 376)
"It is true that the people of the South, in common with a large majority of the people of the North and West, are, for obvious reasons, inflexibly opposed to any system of laws that would place the political power of the country in the hands of the negro race. But this opposition springs from no feeling of enmity, but from a deep-seated conviction that, at present, the negroes have neither the intelligence nor the other qualifications which are necessary to make them safe depositories of political power."

IDIOT: As if he would know what Robert E. Lee were thinking..!? That's like me saying I know what Noah would be thinking if he suddenly showed up on our shores in the Ark!!?

First R. E. Lee was a Christan man, who saw the races as equal and I doubt would be surprised a black man is President. He would proabably expect it sooner or later, 2ndly I believe Lee would judge Obama by his character, actions, and beliefs, not his skin color. In this I think he would respect the man but say "fail"!

IDIOT: As if he would know what Robert E. Lee were thinking..!? That's like me saying I know what Noah would be thinking if he suddenly showed up on our shores in the Ark!!?

First R. E. Lee was a Christan man, who saw the races as equal and I doubt would be surprised a black man is President. He would proabably expect it sooner or later, 2ndly I believe Lee would judge Obama by his character, actions, and beliefs, not his skin color. In this I think he would respect the man but say "fail"!

Barack Obama and Robert E. Lee are distant cousins, a proven genealogical fact.

Folks...General Lee was not a US President. He sympathized with slaves but at not at the expense of the dollar worth on human beings to whites in his family and friends. This was a long time ago. Move on. We live in a new time, a new world.

I think we elected the right guy. He has a sense of humor, a sense of history, and is tough enough to ignore jabs such as those posted here.
BTW, whatever you think about Robert E. Lee's "true" feelings, he led the army of a government whose main reason for existence was to maintain slavery in their territory.

And what a stereotypical, unthoughtful comment you make, Eric. I'm not bashing him because he's African-American. I could care less what COLOR he is - I have a problem with his character. He spent many of his formative years living outside of the U.S., so perhaps that is the source of his shameful ignorance on American History. If he chooses to wear the moniker of African-American instead of his true identity as mixed-race or half-black/half-white, he should be better informed as to the true history of the culture he claims.

Hey everyone angry who decided to post on this forum. The event was a Roast. It does not mean that Roast was on the menu. Study literature geniuses satire has been around for awhile.

I love how anyone with a pickup truck, gun rack and confederate flag LOVES Robert E. Lee.

As for the comments regarding the Obama's exploiting their children. Do you remember, have you seen pictures of the Kennedy family? They are a beautiful family and just because they all have a full set of teeth you don't want to see them.

Of course all of my humor is a Roast of this forum.

One serious note for CARLA. Please don't confuse ETHNIC-RACE and CULTURE. And, never, never argue in public like your post. You are uninformed and shallow in your views. Makes you sound like a moron.

Come on, now. There have to be some good Democrats on this board who have some problems with this. I mean, there are real people hurting right now. How can any American president laugh when an American is without a job? How can any American president laugh when an American soldier is thousands of miles from home, in danger of death? This, at least, was the logic applied any time Bush got off a good line or two at one of these roasts. (Incidentally, I think many of these lines were quite funny -- especially the one about the labradoodle owing back taxes.) But come on now, all you good Left-wingers on this board: Lay into Obama for daring to laugh when everything isn't wonderful.

Posted by: JB | February 1, 2009 4:22 PM

Oh my God! Do you mean we have to actually do penance for living? In your estimation the world should be a morose place because there are bad things happening. News flash, there will ALWAYS be bad things happening somewhere else in the world. Does that mean we can never take time to breathe, relax or enjoy beauty or God forbid, have fun?

There is good line from Jesus Christ Superstar: as Judas complains to Jesus that he should not be allowing Mary Magdalene to soothe him with all of the poor struggling in the world, "There will be poor always, think of the good things you've got".

They are not joking around, they are speaking the truth. This is how they all feel, they could care less, its all about the party and how many they can have to attend, just another hollywood night. All at the cost of us, and we are not even invited, gotta sit home and hope we got enough money to pay our rent and bills. They all forgot to mention that the Government. was a lot smaller when General Robert E. Lee was around. I hope they all choke on a ritz

"Even though Lee fought for the Confederates, he was adamently anti-slavery and pivotal in ending the Civil War. Obama sounds as though he is the one who is confused. "

Posted by: Marko
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Still refuse to believe that the Civil War was fought over slavery, too? Ignorant comments like your's make my brain twitch. Sure Lee may have been against slavery, but was in no way infavor of African American equality to White America. Robert E. Lee was a traitor to the United States and should have met the fate of all traitors!

To everyone harping about the Robt E Lee joke, bear in mind that anyone from the 19th C would be confused by the faces of American power these days. Maybe that's what he meant? Geez, get a life, folks!

A man like Robert E. Lee would not be confused. It would have made him even more of a Southern Patriot. And me too! He would have reconsidered freeing slaves.

Obama's statement re. Bobby Lee was made out ignorance.

Lincoln, Sherman and Grant would be the ones confused. Here is a few examples of Lincoln's view:

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

Mr. Lincoln’s Speech, Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois,” September 18, 1858

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“I cannot make it better known than it already is that I strongly favor colonization.”

Abraham Lincoln’, 2nd Annual Message, December 1,1862, Washington, DC

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I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.

I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution–which amendment, however, I have not seen–has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service. To avoid misconstruction of what I have said, I depart from my purpose not to speak of particular amendments so far as to say that, holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.

First Inaugural Address of Abraham Lincoln, Monday, March 4, 1861

Wow, sure are alot of ppl that got up on the wrong side of the bed here. :P

Lee was opposed to secession, opposed to the perpetuation of slavery...would have made a good Lincoln Republican (not to be confused with the repugnicans of the last forty years), yet when push came to shove, he threw in with the secessionists and the slave mongers, out of a sense of honor and loyalty to his state. So much for honor and loyalty. Should have listened to Longstreet at Gettysburg, as far as his nobility and wisdom are concerned. Where did I read that Obama's mother is a descendant of Jefferson Davis? There's the guy that would really have been confused.

Jeff Davis would not have been confused either. Jeff Davis was influenced by his brother and established court and juries among his slaves to handle certain cases. All as part of training to be freemen.

The Davis' family had adopted a black child, who was taken away by the Yankees never to be seen again. That child's name was Jim Limber.

Look at Grant and Sherman for examples of people who would be confused today. Imagine Sherman (of the original final solution proponent) learning that an Indian could be elected to Congress. Imagine Grant learning that Jews could also be elected to Congress.

So much history to learn, so little time.

Lets all remember this. Obama is only 50% african/american. So using simple math ( liberals do not understand simple math, it makes sense), Obama is really only the first half african/american president. Or, just another average white president. Remember, his grandma was just an average white person!

Jaime may have confused Sherman with Sheridan, who was indeed the source of the line "The only good Indian is a dead one". Sherman was determined to beat the Indians the same way he beat the Confederates, but was as considerate afterwards of one as of the other. Grant was endorsed by prominent Jewish leaders in his election campaign of 1868, and carried the Jewish vote.

People need to lighten up....this is an annual party. It's a roast and bi partisan. Taxpayers do not pay for this.
I thought the jokes were hilarious.

Posted by: Carla | February 1, 2009 7:50 PM \

So Lee was a pro-slavery racist. Yep, he sure would be confused. Almost as confused as you.

He fought for a hateful cause. He oppressed blacks and held them as property because he thought the were a lesser form of being who couldn't care for themselves wiuthout his superior white guidance.

I'll happily say it: Robert E. Lee was racist slaveholding scum. He was a dishonorable man, who broke a sworn oath to fight for the right to hold slaves. He deserves no one's respect, no one's admiration, just contempt for him and the slave holding society he fought for..

WLG:And that would make Lincoln a ??? Or, have you read any of the posts?

No, no.I am not confused. Sherman is the one that talked about the "final solution of the indian problem." Different quote altogether.

Here is a link to Gen. Grant's General Order 11:
http://www.jewish-history.com/civilwar/go11.htm

GENERAL ORDERS No. 11.
HDQRS. 13TH A. C., DEPT. OF THE TENN.,
Holly Springs, December 17, 1862.

The Jews, as a class violating every regulation of trade established by the Treasury Department and also department orders, are hereby expelled from the department within twenty-four hours from the receipt of this order.
Post commanders will see that all of this class of people be furnished passes and required to leave, and any one returning after such notification will be arrested and held in confinement until an opportunity occurs of sending them out as prisoners, unless furnished with permit from headquarters.
No passes will be given these people to visit headquarters for the purpose of making personal application for trade permits.

By order of Maj. Gen. U.S. Grant:
JNO. A. RAWLINS,
Assistant Adjutant-General.

Official Records of the War of the Rebellion, Series I, Vol. 17, Part II, p. 424.

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I was not know that Lincoln rescinded it.

I cannot believe I almost missed this bit from WLG.

"Robert E. Lee was racist slaveholding scum"

This just proves that you are really ignorant of the issues at hand.

Lee owned no slaves.

After the fall of South Carolina Mrs. Grant stopped by to pay a visit to the General. She brought her servants along. So, the only legally held slave in "liberated" South Carolina was owned by Grant's wife.

Ironic.

Not only would the rebel commander be confused; a lot of those rednecks in Alassippi still can't believe their eyes when they see Barack sitting in the Oval.

For descendants of abolitionists and Union soldiers, a sight for sore eyes.

Posted by: JaimeInTexas | February 2, 2009 8:19 PM

It woukd make Lincoln a racist. That's beyond question. He was still morall\y superior to Lee and his slaveholding countrymen, because at least Lincoln could see slavery as the evil it was. Why can't you?

Oh, and by the way, you are quite wrong. Lee did own slaves. He was in fact slave owning scum. (As was Misses Grant.)

http://www.nps.gov/history/museum/exhibits/arho/exb/Slavery/ARHO283_Map-Arlington-Estat.html

http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation/lees%20slave.htm

Its just shows how deeply racism stains our society that we have folks on here defending slavery and honoring slave owners.

Did you all miss the part about this club excluding blacks until the 70's and women until the 90's?

That's why Lee would have been confused..a room full of diversity.

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He spent many of his formative years living outside of the U.S.,
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huh?
He lived in Indonesia as an elementary school child.
So the ages of 5 to 10 are your formative years?
Well I suppose so if all you aspire to know is how to read short words and do basic math.

Unless you consider Hawaii out of the U.S. and if so you messed up during your "formative years", LOL

WLG: I did not mean to imply he never owned slaves. My fault. When did Lee last own slaves? How did slaves end up under his "onwership?" I am very glad to see that you did some research. Keep it up.

tinat: If you believe in freedom of association then those types of clubs will occur and not just "whites only." BTW, I am a member of a so called minority group.

Read about the Black Codes in the northern States.

Posted by: JaimeInTexas | February 3, 2009 10:35 AM

As I said I stand by my point Robert E. Lee was slave owning scum. That he eventually released them does not change that fact. It also doesn't change the fact that he served a government dedicated to the preservation and extension of that vile institution.

I feel nothing but contempt for any individual who held slaves at any point, North or South, Union or Confederate. I understand that many people, like you, don't really see it as a very big deal, and are willing to completely ignore the fact that men like Lee were willing to deny others their most basic of rights for their own profit and comfort.

I guess you are with Lincoln's feeling:of lettting the freed slaves "root hog or die?" Complete disregards to the context of the times and society.

In societies where slavery was a common part of life, I just have to accept that that was how things were. How the slaves were treated, by onwers and society around them, is of more importance to me in trying to understand those times.

I am of the opinion that the South would have ended slavery, peacefully, over a period of time (if no war) and the society would have been more open to accepting the former slaves as members than the North was been.

Alas, we will never know.

Posted by: JaimeInTexas | February 3, 2009 11:39 AM

Again, as I said, you don't see slave holding as a big deal. I do. That's a fundamental distance we will never bridge. In your opinion, it's really not a big thing if the south had held slaves for another few decades, or longer. As long as those poor darkies looked happy on Massa's plantation, everything is alright. What did the slaves need with the most basic freedoms as long as noble white guys like Lee were looking out for them?They could never have taken care of themselves with out Massa benevolently keeping them and their children as slaves for many more years. Just keep smiling and playing the banjo darkies, Massa Lee and Massa Jaime will take good care of you. They're owning you for your own good!

It matters not at all to me how the slaves were treated by therir owners. Holding other humans as property is an unforgivable violence to the dignity of every human person.

Yes, I do think another decade or two [of slavery] would have been preferable to the slaughter and the overthrow of Constitutinal government that happened.

If I am not mistaken, the original anti-slavery societies began in the South. If not, there were such societies in the South.

I guess we are agreeing to disagree.

If I am not mistaken, the original anti-slavery societies began in the South. If not, there were such societies in the South.

I guess we are agreeing to disagree.

Posted by: JaimeInTexas | February 3, 2009 5:34 PM

You'd be wrong on that fact. Read "The Road to Disunion" books by William Freehiling. Anti-slavery work was actually illegal in most of the southern states. Pro-abolition newspaper editors were lynched. That's the freedom that the CSA stood for, as, apparently do you. Freedom to hold blacks in bondage, and the freedom to silence anyone who disagrees. That's what Robert E. Lee was fighting for. That is the society you defend. Would you be willing to have yourself and your family enslaved to undo the loss of Constitutional giovernment you mourn? How many generations of your childrens and grandchildrens freedom would you be willing to sacrifice to undo the Civil war? Or is it just blacks that you would like to see enduring slavery in the name of "states rights"? How much less was the freedom of blacks in the south worth than the freedom you believe was denied to the white southern slaveholders like General Lee?

Yes we disagree. I hold the freedom of every man and woman to be equally important, regardless of race. You clearly do not. You favor the "rights" of slave holding scum like Lee over the true and basic rights of their suffering victims.

""The Road to Disunion"

Familiar with the title but have not read it.

"Anti-slavery work was actually illegal in most of the southern states."

Thanks for the correction. Was that after Turner, Brown and speeches by many in the north encouraging slave revolts and the slaugher of whites, like in Haiti?

"I hold the freedom of every man and woman to be equally important, regardless of race. You clearly do not."

Really? Obviously you cannot distinguish between studying history and living today.

"How many generations of your childrens and grandchildrens freedom would you be willing to sacrifice to undo the Civil war?"

The way I see it, some liberties have improved while so many others have been steadily decreasing.

The fact is that the Federal government did not have the Constitutinal grant of authorities to prevent a State from leaving the Union. And every Federal usurpation today is a descendant of the destruction led by Lincoln.

"The way I see it, some liberties have improved while so many others have been steadily decreasing."

So, of course then you'd be willing to see your children sold off as chattle slaves to restore those liberties, right?

You'd be willing to become the property of General Lee's decendants in a restored, seceeded Confederacy, wouldn't you? And as his private property, with no rights, you'd never ever consider revolt to get your freedom, would you? You'd be a happy field hand, smiling as your children are sold away, as your wife is raped by Massa, and as the whip falls on your back for the slightest of infringements, wouldn't you?

You cry bitter tears for the poor white victims of slave revolts ( a threat which barelty existed outside the minds of slave holders), while ignoring to greater violence done to the slaves themselves. You admire the slave holder, you disdain the slave striving for a bit of freedom. I see why you admire Lee so. You'd fight for slavery just as hard as he did. You'd be as willing as he was to live off the back of slave labor, while smugly talking about the importance of "freedom". To talk of freedom in a society that holds slaves is rank hypocrisy, nothing more.

for those of you confused about Obama's race and or ethnicity or whatever mankind uses to distinguish one's self from another; his father is African and his mother is American, come on now, just do the math. He's more african american than tyrone.

So I did not have time nor patience enough to read all of your comments, however, I'm sure there were ignorant people speaking ill of Robert E. Lee, and I suppose similarly ignorant people speaking misfortunes of Obama.
So now it's time for me to drop some facts.

Lee owned slave, although he was not to particular to the idea. Does this make him racist? Not necessarily, for then you would have to assume the same sense of racism from George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
And you also must keep in mind that in those times, the idea of slavery was acceptable.
Also contrary to popular belief, the slavery issue was not a factor in the Civil War until the Emancipation Proclamation. The Confederate states seceded from the union over the issue of states rights and the power of state governments to totally rule over its land and decide its own issues.

Have you ever read the Confederate's documents as to why they went to war? Why deny what the Confederacy had already clearly stated? After reading David Barton (a Tennessean) in his quotations (http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=92) of the Confederates' own words, can you deny that the central issue of the Confederate war expressly stated to be their racist right own African slaves? Be mindful, though, that the union had allowed them independence until they attacked Sumter ("War of Northern Aggression"?). The fate of the Confederacy was the same if Cuba attacked Guantanamo ("War of US aggression"?). Read the theocracy of Texas in "Declaration of Causes of Seceding States":
"In all the non-slave-holding States, in violation of that good faith and comity which should exist between entirely distinct nations, the people have formed themselves into a great sectional party, now strong enough in numbers to control the affairs of each of those States, based upon an unnatural feeling of hostility to these Southern States and their beneficent and patriarchal system of African slavery, proclaiming the debasing doctrine of equality of all men, irrespective of race or color-- a doctrine at war with nature, in opposition to the experience of mankind, and in violation of the plainest revelations of Divine Law. They demand the abolition of negro slavery throughout the confederacy, the recognition of political equality between the white and negro races, and avow their determination to press on their crusade against us, so long as a negro slave remains in these States."- http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/reasons.html#Texas

Ok so to begin with its funny how everybody who voted for Obama now regret the fact that he's president. No I DO NOT agree with him being president. Not because of the fact that i'm racist or wanted OUR country to remain all white presidents, but simply because he's not right for the job. What has he done so far to help OUR country? NOTHING! McCain might not have been any better but at least he and his parents both originated from America. And as far as the whole Robert E. Lee thing. In my personal opinion is that he isn't recognized enough. On the 3rd monday of January King/Lee is celebrated. Although you wouldn't realize Lee had any part in it. They were both a part of our American history and they should both be equally represented. And as far as you people go who down Lee OR King, you don't show much class yourself. Grow up! Our country is flling apart and all we can do is argue about who is right and wrong! We should all pull together. And as far as anyone who doesn't agree with anything i've said in this comment, that is completely ok. That just means i'm standing up for what I believe in.