Obama to GOP: 'Driving toward a cliff'

Please -- He needs a win. He needs to set up Democratic largesse (and I'm a Democrat!) for decades to come and he doesn't care if he bankrupts us all to get there.

This pork package has little support among americans, so stop with the hooey that we need this, Mr. Prez. YOU need it. We knew you were inexperienced and a fraud and you've proven it over and over again.

He is 100% correct, President Obama walked into a a snake pt and he is trying to make the best of this situation. John McCain and company is trying to reclaim fame by opposing him. Well all I can say is good luck on that. People are losing their jobs and Republicans are trying to make a comeback. Give me a break, talk about selfishness. Rush, Hannity are polluting the airwaves with toxic information and noone is smart enough to understand neither give two hoots about their problems. It is a game and it is sad. I supporrt the stimulus package and will fight for the passage. I encourage people to call the WH in support of getting something passed and soon. With Republicans or without something need to be passed. People are hurting, seriously in trouble.

Push for the already failed policy; 'spend baby spend' by means of tax deduction has plunged the U.S. into the tremendous red ink, It looks like a Mugabe style, I'd say.

I hope Obama keeps the "Buy American" and "Hire American" provisions in the stimulus package. Americans and their kids will be paying for this package long after Obama is no longer President. It should help foremost the American manufacturing base and Americans that are unemployed. When our economy is stable then we can worry about the world economy.

This is a call to arms. All of you who voted for change better man the barricades. The soundbiters are snapping all over the cable chatter boxes. Morning Joe just got a PhD in Economics and is telling all of us what is wrong with stimulus. I have had it. Get the congress off its fat and spreading butts and get them to vote for this--amend it maybe--but get it done before we do drive off the cliff.

This is a call to arms. All of you who voted for change better man the barricades. The soundbiters are snapping all over the cable chatter boxes. Morning Joe just got a PhD in Economics and is telling all of us what is wrong with stimulus. I have had it. Get the congress off its fat and spreading butts and get them to vote for this--amend it maybe--but get it done before we do drive off the cliff.

Looks like BHO may be finally figuring out the Republicans want him to fail. That's the marching orders received from Rush.

He's been kissy facing with the Repubs for 2 weeks now to no avail.
They just keep b!%@# slapping him. Now it's time to put some 'Bamma! heat on them.

Having read his 'Audacity' book I thought at the time he seemed hopelessly optimistic in regard to working with his political opponents.

But, oddly, he seems to favor nodding to his right wing detractors, (the 'base') more than working with liberals, progressives or reformers.

His choices for cabinet positions are another puzzle. Tax cheats, legal problems, Clinton retreads, and Republicans. Why on Earth is he trying to put Gregg in Commerce?

Makes me wonder whom he will nominate to replace Ruth G. on the SC?

He needs to get his groove back, and fast.

beth is the fraud
it's not a pork package, tho' Pelosi tried.

So the pilot is smart. The plane has been hit by a flock of dodos for 8 years, and the engine is failing. When the pilot says, no time for the airport lets land in the river, he is being a leader who knows an emergency when he sees one. It's Stimulus NOW, or the whole country could end up like Flint Michigan. Jobs, savings, and hope gone.

I hope he fails. So says Rush...so says the republicans. Once again they try to use emotions of Americans weary of bailouts in a desire to push us to the cliff. Just as they used them in the run up to the Iraq war. They are good at that. It's their failed policies they aren't so good at.

The GOP has already driven off a cliff...we just have to keep them from taking the rest of the country with them...

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"Frustrated by a lack of bipartisan outreach from House Democratic leaders, Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said House Republicans -- who voted unanimously last week against the economic plan pushed by President Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi -- will pitch a "positive, loyal opposition" to the proposal. The group, he added, should also "understand insurgency" in implementing efforts to offer alternatives."

"Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban," Sessions said during a meeting yesterday with Hotline editors. "And that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban. No, that's not what we're saying. I'm saying an example of how you go about [sic] is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with."
http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2009/02/sessions_gop_in.php
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No word on whether the Limbaugh House Republicans plan to offer an alternative stimulus bill focusing on funding for kite eradication, religious monument destruction and burqas for all post-pubescent women.

The Limbaugh House Republicans—whose speaker in 2004 said they would only pass bills that had the support of "the majority of the majority"—can't get their way because of the tyranny of, you know, losing elections and having far fewer votes in a deliberative body. So, according to one of their leaders, they should model themselves after the secretive and tyrannical religious zealots who terrorize Afghans and provided a safe haven to Osama bin Laden.

President Obama has appealed to the Republicans to act in a spirit of bipartisanship for the good of the country. One of the Republican leaders in the House of Representatives thinks the Republicans should model themselves after implacable, violent and tyrannical theocrats opposed to dissent, pluralism, liberty and modernity. Let's hope everyone ponders the contrast, and realizes what we're dealing with as we try to get the Republicans to work cooperatively with Democrats in the best interests of all Americans.

Beth is full of Hooey. People are HURTING. Yes, the greedheads need to be dealt with--but short term, it's like Iris said--we've hit birds and thank allah we have a good pilot trying to do the right thing.

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Posted by: bill r. | February 5, 2009 10:19 PM
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Who's using the emotions, bill? It seems like Obama’s doing it this time. When Republicans used rhetoric like Obama's “Driving toward a cliff” statements, Democrats called it "scare tactics." And they weren’t wrong in saying so.
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The truth be told, Congress doesn't need to be herded or stampeded AGAIN; not by the Republicans and not by the Democrats. There is simply no reason for Congress not to slow down a little and take a good look at what they are doing with a bill that potentially holds the record for the most money spent at once. The last time they got hurried up and stampeded into a decision, they spat out that $810 billion Wall Street Bailout boondoggle - which has FAILED in its purpose. That one didn’t work because Congress didn’t take the time to work on the details. So, honestly, ask yourself if we really want Congress to hurry up and turn out another nonstarter with a $1 trillion price tag this time. I know I don't. If we do, it will only prove that we still have no adult leadership in Washington.

He's absolutely right.

It's a scene out of REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE.

The drag racing scene, that is.

But it is an exercise in misdirection, for the Repuglicans, that is.

In the Senate Banking hearing today, it became increasingly clear that the delegation of "oversight" to one plenipotentiary "Inspector General" just won't work.

He won't be able to perform that function any better than the SEC under Bush.

Even the Repuglicans on the committee finally woke up to the fact that you just can't trust private institutions to honestly deal with billions handed over to them with virtually no strings attached.
Just as FDR declared a "bank holiday", so Obama must come to the realization that the banking system and lending, or at least secured lending, must be nationalized.

And nationalized fast.

He's absolutely right.

It's a scene out of REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE.

The drag racing scene, that is.

But it is an exercise in misdirection, for the Repuglicans, that is.

In the Senate Banking hearing today, it became increasingly clear that the delegation of "oversight" to one plenipotentiary "Inspector General" just won't work.

He won't be able to perform that function any better than the SEC under Bush.

Even the Repuglicans on the committee finally woke up to the fact that you just can't trust private institutions to honestly deal with billions handed over to them with virtually no strings attached.
Just as FDR declared a "bank holiday", so Obama must come to the realization that the banking system and lending, or at least secured lending, must be nationalized.

And nationalized fast.

"GOP Driving Toward a Cliff"

What? You people didn't expect the Republicans to behave like children with an Oppositional Defiance Disorder?

Where have you people been for the last 8 years?

The Repubicans have majored in denial, distraction and defiance over anything remotely Democratic for about 30 years now. Its sort of like Abby Hoffman's:
"Revolution for the Hell of It", only its really, "Anti-Change for the Hell of It".

There is no reasoning with Republicans because they care more about their decrepit ideology than the good of the country and they always have. There are no principles involved with them. You would think that after getting blown out in two straight elections and having their party shrink down to the point where they are basically just a regional party (the South) that they would finally start acting reasonable...and you would think wrong. Reagan was a myth. Bush was a Nightmare on Wall Street and the battlefield.

You need any more proof?

Democrat controlled Congress.
Democrat controlled Executive Branch.

Stimulus Bill written by Democrats.

The Democrat written Stimulus Bill can pass Congress without 1 Republican vote.

Does the Democrat Senate Majority have the ......'s to bring the Bill to the floor for a vote without Republican support?

In its present form this bill will do nothing and will only add trillions to the debt. Obama and the Left complain the Bush policies added trillions to the debt. This so-called plan will add over $1 trillion to the debt all by itself, in just one year!
Tax cuts did not harm the economy and put us in this mess.
If the so-called spending strictly was for infrastructure improvements, then fine. But it is filled with all kinds of wasteful spending that will not help the economy. Recent polls show most Americans are against the plan. A good stimulus should have infrastructure improvements and tax cuts. Nothing more, nothing less.

John McCain and company is trying to reclaim fame by opposing him.

And John will be in Germany when it is time to vote. But he was the senator who missed the most votes since he's been in the office, why stop now?

John W........While I would like to think there is time to get this perfect there are 2.6 million people who have lost there job last year. The last report was over 600,000 more. Now you add the fact that to stay afloat we were supposed to add over 200,000 we are off by over 800,000. Quite frankly I don't think these people would get it right if they spent 2 years. There are such differences in ideology and so much partisan politics and no one wants to give. I think we have to stop the nit picking at some point. I have heard people who shout nothing but pork use issues like the TV conversion money as an example but no one mentions that the government stands to make over 12 billion from selling the available spectrum to businesses. I don't care if they have 500 million to paint trash cans, it puts people back to work painting them, cleaning them, picking them up, delivering them back whatever. The reason people seem reluctant is they are weary of using our tax dollars in numbers like this after the last bailout and the opponents of this are the only ones talking. The media uses this conflict as it makes good copy. Point in fact.....can you even tell me what is in the bill as of yesterday? They have removed many things, changed many things but we still hear pork and bringing up examples of the STD and Anti-smoking part which was already removed. The tax break that the republicans want so bad and are willing to hold this up in their own words amounts to $13 a week in their paycheck. Now you tell me what that will do right away for us? Now...have mistakes been made? certainly! Quite frankly I believe Pelosi and Ried are part of the problem. They seem as though they didn't get the bi-partisan memo and need to climb off their pedestal and get with the program. We are ALL hurting and we need ALL the politicians to compromise a little.

C'mon, Barry, the solution is simple -- JUST CUT OUT THE PORK! Wagging your finger at the Republicans will get you (and the nation) nowhere.
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Spending that doesn't create or preserve jobs will not stimulate the economy. Tax cuts and PRODUCTIVE spending are what is called for.
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"The American people are watching...'' You got that much right, Barry, and they see you screwing up.

John W........While I would like to think there is time to get this perfect there are 2.6 million people who have lost there job last year. The last report was over 600,000 more. Now you add the fact that to stay afloat we were supposed to add over 200,000 we are off by over 800,000. Quite frankly I don't think these people would get it right if they spent 2 years. There are such differences in ideology and so much partisan politics and no one wants to give. I think we have to stop the nit picking at some point. I have heard people who shout nothing but pork use issues like the TV conversion money as an example but no one mentions that the government stands to make over 12 billion from selling the available spectrum to businesses. I don't care if they have 500 million to paint trash cans, it puts people back to work painting them, cleaning them, picking them up, delivering them back whatever. The reason people seem reluctant is they are weary of using our tax dollars in numbers like this after the last bailout and the opponents of this are the only ones talking. The media uses this conflict as it makes good copy. Point in fact.....can you even tell me what is in the bill as of yesterday? They have removed many things, changed many things but we still hear pork and bringing up examples of the STD and Anti-smoking part which was already removed. The tax break that the republicans want so bad and are willing to hold this up in their own words amounts to $13 a week in their paycheck. Now you tell me what that will do right away for us? Now...have mistakes been made? certainly! Quite frankly I believe Pelosi and Ried are part of the problem. They seem as though they didn't get the bi-partisan memo and need to climb off their pedestal and get with the program. We are ALL hurting and we need ALL the politicians to compromise a little.

The number of jobs lost in Jan. just came out......another 600,000 jobs. Is a pink slip the only thing that will help stoke a fire?

MJ....please tell us what pork remains in this bill as of yesterday.

Hey Barack, news flash:

YOU WON THE ELECTION. Both houses of Congress and the White House. YOU DON'T NEED A SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTE. If this bill is so great for America, pass it already and quit your pathetic whining. This isn't a matter of Republican obstruction. It's a failure of your own miserable leadership.

Obama using fear, not hope, to sell the Obama/Dem plan. For a plan that's not ""stimulus" so much as it is "porkulus". Can we call this the "Audacity of Fear"?

Charles Krauthammer's column in today's Washington Post nails the "porkulus" bill to the wall.

Vast and dissent/Bruce.....how nice of you to point out dem this and dem that. I didn't hear one F*&^$ing word about the 3 million out of work or the 3.5 due to lose their jobs this year.

Vast.....if my memory serves me well, the republicans had complete control of government 6 out of the last 8 years. So nice to play Ponchus Pilate and wash your hands of the whole mess. Good job! Keep playing politics and maybe when you get your pink slip you may want our politicians to compromise.

Hope the GOP is too smart to fall for Obama and his TAX CHEATS..

Hope the GOP is too smart to fall for Obama and his TAX CHEATS..

Posted by: Inky | February 6, 2009 9:20 AM

Help wanted: Bumper stickers need not apply.

Bill R....The economy only began to crater about 12 months ago....roughly 12 months after Democrats took control of Congress. Coincidence?

First, Bill, it's "Pontias", not "Ponchus" you twit.

Second, you're completely ducking the real issue. What happened under Bush is so much ancient history. The Messiah is here with Hope and Change... and a decisive majority in both house of Congress. So why does he care a hoot in hell whether Republicans like this bill? He doesn't need them.

Or does he?

Obama needs the political cover of being able to call this Porkzilla bill "bipartisan" when it explodes the national debt and fails to deliver any stimulative effect. If he really believed in his own bill, he would just ram it through and take all the credit for it. That's leadership, but Obama knows nothing about such things. He's just another crass, weasly little political hack. Hope and Change my arse.

Spending for the sake of spending is not the way to turn the economy around. While I have not seen the most recent version of HR1, I seriously doubt that much has really changed from the original. And please explain to me how funding NRP, NEA, community service groups, etc. have anything to do with stimulating the economy. Giving huge bailouts to states that have let their budgets grow unrestricted over the past several years is not going to stimulate the economy. Funding SCHIP (HR2) will not stimulate the economy. Historically, large government spending programs do not help. Why? Because the money they spend can only come from 3 places: taxes, borrowing, printing. Increasing taxes will almost certainly result in a deeper recession or even depression. Borrowing...oops...that's what we as a country (mostly on the consumer front) have been doing for the past 15 years..which is one reason we are where we are today. And besides, do we really want the Chinese to own more of the US? Printing money....easy to do, but don't forget that wheelbarrow full of money you will need to buy a loaf of bread.

If the Feds are going to spend....it has to be targeted/focused. Throwing money out there and hoping something happens is not the right path.

Posted by: Hey Joe | February 6, 2009 1:43 AM
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I noticed in the last week or so that you've discovered a glossary of psychology terms, John E. Too bad you don't know what they mean.

Bill R. wrote: "I didn't hear one F*&^$ing word about the 3 million out of work or the 3.5 due to lose their jobs this year."


Are you really naive enough to think that Obama and Pelosi give a rip about this? Step away from the Kool-Aid, big guy. If they really cared about the huddled masses of the downtrodden, they would have written a dramatically different bill that actually stimulates the economy instead of just paying off their cronies and buying future votes with more welfare programs.

You know, Bill, it's millions of guys just like you who cause me to worry about the future of this country. Hope you're happy with your Messiah. You deserve him. Sadly, the rest of us also have to live with the inevitable consequences of your choice.

Vast....Nice. Now I know who to go to if I need an anal retentive spell checker.
So Bush is long gone huh? I won't waste my time.....I've had better conversations with plants.

Bill R....The economy only began to crater about 12 months ago....roughly 12 months after Democrats took control of Congress. Coincidence?

Posted by: scottiesrule | February 6, 2009 10:21 AM

This is probably also a waste of time...but....The housing market was the start of our problems. The bubble burst in the end of 05' so mistakes that were allowed to happend had to begin long before that. What you felt in the last 12 months all come from mistakes made long ago. But if it makes you feel good....go for it.

Bill, you're proving yourself to be just as pathetic as I thought, running away from the debate instead of being man enough to answer the tough questions.

Let's try again: Why does Obama, with his decisive majorities in both houses, need Republicans on board with this bill?

If Obama wants to become remembered like Lincoln and FDR, then he must realize that they did not care for the bipartisan approach in times of domestic crises. They unified the country behind them and got things accomplished by breaking down their opponents.

Obama claims he's bipartisan. He'll listen to any idea that is 100% liberal orthodoxy that also helps him build a full-time political army by giving money to groups like ACORN. If you can come up with an idea like that he'll listen to you. What a post-partisan!

Bill R....you are correct....almost 3 million jobs have been lost in the past 12 months and we could see another 2-3 million go this year. My company is cutting back and I may lose my job any day. That does not make me want to jump on the bandwagon in support of HR1. Why? Because it is not going to work! It literally is that simple. The economy is bloated due to all that consumer debt we have piled on during the past 15-20 years. That is what allowed us to enjoy a few nice runs of 6-7 years before mini-recessions popped up. Unfortunately, that kind of consumer spending, fueled in large part by an out of control housing market and fairly loose monetary policy (Bush, Clinton, Bush), was doomed to crash and burn. So how do the Democrats in Congress want to fix it....let's throw more money at it and borrow/cheat/steal/print to do it. Not sure where you received your financial or economic training, but my experience and training (finance & accounting) tells me this is the absolutely wrong way to go. And, history more or less backs me up. Rampant spending by Hoover helped to create the 1930's collapse and FDR's spending spree resulted in the depression lasting longer than it did. The 1970's were not much better under Carter. How about the Japanese real estate debacle of the 1990's. They did the same thing....spending, loose money...and it took them over 10 years to work their way out.

It is shameful that the President of the United States is using the economic crisis facing this country as a smokescreen to handout billions of dollars to his political party's donors in the unions and groups like ACORN. I have never been more embarassed in my life to be an American.
This man admitted yesterday that he truly believes that government spending is the only thing that can save our economy. He's as ignorant of economic history as he is of the number of states in the union.
Members of congress must stand strong and NOT allow the current economic turmoil to be used as an excuse for a massive, unnecessary government expansion that will only make the situation worse.

Throw all logic out the window and simply focus on what Rahm Emmanuel said last fall. I am paraphrasing here, but the idea was simple....they, the Obama White House, would use the fear and anxiety of the financial crisis to get their agenda through. In a sense, it was a once in a lifetime opportunity. I realize all politicians do this to some degree. They all attach riders to important bills hoping to sneak the extra dollars through. But here is an administration that is out there in our faces, telling us they will use this opportunity to take extreme measures to put their political agenda through, without ever even suggesting that the American people wanted it or that the agenda was even the right thing to do. Arrogance? Elitism? Was this the change those who supported Obama wanted? Somehow I don't think so. There is an old adage in business that I use on a daily basis....if the deal is good for me today, it will be just as good tomorrow after I have had the chance to think about it. When a car salesman tells me his best price is good right then and there, I usually use that as my cue to leave. Nothing in this bill is so important that it can't be reviewed in the light of day. The more and harder Democrats push for this spending, the more we as the taxpayers should be pushing back.

From Bill R....This is probably also a waste of time...but....The housing market was the start of our problems. The bubble burst in the end of 05' so mistakes that were allowed to happend had to begin long before that. What you felt in the last 12 months all come from mistakes made long ago. But if it makes you feel good....go for it.

You are correct...although not necessarily in your timing. But who do you think is to blame for the housing collapse? Bush? You can't be that ignorant, right.

If anyone is driving off a cliff its the Democrats led by Pelosi and Reid. Pelosi says she don't want to burden
the public with a taxes down the road, is she living on this planet? That's exactly where we are going and our children and grandchildren will foot the bill. And quite possibly the following generation.

But who do you think is to blame for the housing collapse? Bush? You can't be that ignorant, right.

Posted by: scottiesrule | February 6, 2009 11:22 AM

In my mind....which can be a scary place sometimes.....the problem was greed and disregard of good lending practices in the credit markets. I do believe the powers to be at the time either neglected or missed completely what was going on. Could this have been a political decission....very possible. An economy that on the surface appears "healthy" but based on faulty decissions still appears "healthy".

You know, Bill, it's millions of guys just like you who cause me to worry about the future of this country. Hope you're happy with your Messiah. You deserve him. Sadly, the rest of us also have to live with the inevitable consequences of your choice.

Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspirator | February 6, 2009 10:41 AM

So you want poor pathetic me debate this? I have a better chance of getting pregnant.

All I'm asking for is an answer to one simple question: Why does Obama, with his decisive majorities in both houses, need Republicans on board with this bill?


Since Bill won't give me one, is there even one single leftie out there who can answer this?

All I'm asking for is an answer to one simple question: Why does Obama, with his decisive majorities in both houses, need Republicans on board with this bill?

Since Bill won't give me one, is there even one single leftie out there who can answer this?

Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspirator | February 6, 2009 12:26 PM

Sure dork, I'll give you an answer. Obama doesn't NEED the Repugnicans on board, he WANTS them on board as a bi-partisan bill will have the benefit of having more of the country behind it and therefore, a slightly better chance of working faster than the alternative. He's giving you dunces a chance to get on the bus. You choose instead to just obstruct, duck and cover. I'm happy with that. You and your Con buddies just look more and more like what you are, obstructionists who care more about bringing your enemy down than propping your country up. Soon enough you'll be eating your words...AGAIN. Losers!

ROTFLMAO. Oh Frankie, Frankie, you slay me. Excuse me while I wipe away the tears of laughter. That Kool-Aid must be some potent stuff indeed.

Come on, Frankie boy, surely you can't be that naive. Obama doesn't want this bill to be "bipartisan" in any more than name only so he can foist some of the blame onto the Republicans later when it inevitably fails to deliver the promised stimulus. He and Comrade Pelosi got caught with both hands in the cookie jar with this Porkzilla bill. It also didn't help that the CBO ratted them out. Rather than draft a real stimulus bill, they thought they could ram the original one through without anyone noticing what's in it by using the very fearmongering tactics they condemned in Bush. And now that they've been totally busted and the electorate is spitting mad, the Dems are scrambling for political cover. Obama a genuine centrist? Puh-leeze. Wakey wakey, big guy.

Obama doesn't want this bill to be "bipartisan" in any more than name only so he can foist some of the blame onto the Republicans later when it inevitably fails to deliver the promised stimulus.
Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspirator | February 6, 2009 1:44 PM

Wow...how cleaver that Obama....I never even saw it. He is going to pass a bill that he knows won't work and convince a few republicans to get on board so he can blame them. I never even saw it!!!!! Maybe if he were real smart.....he could let the republicans pass a bill with everything they want and........oh...no...that won't work.....the people have already voted their loss of confidence in the republican ideology. Darn!!!!!

Well, Billy Boy, it's real simple. This is Comrade Obama's bill from beginning to end, even if a little pork gets trimmed around the edges. Either it stimulates or it doesn't. We'll know in about a year. Then we'll see if you're still quite so brash. My guess is you will be, not because Porkzilla accomplished anything useful (I expect it to do just the opposite), but because you evidently lack the good sense to be any other way.

You were so right, Bill! Trying to have an adult conversation with Vast Right Wing Loser IS a complete waste of time...but, since I'm already here...
Get up off of the floor and try not to judge Obama by the standards set by your failed President. Bush & Co. proving to be thieves, liars & war-profiteering criminals (soon to be prosecuted) has apparently soured your sunny disposition. Has it occured to you that your guys had 8 yrs. to prove that your BS policies could work and failed, miserably! We're driving now. You & your failed policies lost. Get used to it! Now we get to see if our side can salvage the ship you tried to sink. It would be easier if we just threw your sorry butts overboard, but we're not like that...like you. It may not even be possible, after the damage you've done, but we'll try anyway and if we succeed, you'll still be crying foul like the petulant losers you are. You and Rush! I've made a bundle betting on Obama against you dummies and I've got another bundle on the line. Too bad I don't know you personally as I'm sure I'd have another couple hundred in my pocket now if I did and I'd sure enjoying betting on O vs. you. I love you idealogues. You're so easy. Gotta go, my Obama-aide is getting warm.

Tired policies? We haven't even tried those yet (tax cuts, but we have tried stimulus policies). And how many times did he actually vote for the previous administrations policie?

Tired policies? We haven't even tried those yet (tax cuts, but we have tried stimulus policies). And how many times did he actually vote for the previous administrations policies?

Beth=concern troll...ignore

I feel sorry for Obama. He indeed did inherit a huge mess, but I also feel sorry for him because he is proving himself to be as economically ignorant as most of the population is. I'm neither a Democrat or Republican, but I do understand the laws of economics, and like you will quickly understand the consequences of the laws of gravity if you jump off a 10-story building, we will soon feel the full blunt of this 'stimulus' on top of the 90 years of the Federal Reserve and 35 years of fiat currency. Hope you are all prepared for what will be massive pain on this country.