Obama's five-day rule: Broken again

From reading this, Obama's change is crumbling more ever day.

OK Americans, SCHIP needs to be funded - Buy a pack of cigarettes a day. It's for the Children.

Rebecca, you don't think that millions of children without health insurance is an emergency? Many pound- foolish states are trying to drop coverage of children and skimp on treatment for the unborn. Obama by signing this bill has averted a national disaster!

From reading this, Obama's change is crumbling more ever day.
Posted by: Inky | February 4, 2009 4:13 PM
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I see the corporate media and their uneducated minions (Inky) are back to fulltime spouting propaganda for their Republican overlords. While I agree that this is technically a violation of that particular promise, but this isn't a new bill--it was already voted on last year, and has been in the works for months since. I presume that the 5-day period is supposed to start from the point that the bill actually passes both the House and Senate.

It's hardly a controversial bill, either, so I'm willing to cut Prez Obama some slack on it. things change in between the time spent in office and the campaign. Also, there's political barriers and the opposition trying to stop you. Public opinion is dynamic as well, always shifting and emphasizing new issues while forgetting others.

Politics isn't a meritocracy by any means, but most elected officials do make at least a token effort to fulfill their promises. They do have to worry about re-election, after all.

Inky, your right on again! Must be another waiver, surely he has not reneged on a promise. Oh, there was a tax increase which will be regressive on the poor and lower income. "Cool"!

The TelePrompTer is back, can't miss those talking points and Axel propandga! Did he say that it was his job to see that government took care of every single American child? Did we leave out those poor children of illegals seeking a better life? Any of you lefties know? Anyway, I just called to initiate canceling my grandkids private health plans, which I pay for but no longer have to since the nanny state is now picking up the tab. Thank you very much.

I'm so proud that the mainstream media is holding the president accountable for his broken campaign promises. However, if he were to lie to start a war or violate the Geneva Conventions or illegally spy on Americans or let a US city be destroyed, that would all be a-ok.

Did we leave out those poor children of illegals seeking a better life? Any of you lefties know? Anyway, I just called to initiate canceling my grandkids private health plans, which I pay for but no longer have to since the nanny state is now picking up the tab. Thank you very much.

Posted by: Bubba Porter | February 4, 2009 5:42 PM
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I would like to know that some child, somewhere in the country's life is saved because s/he finally had insurance, before having the President toe totally to the line of a promise to put legislation up to 5 days of scrutiny.

Same for a woman winning a lawsuit because he signed the Ledbetter act before posting it for scrutiny.

Please, people. Get some perspective. The reason no one is listening to Rethug trolls like "Bubba Porter" is because they see through the smokescreen that Rethugs like him want Obama and the country to fail so that they may come back into power. It's their only hope and as usual, they don't give a damn about the countries well-being

Seriously, this is nitpicking of the highest order. Yes, I'd like to see the bills posted for comment before signature but the two referenced are "old" and long available for review.

I'm sure it'll be rectified but c'mon. He's got a lot more on his plate and is doing a bang up job compared to the atrocities of the last administration.

Oh, and I love the hand wringers and obvious trolls (Bubba Porter/Jeff) who want to hold Obama to a 8th plane standard when they weren't yelling about what Bush was doing 8 years prior.

From reading this, Obama's change is crumbling more ever day.
Posted by: Inky | February 4, 2009 4:13 PM
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I see the corporate media and their uneducated minions (Inky) are back to fulltime spouting propaganda for their Republican overlords. While I agree that this is technically a violation of that particular promise, but this isn't a new bill--it was already voted on last year, and has been in the works for months since. I presume that the 5-day period is supposed to start from the point that the bill actually passes both the House and Senate.

It's hardly a controversial bill, either, so I'm willing to cut Prez Obama some slack on it. things change in between the time spent in office and the campaign. Also, there's political barriers and the opposition trying to stop you. Public opinion is dynamic as well, always shifting and emphasizing new issues while forgetting others.

Politics isn't a meritocracy by any means, but most elected officials do make at least a token effort to fulfill their promises. They do have to worry about re-election, after all.

Posted by: Von | February 4, 2009 4:40 PM
You need to repeat the eigth grade.

Another day, another Obama lie.

Hmm... was everyone fooled?

Hey, lying is all good when it's for the greater good.

Sieg heil, baby.

Inky, you need to get into the 8th grade before you crack wise.

SCHIP was something Republicans quashed. The majority of America wanted it.

Could have been the republicans helping kids. It was not. Such is the path republicans chose.

See America by the majority minus the republicans actually want to do something to keep kids alive and healthy. But hey complain about the 5 days. Back at you on the years you chose to fail.

Von, it is a bad bill because you are taxing cigarette's (which have nothing to do with children's health care). More people will quit (look at the smoking rates in areas with high cig tax) or buy bootleg cigs thereby cutting into funding of the program. People who already have health care will drop it and get the free one (see Hawaii's government health care plan last year). Let's not forget that the Dems are looking to spend 300 million to get people to quit smoking in the Stimulus package. For all those reasons it's a bad bill. Smoking will not end up paying for most of this bill. Something else will that is TBD later.

Why only smokers pay for children's health insurance? How about non-parents pay for it? Yeah, that's fair and would mean more revenue as there are more single people than smoker's. Why pick on smoker's. They're a dying breed and getting smaller in numbers but the cost of this program will grow. Liquor/beer drinkers you are next!!

Obama should be in jail. He's just another Blago.

1. Don't make excuses. It makes you look like you don't understand English or that you have no integrity. If Obama said "five days", everyone understood it to mean five days -- not "two if it's an emergency (and everything's an emergency)", not "four" or "three". He meant five, and he's broken that promise.

2. If you want to be generous, be generous with your own funds.

3. America doesn't have unlimited resources, and we certainly don't have enough to care for every poor person who crosses our borders illegally. Let's say we take care of America's poor first. Oh, wait. We've been trying that since the Great Society, and that hasn't worked. Why not go for the ultimate failure and try to take care of Mexico's poor too?

1. Don't make excuses. It makes you look like you don't understand English or that you have no integrity. If Obama said "five days", everyone understood it to mean five days -- not "two if it's an emergency (and everything's an emergency)", not "four" or "three". He meant five, and he's broken that promise.

2. If you want to be generous, be generous with your own funds.

3. America doesn't have unlimited resources, and we certainly don't have enough to care for every poor person who crosses our borders illegally. Let's say we take care of America's poor first. Oh, wait. We've been trying that since the Great Society, and that hasn't worked. Why not go for the ultimate failure and try to take care of Mexico's poor too?

Sigh - the FISA court said the wireless intercepts are A-OK and Obama is going to use them. Rendition is cool again too, and he was more than ready to bomb Pakistan (an ally btw).

If after 2 years of escalating Obamania and the adulatory press coverage of the inauguration you still think there's a republican overlord in charge of the media, there's no hope for you.

Alabama Andy - where were you for the past 8 years-???? Yeah you and your buddies were nitpicking everything , now you pussies cry foul. Get used to it - the messiah has some red clay on his feet and Nancy Pelosi is bitching that he is getting the carpet dirty. Governing is different than crying that life isn't fair. We can only hope that Putin doesn't take BO to the woodshed.

Did anyone else notice that the new version of SCHIP covers "children" up to 35 yrs. old as long as they are in school/college. Ah, the Peter Pans out there. Smoke on.

Is anyone really surprised at this point? The NY Times reported today that Obama democrat Charlie Rangel has been cheating on his taxes for 30 years. 30. And he's in charge of the committee that writes the tax code:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/nyregion/05rangel.html?_r=1

yeah. it's an emergency when couples making well over $100,000 per year can't afford health insurance for their 30-year old "children" which is who this socialist program covers.

The majority of smokers are poor,middle class or un-educated. When they stop smoking and there isn't enough tax money to cover this socialist program...they will just find another way to find the money...like tax the non-smokers.

Paulo

Hey, what about Obama's five-day rule?

He has transcended time.

REBECCA---GLAD YOU GOT YOUR G.O.P./FOX 'SNOOZE' TALKING POINTS AGAIN FOR YOUR STUPID HEADLINE.
Children's health care (poor kids, anyway) about to be GUTTED by states (like the one that deposed blago) apparently isn't an emergency.
TO YOU.
Shame on you!
I'm sure you pleased your editor, though.

It would be useful if reporters would ask Obama about this -- though I certainly appreciate being informed of yet another of his broken pledges and promises.

"However, if he were to lie to start a war or violate the Geneva Conventions or illegally spy on Americans or let a US city be destroyed, that would all be a-ok."

Bush didn't do any of those things. You are a drone.

Paul said: [[I'm so proud that the mainstream media is holding the president accountable for his broken campaign promises. However, if he were to lie to start a war or violate the Geneva Conventions or illegally spy on Americans or let a US city be destroyed, that would all be a-ok.
Posted by: Paul | February 4, 2009 5:44 PM]]

Paul -- we have much of a STATE, not a city, in crisis (Kentucky, ice storm, no power for millions) and no one much seems to care. Certainly no one is holding Obama responsible for the response, as Bush was for Katrina. Where is your outrage?

Helping kids? Hah! SCHIP has been expanded now so that it covers kids and adults making 4x the poverty rate. Some states now have waivers to extend it to families making over $80k per year. This is just socialized medicine through the back door. And guess how it's going to be paid for as cigarette sales continue to decline? Yep, the American workers. We're killing the goose that laid the golden egg. As Maggie Thatcher once observed: "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." Just so.