Obama's Notre Dame visit draws protest: The Swamp
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Chicago Tribune
Posted March 25, 2009 9:29 AM
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by John McCormick

SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- President Barack Obama's planned visit to the University of Notre Dame this spring has triggered a national debate over whether such a prominent supporter of abortion rights should be welcomed at one of America's premier Catholic universities.

Obama's decision to speak at the school's May 17 commencement is generating strong feelings on all sides, with supporters saying he should be welcomed as the nation's leader and opponents saying he should be shunned because of his views.

As the leaders of campus groups upset about his selection prepared to meet Tuesday evening to map out opposition plans, abortion opponents from across the country said they were making plans to travel here for the commencement.

The prospect of graphic abortion photos lining areas leading into the ceremony, meanwhile, has some students fearing that their day of accomplishment will be tarnished.

The rest of the story is in Wednesday's Chicago Tribune.

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Notre Dame alumni are absolutely bat #*&$ and should be kept from putting on a nasty display. Or not. Let them show their true colors (or lack thereof). yes. I find them racist.


Abortions in this country are legal, so deal with it hypocrites. But people are entitled to their view and they can protest. If they want to display graphic abortions photo's let them. As was the case with Boy George Bush (who drew protestors at every event he attended), all protesters should be fenced off and kept blocks away and out of view from the main event.


I am a catholic myself, and believe that there has to be a time where we truly separate church and state....

Let Obama be the leader we need, even if we don't agree on everything!

Rick
The Last Resort Panama


What escapes those who protest Obama's selection as commencement speaker is that he has a reasoned ethically founded position on abortion. The anti-abortion movement is under a misconception that those who wish to permit abortion (no one favors abortion) are morally depraved. Unless the ant-abortion group plan to return to violence and exterminate those willing to permit abortion the practice will continue.

It is important to listen to Obama since he more than most of his stripe feels that minimizing the practice is part of the obligation of those not wishing to ban the practice.

The plenitude of opinions on abortion from those who consider themselves to be religious is the best reason I can think of as to why a discusion and not a fervent tirade on this subject is needed.

We can never overcome our own misconceptions of what G/D wants (for none of us knows no matter how hard the protest to the contrary) but we can come to a settlement on how to minimize the practice, even if women's G/d given right for control over their bodies and the horribleness of unnecessary loss of human life is abrogated to some extent in the process.


Notre Dame made the mistake of inviting Obama in the first place. Obama has no business addressing a Catholic university.

I hope more Catholics - all of them - will oppose this. Obama is not fit to advise graduates on anything. Any Notre Dame student who sits through an Obama speech at commencement should consider the value of his degree to be cheapened. Obama is an amoral fraud.


Time for ND alums to vote with their pocketbooks....by keeping them closed when the university calls for donations. At least until Notre Dame remembers that it is a Catholic institution and that Obama is opposed to some of the basic tenets of Catholic beliefs, particularly the valuing of human life at every stage.


do not let the school become hypocrital. please ban obama from speaking at this sacred institution.


say no to obama speaking at that great university


I hope they are as vocally opposed to the Bloodbath in Baghdad !! I don't think their God supports the killing and maiming of innocent men, women and children,either in Gaza or Baghdad !! That's another issue, though, right !!?
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.


Oh, Jill--get back to the nunnery--there are PLENTY of pro-choice Catholics who don't agree with the cranky old man in Rome


Wow, I never knew Irish Americans were so racist? Actually I did. The second rate University of Notre Dame should feel honored to have President Obama speak there. Obama should dumb down his speech... After all, these students are not well educated.


BLAH BLAH BLAH,,,, All of you whimps out there could not take one look at what abortion really looks like. Baby killer. Put it plain .. What is Baracks stand on parchial birth abortion...... he favors that too. Let's stabb that baby when it's halfway out of the womb or just stab it when it's laying on the table. Come on lets see if ND ' s VP Chandra Johnson is still bald from Tyron's firing. Or will you shave for a baby's life......
Here comes Socialism,,,,yall voted for this Adolf,......


I would like to protest strongly invitation to Barack Obama from Notre Dame to speak . I have serious issues with his views on abortion infanticide and stem cell research . Why would you expose young Catholics to this nonsense ,


Frist of all, Father Jenkins should be excommunicated and then fired from the University for his distardly act. By inviting Abortion/Infantacide Obama to Notre Dame, then Jenkins and his cronies are in essence participating in furthering the cause of abortion. That is Sick and Deplorable!

Students at the commencement exercise should be like the apostles of Christ and stand up for the faith at any cost. The way evil overcomes good is when good people do nothing! There is no risk to students and parents who choose to stand up throughout Obama's speech as a form of protest. Maybe Abortion/Infantacide Obama might get the message that he cannot just dismiss the moral right of Catholics to profess our Catholic faith and at the same time it is an opportunity to protest abortion and the use of aborted baby stem cell research by taking such action.

Students and parents it is now time for each of you to choose what is important to you - your Catholic faith or just being quiet and being rolled over by Abortionist/Infantacide Obama.


Speak yes. Honorary Degree:
NO WAY! He hasn't done anything for anyone yet to justify it. 3-4000 White crosses on the lawn, like I have seen before commemorating the innocent and have to walk by it with an explanation; absolutely.

To you ND grads that that speak with so much anger over silly politics and disgust for others' views, especially when they come down on the side of innocents and morals: you are a disgrace to ND


i regret that the university will have obama at your graduation, at this point i am ashamed to call myself a catholic.the values i had as a catholic are just not there anymore or are they?


If you don't believe in the sanctity of life, how can you call yourself Catholic? Christian? A follower of Jesus Christ? By supporting Obama's attendance, you are supporting his views about the sanctity of life. No matter what he says, he does not believe in it - actions are stronger than words. I agree that a woman has the right to her body but a baby is NOT part of her body – it is a separate person. Obama’s support of abortion and embryonic stem cell research is anti-life and is anti-Catholic. He should not be allowed to speak.


I am an anti-abortion Catholic who also happens to be the parent of a ND graduate this May. I strongly disagree with Obama's views on abortion, but I also respect the fact that he is our president.
I would like to celebrate the accomplishments of my daughter, which is the purpose of his visit.


I wouldn't be able to celebrate the accomplishment of my daughter if they had someone whose philosophy is the antithesis of most Catholic beliefs, giving the commencement address. It would SPOIL the occasion.
Not to mention giving such a person a platform and the honor of delivering the commencement speech is terribly confusing and sends mixed messages to Catholics. Heck, I'd be darned angry if my daughter's Catholic school were going to use my daughter's graduation, as an opportunity to advance an evil, socialist agenda.

But I suppose ignoring how wrong it all is, is easier than dealing with it and doing something about it.


Actually, I believe there are several points here. 1. The president of the University I believe should withdraw the invitation He almost certainly has a clause in his contract that would stop him from doing anything that could damage the University. If so he should resign or be fired for his thoughtless decision. 2. Iff he does not withdraw the invitation then Catholics the country over should schedule a Tea Party on the day of the commencement in order to make clear that President Obama's decisions are a crime against Humanity. I believe the Democrats have said it themselves, "One should not waste the opportunity" to voice their outrage.


Father Jenkins:

First and foremost I am a Christian and a Methodist. I have always admired the Catholic Church having certain social issues that they never budge on. That is why I am angered and saddened that Notre Dame is not only going to have Obama as a speaker but also will grant him an honorary law degree. This is adbomination to God and also to Catholic beliefs. Please rescind your invitation to the president.


This is absurd. Where was all the fuss when the catholic priest were molesting young boys. Dont let our president speak but keep quiet as young boys get their genitals torn out by old catholic priests?


Just to put it out there to all of you dogmatic robots. Just because someone hands you a book that says holy on it, does not make it holy. Notre Dame Students are protesting stem cell research, and abortions because they are "pro life." So what they are proposing is that instead of using stem cell research to grow new organs and help people live, we should ban it, and let them die. And as far as abortion goes, it's the choice of the woman carrying the child. Did you ever think maybe those women don't have what's necessary to feed and clothe those children, or they have no desire to have them. I know this may be hard for some of you closed minded religious types to understand, but I was in a hospital the day my father died, and a woman had given birth in the bathroom and drowned the child in the toilet that very morning, so either way if they don't want the kid they will find a way to dispose of it. This is hard for me to say because I do believe that all life is sacred, but what your proposing is to bring helpless children in to a world where they may or may not be wanted, with someone who may or may not take responsibility for them, and making them suffer. And don't give me that suffering creates compassion b/s, it creates more suffering. On another note Obama has way too much to worry about to deal with these religious protests, if you didn't want him there don't waste his time by sending the invitation.


Obama's pro-abortion view goes against everything I was taught in the Catholic church. The moat disturbing is late term abortion, which in my mind is murder not to mention his stand on stem cell research which uses human embryos (babies) as lab rats. Notre Dame should not even consider inviting him to speak or give him an honorary degree if they are a true CATHOLIC INSTITUTION.


Why would the president even want to speak at ND's commencement anyway if those supposed educated "Catholics" (and how much of this high priced school's student population and certainly how many of it's athletes subscribe to Obama's view on abortions, and for that matter, how many of them are even Catholic?) are so close-minded that they don't even want to listen to the President of the US encourage their graduates to higher service? I really doubt he's going to stand at the podium and encourage them all to rush down to their local abortion clinics! I can't believe what some of the right-wing nuts in this country can cook up! The majority of the country supports legalized abortion...and we don't go around picking commencement speakers based on that one issue....


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