White House: GOP 'party of no detail': The Swamp
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Chicago Tribune
Posted March 27, 2009 4:45 PM
The Swamp

by Mark Silva

The Republican Party has gone from the "party of no'' to 'the party of no detail,' says Peter Orszag, the White House budget director.

Fine bipartisan talk from the Obama White House, yes?

Orszag, appearing on Bloomberg Television's Political Capital With Al Hunt today, was talking about the "alternative budget'' that Republican leaders proposed this week - the counterpoint to the $3.55-trillion Obama budget for 2010 that the GOP has criticized so much.

The GOP leadership's alternative budget has been lambasted for a dearth of detail, a conceptual statement more than a blueprint.

However, Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the top Republican on the House Budget Committee, distanced himself from House Minority Leader John Boehner's document during an appearance on the Bloomberg TV program.

"There was some confusion as to what was released on Thursday -- that was not our alternative budget," Ryan said. He termed it "a broader Republican economic agenda" and said he would unveil the party's tax-and-spending plan, complete with specifics, on March 31.

Ryan blasted Obama's budget for its spending and deficits: "We cannot mortgage our children's future like the budget that we're being asked to vote on does."

But Orszag, director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, wasn't much kinder about Boehner's "budget.''

"I think it's the first budget that doesn't have any numbers in it,'' Orszag said on Hunt's show. "There is no detail. There is no specifics as to, you know, even where the deficit would be. So perhaps we've moved from the party of 'no' to the party of 'no detail.'"

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Dems are too soft on the Repubs. I'm unaffiliated, and i hear the Repugnants ripping into the dems, and all the dems say are silly things like "the party of no detail". Are you kidding me?? The dems will get a new hole to speak from once the Repugnants gain momentum! How about "The party of No Common Sense?" or the "Party of Nonsense". That sounds more like them.


Instead of a budget the Repuglicans have a crayon drawing of a bald eagle high-fiving jesus doling out tax cuts to the needy - like the wealthy upper class who make over $5,000,000 a year.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2477463660082084340gfVENv


The number ZERO brought to you by the party of NO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuAstDdFA2M&feature=player_embedded



As an independent voter, I find the Republican Party as a party that was once molded by broad principles and cooperation lead during the Reagan years to a party that is represented by politicians that are hell-bent on the ideas of exclusion of people, narrow-mindedness, extremist right wing views such as those proposed by Rush Limbaugh, and an overall inability to connect and understand mainstream America.

The GOP still believes that we are in the decade of the 50's where suspicion, fear, and adversity were the common threads of belief against anything even slightly to the left of center.

The Republicans have made it easy for the Democrats identifying themselves as people who are intolerant and reactionary.

This is the party of Lincoln?


Empty ideology. Empty threats. Empty folder with 'Budget' written on the outside. They left America with an empty tank of gas and empty pockets.

Now America needs to empty Congress of Republicans so we can get to work and fix the mess they made


This forum being the DNC Swamp, you'll never read of this AP story about Obama/Orszag's phony jobs numbers:
"State officials overseeing the federal economic stimulus program in Massachusetts say they have no idea how the White House came up with one key pledge—the promise to save or create 79,000 jobs in the state.

They say they’re not even sure how to measure saved jobs—and fear the jobs figure sets an unrealistic yardstick against which the success or failure of the program will be measured.

“The federal estimate of 79,000, we really don’t know what’s behind that, we just plain don’t,” Jeffrey Simon, Director of Infrastructure Investment in Massachusetts, told The Associated Press. “I’m not saying it’s not 79,000, but I just don’t have any way of knowing that,” he said.

Simon and his counterparts overseeing the distribution of stimulus funds in Massachusetts said concerns about the state jobs numbers were raised at a meeting earlier this month in Washington between state and federal leaders.

Massachusetts Undersecretary of Administration and Finance Jay Gonzalez also attended the Washington meeting and said other states complained that issuing job estimates undercut the administration’s vow of transparency because it was unclear where the estimates came from.

Gonzalez said he was asked at one point how he might come up with a jobs estimate and pointed federal officials to a state task force report, but cautioned them the estimate was very rough and came with “qualifications all over it.”

He said he was surprised when the state was presented with the estimate of 79,000.

“We have no idea where that number came from and now we’re going to be measured against it,” Gonzalez told the AP. “They haven’t even decided yet how they are going to require that we measure new and retained jobs.”"

DNC Swamp writers receive the AP feed, so they know of this story. Is anyone in doubt why The Swamp isn't running this story, and other AP stories, of Obama's made-up numbers?


If by budget the Republicans mean a series of poltical talking points about why they don't like President Obama's budget" then yes, that 18 page pamphlet is a "budget".


It's pathetic, but there it is, John Boner and Brittney Cantor are reduced to acting like Joe McCarthy. Wave a piece of paper in front of the cameras, make grandiose claims about what's on it and then hope like hell no one actually reads it.


And if the Republican plan was delivered by three eighteen wheelers we would now be hearing that they were the Party of TOO MUCH detail
( but that position is taken by the US Communist party...:-}) )
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It is time for a third party based on American principles...then we might reesstablish some civility in politics


The more detail generally means the more spending.
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BTW, which Congressional party has ever produced a balanced budget in the past 30 years? It sure isn't the party of Trillion $$$ deficits and Ten Trillion $$$ Debt


Yes, there's always the danger of being seen to be "piling on".

Of using excessive force.

Of not being magnimous in victory.

Etc. Usw.

But Replicans are appearing lobotomized these days, with their only mantra being

"taxes too much spends too much borrows too much".

That one is not going to work at this moment.

What with Joe Sixpack wondering when the bailout is going to extend to him.

Joe doesn't really care about spending too much and borrowing too much when survival is the issue.

And Joe certainly doesn't worry about taxing too much when there is no income to speak of to tax.

Does he?


I wonder if this will become part of our next stimulus bill? We'll see what VP Gaffe machine says about this.
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http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/story/968075.html


Dissent is Patriotic = Bruce


Given the seriousness of the ecomnomic crisis we're in, this 19-page "budget document"---reproduced by Republicans using sophisticated carbon-paper technology---is insulting, embarrassing, and so childish it made second-graders roll their eyes.


Here are the highlights of the Repubs 10-point "Roadmap to Irrelevance":
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1 - Eliminate the estate tax


2 - Drill, baby Drill


3 - Ban the gays


4 - Increase gun ownership


5 - [TBA]


6 - More Tax Cuts for the Rich


7 - [TBA]


8 - Oh! Destroy the unions!


9 - [TBA]


10 - Bomb stuff


Republicans will release their expanded plan next week, once they've gotten approval from their leader, Mullah Limbaugh. (Don’t forget to wipe the dirt off your knees when you're done, Republican Congressmen.)


Posted by: Dissent is Patriotic | March 27, 2009 6:19 PM

Not even you know what the real numbers are. The US "Statistics" are numbers made up by someone who is trying to make a close guess. Unemployment numbers are all guesstimates. All those 20 somethings who have graduated and can't find work aren't counted. People who gave up looking for work aren't counted. In my book no one's figures are correct. How could anyone possibly know?


"Ryan blasted Obama's budget for its spending and deficits: "We cannot mortgage our children's future like the budget that we're being asked to vote on does.""

The Bush administration mortgaged our children's future with the trillion he spent on a phony war in Iraq. Not to mention the "human" cost.

I'm reminded of the old business saying, "you have to spend money to make money". That is what Obama's budget proposes to do. Could it be a little much? Yes. But doing nothing is not an option.


In all seriousness, the Republican Party, since it picked McCain-Palin to run in the presidential race, have made a mockery of what it once stood for and can again. Granted, President Bush and Vice-President Cheney had already violated every reasonable standard, when it came to governing honestly, but the Republicans had a chance to reclaim some credibility, if they had been honest with the American electorate and chose reasonable, honest and principled candidates !! They went for the same, old, tired, dishonest ideology, with mouthpieces, that were missing their ventriloquists !! They didn't just shoot themselves in the foot, they shot themselves in the heart !! Now, they are still trotting out the tired, vitriolic, dishonest and the discredited " leaders " and hope that America will, again accept the nonsense that has diminished America's reputation abroad and has dismantled our, once, great economy. They have to regain a sense of reality !! I don't think they can accomplish that, with likes of Limbaugh, Gingrich, Thompson, Bennet, Gramm, Robertson and, of course, McCain and Palin !!! America will not easily forget, what the Republicans, and the Bush/Cheney tag team, have done to America, nor should we !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.


The zinger with drum set rim-shot from White House budget director Peter Orszag almost made me forget that CBO found deficits under Obama 2010 would be even higher than BO-PO predicted.


Sometimes No is all you have to say. Like when a cockamamy idea of adding trillions in new debt is floated. Look at the growing number of states with unemployment now approaching or surpassing 10%. What's Swifty Orszag and Incredibly Confident Christina have to say to that bit of news about a further deteriorating economy: When you do get back to work, you'll have even more federal debt to pay off.


Anybody that says No to trillions in new debt, moderate dems or evil republicans, needs no further explanation from me.


GOP + party of no = at list 4,130,000 Google hits

I'm not American and I think that the GOP is one of the most dangerous political party in the whole world. A bunch of dangerous clowns in a big circus tent. Scary.


Republicans = party of 'truthiness'.

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html


BTW, aren't 'our children' still paying off the Reagan deficits?
Seems to me Bill Clinton started to pay it off, but GWB stepped in just in time to put a stop to it.

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

(In case you missed it the first time)


CM,
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And we all know those deficits would never have been reduced if Newt hadn't dragged him kicking and screaming. See the 3rd paragraph.
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http://www.reason.com/news/printer/30153.html


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