White House tells China U.S. has right to be in China Sea

All the Chinese have to do is walk up to Obama and say...Boo! Obama is a gutless little coward and the world is laughing at us for putting this wimp in office!!!

Thanks to the last eight years of BushCo Republican deficit spending us into oblivion and borrowing from China to fund their wars, we can't really tell them what to do anymore.

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All the Chinese have to do is walk up to Obama and say...Boo! Obama is a gutless little coward and the world is laughing at us for putting this wimp in office!!!

Posted by: Joe | March 9, 2009 4:44 PM
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Yeah, the Neocon Rethuglican warmongers policy of shooting first and asking questions later was a great success. I can't for the life of me figure out why President Obama would want to do away with that kind of genius foreign policy.....ha ha ha!

What does a photo of Rush swimming have to do with the story?!

I would be seriously concerned if Russian or Chinese spy ships came within 75 miles of the California coastline, Hawaii, or even Guam.

So I don't blame CHinese feeling that way and reacting that way about us this near to their land

Joe - the world is laughing at us? Because a couple of Chinamen took their pans off when a US vessel went by? If you say so.

Here in the really real world, the Chinese need the US to be a viable economic resource just as much as we need them. Since the 'world economy' looks to the US, and the Chinese have gotten tremendously wealthy pimping US capitalism to the hilt there, they're just showing some economic frustration in the water - and the nautical geniuses may or may not be heard from again. They have no incentive to lean on us, but they're still sensitive to the world pressure/scrutiny of their social-life after hosting the Olympics. Good to see they've overcome the sensitivity of their shortcomings and have no problem dropping trau now. One step at a time I suppose.

Oh, fer cryin' out loud. Yes, what the Chinese sailors was dangerous and harassing. USS Chung-Hoon (an Arleigh-Burke class destroyer) has been dispatched to the area. The Impeccable is unarmed (save for small arms)- we'll see if trawlers and patrol boats will want to play games under Chung-Hoon's five inch gun.

And if you think Barack Obama is a coward, you're sincerely mistaken. He is, however, a man who thinks before he acts-- a far cry from the previous administration.

By the way, the Law of the Sea Convention, which regulates national rights in territorial and economic exclusive waters, is signed by almost every nation on Earth.

Guess which argumentative, constantly uncooperative nation is holding out, and isn't a signatory?

That's right, it's the same country that refuses to sign pretty much every other international treaty and convention. The Landmines treaty, the indiscriminate weapons convention, the cluster bomb ban, Kyoto accord... the country that reneged on the ABM treaty. The country that holds itself above the International Criminal Court. A country so cantankerous and difficult that it never even ratified its own creation, the League of Nations.

Rogue State USA, the country that - when it's not invading other countries based on trumped-up lies - loves to perform military exercises in other countries' backyards without asking permission.

All the Chinese have to do is walk up to Obama and say...Boo! Obama is a gutless little coward and the world is laughing at us for putting this wimp in office!!!
Posted by: Joe | March 9, 2009 4:44 PM
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Instead, Obama will ask Chinese help to stop corruptions in his own country, and shoot the insatiative vampire in our world.

Harrassment, haha! The US Navy openly spies on Chinese nuclear subs, armed with ballistic missiles, near the naval base of Hainan, and dares to complain about the Chinese not being amused and using legal means to block this operation? Ridiculous! The Impeccable is a spy ship, like the USS Liberty was, and equipped with the kind of active and passive sonar used for anti-submarine warfare. One can only guess what would happen if the Chinese answered with a similar provocation and deployed an intelligence gathering vessel near Kings Bay, Georgia! I'm sure this would result in an "accidental" collision with a US cruiser.

And all this just a few days after the US and China taking up talks about military cooperation again! Is someone in the Pentagon, Navy, or the NSA actively sabotaging official US foreign policy???

Obama is a gutless little coward and the world is laughing at us for putting this wimp in office!!!

Posted by: Joe | March 9, 2009 4:44 PM

I always love hearing from these cowboys. Those who's answer to every issue is violence. Bravo Tex...you tell em. I have no doubt had you been playing this game on your X-box, you would have attacked.

Jeez Joe, You have no clue do you! What is an unarmed surveillance vessel supposed to do? Obama hasn't backed down...he's telling them what every other President has ever told any country this has happened. Based on your intelligence (or lack thereof), Reagan, H.W. Bush, Kennedy, Johnson, etc were all cowards. I’m retired military and I trust Obama more than I ever trusted “W”. You need to shut up and crawl back into your hole.

This area is 10,000 miles away from America and 100 miles
from China.

If US navy ship can play in this area, so can Chinese ship.

How would you think if Chinese send Navy ship to 100 miles away from the east coast of USA?

This area is 10,000 miles away from America and 100 miles
from China.

If US navy ship can play in this area, so can Chinese ship.

How would you think if Chinese send Navy ship to 100 miles away from the east coast of USA?

The Impeccable was mapping the ocean floor with sonar. That information is used by the US navy to steer its own submarines or track those of other nations. I thought we have this data since the cold war. Does the ocean floor change its geography over the time?

China is a bully and in a very dangerous course to challenge america's supremacy on the high sea.
At this point, they are no matched to america power, but if we don't invested in the future's technologies ... they will catching up with us then we will be in more trouble.
I just feel bad for many countries around them such as Tibet, Taiwan, Vietnam and Japan because of the past history.....

All the Chinese have to do is walk up to Obama and say...Boo! Obama is a gutless little coward and the world is laughing at us for putting this wimp in office!!!

Posted by: Joe | March 9, 2009 4:44 PM

Interesting. Had Bush not over-extended us both financially and militarily (not to mention being such a massive incompetent POST-invasion of Iraq), China wouldn't dare do this. Yet you guys were there from 2001 on extolling his courage and the virtue of "making democracy available" worldwide, whether people were asking for it or not. And I seem to remember, as well, that while Bush was in office, "we" didn't give a rat's a** what the world thought of us, despite "the loons on the left" who expressed worry about EXACTLY this kind of situation. Seems to me you're getting exactly what you demanded for the past 6 years, and we're left cleaning it up for you. Thanks a BUNCH.

Obama seems to be missing an opportunity to solve the economic down turn.
The Cons always claim it was WWII that pulled us out of the GD1.
How's WWIII sound, gang?!
That's the ticket! The Republican solution!

Yes, yes. It's clearly Bush who ordered the Impeccable into International waters off the coast of China. And it's Bush who has the North Koreans' dungarees in a bundle and threatening a military retaliatory strike. It's Bush escalating the conflict in Afghanistan. Impeach Bush!

Yes, yes. It's clearly Bush who ordered the Impeccable into International waters off the coast of China. And it's Bush who has the North Koreans' dungarees in a bundle and threatening a military retaliatory strike. It's Bush escalating the conflict in Afghanistan. Impeach Bush!

Posted by: ObamabotsACTIVATE | March 10, 2009 3:14 PM

No, it's obviously NOT Bush who did any of those things. Bush only weakened us by stretching our military too thin and making it possible for the Chinese to think they could threaten us with impunity. While I certainly would have been in favor of impeaching Bush when he was in office, that possibility ended when he LEFT office. For now, I'll settle for just having investigations into what he did when he was President, with the hope of then indicting, trying, and sentencing him.

"At this point, they are no matched to america power, but if we don't invested in the future's technologies ... they will catching up with us then we will be in more trouble." - Keith

Are you serious? Do you really believe that the Chinese are "no match"? You better put the Capt. America comics away son, there are over 1 Billion people in China, and if you think the US Defense Budget is big.... The Chinese are equal or above where the US is technologically. That's not a stiff at US initiative, it's just fact.

Not that there will be any sort of confrontation, but to play your little game out, you do realize that the US is stretched paper-thin by being mired in Iraq and Afghanistan? That the US is forcing soldiers who have completed their tours-of-duty to return to Iraq or extending their tour?
What's your gameplan in this "war"? Occupy China? Spread Democracy through aggression? Over 1 Billion people genius.

OP 109,

What is it exactly, that the brilliant, transformative, electrifying, dynamic Obama cleaning up out there in the South China Sea? I thought today was the day to fix Education. He's just everywhere at once. Omnipotent, I believe the word would be. Must insert that.

LOL, okay, so what's your point, Gray, Wolfman, and especially Angus? I laugh at guys like you. I am sure you guys pipe up loudly when China resorts to military and industrial espionage all the time. I might add, that while this naval incident happened in international waters, Chinese industrial and military espionage occurs in our backyards. If you ask me, it's cumupence.

Also, Angus, before you pontificate about how evil the US is on not signing treaties, you might want to study why they have done so.

Kyoto? LMAO. Man, you guys with your full-on-hatred for Bush need to sober up. Kyoto is one of the few things the United States and Bush did right. Why on Earth would you have wanted the US to ratify a flawed treaty? Is it perhaps that you love China, India, and Russia more than you like the US? Because two of those nations were exempt from the treaty, even though at the time they were the next biggest polluters. Now they ARE the biggest polluters. Way to go left wingers! Even a dummy like Bush knew better.

The only reason why UNCLOS has not been ratified by the US is because of mineral rights distribution of the seafloor. Although it agreed with the rest of the provisions.

Sheesh, the landmine treaty. Well, if you can get North Korea to stop harassing South Korea and Japan, you might get the US to sign up. Otherwise landmines along the DMZ is pretty much keeping the aggressor, North Korea, from going South. And while I am on the subject of North Korea, perhaps if you and others can stop Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, India and others from creating nuclear stockpiles, the ABM treaty is worthless anyways.

As always, most of the comments section turns into a "blame Bush" bash. No thanks! I didn't like Bush, but I will stick to the beginning of my post, you never hear these Blame-Bush-for-everything people scream when China pulls some lame and shady practices.

THANK YOU JCARR.

The chinese have no respect for nature and no respect for anyone outside of themselves. They are a third world dirty people that need to be kept in check. It saddens me immensely how much we owe them... big mistake.