Obama's budget 'making it worse:' GOP

The economy is starting to turn, we can cancel the spendulus bill.
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Here is a link to an excellent articl that Congressman Ryan wrote on Wednesday in the WSJ.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123854083982575457.html
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Read the article and you will understand why BOs budget rec'd no republican votes

REPUBLICANS ARE AMERICA'S ENEMY WITHIN

Republicans ARE practicing seditious DEMAGOGUERY and insurrectionary OBSTRUCTIONISM intended to destabilize our economy for purposes of political exploitation.

Republicans AREN'T making a sincere effort to STOP the bleeding THEIR incompetent leadership and failed policies created. Instead, they're using conflicting economic theories as a smokescreen to conceal their subversive agenda, which is to cause President Obama and America to fail so they can blame Democrats for the consequences of THEIR calamitous mismanagement.

Republicans ARE preposterously professing that THEIR disgraceful political WHORING had nothing to do with the banking, real estate, stock market and employment catastrophes that resulted.

Republicans ARE trying to hamstring Democrats to prevent them from exposing the damage caused during a Republican presidency.

Republicans ARE offering controversial arguments they know no one can agree on to disrupt and prevent progressive change. They'd rather divide America and create political gridlock than endure the political consequences of effective Democratic governance. That's how they gained power and that's how they're trying to retain it.

Republicans AREN'T the LOYAL OPPOSITION. They ARE the ENEMY WITHIN whose personal priorities have eroded their moral and ethical standards to the point that treachery and betrayal are their preferred modus operandi.

It's one thing to advocate their conservative beliefs; it's another thing entirely to willfully sabotage America's government because a successful Democratic presidency would not be vulnerable to the greed, fears and hatreds that have produced and sustained the radical Republican corporatism and extremism that have poisoned and crippled America.

These ARE NOT the kind of people that have the determination, vision or capability to resurrect or re-invent the Republican Party with a new and or more universally appealing or supportable platform, image or ideology. In fact, they are nothing more than lunatic fringe members with very little appeal outside of their niche/minority camps. NONE of these people have broad appeal. NONE of these people can unite disparate elements of the GOP. NONE of these people garner more respect than derision. NONE of these people offer anything other than MORE OF THE SAME. I believe today's Republican Party is a sad collection of morally and ethically defective mutants, miscreants and kamikaze loyalists who are crashing and burning all things Republican.

Put the comedy routine away !! You and your Party, the Republican Party, in league with your Draft-Dodging Duo, formerly of the Executive Branch, have done all the damage !! President Obama and the Democratic Party are trying to correct your ineptitude and mean-spiritedness !! Your attacks are the same ones, that Senator McCain tried against Senator Obama, with absolutely no success !! Try supporting our new President, instead of sand-bagging him !! Sooner or later, you, Republicans, will find out, it is better to cooperate with the opposition, than to wish that they failed and work for that to happen !! That is not being a good American. It is more like being anti-American !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

"We will preserve and improve the existing Medicare program as well."

translation:

We will privatize Medicare so our buddies in Big Pharma and Big Insurance can earn bigger profits.

And yes, their plan IS to privatize Medicare. Can Social Security be far behind?

293 Members of Congress, including 20 percent of "House Republicans voted against Republican Paul Ryan’s alternate budget last night, killing the bill and sending a clear message that Americans won’t stand for more of the same failed Bush-policies and multi-trillion dollar tax cuts for the rich Ryan was proposing."
http://www.wisdems.org/release_details.asp?id=209

It's good to see that even Rep. Ryan's fellow House Repbulicans realize the folly of his budget plan

The Republican argument seems to be that rich people, who’ve been shipping our jobs oversees to enhance their personal profits for years, should be allowed to keep even more of their (our) money and pass it along to their children after they die. That the rest of us, in the name of ‘responsibility’, should settle for decreases in services and social security.

The Party of Limbaugh simply doesn’t care about the average American.

The only people this Republican "budget" helps are the rich. It permanently eliminates the estate taxes so that the children of the idle rich can continue to be both.

The GOP leadership must think that we're all as stupid as they are. I'll start believing that the Republican party is serious about actual fiscal conservatism when they put the bloated military budget on the chopping block.

Old Russian saying...You can tell same lie 1000 times but not change truth!

Difference between USSR Communist media and USA "mainstream media"

In Russia government make media say what they want - even if lie.
In USA "mainstream media" try make government what they want - even if lie..
.....eventually they become same thing?!

I Igor produce Obama Birth Certificate at www.igormarxo.org

More tax cuts for the super rich, yeah, that'll fix things!
I think the fundamental problem with the modern Republican party is that they think everyone is as stupid as they are.

More comedy from the Party of Limbaugh.

Republicans make a big show about how they're going to drop their own brand-new alternate budget proposal, packed with urban-suburban hip-hop "flava" and dance moves Eric Cantor learned at the Verizon Center, watching Britney Spears, and what do they come up with?....a COLORING BOOK!

Athena,
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Privatized is what they s/b.
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FITZ,
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Don't let the facts stand in the way of your story. It was democratic policies that led to banks making more risky home loans. It was President Bush on 9-11-03 that proposed strcicter regulations on the finanical industry, but couldn't get it past a democrat filabuster. It was Barney Frank and his lack of regulatory oversight of Fannie and Freddie (not to mention his conflict of interest of sleeping with one of the execs). It was Chris Dodd and his Friends of Angleo treatment that turned his head to look the other way on the mortgage industry.
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Sorry FITZ, as far as gov't involvment, it was your parties' lack of comptenance that has helped put this great country in this mess.
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What do you think about the Fannie and Freddie employees getting $210 million in bonuses. That's our tax money. There was outrage from the left when AIG got there's, but there is nothing but a defeaning silence about these bonuses. Where's the call for a 90% punative tax rate?
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123876318076986497.html

Osage, you have it completely backwards. For several years now, it has been the Democrats, far left and media who have been against America. Obama's and the DNC budget are not American, they are unAmerican. It triples the national debt in 10 years. In five years, Obama's deficit will surpass the entire deficit from Washington to President George W Bush. He seeks to penalize those who are successful, which will do nothing to help those that are not. His energy taxes will hurt the middle and lower classes the most. This budget begins socialism, which is not American at all. It is counter to this country and its people.

Your lies and exaggerations didn't work during the presidential elections and they will not work now !! Privatization is the baby of the Republicans and fiscal conservatives !! Wasn't it one of the Draft-Dodging Boys, Bush or Cheney, who suggested we tie S.S. to the fabulous stock market !!? It was one of the Banksters, solid Republicans, all, who said: The best way to rob a bank, is to own it !! I wish you, Republicans, would get real and get American. These Banksters have to go to jail, all of them !! One last thing, boys and girls, of the Republican persuasion, quit the lying and distorting, it does nothing for America, but hurt her !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

The Republicans have excellent ideas to help the economy recover after what Barney Frank(D) and Christopher Dodd(D) did to it. The dumbocrats just want to spend, spend and spend us into bankruptsy.
But, what else would you expect from a community organizer and a bunch of lying thieves that don't pay taxes.

Paulo

Actually FITZ, you old buddy Bill Clinton wanted the gov't to use Social Security funds and buy common stock in the lat 90's.
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Privatization would be better for all us than the 2% return the Soc Sec gives us. Go find a 40 year period where the stock market has had an annual return of 2% or less. You can't.
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FITZ, just because you have a guarenteed city pension for a do-nothing job, don't drag everyone else into your little lazy gov't job world.
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FITZ, you never have any links to support you positions. Can't even find something that goofy on the DailyKooks?

Trickled On Terri,

Americans aren't buying the Wingnuts (you) revisionist history on the downfall of our economy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY71TeYQ4s8

Are we supposed to be surprised that you can produce an article that fits your Wingnut talking points from the Murdoch Street Journal?

The party of Herbert Hoover created this economic mess and that's why they're deep in the minority now...it's not Dodd's fault and it's not Frank's fault or any other Dems fault, it's the Bush Republicans fault. Heck, W vetoed everything he didn't like during the last two years that Dems held a slim majority anyway.

You already lost this argument, that's what we have elections for, buttboy.

You,
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If you had read the article in the WSJ, you would see it was written by Congressman Ryan as an opinion piece describing the Republican budget. A responsible budget, at least in comparison to the democrats budget that will take this country toward deficits that may take generations to recover from.
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The conservatives lost the election to these folks:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8
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Party of Hoover as compared to those economic geniuses of the democratic party FDR, LBJ, and Jimmy Carter.
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You state the "party of Hoover" created this mess, but never provide any proof. It's time to step up from mom and dad's basement and be a man.

Hey 'Dilbert';
Ryan fails the Turing Test also. I smell artificial intelligence here.

To stay out of a depression we need to keep spending on stimulus. The worst thing to do now would be to pull back.

Also, Ryan fails to point out that the Dem/Obama budget INCLUDES all the military spending, which runs to hundreds of billions, IN the budget.

For years BushCo used slight of hand by keeping the emergency military appropriations off budget.

""Put simply: the Democrats' budget spends too much, taxes too much, and borrows too much from our kids and their kids." (Ryan)

'There you go again' with the 'kids' line. Get a reality clue, fool; Aren't the 'kids' still paying off Reagan's deficits? (That would be us)

Who said this, Mr Ryan?
'Reagan proved deficits don't matter.'
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'We hit the trifecta!'

1. "Privatized is what they s/b. "

Recent events on Wall St. have proved just the opposite.
Once again, you don't seem to understand the purpose of
SSec. It's social insurance for our old folks.

2. "What do you think about the Fannie and Freddie employees getting $210 million in bonuses. That's our tax money. There was outrage from the left when AIG got there's, "

I wasn't particularly angry over AIG's bonuses. Not everyone joins the torch carrying mob.



3. "Actually FITZ, you old buddy Bill Clinton wanted the gov't to use Social Security funds and buy common stock in the lat 90's."

More proof that Clinton wasn't a liberal.

After reading the comments from Obama-Pelosi-Frank supporters, gotta admit, rich people also piss me off, what with their having more money than me. The only way anyone has more money than me is because of people like Bush. I'd be wiping my behind with $100 bills after dining on foie gras if it wasn't for Bush, the evil repug b'tard.

All this grotesquely-masked class envy was explained a long time ago: For them that have little, even that little will be taken from them. The part about how those that have little actively encourage and enable the taking of that little from them was only implied, so ZOOM -- right over the heads of those supporting Obamathink.

Hope everyone trying to defend Obama-size deficits are also reading up on how Congress twisted FASB's elbow to make changes to 'mark to market'. That way they'll get a heads-up on the next thing they will have to defend later, in terms of valuation opaqueness and economic fallout.

But most importantly: SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, TRANSFER MORE OF THEM FROM IRAQ TO AFPAKIRAN, WHILE THEY ARE STILL ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

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Harry Reid: "... 50,000 [to remain in Iraq after 'withdrawal'], that’s a little higher number than I anticipated."

CM,
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Considering most of the spendulus spending does not occur until after 2009, it is time to cancel the $800 billion spending spree.
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I'm glad an ESTIMATE for the military spending in Iraq and Afghanistan is in the budget, it s/b. Does not make a difference that when all is said and done, this country will be in a much deeper whole than we are now, if we follow this large gov't spending plan of Pelousy and BO.
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You bemoan the Reagan deficits, which a pittance compared to the BO deficits. Why are BO's deficits OK.
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As far as deficits not mattering - to a point that is true. But when they get to be a large portion of GDP for a long period of time. Than it becomes an issue as debt balance will become larger than GDP.
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You don't seem to grasp the concept of compopund interest. History has shown 40 year period, the stock market performs rather consistantly. Go back and look at where the DJIA was on April 5, 1969 and then find out what the return will be to get to the current level. It's math, so I know it will take you a while.
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I see you don't know the differnce between what Clinton proposed and President Bush proposed as far as using the stock market for Social Seurity. Clinton wanted the gov't to purchase the stocks (and thus ownership of the companies), while President Bush and the oprivatizing of SocSec would let the ownership of the Soc Security funds be kept with the people that earned the funds in the first place.

In fact, Terry, just in today's Trib business section was an item saying that the lowest annual return for the S&P 500 for any 30-year period, including the periods that included the Great Depression, was 8.5 per cent. Where is the Social Security "trust fund" invested? Why, in Treasury securities that yield about 2 per cent. Brilliant.

All the lies the Republicans will tell and as often, and as many, that will still not make their lies, true !! Privatization in Veterans Affairs, is what cased the shabby way our fallen heros were treated and abused, when and if, they returned from Iraq !! On whose watch, was that program employed across the board ?? Why, the dodger boys, those culprits that avoided, serving their country, during the Vietnam War !! Those closet warriors, the dynamic, Draft-Dodging Duo, Bush-Cheney !! The same " geniuses " that wanted all the younger workers to invest in the crap-, I mean, stock-market ! That would have made for a great retirement, after seeing what the Banksters have done to most of the Corps that populate, that stinking market !! The Republican babies of the 1990's were privatiztion and deregulation, both, of which, have wreaked havoc on our economic system and our citizen's lives !! We will not forget the Republican Party's betrayal, soon, nor their lies !! Go home and apologize to your constituents, for holding your inane agenda higher than you held our American flag !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Cry baby FITZ,
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You just blather on and on w/o every inserting any facts to back up your babbling. Awake from you nap in the city dump truck under the viaduct - the ex-Gov needs you.
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BTW - How's BO doing on his promise to have the troops home in 16 months?