Unions: GOP 'Party of No'

That's what's wrong with unions.

Your dues go to promotion of candidates and parties not ALL union workers support.

Unions' head honchos are notorious for spending union funds on golf courses, resorts (that continue to lose money for the union, but provide a "club" for union elites) Examine your unions, the executive perks are outrageous and it's your dime.

Now, who made the ad? Seems like familiar wording of the Axelrod PR crowd. They must be having seizures.

Americans want elected officials to say:

"NO" to higher taxes.

"NO" to TAX (Cap) and SPEND(trade).

"NO" to gun control.

"NO" to nationalize healthcare.

"NO" to changes in Social Security.

"NO" to changes in Medicare.

"NO" to billions and billions going to foreign countries.

"NO" to terrorists.

"NO" to weakening America's defense.

"NO" to helping those who lied on their mortgage papers.

"NO" to democrats like Chris Dodd who got a "special" mortgage.

"NO" to socialism.

"NO, NO, NO!"

Guess the Tea Parties made a difference.

The unions are using dues to promote Obama's cause.

Sorry guys, you all gotta make concessions. It's happening under the Obama regime and more concessions are coming.

You guys are the ones that bled your state dry.

Suffer the consequences.

"NO" to socialism.

"NO, NO, NO!"

Posted by: Frank | April 23, 2009 8:28 AM

One thing is for certain.........America said NO to the republican party.

Oh yea, the unions that are controlled by mafia thugs are behind Obama....figures.

Paulo

You guys are the ones that bled your state dry.

Suffer the consequences.

Posted by: Goon | April 23, 2009 8:36 AM

Of course...those evil American workers. How dare they ask for anything when they have to pay 40 million a year to the CEO who year after year lost money. Leave it to republicans to defend and support failure.

One thing is for certain.........America said NO to the republican party.

Posted by: bill r. | April 23, 2009 10:29 AM

They sure did bill R... but they do not say no to conservative values- many votes for Obama were bought and paid for by the unions... now he is paying them back.

Thanks to the Obama's obligations to teachers UNIONS , NO is what the presidents daughters classmates willl be hearing when they ask if they will be able to stay in the school they have been attending-

How progressive is printing $3.5T to pay for every liberal item on the shopping list - but then defunding a SUCCESSFUL alternative to horribly inefficient and unsuccessful DC schools?

I see the losers are moaning and misleading, again !! Oh, that's right, they haven't stopped, since they were shown the door, by the American electorate !! Come on, you GOPs, let the workers unionize ! What are you afraid, that you would have to take home, less of the profits, or that the workers would gain more respect, in the workplace.
America was at its best, when more of the workforce was unionized. Unions are good for America and good for the workers ! Besides, with that $5 a gallon of gasoline, a short while ago, maybe those Corporations wouldn't mind sharing, in the form honest pay, some of the outrageous profits, that swiped from the American consumer !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, America | April 23, 2009 12:16 PM

Don- if union membership is such a great thing- why do union organizers want to take away the secret ballot? Shouldn't workers be knocking down the doors of union halls to get themselves organized? Not counting the federal government, less than 1 in 10 workers belongs to a union...

Unions have a role in this country- they are not for everyone- workers should only be subject to unionization by a fair choice, and with the dignity of a secret ballot.... not by some union tough guy meeting them in the parking lot asking to have a little chat...

Try to think a little- everything is not DEM vs REP-

One thing is for certain.........America said NO to the republican party.

Posted by: bill r. | April 23, 2009 10:29 AM

Well, yes. But, in my memory, just to name a few,

Americans said NO to the Republicans in 1964.

Americans said NO to the Democrats in 1980.

Americans said NO to the Republicans in 1992.

Americans said NO to the Democrats in 1994.

One of the great things about this country is that we can have a revolution, without firing a shot, every second November. And, historically, we've voted for the Republicans until we're sick of them, then for the Democrats until we can't take them any more, then for the Republicans, and on and on. So those who envision the Republicans as a permanent minority party are unnecessarily optimistic for their viewpoint, just as those who a few years ago thought the same about the Democrats. The pendulum swings; now it's swung over to the left, but it'll be back.

Unions have a role in this country- they are not for everyone- workers should only be subject to unionization by a fair choice, and with the dignity of a secret ballot.... not by some union tough guy meeting them in the parking lot asking to have a little chat...

Posted by: heartburn | April 23, 2009 1:03 PM

They also don't need some corporate goon firing them for helping to organize a union. They don't need their boss calling them into a conference room to intimidate them.They don't need management involved in the process at all. The employeses can still ask for the secrte ballot. Anti-union management cannot. This empowers the worker and keep management where it belongs, entirely outside the decision to unionize.

Mel,

Its the goon's company. It's the goon's capital that he is putting at risk.

If the unions think they can do a better job at running a business, why not they open one instead of extorting dues.

Why should anyone but the employer and the employee determine teh salary of the employee.

That's what's wrong with unions.
Your dues go to promotion of candidates and parties not ALL union workers support.
Unions' head honchos are notorious for spending union funds on golf courses, resorts (that continue to lose money for the union, but provide a "club" for union elites) Examine your unions, the executive perks are outrageous and it's your dime.
Now, who made the ad? Seems like familiar wording of the Axelrod PR crowd. They must be having seizures.
Americans want elected officials to say:
"NO" to higher taxes.
"NO" to TAX (Cap) and SPEND(trade).
"NO" to gun control.
"NO" to nationalize healthcare.
"NO" to changes in Social Security.
"NO" to changes in Medicare.
"NO" to billions and billions going to foreign countries.
"NO" to terrorists.
"NO" to weakening America's defense.
"NO" to helping those who lied on their mortgage papers.
"NO" to democrats like Chris Dodd who got a "special" mortgage.
"NO" to socialism.
"NO, NO, NO!"
Posted by: Frank | April 23, 2009 8:28 AM

Frank your no. no subjects are great but don't think they would magnetizes political donations.

What's right with the unions.
Your dues go to promote candidates and parties that most union workers support, even though Corporations, do not and they have their workers slipping the corporate candidates, money from the corporate coffers and all of their PACs.
We will not even compare the CEOs and their tag teams and their perks, not to mention their multi-million dollars salaries, private planes and golden parachutes !!
Now, who posted this nonsense ? Seems like the familiar ragging of a corporate shill. They must be having fits, they are going to have to be, less greedy !!
America elected politicians, in November of 2008, that said:
" Yes " to " liberty and justice for all ".
" Yes" to a fair share to the workers of America.
" Yes " to intervening in the 50-100 Million Dollar compensation, for financial Corporation executives that had destroyed their Corporations and now, looked to the taxpayer, for a bailout !!
" Yes " to being honest with the electorate and not lie, as they did about WMD.
" Yes " to higher taxes for the wealthy.
" Yes " to gun control.
" Yes " to controlling the greed of the Pharmacuticals and the Healthcare Industry.
" Yes " to saving Social Security from the Wizards of Wall Street.
" Yes " to leaving Medicare alone and fixing it, where it needs fixing.
" Yes " to stopping millions of jobs from going to foreign countries.
" Yes " to stopping the slaughter in Iraq, that has helped to create thousands of new terrorists.
" Yes " to realizing that we already have an arsenal that could annihilate the world, thousands of times over.
" Yes " to those that were lied to by mortgage lenders and banks, and credit card companies.
" Yes " to the prosecution of those Republicans that violated our laws, concerning matters, military and matters of the Justice Department.
" Yes " to a government that fights for the less fortunate in America, that fights for a healthy food distribution system and that takes good care of our Veterans !!
" Yes " to an America that allows all of her citizens a fair chance at success, not just the good old boys and their centuries-old network !!
" Yes " to an America that rejected the Republican agenda, which had said " No " to everyone, but to the wealthy and their lackeys !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Just look what they've done to the
auto industry!. The rank and file are like sheep lead to slaughter, And the
democratic leaders know it. They spoon feed them the b.s. of the day.
They actually think this president is going to lower their taxes. They must
believe in the tooth fairy.

Paul, the auto industry is an excellent example. Unions begin by addressing some real concerns, and end by destroying their members' jobs. The reason is that there is no mechanism in the union for avoiding killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. The union leader that tells his members that they should not ask for more because it'll make the company, and its workers, uncompetitive soon finds himself going back to the tools.

They actually think this president is going to lower their taxes. They must
believe in the tooth fairy.

Posted by: Paul | April 23, 2009 10:45 PM

He already has lowered their taxes. Come joing the real world.

Hey, Dave and Paul, was it the union workers with the Million Dollar salaries and private jets and platinum parachuters !!? You, boys, should come back to the real world, where men and woman are asking for a fair wage, not a bailout, like the management teams have been doing for the last year !! It's these " bosses " that need to be taken to the woodshed, not the workers !! How many union workers sank Wall Street and the financial institutions of our country ? Absolutely, none !! Give the workers a chance, take the voting apparatus, for the election of unions, in a given factory, away from the " bosses ", management, they are bigger thugs, in the union process, than the Outfit !! I know, they are bigger thieves !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

FITZ,

If the union wrokers want jets and parchutes, have them put their work effort at risk instead of punching the clpck and putting in their 40.

You have no clue on risk and reward.

Terry, what risk are the executives taking? Seriously what risk? They end up with multi-millions whether the company does well or whether it goes bankrupt. If these companies fail tomorrow, the CEO's aren't going to be wondering how to pay the mortgage, how to pay their kids tuition, how they're going to pay doctor bills or how long they're going to be unemployed. The executives are going to sit back in their mansions, light up a cigar, and decide which golf course they'll pay $200 dollar greens fees at tomorrow since they have all that extra time on thier hands. They ensure that they are covered for life. No risk for them what so ever. That's the reality little Terry, not the fantasy your bosses feed you about the "risk" they take.

Mel,

The executives are dealing with the BOD when negoitaing the salaries. The BOD represents the shareholders. I'll be the first to admit that removing a BOD member is like removing a democratic alderman from Chicago. However, shareholders always have a choice - sell the stock.

The risk is the shareholders and to the extent the executives with the shares they own have risk also.

If the employee doesn't like where they work, go find another job. If the union thinks they can run a business better - start one up.

Terry, I thought the issue was risk for the executives. You haven't pointed out any risk for them at all.

Terry, you know who negotiates the Union contracts, don't you? The executives. If they don't like paying that much, they can quit. If the stockholders don't like paying that much, they can sell their stock. It's not a one way street. If the executives think they can make cars without the workers, let them put on some coveralls and try. That should make for some good laughs.

The union autoworker has far far more risk from the failure of the company than the executives do.

Mel,

I agree with you on this - every party involved: union, executives, shareholders all have choices. The execs not have a lot of risk - assuming they have a golden parachute. My point is, in a free market society, contracts are entered into freely , not with the gov't telling us what is "fair".

I think the auto execs screwed up big time when negotiating the union contracts.

As far as running a union production line - let me tell you a story. A relative of mine was a front line supervisor on a plant of a unionized consumer products company. The union went on strike leaving production to the front line supervisors. The front line supervisors set production records. Those records were eventually broken, the next time the union went on strike by that group of front line supervisors.

Those union auto workers, or their leaders, should sit back and realize that when negoiating the contracts that the short-term victory isn't always best for the woprkers or company in the long run.