by Mark Silva
A note in passing this evening -- getting ready for the season finale of 24: The Republican Party has a lot to worry about on a lot of fronts:
"The decline in Republican Party affiliation among Americans in recent years is well documented, but a Gallup analysis now shows that this movement away from the GOP has occurred among nearly every major demographic subgroup,'' Gallup reports today.
"Since the first year of George W. Bush's presidency in 2001,'' Gallup notes, "the Republican Party has maintained its support only among frequent churchgoers, with conservatives and senior citizens showing minimal decline.''
So far in 2009, Gallup Polls show a gap party identification among those surveyedL 53 percent calling themselves Democratic and 39 percent Republican -- "a marked change from 2001, when the parties were evenly matched, according to an average of all of that year's Gallup Polls.
That's a five-point loss for Republicans and an eight-point gain for Democrats.
And the GOP's losses are largely across the demographic board.
The results come from surveys of 7,139 adults from January through April, the results carrying a possible margin of error of 1 percentage point.
And Jack Bauer is definitely for water-boarding.
(Photo of Kiefer Sutherland, who stars as Jack Bauer in 24, its seventh season in its finale this evening, by Michael Muller / FOX )









Comments
It's not about image, you GOoPer nutbags, working on your "image' is not going to help.
You wrecked the country, its budget, its reputation, and its future, with your mindless tax cuts for the rich and misguided macho defense policies.
You tried to intrude in our bedrooms and medicine cabinets. You tried to prove that government could, and would, regulate every part of my life, if you were given half a chance.
You sold US workers, and their jobs, to 3rd world countries for cheap imports and big profits.
You sold the functions of our government to the highest bidder and failed to regulate the contracts you placed.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDv4sYwjO0
You provided a rubber stamp for the Cheney/Bush Administration to politicize the Department of Justice, the Defense Department, the Environmental Protection Agency, Health and Human Services, Labor, and the State Department.
You authorized torture.
You tell the most outlandish lies with a straight face.
You make stuff up.
You frequently sound like a raving bunch of lunatics.
Do you really think a make-over is going to help? A new face on the stupid? A new suit on the broken body of ideas and morals? A recasting of the Gopasaurus as now in favor of small government, limited spending, and individual freedoms?
Sorry, Wingnuts. It's too late for that.
If you want a suggestion... lie low for a while... 30-40 years would be just about right. Give the country time to forget just a bit about how absurd your promises are, and your representatives can be. Come back in 2045, or so, and make your case.
If the Mayans had it right, we may not have to deal with you in your present form ever again.
Posted by: LoveBuzz | May 18, 2009 6:29 PM
When it comes down to 2012 and it's between Obama and the republican...none of the 58,000,000 who voted republican will vote for Obama and millions of those who did vote for Obama will switch over to the republican candidate.
The only mess up...a third party.
Republicans unite with 3rd party to reclaim American culture, ethics.
Vote out democrats who will support Obama's programs.
Posted by: Rog | May 18, 2009 6:52 PM
Since it's well-known that Mark Silva can't be trusted to report politics fairly, I took a look at the latest Gallup Poll numbers.
And guess what? The latest numbers prove exactly the OPPOSITE of what Silva asserts.
In fact, on the generic ballot question, the GOP was EVEN with the Democrats--for the first time in 4 years. See http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/Party-Affiliation.aspx for the May 7-10 numbers.
An actual journalist would acknowledge these up-to-date poll numbers.
Posted by: Bruce | May 18, 2009 7:00 PM
The GOP hitched their wagon to the Rush Limbaugh train - as Rush implodes the whole wagon train is stuck in Donner Pass. .......
http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/05/14/rush-limbaugh-is-imploding/
Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | May 18, 2009 7:08 PM
It's always been about smoke and mirrors with the Repuglican party. Their biggest problem is that in this day and age anyone with half a brain can do an internet search and find out that the GOP is full of crap in all of 2 minutes.
The last 12 years the Repuglicans have been on one long "off the hook" fear and smear campaign with no substance and lots of cool wizbang imagery and back splashes. Banners and green screens. Codpieces and air craft carriers.
Posted by: Hulk SMASH! | May 18, 2009 7:26 PM
I wonder if Jack can let lose a stray one tonight and nail Janeane Garofalo?
Ring Tone,
The GOP was sinking in 2006 - Rush isn't teh problem. the problem is the GOP trying to be democrats instead of teh small gov't conservatives they were sent to DC to be in 1994. BTW, Rush is considered to be one of the reasons the GOP took the Congress in 1994.
Posted by: Terry | May 18, 2009 7:40 PM
LoveBuzz, you nailed it!!
This poll was taken before we found out about Rummy filling baby-Bush with biblical war fantasies. Now that Americans know about the cynical manipulation of the born-twice, bike-riding nit-wit by the 'most experienced' Republican Defense and Corporate Policy team, even more Americans will deny any association with the pro-torture party.
Only now are we finding out how close we came to a religious extremist driven Armageddon. Just what the Messianic Evangelical's have prayed for. Good grief, keep these whack-jobs away from Government!
Posted by: thebob.bob | May 18, 2009 7:42 PM
Well...according to Ms. Cheney the polls she likes say otherwise...got a problem with that??? Her Dad was the best VP EVER...got a problem with that??? Maybe you'd like to meet with the guy from the Jack Bauer Power Hour!!! You'll be saying water boarding is like drinking a fine wine when he's done!!!
Posted by: lochnessmonster | May 18, 2009 7:43 PM
This ought to be a wake up call for the remaining GOP influentials who are sane...
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | May 18, 2009 7:47 PM
The GOP? They're like shape-shifting mental patients. One day they're writing on the walls with their own excrement and the next day they're found playing toetap games in a bathroom stall.
If you compare the favorable/unfavorable numbers the GOP receives (Favorable: 39%-54% Unfavorable) in the latest CNN poll and compare them to CNN’s recent survey of what Americans think about foreign countries, you’ll see Americans are bigger fans of Venezuela and Russia than they are of the GOP:
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http://www.pufferfishblog.com/weblog/2009/04/republicans-less-popular-than-venezuela.html
Posted by: DrainYou | May 18, 2009 8:03 PM
Now it turns out the GOP torture machine was turned on for political reasons; An attempt to link AQ and Saddam to justify the Iraq war and get 5000 Americans killed.
The party of desperation continues it's self inflicted nosedive.
Posted by: C.Morris | May 18, 2009 8:36 PM
The Donner (GOP) party is reaping it's just desserts.
Poor Terry, John D, et al. Come 2010 it will be even worse for you. It's starting to look like Obama's socialism and communism are actually going to work. How will you explain all that the the American people?
Posted by: TheReamer | May 18, 2009 8:41 PM
Kiefer himself is a walking time bomb. Maybe he should be not tortured, just to find out when he intends to go off next.
Posted by: C.Morris | May 18, 2009 8:53 PM
"and millions of those who did vote for Obama will switch over to the republican candidate."
Rog,
This is beyond hilarious. Yeah, right, Obama voters are going swing for Joe the Plumber and Mrs. Goebbels from AK.
I can't wait to see what broken, fascist, robotic cretins the Repimplicans present to America in '12.
And according to these poles, Amerca like Obama's socialist policies. (That's what you people call them, right? Socialist? You may regret that.)
Posted by: C.Morris | May 18, 2009 9:00 PM
correction;
'these polls'
Posted by: C.Morris | May 18, 2009 9:03 PM
Mark Silva does get one thing correct in the above article: Jack Bauer being a Republican.
Bauer's concerned about National Security. He's a patriot. He doesn't cheat on his taxes. He can read. He can think. And he hates liars.
All of which suggests he isn't a Democrat.
Posted by: Bruce | May 18, 2009 10:30 PM
How does comparing 4 days of numbers to 4 months become more fair?
Posted by: martin | May 18, 2009 10:36 PM
Bruce,
Spoken like a true Jihadist:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/28135828/the_gop_jihad
Posted by: dt☢ | May 18, 2009 10:58 PM
As filled with angst as Jack Bauer is before he tortures people, you can't make a serious comparison with Cheney. I think it would be best to describe Bauer as a vigilante with a liberal conscience. Bauer would say, "I'm doing this because I have to so that you don't have to." Cheney is more along the lines of, "I did it to save you from certain annihilation. If you haven't been annihilated yet, it's because I did my job. That's proof that I was right and you must agree with me." As fiction, Bauer is heroic for doing what we can't imagine. As reality, Cheney challenges our sense of morality and defends it from a soapbox. Fiction one, reality zero! Catch you all next season.
Posted by: Julian Lev | May 19, 2009 1:03 AM
Now that GOPers like Steele, Boehner, Rove, Gingrich and Jack Bauer are all calling for further investigation into whether or not Speaker Pelosi knew about the Bush administration's torture program they shoudn't have a problem with bringing a special prosecuter onboard to get to the bottom of it.
Not only does this implicitly recognize that the Bush administration did in fact engage in torture, it also means that the calls for investigations of torture are now bipartisan (thanks Republicans).
The fact that Republicans are now on record supporting torture investigations may be an unexpected development, but it is an unexpected development that should be welcomed. It's true that the new GOP calls for investigations are partisan (big surprise!) in nature, but that doesn't change the fact they have made them, and at this point they can't credibly say only Democrats should be investigated.
To say no to an independent non-political investigation -- either by a commission or by a special prosecutor -- would be kicking a gift horse in the mouth. There can be no better way to finally put the Bush administration war crimes behind us than by getting the truth on the table, taking whatever corrective actions the law may require, and then moving on.
Posted by: former Republican | May 19, 2009 1:12 AM
Rog:
Why would a third party be a mess up? This country was not founded by two parties...all are invited to participate. The way things are going with the childish banter of the two major parties, maybe a third party with common sense would be the best for all. I'll vote for someone who is level headed and reasonable.
Posted by: lochnessmonster | May 19, 2009 6:54 AM
Conservatives will be back, that is a fact. We are witnessing the implosion of the Democrat party and its socialist agenda daily.
Posted by: bubba Porter | May 19, 2009 7:14 AM
Right bubba. Those tea bag parties brought you guys right back into power. Michael Steele is turning it around. Kick out the moderates and grow the party?? Nice strategy, Rush.
Posted by: Flo | May 19, 2009 8:25 AM
RepubliCON politicians are not truthful or honest people. They are liars and hypocrites and bigots. Immoral and unprincipled. They are not serving the interests of the American people. They have no answers or ideas. Just the same stale old trash talk. Whiny crybabies, they deserve to lose again in 2010. The new buzzword is Socialism. It scares them to death.
Posted by: Doug R. | May 19, 2009 8:27 AM
Here’s an issue or two that would actually be easier to project. What will those Cubs do this year? And how about those Dodgers? Their pitchers really found a way to step up. A lot can, and will happen, between now and November 2010 or 2012. Republicans are never going to win on charismatic appeal. The Republican party was dead after LBJ’s landslide win in ‘64. The democrat party should have been dead after Reagan’s huge landslide over the thoroughly incompetent ignominious Jimmy Carter in 1980. Obama’s modest win and enduring popularity only proves one thing ~ Americans are very easily charmed.
- You can not continue to spend $$$ like this and there not be repercussions ~ a devalued dollar, a crushing government debt service and correspondingly high interest rates, a high level of inflation.
- There was a tragic, revealing, corporate lesson in the way that Obama terminated the CEO of GM and dismantled Chrysler.
- ExxonMobil and Chevron think that pretending to be aligned with Global Warming is going to save them, but Cap and Trade presses on. We will just have to see how “popular” the democrat party people still are when gasoline is $4.50 a gallon with no relief in sight and electric cars still have a limited operating range but a very premium cost of purchase.
- Taxes on 250k+ is not going to be nearly enough. There were never enough earners at that income level to begin with, and too many have already been disposed.
- Going to close Guantanamo, but where do those fine upscale, displaced citizens of the world end up? Even democrats don’t seem to want them.
- Nancy Pelosi and HER on-going culture of corruption. Democrats keep pressing this divisive, accomplish-nothing issue of “torture”. Let’s see how it plays out and which democrats did sign off on it. They were o.k. with it then, but just so morally outraged now.
- Israel is accustomed to the world being against them, now they surely have to know that they will have to become even more clever to assure their survival, a really great development for the Liberal haters of the Jewish state.
- Any number of crisis, real and imagined, that NO ONE can foresee can develop. Will get to see if charisma and pre-emptive apologies have any limits.
Party when the mood strikes u. It doesn't strike often enough, but this movie is just getting started.
Posted by: Django - N Exile somewhere in/around the 30th Parallel | May 19, 2009 12:18 PM
Wishful thinking, Django; good luck with that.
Posted by: Diana K | May 19, 2009 1:45 PM
One thing for sure, I love me some Diana Krall. She is:
- a master of the piano
- has great phrasing
- sings with dispassionate Passion
The dispassionate Passion always speaks to me. "Pretty Girls Don't Cry", a Chris Isaak song is on my music stand in this moment. The song is built upon 3rds and a real neat modal scale run that defys my left-brain need to identify. ' They smile but they never look at u ' ~ that is such a killer lyric, true at least 96% of the time. Not a Diana Krall song, but it is what the
DKs of the world do so stylishly well. I love that sort of thing. It is art, and I'm the palette. Torture.
D.K. / Flo, I always "hope" for the best, and I totally relate to dispassionate Passion, "Torture" I could argue, but strength through weakness, I don't get. This movie is just getting started.
Posted by: Django - N Exile somewhere in/around the 30th Parallel | May 19, 2009 2:42 PM
When Cheney was VP did he or his office contribute to the 24 scripts? Lots of things seemed to have floated out of the Cheney OVP.
Posted by: Vivian | May 19, 2009 3:09 PM
"Bauer's concerned about National Security. He's a patriot. He doesn't cheat on his taxes. He can read. He can think. And he hates liars.
All of which suggests he isn't a Democrat."
Uh, Bruce, you DO know that Jack Bauer is a FICTIONAL character....Right?
Posted by: David | May 19, 2009 3:37 PM
Django, you have to have some Elvis with your Krall....
Posted by: Flo | May 19, 2009 4:37 PM
Mark Silva does get one thing correct in the above article: Jack Bauer being a Republican.
Bauer's concerned about National Security. He's a patriot. He doesn't cheat on his taxes. He can read. He can think. And he hates liars.
All of which suggests he isn't a Democrat.
Posted by: Bruce | May 18, 2009 10:30 PM
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And you DO get that Jack Bauer is a character on television, right? I mean -- the fact that he's on the television every week in a made-up television show, that what he says lines that are written by people and spoken by an actor, that each and every episode is planned out so that he gets to act all testosteron-ey and the ending goes the way the writers want it to go. All of that suggests that what he isn't is -- REAL.
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Or DO you get that? Sometimes I really wonder.
Posted by: Op109 | May 19, 2009 5:28 PM
Well, Flo, the only thing that E.C. guy has that I don't, is Diana Krall. Not quite sure what she sees in him, but then again, that's the way the ladies usually like to roll. Actually, I probably would prefer Anthony Wilson's job anyway. He is an awesome axe-man, as was his predecesor, Russell Malone. Consider the incredible talent of DK, Anthony Wilson, Russell Malone + Pretty Latina magic, annnnnnnd the Theory of Evolution just kind of falls apart for me, although there would be some support here for Global Warming as caused by humans.
Posted by: Django - N Exile somewhere in/around the 30th Parallel | May 19, 2009 7:39 PM
"[Bruce], you DO get that Jack Bauer is a character on television, right? ""David", "Op109"
"Davie", "109", you can't really read what I wrote and be that dense, can you? MARK SILVA used "Jack Bauer" as an example, not me. The Swamper Mark Silva. I merely commented on his choice of fictional characters.....
In fact Kiefer Sutherland, the actor who plays "Jack Bauer" on tv, is the grandson of the leader of the Socialist Party in Canada, and has been arrested numerous times. In short, the actor is very likely a Liberal Democrat.
Posted by: Bruce | May 20, 2009 12:47 PM