Limbaugh vs. Powell: Soul of the party

Goodness, doesn't Powell know the hard right have no interest in reality? They believe the reason no one is listening to them isn't because they are shouting, they believe they just aren't shouting loud enough. Keep up the good work, one more nail in the coffin won't make a difference.

How can any honest Republican not blast the present imposters, calling themselves, Republicans !!? The present cabal of " Republicans " have undermined our nation, in many ways, from the economy to security, to citizens' well-being !! So, General Powell, a hero of our military, has an obligation to speak his mind, concerning the foolery, the present " Republicans " have visited upon our country !! Those disc-jockeys, that are all mouth, and no heart, could learn much from General Powell. First and foremost, loyalty to our country before loyalty to a Party !! Of course, all of these disc-jockeys know, on what side of their bread, is buttered. They know there is a cadre of right-wing fanatics that are paying them, huge salaries, to agitate and discredit, good Americans. Betraying Americans and our values for the good life, now that is reprehensible, to say the least !! This is America and you can character-assassinate and get payed handsomely for it !! Just ask Senator Saxby Chambliss !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Please, Republicans - keep listening to and obeying the Rushbo. As long as you keep following his mandates you will guarantee that the Republican Party will remain nothing more than a deep south, regional party, home to radical religious ideas, racists and bigots.

The one time I could have voted for a republican president was back when there was a push for Powell to run. I am amazed that republicans are so disrespectful to this man. If a man like Rush Limbaugh is more popular than Colin Powell, republicans have a mountain to climb.

I used to respect Powell, but he became such a Bush enabler, (you know the details), that I just can't support him.

CP,
You lost all your credibility in the Bush years carrying water for those cretins.

Limpbaugh is a fraud and a hypocrite. A toxic bloated druggy who has not sacrificed a single thing for the United States. His rants are anti American and unpatriotic. He perceives himself to be some sort of mouthpiece for the Republicscums and his thoughtless sheeple. If Limpbaugh wants to get political, he should run for political office. He would never get elected anywhere.

"Americans do want to pay taxes for services... Americans are looking for more government in their life, not less." Colin Powell

Quotes like this are what places Colin Powell on the fringe... he ought to just declare himself a liberal and get it over with...

Recent polling completely refutes his position ( as well as Obama's)

Most americans think that Government is too powerful-

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics2/60_say_government_has_too_much_power_too_much_money

Let's see - who do I, a life-long and currently jaded Republican, trust? The guy who served three tours in Vietnam and designed a successful military strategy for the Middle East back in 1991? Or do I go with the schlub who dodged the draft, never worked a day in his life, and kept his big yap shut while GWB turned record budget surpluses into record deficits? That there are some who actually think there is a contest shows how far this once proud party - the party of can-do men like Eisenhower and Reagan - has fallen.

Lefty Loons, no Republican or conservative is knocking Powell's service to this country or the great things he has done. He is being criticized for some of his views or comments, which is legit. I have respect for Colin Powell, but he is wrong here. First of all, most Americans do not want higher taxes or bigger government. Second, the GOP ran perhaps the most liberal Republican for president than it had in years. McCain was a bipartican guy. On many issues, he was a moderate to modertaly liberal Republican, yet he lost. The GOP is not more conservative today than it was 20+ years ago under Reagan. The GOP is not in trouble because of radio people like Limbaugh. The GOP got in trouble because it neglected its base and its principles, something the Democrats do not have.

OK, so the white van is the Republican party.

Take it from here John D! (I think I see you, Terry, Rush, Specter, Collins, Snowe and others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLlFd5KVoqQ

I'd tend to agree for the most part with CMorris. Lost a great deal of (theretofore-considerable) respect for Powell when he was being relegated to "mouthpiece" for the Bushco fiasco. I'd like to think, though -- and perhaps I'm being naive -- that maybe he was caught up in the whole "you're with us or you're against us" thing that cowed a great many people out of their instinct to step back and look at facts as facts rather than political imperative. Powell was in a position better than most, though, to apply some brakes. It's a shame he didn't when he had the chance. If not for that UN speech, Powell was one Republican I'd have voted for in a New York SECOND!!

There is only enough room for one man in the Rupublican Party : Rush Limpbugar.

All the rest, get out.

Colin Powell doesn't know how to read a poll. One of the bedrock principles of the GOP is smaller government... and over half of Americans support that notion.
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What does Colin Powell know, anyway. He’s the nominal “Republican” that endorsed Obama, then re-assured us all that he was “qualified to be Commander-in-Chief” the week before the Russians caught Obama completely asleep-at-the-wheel and nabbed the Krgyzstani air-base that we use to fly-in most of our supplies to Afghanistan.
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He apparently feels guilty about promoting the Iraq war (but shouldn’t) and is trying to make amends. Powell’s advice and a quarter will get you a cup of coffee at 7-11 (small).
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There'll be no hiding the damage Obama is doing to the county in a year or two. I love how these critics of the GOP assume everything will just work out great with trillion dollar deficits and a pacifist foreign policy-
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When their pork-n-welfare spending orgy fails to create any real economic gains -but stokes vicious inflation and crashes the dollar instead- the Democrats face a bloodbath in 2010/12. .. no matter how many fake GOP "scandals" the MSM cooks up for him.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/

Funny thing is...... only the democrats are saying Limbaugh is the mouthpiece of the republican party. i haven't heard any prominent republicans make that statement, have you big Don?? little bill??

We can read through your hatred for republicans in every post you submit and like the rest of the sheeple prefer to link through genetics, evil and republicans.

I guess I just haven't heard a republican call Limbaugh their leader. Do many agree with him, sure. Do all, nope and only a dope would make that comment.

How about that body count Don? How many in Afghanistan today?

Springfield, Ask Michael Steele and Rep. Phil Gingrey if Limbaugh is thge voice of the Party. Both were forced to apologize for disagreeing with the Great Leader Rush. No disagreement with Limbaiugh is accepted within your party, no matter if it is an elected representative of the people, or the nominal head of the party. All will toe Limbaugh's line to the letter.

re:KXB

Powell was the CJCS not the field commander during Desert Shield/Desert Storm. The JCS are political animals or they wouldn't be in those positions. If you want to give props to the strategy that set it up then give it to the Pentagon planning dept, Gen. Schwartzkopf and his subordinate commanders that actually carried out the plans. So would I rather follow a vietnam vet... well Kerry is a vietnam vet and I wouldn't follow him so that's not an automatic thing. The vet status also didn't impact Powell's own personal vote during the election, he voted for the candidate that has continually shown disdain for the military.

Rush has ran a very successful business for years something which neither Powell or Pres. Obama have done. So when it comes to Republican opinion and business I think I'd rather follow Rush's opinions.

Limp-paw is awesome!! In his paranoid right-wing bubble, what he says IS true, 74% of Americans know better. The right keeps warning us about the consequences of Obama's policies. America has seen the consequences of Republican rule and overwhelmingly rejected it, despite the best efforts of the Corporate press to distract the voters with one false rumor after the next.

We are where we are because of the failed ideology and policy of Reagan/Bush anti-government, pro-torture Republicans and it isn't pretty.

Keep it up Rush and don't forget your Viagra when you're off paying for it down in the D.R.

op109, you are critical of Powell, but what did he know and when did he know it with re to Iraq? He was SOS, not CIA. In other words, he did not gather intelligence, but rather relied on information from people like "slam dunk" Tenet. So the question is, did he have the right to rely on American intelligence in his speech to the UN? Pointing out that WMD intelligence later turned out to be wrong doesn't impact whether he was acting in good faith at the time. Or did he know there were no WMDs at the time, and gave the UN speech anyway? If you have proof of that, I would be pretty interested in seeing it.

HH,
Everyone with an ounce of sense knew there were not any WMD.
Flash;
TEAM BLIX WAS WORKING.
The rush to war was obvious. It's only TeamBush that claims 'everyone thought there were WMD'.
It's a filthy lie. Hundreds of millions of people knew it was not established that WMD existed.
TeamBush claimed, incredibly, that the WMD were being moved just ahead of the Team Bilx inspectors.
Stupid on the face of it. How do you move an active nuclear and bio weapon program on short notice. It can't be done.

Here's what Herbie can't accept;

The French were right.

Let’s see here, Limbaugh vs. Powell. Who am I going to listen to? A chicken-hawk, overweight, drug addict who spews garbage from his right-wing loon mouth (Limbaugh) or a distinguished war veteran who has served his country with an impeccable record that cannot and should not be questioned (Powell). Wow this is a hard one!! How will I decide?

If more people want more taxes, more spending and bigger government in their lives, as Powell claims, the answer isn’t to reform the Republican Party to accommodate this view. The answer would be for Republicans holding this view to simply join the Democratic Party. If the Republican Party, or any other group of conservatives, agreed with the notion that bigger and more expensive government is the better way to go, there would no longer be enough of an ideological difference between their position and the Democrats’ to justify having a separate party. Indeed, they would no longer be conservatives.
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The Republican Party is already suffering from ideological meltdown because it allowed neo-cons to rule the roost. Taking a retrograde path on issues regarding foreign policy, social issues and civil liberties was bad enough. Republican big spenders in Congress have already weakened the fiscal conservative ideology that once controlled the party and enhanced its image in the eyes of conservative voters. Powell now wants to pull up this last plank and cast it overboard entirely and forever. If his intent isn’t to scuttle the Republican Party, I can’t think of one. If he believes, in good faith, that big government, big spending and more taxes are the way to go, he honestly should become a Democrat. Barry Goldwater will be rolling in his grave.

“The French were right.”

Posted by: The LeninSisters | May 7, 2009 6:45 PM
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What were they right about? Was it the armpit hair and lack of bathing that did it for you? Or perhaps it was their gloomy philosophy, arrogance and snail eating?
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“Hell is other people.” - J.P. Sartre
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“There is no hell. There is only France.” - F. Zappa

This is part of Powell's "rehab" tour so he can get back in the good graces of the media for his statements before the UN.

The question is, if he is that unhappy with the GOP, why doesn't he switch parties?

The only time in the past 30 years the GOP has been successful as a national party hase been when they have run and goverened as conservatives, not as democrat lite

What were they right about? Was it the armpit hair and lack of bathing that did it for you? Or perhaps it was their gloomy philosophy, arrogance and snail eating?
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“Hell is other people.” - J.P. Sartre
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“There is no hell. There is only France.” - F. Zappa

Posted by: John W. | May 7, 2009 9:19 PM

Ahh, there is no one who can make a nonsensical response like a hypernationalist, jingoistic, xenophobic Republican..

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Posted by: Mike | May 8, 2009 8:38 AM
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Way to go, smart guy! When was the last time you saw anyone quote Frank Zappa in a serious post? ‘Tis a Pity you didn’t see it for what it was.
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“. . . a hypernationalist, jingoistic, xenophobic Republican..” It’s always nice to see how misunderstanding brings dour and judgmental Democrats out of the woodwork. Go have a drink before your blood pressure does you in. Ahhh!

CM, I don't know who the "hundreds of millions of people" you are referring to are, how they would know anything about the weapons program of a shadowy dictatorship like Iraq, and why policy makers in Washington would take their word over that of their own intelligence community. Do you honestly dispute that the CIA consensus was that Iraq had WMDs? Do you dispute that both the Clinton and Bush Administrations concluded Iraq had WMDs? The US Congress? British Intelligence? Are you including all of these entities under the title of "TeamBush"? Pretty big team.

I think you can argue Bush et al. exaggerated the threat of Iraq; even if they had chemical weapons, so what? They are not an imminent threat to the US. I think you can argue Bush rushed to war and should have waited longer for UN inspections. I think people get into conjecture whenever they start talking about Bush's motivations that are other than what he stated (e.g., he wants their oil, he wants to avenge his dad, etc.). What I don't think you can do is pretend that it was not the consensus in the US intelligence community that Iraq had WMDs. And if that is true, can you really say it was wrong for Powell to rely on that? Should he have made an independent determination (based on what?) that his own CIA is wrong? You have to look at his decisions based on what he knew at the time, not based on what we found out later (e.g., no WMDs).

Pwell voted his skin color...why not he was promoted his entire life based on skin color...Affirmative Action = creating success based upon nothing. Hence we have a President with no record of achievement except community activist. People are writing their own script on Obama because there was none.

C Morris try googling 550 metric tons of yellow cake uranium that was moved out of Iraq last year, in the summer after Iraq was stabilized, to Canada...There were weapons but ignorant fools and the press decided to ignore any story that did not fit their preconceived notions. The AP carried the story but minimally. You know-it-alls that think you can run the government and a war from your living rooms will end with millions of dead Americans.Liberals will then be squealing the loudest because that is all they DO.

Goldwater Republican.....Strong on defense, small government, and low taxes.......Moderate on the social issues... I WANT MY GOP BACK AWAY FROM THE LIKES OF RUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!