Notre Dame: Abortion battle joined

This is such a fake controversy. It's only perpetuated by right wing extremists and Fox News (one in the same...).

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Tell you what: you folks pray to Mr. God that Obama does not speak and that all abortions will end.

I'll pray to my navel that he does speak and that, so long as there are human beings, there will always be abortions (not that I favor abortions; just that I acknowledge reality).

Any bet whose prayer succeeds? If mine does, should everyone pray to my navel?

Any bet whose prayer succeeds? If mine does, should everyone pray to my navel?

Posted by: a blinkin | May 15, 2009 12:17 PM

With the rabid, that could be a "navel battle".

FOX news, right wing extremists, the Chicago Tribune - what's the difference Matt?

I mean if Fox news is the only media outlet covering this non-story, why is it being printed in every major newspaper in the country?

I believe I saw it covered in the British papers too. Yeah, now they're a bunch of right wing extremists I guess.

But hey, what's the body count in Afghanistan today Matt? You know, Barry's war against terror.

"Bishop John D'Arcy, the church's bishop for the region who announced some time ago that he would boycott the commencement ceremony"

Yeah, and they also think it's ok for Catholic priests to sexually abuse little boys.

What a bunch of fracking hypocrites!

I am not catholic so maybe I don't have the facts right, however it seems to me that there is a major hypocrisy going on here. It is my understanding that the Catholic Church in addition to being against abortion, it is also against the death penalty. If that is true then where were these angry Catholic Church goers when Regan and Busch were asked to speak at Notre Dame? If it is wrong according to the teachings of the Catholic Church to take a life, any life, where were the defenders of the faith then? It would appear that once again the "public's outrage" is once again a manufactured event. It would also appear that to the "many thousands" of angered Catholic church goers that the fictitious murder of a fetus is more important than the actual murder of a convicted felon. Where is all that catholic piety? Where is all that Catholic concern for the down trodden? Where is all that Catholic moral outrage for the many men who have been murdered through the use of the death penalty laws who may not have committed the crime. Are these sanctimonious Catholics assuming the posture of Pontius Pilot and washing their hands of the responsibility of murdering the innocent when we are talking about a predominantly minority population of convicted felons? Or is is it really about the difficulty some older and more conservative White Americans are having with the idea of a NonWhite American being president.

These people need to get a life!

In America, we try to return even a finger of a fallen soldier to the family so they can have closure – why can’t we do the same for women? How right is it, that despite a parent’s wishes, their aborted child (via hESC) lives in perpetuity (also carrying the father’s DNA – where are his privacy rights?).

Once again, an industry run by billionaires and politicians is made incredibly wealthy off the backs of women – disproportionably black women.

And people say the slaves were finally free when Obama was elected. He is virtually enslaving these fetus/children – without compensation to the prior “owner.” (Unless you call a free abortion compensation.)

I know Notre Dame, GE, and many of the members of the ND board are deeply invested in the hESC industry, but at least you should put a hint of legitimacy on it by allowing women the option to bury their children. I realize this will diminish the cheap supply of oocytes, but it is the right thing to do, and then this paternalistic society will have afforded a bit more freedom to women.

How hard do you think it is to sleep at night knowing your aborted baby girl has been sold, then molested (and now quietly sanctioned by Priests to do so) by having her eggs/oocytes removed, other men’s sperm injected into it to create thousands of new, living organisms to be experimented on, then killed again for profit? Shouldn’t she at least have the choice to bury, or in a free society, sell it to the highest bidder? (E[mbryo]-Bay maybe?)

Maybe you can ask the President if Mrs. O can make this her pet project as FLOTUS?

Why is it that whenever someone endorses abortion - "I'm pro-choice" or "I support a woman's right to choose" etc., it's always followed by a qualifier - "I wouldn't do it myself, but..." or "they should be safe and rare?"

Why wouldn't you do it yourself? Why should they be rare? If something is wrong, it's just wrong. And it's ok to say so.

I don't even watch Fox News Matt and I oppose abortion.....thanks for the stereotyping though. Does anyone even know what Roe V. Wade says? Take a look. We know more now about "when life begins" than we knew then. As for Obama, considering he is a huge fan of exporting abortion to other countries by incenting abortioners with US funding, I don't know why he just doesn't have the nerve to say so. He keeps talking about wanting to reduce abortions.....well, welcome to Washington Barack, offering government money generally puts people into the biz of whatever you are funding! Duh. Enough with this naive crap from Obama.

Same thing with stem cell research. The overwhelming evidence that adult stem cell research has revealed so much more than embryonic stem cell research is another example of how Obama just wants to turn the other way. Of course, Bill Clinton is out there saying "as long as the embryo hasn't been fertilized, it's ethical"....HELLO? an embryo IS fertilized. Good grief!

And I won't even get into the conscience protection that Obama wants to get ride of.....gee, thanks for trashing that part of the constitution.

Once again, apparently the current regime thinks we need to be free FROM religion not free to practice our religion....of course, given that everyone is all about science, I guess the whole abortion/embryonic stem cell debate isn't even a religious issue. It's cleary a scientific fact that we are terminating lives.

The Catholic church and their moral principles. What a joke.
The leadership of the Catholic church is infested with right-wing hypocrites and bigots who misrepresent the Good Book everyday of the year.
If this D'Arcy guy wants to talk about the destruction of innocent human life, he should look no further than the death and destruction caused by the Bush administration in Iraq.

But hey, what's the body count in Afghanistan today Matt? You know, Barry's war against terror.

Posted by: springfield | May 15, 2009 12:55 PM

Appeaser! Cut and Runner! terrorist loving anti-american surrender monkey! Why do you hate america? Why do you hate the troops?

Enough with the Catholic bashing. It's very offensive and hurtful. All of you who keep on blasting the Church for it's contradictive stance need only understand that supposed Catholics like Biden and Pelosi are who you seem to be getting your info from! If you look at Mass-going Catholics and the Vatican, you would understand that we are consistent on our stance on abortion, stem cell research, captial punishment, and a host of other life issues.....stop looking to our politicians to teach you about any faith!

Why is it that whenever someone endorses abortion - "I'm pro-choice" or "I support a woman's right to choose" etc., it's always followed by a qualifier - "I wouldn't do it myself, but..." or "they should be safe and rare?"

Why wouldn't you do it yourself? Why should they be rare? If something is wrong, it's just wrong. And it's ok to say so.

Posted by: Kathy | May 15, 2009 1:57 PM

Because these are not not simple issues. In the abstract, without any competing concerns, abortion means killing a life (I think life begins at conception, but I also know that our society endorses killing lives -- death penalty; war; self defense (even by mistake); etc.)

There are no abstractions in the real word. There may be competing "wrongs" at issue -- it's wrong to kill a fetus; it's also wrong to carry a fetus to term if that will cause the mother great harm; it's arguably wrong to give birth a a child whose life will be fraught with painful birth defects). etc.

It is perfectly honest to say you oppose abortion but think it should be legal.

I believe radical Islam caused the death and destruction.
What's so difficult in representing the truth? Your right, radical muslims have been killing people around the world before 9/11, and after. Minor detail I guess.

If you look at Mass-going Catholics and the Vatican, you would understand that we are consistent on our stance on abortion, stem cell research, captial punishment, and a host of other life issues.....stop looking to our politicians to teach you about any faith!

Posted by: GJO | May 15, 2009 3:07 PM

The problem is GJO, abortion is the only issue the Church makes a fuss about. They have NO problem with politicians who disagree with Church teacjhing on capital punishment, or contraception or a host of other life issues. Only Abortion. If they would have been equally strong in telling Pro-death penalty politicians that they were unworthy of an honor, it would be different. But they weren't, and they won't be in the future.

I believe radical Islam caused the death and destruction.
What's so difficult in representing the truth? Your right, radical muslims have been killing people around the world before 9/11, and after. Minor detail I guess.

Posted by: PG | May 15, 2009 3:07 PM

At least Christians never killed in the name of their religion, right? .

Watching the Republican Party die off by virtual suicide is fun for me. They are accomplishing this while still getting the msm to bend over and allow their spurious attitudes, views that garner such miniscule support, to be half of most debates. Pretty unjustifiably so. They lied about torture for 7 years and now think it's peachy. They held up to 95% innocents at Gitmo.

They tortured POWs in Iraq to prove false "facts" that they believed or claimed they believed.

The most immoral administartion possibly ever (BushCo) and these right-wing lunatic fringers can only think of just one pet issue.

I can't wait for the Repblican Party to die, we need a real opposition party, one that makes sense and believes in rational alternatives. Not these useless regurgitating anachronistic right-wing Republicans stuck somewhere back in the middle ages. Well, the middle ages with assault weapons added in for fun sake. I am sure the Vatican loves no gun control, right? And destabilizing war in Iraq.

Morals? Too bad Republicans really don't have any, in fact.

Wow, reading these posts, there are a lot of angry activists.

Next, I guess you'll be trying to tell me Islam is peace loving. LOL

The Catholic Church is an easy target, but please lets widen the conversation to all, and talk how bad Islam is, etc...

We've put up with a week of Fox News complaining because Miss California's right to free speech was threatened. (It wasn't, of course, but that hardly matters.) Now we have those same folks complaining because President Obama is going to speak at Notre Dame. Holy Moley! Someone should tell President Obama that the administrators at ND know their graduating seniors aren't intellectually gifted enough to withstand exposure to other points of view.

Gee, what's it take to earn conservatives' respect? Brains like Miss California? Perhaps President Obama should look into a spankin' new pair of silicone "enhancements."

I'm praying that Notre Dame loses every game next season.

PG, most Muslims are peace loving. Many even are good American citizens, and smarter than you.

These Catholic religious extremists should be fighting against child molesting priests, not fighting to deny women the basic human right to choose on abortion.

Thanks for making my point. You replied, how "I" wanted.

There are many good people, from all races and faiths. It's unfortunate that "some" are freaking bad, which taints the whole deal.

Then activists like to use the bad and trash the race or faith.

To Disgusted Catholic and anyone else that keeps bringing up the death penalty and captial punishment....yeah, that's bad but do you even realize the scope of lives destroyed by abortion? It's tens of millions! Fine, skip the legality or illegality of it! Let's start making the conversation about ending abortion and drastically reducing it! The issue with our president is that he is PROMOTING it by increased funding for destruction of life. Again, he says he wants to reduce abortion but is now sending funds worldwide (rescinded Mexcio City policy) to fund abortion....again, government funding encourages behavior! Obama wants it both ways!